I am looking to buy a Note 2 from eBay and the seller is not sure which android version it is on. I'm expecting worst case scenario which is that the phone is 4.3. If I were to get it and it has the 4.3 stock ROM, is there any chance I could roll back to it?
Yes,
You can downgrade the OS but not the bootloader.
You can flash 4.1.x custom ROM's as long as bootloader is not included, which is how almost all ROM's are packed.
You can still flash 4.1.2 stock using Mobile odin as mobile Odin does not flash the bootloader.
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Sweet as long as I can put custom ROMs on it then, I'm happy. I'm sure Knox would be tripped regardless if I tried to go back to 4.1 stock
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I just flashed the new baseband but I know I be returning this phone back to tmobile a three to four months from now and I was hoping their was a way to flash the old baseband the MDL one and return back to the original 4.2.2 tw that my phone came with? if anybody can provide me witha link forum anything that can help me go back to the old baseband it be greatly appreciated! right now Im using 4.4 kitkat virgin rom
You can get the original modem here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381567
Then flash it
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Android_Monsters said:
You can get the original modem here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381567
Then flash it
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thanks a lot man helps so much! one more thing should I flash using odin when I install the older 4.2.2 rom or it doesnt matter what rom I choose to install the baseband? sorry for the noob questions :good:
Tak23 said:
thanks a lot man helps so much! one more thing should I flash using odin when I install the older 4.2.2 rom or it doesnt matter what rom I choose to install the baseband? sorry for the noob questions :good:
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If you are returning, you must use Odin to flash the stock rom. No worry we are all noobs, some just know more than others.
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So by flashing a custom 4.3 knox free....I can still odin back to stock 4.2, triangle away, unroot and be good for warranty issues?
In other words theres nothing to worry about with flashing a 4.3 rom so long as I just go back to 4.2 and use the correct procedures to do so......with all the scattered info I was kinda concerned about trying 4.3
If you are planning to return it, why not flash the OTA version of 4.3 via Kies just before you do and be done with it?
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Im not sure im ready too...
The more I read here about the ota the more confusion I see...
I am confused about warranty, knox and all that...I have been around a long time and have owned all the gallaxy s phones and flashed em all but this new ota has me concerned....atleast with 4.2 I "know" ill not have any issues with warranty returns.
I dont have plans to return it....im thinking into the future a bit....
....I guess what im asking is....if I go to 4.3 can I easily odin back to stock 4.2
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So by flashing a custom 4.3 knox free....I can still odin back to stock 4.2, triangle away, unroot and be good for warranty issues?
In other words theres nothing to worry about with flashing a 4.3 rom so long as I just go back to 4.2 and use the correct procedures to do so......with all the scattered info I was kinda concerned about trying 4.3
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Yes. Flashing a custom 4.3 rom through recovery (not odin) without the knox bootloader is like flashing any other rom. You can go back to 4.2 for warranty purposes just like any other time.
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Thank you!
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Im not sure im ready too...
The more I read here about the ota the more confusion I see...
I am confused about warranty, knox and all that...I have been around a long time and have owned all the gallaxy s phones and flashed em all but this new ota has me concerned....atleast with 4.2 I "know" ill not have any issues with warranty returns.
I dont have plans to return it....im thinking into the future a bit....
....I guess what im asking is....if I go to 4.3 can I easily odin back to stock 4.2
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Ah. OK. I must have misunderstood the meaning of the thread's title. I thought it meant you wanted to return to MDL before returning the phone.
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I'm currently on a 4.3 touchwiz rom and I was wondering if it's possible to jump to 4.4.2 and revert back to touchwiz 4.3?
I read about the Knox security thing and I understand I can't go back to 4.1 or any prior touchwiz builds.
I just want to make sure if I go to KitKat and I find it unstable to make it my DD. I atleast have the option to go back to touchwiz.
I normally used Odin to go back to touchwiz(4.1.2) when I used AOSP(4.2.2) does that still work?
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I'm currently on a 4.3 touchwiz rom and I was wondering if it's possible to jump to 4.4.2 and revert back to touchwiz 4.3?
I read about the Knox security thing and I understand I can't go back to 4.1 or any prior touchwiz builds.
I just want to make sure if I go to KitKat and I find it unstable to make it my DD. I atleast have the option to go back to touchwiz.
I normally used Odin to go back to touchwiz(4.1.2) when I used AOSP(4.2.2) does that still work?
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It's possible. I recently had to do a warranty on my phone and the refurb I got had the latest 4.3. I just updated the recovery to CWM and rooted it using Chainfire's method then updated to the latest Superuser; after doing that and reloading SU it asked me if I wanted to disable Samsung Knox. After hitting yes and disabling it, I flashed it to CM 11. I decided I didn't like it and restored an to an earlier backup of the rooted stock 4.1.2 and have had no problems. As long as you make sure to disable Samsung Knox first and make a backup just in case you should be fine.
I'm on 4.1.2 but with the mk7 basband.. is there a flashable file so I can put it back to stock so I can do the official 4.3 update? I think I rather have that even tho I can't go back to any 4.1.x.. having too many issues with 4.3 roms without the updated bootloader, kernels are even.messing up camera etc. So I'm figuring do the update so I don't need a custom kernel.. or is there a flashable STOCK kernel I can flash so I can use Triangle Away and then just do the OTA update.. just frustrated as hell trying to troubleshoot everything.. I respect and thank all the devs I'm sure its either user error or my misunderstanding and knowledge. Never had this type of struggling with any devices from my HTC HD2, SGS2, SGS3, .. I'm just gonna chunk it up to being remedial or something and acknowledge defeat on this Device
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I'm on 4.1.2 but with the mk7 basband.. is there a flashable file so I can put it back to stock so I can do the official 4.3 update? I think I rather have that even tho I can't go back to any 4.1.x.. having too many issues with 4.3 roms without the updated bootloader, kernels are even.messing up camera etc. So I'm figuring do the update so I don't need a custom kernel.. or is there a flashable STOCK kernel I can flash so I can use Triangle Away and then just do the OTA update.. just frustrated as hell trying to troubleshoot everything.. I respect and thank all the devs I'm sure its either user error or my misunderstanding and knowledge. Never had this type of struggling with any devices from my HTC HD2, SGS2, SGS3, .. I'm just gonna chunk it up to being remedial or something and acknowledge defeat on this Device
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If you are interested, I have debloated the Stock 4.3 ROM, rooted it and packed it with TMBBMD1 bootloader.
This ROM has the stock kernel, I have been running it for a while so far no issues. I am planning on uploading it on XDA.
If not, the easiest option would be to
1) Flash MrRobinsons, stock rooted TMBBMD1 ROM
2) Run triangle away to reset counter.
3) Uninstall SuperSU, this can be done from the application itself.
4) Perform a factory reset
Now your phone will be on stock 4.1.2 and if you check for updates you will get the 4.3 OTA.
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If you are interested, I have debloated the Stock 4.3 ROM, rooted it and packed it with TMBBMD1 bootloader.
This ROM has the stock kernel, I have been running it for a while so far no issues. I am planning on uploading it on XDA.
If not, the easiest option would be to
1) Flash MrRobinsons, stock rooted TMBBMD1 ROM
2) Run triangle away to reset counter.
3) Uninstall SuperSU, this can be done from the application itself.
4) Perform a factory reset
Now your phone will be on stock 4.1.2 and if you check for updates you will get the 4.3 OTA.
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Thank you very much for the reply. Its very much appreciated
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Hello, I'm new to this forum although I've been following most of the threads. I have a Galaxy S3 by AT&T, unlocked and running stock 4.1.1 before I decided to flash to CM. Didn't like a few things about CM so I tried to Odin back to stock 4.1.1. Got to pass quite alright but the phone wont boot back up and now seems bricked. I've read about problems others have had with bricking trying to downgrade from stock 4.3 to other earlier versions on this particular phone model. I, however, thought this was a problem with stock rom only and CM had taken care of the dreaded knox and secure bootloader?
How do I fix this brick and get the phone back up and running? I'd greatly appreciate the steps laid out in plain English a newbie would be able to comprehend easily enough. Thanks
Did you go into recovery and do a factory reset?
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Did you go into recovery and do a factory reset?
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Thanks very much! Just did that and it worked.
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Did you go into recovery and do a factory reset?
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Just wondering then if it's possible to switch to CM or any knox-free custom rom from stock 4.3 on the AT&T Galaxy S3? If so, it would seem to be a convenient workaround to the problems users have expressed trying to downgrade from 4.3 to 4.1.1 in order to free unlock their phones. I mean .. first install a custom rom and then odin back to stock 4.1.1 to unlock and, thereafter, upgrade either back to stock or a preferred custom rom? Would this be possible?
You can't downgrade from the stock 4.3 bootloader to an older bootloader. Trying to flash an older bootloader will brick the phone.
You need to be on stock 4.1.1 in order to use the free unlock method. A custom 4.1.1-based ROM will not have the required menu options.
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You can't downgrade from the stock 4.3 bootloader to an older bootloader. Trying to flash an older bootloader will brick the phone.
You need to be on stock 4.1.1 in order to use the free unlock method. A custom 4.1.1-based ROM will not have the required menu options.
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Thanks. Maybe I didn't phrase my question properly ... I mean is it possible to go to from stock 4.3 to a custom ROM based on 4.3 (or newer) e.g. CM11? I understand you can't downgrade from stock 4.3 to an older bootloader which is why I'm asking if a workaround involving stock 4.3 to custom 4.3 based and then back to stock 4.1.1 is possible? I don't know if anyone has been able to successfully flash custom 4.3 based to the AT&T version of the GS3 running stock 4.3.
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Thanks. Maybe I didn't phrase my question properly ... I mean is it possible to go to from stock 4.3 to a custom ROM based on 4.3 (or newer) e.g. CM11? I understand you can't downgrade from stock 4.3 to an older bootloader which is why I'm asking if a workaround involving stock 4.3 to custom 4.3 based and then back to stock 4.1.1 is possible? I don't know if anyone has been able to successfully flash custom 4.3 based to the AT&T version of the GS3 running stock 4.3.
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You should be able to flash anything as long as its listed as a bootloader. I believe only kit kat ROMs have vleumk5 as a boot installer
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I'm planning on upgrading to another phone so I'm trying to get this counter on my phone reset to 0, then unrooting.
Right now I am on the latest version of Insanity ROM Android 4.3 MK2 Baseband .
I tried resetting the counter using TriangleAway earlier, but I noticed I needed to be on a stock Samsung kernel.
So I found one (and this same thing happened when I tried to flash a stock rooted ROM with MDL) on XDA directly for the T-Mobile S4, only to find out that after flashing, it wouldn't get past the black screen after the SGS4 logo comes on.
Luckily, I restored back
I know how to unroot and everything I just want to ask before I do this,. Can I go ahead on using Triangle Away on my current rom? And then do the unrooting process?
If you took the OTA 4.3 you are Sol. If you still have the MDL bootloader you can Odin the MDL stock image then root and triangle away and then unroot. You will be good to go then.
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If you took the OTA 4.3 you are Sol. If you still have the MDL bootloader you can Odin the MDL stock image then root and triangle away and then unroot. You will be good to go then.
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No, I never had it updated when I bought it from Tmo as Android 4.2.2 . So you're saying with even with the current custom 4.3 Android & custom kernel that I have right now I can Odin the MDL? (Unroot, Root, TriangleAway, unroot?)
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No, I never had it updated when I bought it from Tmo as Android 4.2.2 . So you're saying with even with the current custom 4.3 Android & custom kernel that I have right now I can Odin the MDL? (Unroot, Root, TriangleAway, unroot?)
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Yes. If you never took the OTA and only flashed the mk2 modem you can absolutely Odin the stock MDL ROM and root, triangle away then unroot (in that order) You'll be good to go then. Just make sure you're binary found is at 0 by booting into download mode when you're done.
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Yes. If you never took the OTA and only flashed the mk2 modem you can absolutely Odin the stock MDL ROM and root, triangle away then unroot (in that order) You'll be good to go then. Just make sure you're binary count is at 0 by booting into download mode when you're done.
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I'm having the same problem when I got my s4 I didn't know anything about Knox or all the other headaches that come with rooting this phone!! But me being me as soon as I opened the phone I updated it to 4.3 then rooted it not knowing I wouldnt be able to return to stock! Even tho I did backup my stock rooted phone my phone will not let me restore to it so I've been stuck on beanstalk 4.4 but really want to go back to stock rooted cause of the camera!! Haha.... I'm new to the s4 so I'm still learning more about it I had an s2 before this and that was all cake walk flashing and what not. I just want to know if Odin is an option for me to return to stock or not?? I think I backed it up through lies before ota 4.3
I'm having the same problem when I got my s4 I didn't know anything about Knox or all the other headaches that come with rooting this phone!! But me being me as soon as I opened the phone I updated it to 4.3 then rooted it not knowing I wouldnt be able to return to stock! Even tho I did backup my stock rooted phone my phone will not let me restore to it so I've been stuck on beanstalk 4.4 but really want to go back to stock rooted cause of the camera!! Haha.... I'm new to the s4 so I'm still learning more about it I had an s2 before this and that was all cake walk flashing and what not. I just want to know if Odin is an option for me to return to stock or not?? I think I backed it up through lies before ota 4.3
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From what I've read in other threads you cannot downgrade bootloaders so if you took th OTA you can't go back to 4.2. From what I understand it will brick your phone. If you are already 4.3 and rooted you have already voided your warranty. You may as well Odin the stock 4.3 and root again so you can flash other Roms since you are stuck on 4.4.
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