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Out of space, even on Gingerbread?

Ok, so my wife has been battling the 'out of space' issue on her droid inc for some time.
Finally, GB comes out for her inc... I think "hey, this was a huge problem, and never really solved, im SURE GB fixed this up"
Flashed the other day, and today she says it showed up again.
What the heck? Come on HTC!!
ALL of her apps are on the SD card, she has it rooted, and uses the stock email app, as well as handcent for txting.
How do i fix this?!?!

Hm, how many apps does she have installed?
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Well before This happened she had about 30-35? now its 20 or so other than the stockers

How large is the sd card?
It may b custom rom time
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Is it me, or have there been a lot of these kinds of problems cropping up? I'm kinda curious what the reason and solution is since I'm probably gonna put my dInc back on Sense sometime.

its the stock 2gb card, but both the card, and her 'sd card' report over 500mb free...

IIWY I'd check directories for usage files and phone dumps that can fill up phone space (700mb) fast — you can't delete the directories (causes some FCs; annoying), but you can delete all the files, then make the directories read-only so they stay empty:
/data/tombstone
/data/system/dropbox
/data/system/usagestats
And def. install/use an app cache cleaner if you haven't already.
There's a program here (search for SD maid) that helps clean up, too. I haven't tried it but I've read about it; looks great.

Clear out or back up and delete old mms messages.
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Trebuchette said:
IIWY I'd check directories for usage files and phone dumps that can fill up phone space (700mb) fast — you can't delete the directories (causes some FCs; annoying), but you can delete all the files, then make the directories read-only so they stay empty:
/data/tombstone
/data/system/dropbox
/data/system/usagestats
And def. install/use an app cache cleaner if you haven't already.
There's a program here (search for SD maid) that helps clean up, too. I haven't tried it but I've read about it; looks great.
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Did this. There was a bunch of stuff, alas, icon is still there were working on cache clearing now, but weve done that before with different apps.

kodakeos said:
Did this. There was a bunch of stuff, alas, icon is still there were working on cache clearing now, but weve done that before with different apps.
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If she's rooted, download NotEnoughSpace. It will give you direct access to the 150 megabyte \data\data partition. Every application and any contacts synced to the Incredible are dumped in there. If less than 10% is free, you'll get a low memory message, and performance will degrade.
NotEnoughSpace lets you relocate stuff out of \data\data and frees up space in that directory.
I also discourage folks from downloading all their Facebook contacts. Completely unnecessary, and all dumped into \data\data anyway.
BTW, with NotEnoughSpace, I recommend moving what can be moved until you get up to about 20% free (i.e. 30megabytes) only to emmc or a NES partition, *not* the cache. You might have to clear the cache and then the info will be missing from the apps.

[Q] Major lag from touch screen suddenly

Hello.
I have posted this in the forums at Android Central and only got one response. I've had my phone since Feb of this year. Since 11/2 there is major lag. No issues on 11/1. Taps on the home screen are continuously being read as long presses. My lock screen is really laggy, as are home screens and most apps. Bad piggies for whatever reason is working just fine. Most other apps including the keyboard are very laggy. It just seems to be very slow to respond to touch all of a sudden. My phone is rooted stock GB. At AC, I was told an app was hogging RAM. I downloaded Memory Useage from the google play store but it doesn't seem to make a difference. I'm still getting that lady after killing and uninstalling apps. The lag is still there with the native launcher so I really don't think it has anything to do with GO Launcher. I used TiB to revert GOL back to the previous version. I also uninstalled GOLocker as well. I've done a soft reset but it didn't help.
Is there a way to see my Play update history so I can see which apps installed that night? I've always had the occasional lag but it wasn't ever really a big deal. This is greatly interfering with my use of the phone. I am lucky to type a word before the keyboard disappears. Low resources makes sense but I just can't figure out what app is hogging them.
Any help is greatly appreciated. I'm thinking of resting back to unrooted GB to upgrade to stock ICS.

The first app in the my apps list is the most recent one. So start uninstalling from the top.. Now if you had installed an app say 2 months ago, uninstalled it a month ago and then reinstalled it today then it won't show at the top of the list. It will be still at that same spot where it was 2 months ago. So keep in mind if you reinstalled some app.
Also you should uninstall apps from applications in settings so you can clear cache and data for that app. Or you restart after each uninstall.
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BluesRulez said:
The first app in the my apps list is the most recent one. So start uninstalling from the top.. Now if you had installed an app say 2 months ago, uninstalled it a month ago and then reinstalled it today then it won't show at the top of the list. It will be still at that same spot where it was 2 months ago. So keep in mind if you reinstalled some app.
Also you should uninstall apps from applications in settings so you can clear cache and data for that app. Or you restart after each uninstall.
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Thanks but my only options are Sort by Size and Sort Alphabetically. Are you talking about the applications list in Settings? Or is there a better place to uninstall? I know I can go into TiB as well.

cajunlibra said:
Thanks but my only options are Sort by Size and Sort Alphabetically. Are you talking about the applications list in Settings? Or is there a better place to uninstall? I know I can go into TiB as well.
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My apps list is in the play store..
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BluesRulez said:
My apps list is in the play store..
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Thanks. **Slaps forehead**

cajunlibra said:
Thanks. **Slaps forehead**
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This is so frustrating. In the Play Store App, my "Installed" list is alphabetical and the "All" list is listed by install order with the most recent at the top regardless of timestamp of update. I cannot see any option for changing the order. Should I just go by the TiB list? It is showing the apps in order of update and lets me clear cache and uninstall the apps.

cajunlibra said:
This is so frustrating. In the Play Store App, my "Installed" list is alphabetical and the "All" list is listed by install order with the most recent at the top regardless of timestamp of update. I cannot see any option for changing the order. Should I just go by the TiB list? It is showing the apps in order of update and lets me clear cache and uninstall the apps.
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Yeah
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cajunlibra said:
This is so frustrating. In the Play Store App, my "Installed" list is alphabetical and the "All" list is listed by install order with the most recent at the top regardless of timestamp of update. I cannot see any option for changing the order. Should I just go by the TiB list? It is showing the apps in order of update and lets me clear cache and uninstall the apps.
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Now I have removed all apps updated on 11/2 or overnight from the evening of 11/1. The only one I can't touch is Kies. I have frozen it with TiB but I'm still getting the super heavy lag. What can I do next? Do I need to just reset the whole device now and start from scratch?
This is really frustrating. I love my phone and haven't had it long enough to switch to something else. Are there any tests that I can perform to check on the screen itself?
I have also installed OS Monitor and the top apps using up the CPU are OS Monitor, SYstem, Google Play Movies & TV, Android System, gzip. THe % used varies from 0% up to 26% they may last only a second or two. Is there something wrong with my phone? I feel like I've exhausted finding a resource hog.

If you have a custom recovery installed then do a nandroid backup and flash a fresh install of something to test it. If its not broke in the test then you can restore tour backup and continue to troubleshoot. Honestly though its easy enough to just start fresh. I do it every few days/weeks on a new rom.
Heck at this point flash something ICS or even JB. I can't think of a reason to ever use a GB rom again.

someguyatx said:
If you have a custom recovery installed then do a nandroid backup and flash a fresh install of something to test it. If its not broke in the test then you can restore tour backup and continue to troubleshoot. Honestly though its easy enough to just start fresh. I do it every few days/weeks on a new rom.
Heck at this point flash something ICS or even JB. I can't think of a reason to ever use a GB rom again.
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Do you have a JB recommendation? I haven't created a nandroid backup because the only one I am aware of with with CWM and I have been told more than once that it isn't reliable on the E4GT so I just completed removed it from my phone. Are there any other methods for getting a nandroid backup?

cajunlibra said:
Do you have a JB recommendation? I haven't created a nandroid backup because the only one I am aware of with with CWM and I have been told more than once that it isn't reliable on the E4GT so I just completed removed it from my phone. Are there any other methods for getting a nandroid backup?
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Paranoid android 2.50. You can make a nandroid backup from el26 kernel with cwm of an pics rom.
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I'm currently using codename, great rom. I've only used my nandroid backups several times but they do work. Always just made my backup in whatever custom recovery I was using at the time. Can't remember what recovery I used on GB. Its been a while. Edit just use the el26 blues mentioned above
When switching between ROMs or experimenting I use SMS backup and restore and call log backup and restore from market. Its nice to have those old texts and call logs sometimes.

I use SMS Backup cuz I want to save my texts but I don't know if I need to save my call log.
Thanks for the recommendation. Paranoid Android looks pretty cool.
My external SD card is safe right? Does it need to be backed up as well?

cajunlibra said:
I use SMS Backup cuz I want to save my texts but I don't know if I need to save my call log.
Thanks for the recommendation. Paranoid Android looks pretty cool.
My external SD card is safe right? Does it need to be backed up as well?
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External SD never gets wiped during a rom flash. Even internal sd card doesn't.

What's your opinion on Triangle away? Is it safe to use on my e4gt? Just in case this doesn't work, I'll need to reset my count.
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cajunlibra said:
What's your opinion on Triangle away? Is it safe to use on my e4gt? Just in case this doesn't work, I'll need to reset my count.
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I have used once when I flashed jb tar and it worked. I prefer mobile Odin over desktop Odin to flash. Mobile Odin means no triangle.
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I use triangle away all the time, I never use mobile Odin. I think its more risky, not sure why, its all in my head

Thanks. One more question and hopefully we're done here.
I noticed that on the paranoid Android site, they no longer have OTAs. How do you get updates? Do you have to flash each time?
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Do any of you find it odd that bad piggies seems to be immune to this lag issue? I played it on my to work this morning. Other apps get bogged down. Thank you all for your help and advice.
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Custom roms typically require manual updates. Very few update automatically and i have never tried paranoid.
I'm not even sure what bad piggies is.

[Q] How to Remove NFSA

How the heck do i remove this useless trail game need for speed out of the note II? I only have 11 GIGS 5 USED I thought this Phone was 16GB..

Root , root, root.
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mrbkkt1 said:
Root , root, root.
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LOL!! What you need to do is have your phone rooted and use root explorer to remove it or you can "freeze" it with Titanium backup or just find a custom rom that does not have it in there... We only really have 3 custom roms to choose from though and I believe a couple of them are in the roms anyway (at least the link is)...
Or you can hook it up to your computer and you should be able to find where it is hidden (as far as the game data is concerned)

gaberosa said:
How the heck do i remove this useless trail game need for speed out of the note II? I only have 11 GIGS 5 USED I thought this Phone was 16GB..
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As the others are saying to Root your phone to remove NFS most wanted game, yes you can do that but the game is definitely not taking 5GB of your memory. that 5GB is separate partition for recovery, System and etc. So even if you remove all the APPs off of your phone you are not gonna get more 11GB b/c only 11GB is available for you to use. if you need more space then buy micro SD card which is not that expensive. i just bought a 64GB from BestBuy for 50bucks.

ill root it when 4.2 is out for this phone.. Damn Sam sung whats taking so long ><

The DEMO for this game is huge. Its like 2GB! I wonder how big the actual game is.
Unless it is the entire game and is just locked down... not sure, either way it uses a lot of space. So I removed it.

S2svetko said:
The DEMO for this game is huge. Its like 2GB! I wonder how big the actual game is.
Unless it is the entire game and is just locked down... not sure, either way it uses a lot of space. So I removed it.
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How did you remove it? I have root and titanium back up.. just delete the apk?

To be honest, I find it annoying not being able to delete demo games without rooting.
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mrbkkt1 said:
To be honest, I find it annoying not being able to delete demo games without rooting.
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+1
That is one thing that really bothers me about carrier handsets. At least when ya get bloat with PCs you can semi-easily just wipe and start fresh, wish there was a "full feature" and a "basic" setting for handsets when you set it up.

Since I am new to Android and stuff, would this work: In titanium backup (after rooting of course) if you press and hold the NFS game, a menu pops up, select Convert to User App, and then after it converts, uninstall?
I recently redid my phone so it is currently not rooted, I want to wait until 4.2 to re-root, but can someone confirm on this,

elite-fusion said:
Since I am new to Android and stuff, would this work: In titanium backup (after rooting of course) if you press and hold the NFS game, a menu pops up, select Convert to User App, and then after it converts, uninstall?,
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TB let's you uninstall system apps so it's unnecessary to convert it to a user app first.
Also, the apk for NFS that came on your phone is tiny - like 50KB. If you installed the update, that's nearly 2GB and it can be uninstalled without root. Just find it in the Application menu in settings, and click the "uninstall update" button. That'll free up the 2GB.

[Q] App Removal vs Freezing

In my stock rom that is rooted I have many of the original apps frozen.
Is there any advantage to removing these apps vs freezing them. There is plenty of space on the system partition and I don't think that having the extra files in the system partition slows the phone down.

king200 said:
In my stock rom that is rooted I have many of the original apps frozen.
Is there any advantage to removing these apps vs freezing them. There is plenty of space on the system partition and I don't think that having the extra files in the system partition slows the phone down.
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Not really, unless you need space.
Personally, I freeze apps I want to use later (like Maps) but uninstall everything else.

Uninstall apps you feel you would never use.. Examples are default live wallpapers cos I never use them.
Freeze you don't use normally but feel you may use once in a while... Examples here would be like maps.
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so I've rooted my OGP. Now what?

Rooted it today. First android phone I've ever owned (though been jailbreaking since 2009).
I installed Ttanium Backup, and i think i backed up my apps and data, but not exactly sure where to, as i don't have an SD card in it yet. If I backed up to the phone, I'm guessing that's mostly useless. But I'm new to this stuff so i don't really know.
So, now that i have root access, what apps should i be installing?
What stuff should i be uninstalling or freezing?
What cool things can i now do that i couldn't do yesterday?
Anything specific to the OGP that i should or should not do?

andygold said:
Rooted it today. First android phone I've ever owned (though been jailbreaking since 2009).
I installed Ttanium Backup, and i think i backed up my apps and data, but not exactly sure where to as i don't have an SD card in it yet. If I backed up to the phone, I'm guessing that's mostly useless. But I'm new to this stuff so i don't really know.
So, now that i have root access, what apps should i be installing?
What stuff should i be uninstalling our freezing?
What cool things can i now do that i couldn't do yesterday?
Anything specific to the OGP that i should or should not do?
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You can block ads, search adaway here on xda since Google recently rid the store of all ad blocking apps. You can use programs like sqlite editor to enable hotspot even if you're not subscribed to a plan that supports it. You can use xposed framework also here on xda (under our phones themes and apps) to apply themes to the phone. You can disable built in apps using titanium backup. Also, you should install Cwm under android development for our phone and make a nandroid backup in case you ever screw up your phone.
Best of all, you can install greenify root to make your battery last a lot longer. It hibernates apps for you that would normally run in the background.
When we have our bootloader unlocked is when the real fun will start though.
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lessthanzach said:
You can block ads, search adaway here on xda since Google recently rid the store of all ad blocking apps. You can use programs like sqlite editor to enable hotspot even if you're not subscribed to a plan that supports it. You can use xposed framework also here on xda (under our phones themes and apps) to apply themes to the phone. You can disable built in apps using titanium backup. Also, you should install Cwm under android development for our phone and make a nandroid backup in case you ever screw up your phone.
Best of all, you can install greenify root to make your battery last a lot longer. It hibernates apps for you that would normally run in the background.
When we have our bootloader unlocked is when the real fun will start though.
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Thank you!
Couple more questions...I was able to do a search for adaway, and found it, but you mention (under our phones themes and apps), and could not find that. Is there a section that just has XDA Apps in it? All I was able to find was forums, and not repositories (don't know if that's the right word).
Basic newbie question...if an app is listed as being for Jellybean 4.1, can we use it even it was made for a Galaxy S3 for example? If it's Jellybean 4.1 is it good to go?
As to adaway...if you disable ads, will some programs refuse to run?
Is the hotspot app, safe for my phone bill?
If you "disable" apps using titanium backup, does it remove them from the phone, or just hide them? What is freezing an app? And if later you want to have them back (let's say for a trip to the cell store) are they readily returned to view?
I was under the impression (probably wrongly) that CWM at this point could brick our phone. Am I mistaken? And where does the nandroid backup get stored? Hopefully not on the phone...
I ask a lot of the above questions as being a new android user (2-weeks now), I'm clicking or checking out everything I see on the phone (and in the store(s) to learn about what it can do. I'm also installing a ton of apps that are new to me, and I've also gone to some non-Google Play stores to DL some stuff. I know that sooner or later I'm going to want to restore the phone to factory stock to get rid of conflicts, viruses (virii?), and anything that does not play well with other stuff. So, during this learning quest, I assume I'm going to frag the phone in some way, and will have the need to return it to stock (hopefully without needing to go back to the store)!!! I just want to have a bit of assurance that with everything I do, I can get back to stock.
Lastly, is there anything somewhat similar to iTunes that will make a restore a bit less time consuming. Is Titanium Backup what I"m searchnig for?

Wasn't aware of greenify root.. will give that one a go right now!
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lessthanzach said:
You can block ads, search adaway here on xda since Google recently rid the store of all ad blocking apps. You can use programs like sqlite editor to enable hotspot even if you're not subscribed to a plan that supports it. You can use xposed framework also here on xda (under our phones themes and apps) to apply themes to the phone. You can disable built in apps using titanium backup. Also, you should install Cwm under android development for our phone and make a nandroid backup in case you ever screw up your phone.
Best of all, you can install greenify root to make your battery last a lot longer. It hibernates apps for you that would normally run in the background.
When we have our bootloader unlocked is when the real fun will start though.
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Thanks for mention greenify root, I install it. It's a hit!!

Now that I'm rooted (and installed some associated apps) I've noticed some laggy operation. When I'm on pretty much any of the home screens, and click on the app drawer icon, I'm brought to the page where I see "Apps", "Downloads", and "Widgets" at the top, but occasionally I have a blank screen below that. It stays blank for anywhere from one to three seconds and then the apps and folders appear. Sometimes they will show up instantly, but quite often there is a few second lag. The only things I've installed since rooting are Root Checker, Titanium Backup and Greenify. I'm not sure whether it is the root or the new apps, so I guess I can uninstall the three apps and see.
I also seem to be getting the circling "please wait" message more often than in the past.
Anybody else experiencing this? And does this sound like a root issue or an issue from one of the three apps?