What will be different when we get TW 4.4? - T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII

I was wondering after reading that the GS3 will be getting KitKat soon, what will this build have that we haven't seen in 4.3? will it be anything that will "wow" us? or since its only 4.3 to 4.4 it'll be maybe a new flashlight or a new font? (being sarcastic). I say this because coming from 4.1.2 to 4.3 I expected a big difference but it was pretty boring. So going to KitKat don't know what will be new or modded.
I wish, of course, that we get a different UI. I really don't want to buy a new phone. I'm happy with my GS3

The 4.3 update brought Carrier IQ, Knox and the Dreaded Bootloader with E-Fuse Bomb. So I shudder what Kitkat will do.

Just stay with the 4.1.2 boot loader, update the modem and flash an aosp kitkat rom. No Knox or other BS. If you don't like it you can go back to your TW 4.3

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[Q] 4.3

I am on 4.1.2 using Hyperdrive 16 on I747. I just am wondering is 4.3 basically as wide open as 4.1.2 and 4.1.1 now or is it best to just hold off a bit before taking it. Anyone care to chime in on that?
It's up to you, but I chose to hold off because my phone works just fine the way it is. Some report their phones are snappier, but at the same time, just read how many issues there are on these forums from the 4.3 update before you decide.
If anything, I would try the leaked 4.3 Rom from Loserskater in the development section first if I were you, and stay away form the official OTA update, but we android users just insist that our phones be on whatever the latest update is. So like I said, it's up to you.

manual 4.4.2 update for m919 vs m919n

Quick question?....now that the 4.4.2 ota official update has came thru. Does anyone know of anyone working on a stock rom mirroring the 4.4.2 ota.. In a flashable rom zip form... Not g.e or miui just the same ota 4.4.2 in a rom form ... for those that dont want to update to 4.4.2?
Alot of people use the Metro PCS s4 m919n which is the same as m919 literally besides the metro bloat and we use tmobile m919 roms..all day on Metro s4 thats why i asked ...
becasue it may be a easy way to get 4.4.2 on metros m919N which as far as i know has yet to se a 4.4.2 update.
If this is possible im thinking about flashing Odin uvuemk2 on my METRO S4 making it a official stock m919 4.3 then trying the 388mb update.zip that someone has managed to mirror from the ota. That should put my m919n on tmobiles 4.2.2
Dont believe any bootlaoder or baseband issue will arrise these phones are super identical And run eachothers roms from 4.1.2 all the way too what we currently have.
Any insight will be great
lojak29 said:
Quick question?....now that the 4.4.2 ota official update has came thru. Does anyone know of anyone working on a stock rom mirroring the 4.4.2 ota.. In a flashable rom zip form... Not g.e or miui just the same ota 4.4.2 in a rom form ... for those that dont want to update to 4.4.2?
Alot of people use the Metro PCS s4 m919n which is the same as m919 literally besides the metro bloat and we use tmobile m919 roms..all day on Metro s4 thats why i asked ...
becasue it may be a easy way to get 4.4.2 on metros m919N which as far as i know has yet to se a 4.4.2 update.
If this is possible im thinking about flashing Odin uvuemk2 on my METRO S4 making it a official stock m919 4.3 then trying the 388mb update.zip that someone has managed to mirror from the ota. That should put my m919n on tmobiles 4.2.2
Dont believe any bootlaoder or baseband issue will arrise these phones are super identical And run eachothers roms from 4.1.2 all the way too what we currently have.
Any insight will be great
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No bootloader or baseband issues will a rise, I've successfully ODINed quite a bit of tmo specific stuff onto my M919N and it works perfectly fine. It's now a M919 of course.
I'm a bit confused about your question though, so you do want 4.4 stock tmo on your S4 or not? Or are you asking of the possibility of getting a 4.4 stock M919N ROM that's still metro? Because if you just simply want 4.4 stock tmo, all you have to do is odin the stock firmware like you said and make sure to triangle away if your device is custom then you'll be able to OTA and get 4.4
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[Q] Should I update to KitKat 4.4.2? (MI7 Note 3)

In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
People have slightly mixed feelings on the update, but from what I'm seeing their mostly regretting taking the OTA or Odin flash and missing 4.3 JB. Though the new bootloader is not locked it would be better for you to just remain on 4.3 until devs can provide more support and information on the 4.4.2 official update. Besides as long as your on 4.3 you can still flash 4.4.2 roms and 4.3 roms you just need to follow instructions on the devs op. I myself opted to wait it out simply because my phone is flawless the way it is on 4.3 and there was not enough reason why 4.4.2 was a must have update, even if it was I still would have waited for the devs to do their thing first.
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Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
If you cherish tethering, do not update.
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The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
Purest said:
Yeah I want to upgrade because I heard they fixed the AVRCP and I use it a lot, I was so pissed that samsung botched that when the note 3 came out. Now I hear that all the music apps can send meta data now.
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While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
I finally took the plunge and rooted 4.3 and did the kitkat update while maintaining root so I can use the sd card write fix. My thoughts, is there is no advantage to kitkat but more disadvantages. I still get the occasional stutter and lag which rarely happened on JB so I broke even on that.
But I'm using Nova launcher and now home button does not take me to my default home screen. So I have to swipe to home screen since I have a folder in there for certain apps and games. Also the animation now just starts from the center when opening app from home screen.
The other issue is I use a samsung Gear and have it set to automatically unlock my phone when it's near it. But now I lost the ripple effect. I just get the lock icon with the 4 directional arrow around it.
There's also a slight battery drain. When I updated I didn't lose anything nor have I added any apps. Still trying to determine the cause on this one.
The worse part is I can't use foxfi anymore as it hasn't been updated to work with tmobile note3. Luckily I'm rooted so hopefully I can't find another way like Trev's wifi tethering.
If I could go back I would. I was pretty happy with JB unrooted. But I wanted to see if my signal would get better. I get an extra bar but when I go to see the signal status, it's still -115db when I'm at work.
The only thing I'm enjoying is finally I have root again which I could've done on JB. Being able to use titanium backup and LMT Pie again is awesome. I should've rooted sooner.
skullstrider said:
In the hopes that this question may help others and not seeing this question being remotely asked from what i searched, Is it recommended to update to 4.4.2 KitKat or should I wait it out?
additional questions:
- is it better to flash it if i root my note 3? (MI7)
- should i root the note 3 at it's current version (4.3) and just stick to the roms currently available for it?
- most importantly, if i were to do the ota for 4.4.2 and root (with knox tripped) will i still be able to flash roms based on 4.4.2 (like cyanogenmod) without much problem?
things to know:
- I'm aware that installing the 4.4.2 update means i won't be able to revert back to 4.3.
- Mostly aware of the fact that a recovery is present for 4.4.2
- Not entirely sure if t-mobile locks their bootloaders on the new update. Some people on the forums hint that it's not locked but never really found a straight answer.
- Done a lot of forum digging but willing to search more if need be.
sincere apologies if my question sounds absurd and preposterous, however any answer is appreciated.
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Personally, for me, I feel that the KitKat update was beneficial in regards to battery life, and overall stability with ne6. The developers are obviously concentrating their efforts on the latest of updates. I recommend tweaked ROM as the features are endless, and the developer is a higher skilled one, unlike many that around. The boot loader are indeed not locked, and if you update to ne6 the latest KitKat, if you wanted you could back flash to nb4 kit kat, firmware and all, or just flash a nb4 based ROM in normal recovery, both work. Asop ROMs you will have no issue running either, as they are all unified, and are also based on KitKat.. Tethering, if you want the tethering i suggest a ROM, such as tweaked, and you will have that as well. Their are a lot of benefits man to updating, some may disagree, but their updates for a reason, stability, battery, modem, partitions, just an overall better experience. If you want a solid KitKat experience the way touch wiz should have been, with some awesome themes check out Wally's themes in the theme section and go ahead and hit me up for a tweaked alpha, or join the irc channel within dwitherells thread itself. Super helpful people. Willing to lend a hand. Good luck man.
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BenGentle said:
The short answer is no, and the long answer is hell no.
TWEAKED ROM has an update that stops the over-the-air (OTA) update. It's a separate zip with the mini-update.
While not exactly the same, "The More You Know...": http://dailycaller.com/2014/03/13/n...tadata-can-reveal-everything-about-your-life/
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I'm not quite sure what your talking about, but once you are rooted, and your device status is modified you automatically won't get the otas. Not just tweaked, but any ROM, including stock rooted.
It seems beneficial to you since you're using custom rom. I'm on kitkat rooted but knox has not been tripped and still "official" so I'm not gonna put custom rom and break warranty. I can still unroot.
My understanding is even if you have custom recovery you can't go back to 4.3 if your bootloader is upgraded to 4.4.
So for now my recommendation for anyone thinking of upgrading is stick to 4.3. Specially if you are running stock or just rooted.
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Still running 4.3 with Embryo ROM and runs flawless!
Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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Don't update, run an aosp 4.4.3 ROM on your 4.3 boot loader, nuff said
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how can you do this? Im currently stock rooted 4.3 MI7 with knox 0x0. I thought you needed to update the bootloader to flash any 4.4 rom? If not, can I flash a rom using Mobile Odin Pro or safestrap or something without installing a custom recovery or kernel? Or do I pretty much have to trip knox to flash a 4.4 custom rom and keep the 4.3 bootloader?

Back on Stock 4.3 OTA update to 4.4.2 available.. Should I?

Since i'm already past 4.2.2 and i'm sure Knox will be installed with 4.4.2 as well should I upgrade?
I just got back on 4.3 stock to try and fix a cellular call sound issue (which is still happening though )
Is 4.4.2 so much better than 4.3?
I almost updated but then I thought back to when i did that from 4.2.2 to 4.3 thinking "hey, why not"
Advantages? Drawbacks? I appreciate you guys feedback!

Needing some help please with galaxy S4

Can Someone please tell me if there is a way to revert back to the 4.2.2 OS on the samsung galaxy S4 I'm with T-Mobile and the current OS is 4.4.4. I called Samsung yesterday and they said there wasn't any way of doing it. Reason I am wanting to do so is cause I have a new radio in my truck and it had AppRadio 3 on it and it requires the 4.2.2 OS. If anyone could help me that would be great thank you.
Get a new truck. ?
Pp.
sent from my microwave running lollipop 5.0.
Are you sure the requirement is not a least 4.2.2? It just doesn't sound right
why would i get a new truck? that makes no sense lol.. and ya I've called pioneer and asked them they said i need to have my phone at 4.2.2 OS because they have not yet updated there products yet. They are working on it but don't know how long its going to be.
You can't got from stock 4.4.4 to stock 4.2.2.
Once you move your bootloader beyond 4.2.2, you can't go back.
What you could do is flash a 4.2.2 based custom ROM onto your phone, so that your effective OS would be at that level. You would still have the 4.4.4 boot loader and modem, but you could go back to a Jellybean ROM.
Marc
Well only way is to flash a 4.2.2 rom
Get a Kenwood DDX719, I have this for 2yrs and worked with JB and now with KK.
Bluetooth sinc is flawless every time.
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