This forum topic is dedicated to the P6 and Mate, so obviously they have to be somehow "compatible", otherwise it wouldn't be a shared topic.
In what way are they similar (I can also read the tech specs, so that's not what I mean)? I'm actually referring to the pending 4.4.2 release for the P6, while nobody mentions the same upgrade for the Mate. Is anything like that coming? Is the release of the P6 4.4.2 a lead-in to the same release for the Mate?
I'm also a bit confused on the developer section of this forum. Again, in the Mate topic, almost everything deals with the P6.
Anyone care to explain to a Huawei Mate owner who desperately needs >= 4.3 to do some experimenting with BLE?
TIA all
Basically, all you have is the Mate Development section.
There is however some shared projects since the hardware is so alike, like Cyanogenmod.
At the moment, no 4.3 for Mate nor P6.
We wouldn't know if you guys are getting kitkat since the Chinese are a bit puzzling when it comes to dates or manuals.
But I am sure once we got official kitkat for P6, someone could port it over. I am pretty sure I'll be able to, problem is I don't have a device nor the confidence to ask someone else to test my untested work.
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Thx PulseDroid, partly answers my question.
I was referring to this thread: 4.4.2 KitKat beta for P6.
So basically, it seems P6 is getting straight into 4.4 (skipping 4.3). And hence my question was: if P6 and Mate are so alike, when and if at all, can we expect this for the Mate?
I am not necessarily in need of a custom ROM (although I have installed several ones in my Xperia Neo days), I just want the BLE integrated into the Mate to work (which it can not until 4.3).
We wouldn't know if you guys are getting Kitkat since the Chinese are a bit puzzling when it comes to dates or manuals.
We don't know. - Most likely but there is no evidence for us to be certain.
Yes the P6 is skipping 4.3. - Most devices did this, a lot of the more well known manufactures also did this.
So, we don't know when / if you will get 4.4.x for the Mate. - But even if not, Developers here on XDA might be able to port it over to the Mate.
Mate will most likely get it. I remember reading that there were a couple of phones besides P6, that was promised to get update to Emui2.0 (assuming that they bring Android 4.4 with Emui2.0, and not just emui2.0), and i remember the P2 and A199 included among it. Im not sure Mate was named but it most likely would be part of the batch to get update. Yet note that since P6 is Huawei's "flagship", the P6 gets updates sooner. And since the specs are nearly same then i guess they are first waiting to get a stable release on P6 and then move it to other phones like Mate, Honor 3, D2, that all use similar chip.
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Hello guys.
As some of you might have already heard, the sailfish 1.0 stable version is out and it is told that it will be ported in every android device. I know that the hardware is pretty different (K3V2 vs Snap 400) so I don't know if this is even possible. If anyone got any news, please share it with us.
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Apparently the OP cares. Now if you dont have something useful to say then please don't write useless posts. We really dont care..
Hi Everyone,
I did some thread cleaning. Please remember to always post respectfully, there is really no excuse to flame other users!
Thanks!
Ok, that OS will not reach P6 soon, as he is reaching now for other phones, which are not on Android or iOS.
I'd like this too.
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Ok, that OS will not reach P6 soon, as he is reaching now for other phones, which are not on Android or iOS.
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Why? Xiaomi mi2, galaxy s3 and some other chinese phones already got sailfish ported and it will soonly be released for everyone to port it. I don't think P6 is too far from sailfish os.
I'm expecting Sailfish OS to be relatively easy to port since it's able to use android's drivers for hardware. :victory:
Hello,
I have a question on what is needed by developers to make Lollipop ROMs for our S3.
I have been following the releases and know that the images for the Nexus devices are up and that OTAs have begun. Is that what developers need as a starting point?
As you can tell I'm fairly clueless about this so I appreciate any information because I like to follow along.
Thanks!
Devs need the actual sources to build, which have been released. Unfortunately they can't work with the factory images for Nexus devices.
If I remember correctly, it took 2 or 3 months to get a usable KitKat build from Slim. (the first ones to do it, I recall.) We'd be lucky to see it by the new year, in my opinion.
Thank you for the info.
So they take the Nexus sources and then build it for our devices and then figure out how to add drivers for our hardware, etc?
Thank you for the timeline. I'm hoping it will be sooner, but your estimate is more realistic
I saw this in the S3 international forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/rom-namelessrom-t2939673
And
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/wip-cyanogenmod-12-t2936990
Looks like they are hard at work on lollipop for their devices. I wonder if anyone is working on it for ours yet?
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I saw this in the S3 international forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/orig-development/rom-namelessrom-t2939673
And
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/development/wip-cyanogenmod-12-t2936990
Looks like they are hard at work on lollipop for their devices. I wonder if anyone is working on it for ours yet?
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Im wondering the same and if anybody has taken interest in building it for the d2lte variants like the att etc..
I haven't seen anything yet in the forums, but I'm still hopeful that someone will!
Found this today. Sweeeeet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-att/orig-development/cyanogenmod-12-t2944071
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Found this today. Sweeeeet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3-att/orig-development/cyanogenmod-12-t2944071
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Yeah I been on the ROM since it was provided.
As the owner of a Nexus 7 2013 LTE (deb), I can't help but feel as if nobody - especially not El Goog, actually give a frak about this device:
No Lollipop OTA yet
No Lollipop Factory Images
Hardly any roms
And not a single word from Google about the first two. Nada.
Now I've been using the one of two Lollipop roms actually available for the device, and I'm liking it, but I would have liked CM or Slimrom or any other custom variation (GROGG88's version is excellent, but I like to have variation to choose form - and now that we don't have xposed it's more important than ever).
I'd like to hear from you users and developers: Until Google step up their game (and even when they do), what do you think we can do to improve deb compatibility and rom variation?
Developers, is there any specific reason you develop for flo exclusively? (other than - I'm assuming - that it's the only device you've got?)
Bare in mind that this is an open discussion thread, I'm not blaming or requesting anything from anyone. Let's just talk about it.
I own a deb device. And agree that support is limited. I have grogg88's rom installed and must say it's one of the best available. I do also have cm installed. But wish there was more available. Hopefully Google will release the update soon
Of course it's not abandonware. Stupid question. Lollipop only came out 1 month ago and still has major problems on the devices running it.
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Of course it's not abandonware. Stupid question. Lollipop only came out 1 month ago and still has major problems on the devices running it.
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This. With all the issues being reported on this forum alone, I have no desire to update to 5.0 or 5.0.1. I want all the new bells, whistles, and pretty colors, but 4.4.4 does everything I need and want.
I'm really hoping the GravityBox devs will find a way to get it to work with ART soonish.
Good people,
This is a bit unusual for me, that the p6 forum will be so quite. There was time where I'll be so confused as to which rom to try and was changing them like my under wear .
Lately it's so quite it makes me wonder . I just so hope that we aren't left in the dark and that someone out the is developing smoothing good underground :fingers-crossed:
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Good people,
This is a bit unusual for me, that the p6 forum will be so quite. There was time where I'll be so confused as to which rom to try and was changing them like my under wear .
Lately it's so quite it makes me wonder . I just so hope that we aren't left in the dark and that someone out the is developing smoothing good underground :fingers-crossed:
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It's very simple, our phone is getting old, and Huawei did a good job to make it slow,buggy and made developing very hard.
Huawei showed us, that they didn't care much about their customers, they waited very long to release sourcecodes, didn't improve the kernel usw. They only cared about there Ui, which is, in my opinion, the crappiest thing ever done.
We had 2 developers, who made real roms from source, but to do this they needed to use old binaries from huawei, which made it impossible to make "real" custom roms, which cpuld be officially. I don't want to say that these Roms were bad. They were really good for the sources we had. But Bugs'n Errors could mostly only be fixed with dirty hacks and workarounds .
Now our Phone has ended its livespan it's almost 2 Years old.
The dev's weren't really able to go on in development, because there was no way to get LP working on our device and every sourcecode like Carbon,CM etc upgraded their rom to Lollipop. So there will be no fixed, no updates for a KK-based rom.
I have not really looked at the new sources and can't say that we can not build LP with those, but to make a rom, like our last Custom Roms were done. I mean with using precompiled binaries, like the other Roms did, there is no way to build LP without an official LP-Rom from Huawei ... and I don't belive that this will come .. I mean ... Huawei doesn't care about this phone anymore .. it has the P7/p6s and even never ones.
Ps.: Also I want to say that our phone is really bad build, .. i have my 2nd screen in my p6, the first had a subpixelerror .. so I send it in, it took Huawei 8 weeks to repair the screen ... now a year later, I have exactly the same error in exactly the same position ... It looks Like I'll be buying a new phone in near future ... the google ara looks great
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It's very simple, our phone is getting old, and Huawei did a good job to make it slow,buggy and made developing very hard.
Huawei showed us, that they didn't care much about their customers, they waited very long to release sourcecodes, didn't improve the kernel usw. They only cared about there Ui, which is, in my opinion, the crappiest thing ever done.
We had 2 developers, who made real roms from source, but to do this they needed to use old binaries from huawei, which made it impossible to make "real" custom roms, which cpuld be officially. I don't want to say that these Roms were bad. They were really good for the sources we had. But Bugs'n Errors could mostly only be fixed with dirty hacks and workarounds .
Now our Phone has ended its livespan it's almost 2 Years old.
The dev's weren't really able to go on in development, because there was no way to get LP working on our device and every sourcecode like Carbon,CM etc upgraded their rom to Lollipop. So there will be no fixed, no updates for a KK-based rom.
I have not really looked at the new sources and can't say that we can not build LP with those, but to make a rom, like our last Custom Roms were done. I mean with using precompiled binaries, like the other Roms did, there is no way to build LP without an official LP-Rom from Huawei ... and I don't belive that this will come .. I mean ... Huawei doesn't care about this phone anymore .. it has the P7/p6s and even never ones.
Ps.: Also I want to say that our phone is really bad build, .. i have my 2nd screen in my p6, the first had a subpixelerror .. so I send it in, it took Huawei 8 weeks to repair the screen ... now a year later, I have exactly the same error in exactly the same position ... It looks Like I'll be buying a new phone in near future ... the google ara looks great
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Thank you for the detailed reply and I guess you're correct by saying it is time to upgrade . Which device do you prefer, as there's plenty of good android devices out there?
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Thank you for the detailed reply and I guess you're correct by saying it is time to upgrade . Which device do you prefer, as there's plenty of good android devices out there?
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I'm waiting for "project ara" from google, but I quess many other phones are very good on the market ... eg. google nexus 6 or 5, also samsung devices have a very good community with many devs and roms, but I don't like their build-quality and also their price-policy, ... there are many things I hate about samsung
I agree with everything said above! The P6 was a great idea, at the time it was the highest spec phone for the price (in the uk). In the months after i bought my P6 however, new high spec - low price phones were brought out (nexus 5, oneplus one) that were just better than the p6. I don't mind EMUI, but I can see how some would dislike it. I dislike the lack of support that Huawei gives, and I will definitely not be buying a Huawei phone again.
Don't know about you guys, but I'm waiting for the OnePlus 2! Hopefully they will keep the price down
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I'm waiting for "project ara" from google, but I quess many other phones are very good on the market ... eg. google nexus 6 or 5, also samsung devices have a very good community with many devs and roms, but I don't like their build-quality and also their price-policy, ... there are many things I hate about samsung
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Mmh Project Ara is nice but I'm still hoping for vsenn.com they din't really showed anything until now but they promise very good stuff
I'm going maybe for Sailfish OS, I like the idea of the OS and the mentality of the company (Sooo much communtity listening).
Sadly I come less and less often here, only to find... nothing new. The Ascend P6 is a great phone... and HAD potential, which was not used. I am also looking forward to the end of my contract (November) and choosing something else. Most likely it won't be Huawei again.
Because my Phone broke after i dropped it and because I thought the develeopment was dying i switched to xperia z2.
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Thank you for the detailed reply and I guess you're correct by saying it is time to upgrade . Which device do you prefer, as there's plenty of good android devices out there?
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Wait for the P8
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Or HTC One M9
Agreed
It really has gone quiet. Perhaps we can ask XDA to add some tumbleweed animations to the P6 page.
I tend to agree with the first post, the P6 was ok but never quite good enough. I have multiple devices and the P6 has now been relegated to bottom of the list
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It really has gone quiet. Perhaps we can ask XDA to add some tumbleweed animations to the P6 page.
I tend to agree with the first post, the P6 was ok but never quite good enough. I have multiple devices and the P6 has now been relegated to bottom of the list
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Hello my fellow guys, just want to let you know that I've got myself the beast Sony Xperia Z2 and am so delighted. Now just patiently waiting for the Lollipop update.
I really liked the P6 actually. Great specs, amazing design and really really cheap. I kind of liked EMUI too. Its sad to see its development die out and I do wish Huawei people were more involved.
I will be sticking to my P6 at least until google ARA comes out.
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Hello my fellow guys, just want to let you know that I've got myself the beast Sony Xperia Z2 and am so delighted. Now just patiently waiting for the Lollipop update.
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I went with Samsung on many occasions but recently I switched to Sony and I have to say I am very happy. I bought the Z1 Compact, high quality hardware and software and timely updates. I also bought the massive Z Ultra because the price recently dropped to bargain level.
The hardware manufacturers underestimate the value in keeping the phone updated in good time.
In my opinion, a user with a phone with regular quality updates is likely to stay with that brand.
Hi, HAM devs!
You propably don't know me yet, as i am new to the HAM. I already built CM7, 10 and 11 on LG devices though, so i am not totally new to android development/building.
Well.. i just got this Ascend Mate, and thought it would be nice to have a custom rom on it, like i had on other devices.
But all i can find is closed source flashables. Seems like joe.stone is the only one who shared atleast something.
Don't you guys think we could achieve more, if we work together?
I really want to work on custom stuff for our HAM, but it would be easier if i don't have to start from scratch, while a bunch of people COULD share their experiences with me.
So please contact me, if you can provide some useful informations on how to build for the HAM. - Let's do something!
- MisjudgedTwat a.k.a. BangL
Dont hold your breath mate, in my opinion This is one of the worst forums on xda !
Well, maybe i just start instead of flaming.
Here we go: https://github.com/hwmt1-u06
If anybody is interested in participating to this, just let me know.
I think the main reason for that is that most of the stuff here was developed in Russia or China and those of us here just basically searched online and found ROMs and posted links here.
Joe Stone was the main Dev here and he's moved on. Gold Concert did some good work here too and moved on. Outside of these guys I think the rest of people in the group are like me. We know a little about developing but we're not Devs so as a result the forum has pretty much died.
I would welcome your developing skills here right now:beer:
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yeah, i kinda figured that out already, my first post was a little bit fast maybe.
well, let's see what i can do... so far i can boot, but sound and reboots arent working well (maybe more).
currently trying to contact mrAlmid, and looking into his roms for a hint to the right direction.
Just a thought. Since huawei mate and huawei p6 are essentially same hardware (same motherboard, same cpu/gpu) with main difference in display, maybe some of the sources for p6 will come in handy?
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Just a thought. Since huawei mate and huawei p6 are essentially same hardware (same motherboard, same cpu/gpu) with main difference in display, maybe some of the sources for p6 will come in handy?
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absolutely, yes.
alright, i got my first pretty-much-useable build done, so let the bug-hunting begin...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/asc...-unofficial-cyanogenmod-11-0-beta-v0-t3229182
Once a Finnish developer tried porting sailfish to the P6, he (or someone he forked from) had managed to collect almost all the sources for the P6. You can try tinkering around, if you have time, you could figure out how to build the needed libraries for the graphics stack from source (all the other devs jumped the boat already), if you succeed then we may have a chance of compiling a working Lollipop rom. For the mate, dont forget to change the touchscreen drivers as it differs on the P6 and the Mate. Heres the repo: https://github.com/locusf/cm11-p6
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Once a Finnish developer tried porting sailfish to the P6, he (or someone he forked from) had managed to collect almost all the sources for the P6. You can try tinkering around, if you have time, you could figure out how to build the needed libraries for the graphics stack from source (all the other devs jumped the boat already), if you succeed then we may have a chance of compiling a working Lollipop rom. For the mate, dont forget to change the touchscreen drivers as it differs on the P6 and the Mate. Heres the repo: https://github.com/locusf/cm11-p6
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a working lollipop rom? i dont feel like beeing THAT professional, to be honest. but i will check if i can use something for more stability on kk. thanks for the information, though! maybe i can find something to fix "reboot to recovery"-freeze
I got my current rom (carbon rom 4.4.4) from this website:
http://mateone4you.blogspot.nl/2015/04/carbon-rom-444-for-huawei-ascend-mate.html
He has a few more too.
Edit: I guess you know, reading your CM thread, but some may not....
Would welcome some more development, especially bluetooth connecting to audio is horrible...
I tried his other roms too, only got carbon working nicely.
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I got my current rom (carbon rom 4.4.4) from this website:
http://mateone4you.blogspot.nl/2015/04/carbon-rom-444-for-huawei-ascend-mate.html
He has a few more too.
Edit: I guess you know, reading your CM thread, but some may not....
Would welcome some more development, especially bluetooth connecting to audio is horrible...
I tried his other roms too, only got carbon working nicely.
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yeah, that's Alex Midnight (mrAlmid), i used some huawei binaries off his roms already.
i will see what i can do about bluetooth a2dp, dont have to much hope though, that a2dp stuff was a hell on LG's p990 already.