Will rooting stop the ability to do Samsung OS updates or Samsung purchases from their app store?
From what I've found; Yes, rooting disables the OS update. You can use the Wanam Xposed module to re-enable them, but I'm not entirely sure it will flash properly.
I can't speak for the Samsung app store as I don't use it.
mhonard said:
Will rooting stop the ability to do Samsung OS updates or Samsung purchases from their app store?
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I will stop updates from Samsung but when updates come out you'll just have to flash update with Odin. If you search around forum you can find out how. It's very easy to do. I don't think it will mess up nothing with Samsung store. I don't use it and got rid of it but I did have it on after rooting and everything was fine.
Pretty sure you won't be able to use Samsung video Hub because of Copy Protection after root
vincey2kr1 said:
Pretty sure you won't be able to use Samsung video Hub because of Copy Protection after root
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Rooted and I downloaded a few movies from Samsung store, they have a weird format (non standard format)... Works fine. Samsung store no problem.
Also downloaded movies from the hub, again no problem...
You can't get OTA updates but you can download the roms and flash via ODIN (if you have Knox warranty void 0x0 there's no problem). This won't trip Knox warranty void...
Clean rom or just stock rooted? I get kicked to home screen from samsung video store.
ultramag69 said:
Rooted and I downloaded a few movies from Samsung store, they have a weird format (non standard format)... Works fine. Samsung store no problem.
Also downloaded movies from the hub, again no problem...
You can't get OTA updates but you can download the roms and flash via ODIN (if you have Knox warranty void 0x0 there's no problem). This won't trip Knox warranty void...
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vincey2kr1 said:
Clean rom or just stock rooted? I get kicked to home screen from samsung video store.
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Do you both have access to Hub Music??? What recovery are you both using?
vincey2kr1 said:
Clean rom or just stock rooted? I get kicked to home screen from samsung video store.
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Stock rooted, with stock recovery and xposed cosmetic status installed...
Haven't tried the music hub as I've got what I want...
On video hub though our country got was issued a 5 movie for free voucher. I got all 5 movies... and a few others too from the movie hub...
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hello,
i got one used, discovered it was rooted, no samsung pass or pay or even netflix from play store
i tried with unrooting from play store it says no root detected, i tried flashing the whole software through odin, and flashing AP alone and yet useless !
what can i do ?
vodovodo said:
hello,
i got one used, discovered it was rooted, no samsung pass or pay or even netflix from play store
i tried with unrooting from play store it says no root detected, i tried flashing the whole software through odin, and flashing AP alone and yet useless !
what can i do ?
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Unfortunately you can't do anything. Samsung devices come with a built in security feature called the Knox warranty bit. It's a one-time programmable Efuse that is able to detect if a custom operating system has ever been installed. High Security applications such as Samsung Health, Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass and Secure Folder are permanently disabled. In select locations the Warranty bit is also used to deny warranty service. The best course of action would be to contact the seller and request a replacement device with the warranty bit in tact. Or refund
Edit: Netflix just isn't supported from the play store on the Tab S4 for some reason. It has nothing to do with root access.
last1youlove said:
Unfortunately you can't do anything. Samsung devices come with a built in security feature called the Knox warranty bit. It's a one-time programmable Efuse that is able to detect if a custom operating system has ever been installed. High Security applications such as Samsung Health, Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass and Secure Folder are permanently disabled. In select locations the Warranty bit is also used to deny warranty service. The best course of action would be to contact the seller and request a replacement device with the warranty bit in tact. Or refund
Edit: Netflix just isn't supported from the play store on the Tab S4 for some reason. It has nothing to do with root access.
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As someone who is trying to install netflix, I'm constantly met with "not compatible."
Is there a way to actually use it again?
You could try installing the APK from here.
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/57688
No Guarantees it will work.
Hi guys
It’s been awhile since I had a Samsung phone
Anyhow I remember that if you are rooting your phone I will not be able to go back to stock and keep receiving updates regularly and also the user will not be able to use any Samsung service since there is some security on the device board
I wonder if it’s still the situation in galaxy s21 series
thanks
Yes OTA updates will be disabled for the rooted device. But you can easily install them if you so wish without loosing root by temporarily removing root without rebooting the device. Follow this guide for full process.
As for the services, I didn't hear about a service that's disabled by rooting. But if it happens you can easily replace said services by downloading alternatives or using specific modules in magisk manager.
Thank you
I’m asking because if I will ever want to sell the device it will be impossible
sagiag said:
Thank you
I’m asking because if I will ever want to sell the device it will be impossible
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Not at all.
You can just do this:
Unroot.
Remove Samsung and google account.
Flash stock ROM [Optional, unless you flashed a custom ROM]
Lock the bootloader.
And that's it you can sell it as just lightly used.
I think you wouldn't be able to use Secure Folder after root.
dalanik said:
I think you wouldn't be able to use Secure Folder after root.
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Knox is disabled after rooting, similarly anything knox dependant will be disabled as well. I thought he meant some other services like samsung health or other bloatware.
Hello friends,
I unlocked the bootloader and installed TWRP a few days ago on my A50, rooted it with Magisk, but I don't want to use it like that anymore because I can't use Samsung Pass and for some reason I felt a bit uncomfortable.
Maybe there are more reasons to use it this way, but I'm a regular user and I got into these things out of curiosity.
Yesterday Magisk had been unrooted and the phone was completely out of the way I installed it to test it.
I still don't know if there is a way for me to return to that pure a50 state because Knox I saw something troublesome in a few places, I want your help on this.
What do you think I should do?
I would suspect that you have tripped Knox. This results in that you cannot use many apps, e.g., Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, and Samsung Flow. I think it also includes Samsung Pass.
Unfortunately, this is not reversible as it is in the phone's hardware that it can't be restored once the Knox has been tripped.
You can reinstall the stock ROM if you miss the stock experience, but you won't be able to use these Samsung apps.
TrulyPain said:
I would suspect that you have tripped Knox. This results in that you cannot use many apps, e.g., Samsung Pay, Samsung Health, and Samsung Flow. I think it also includes Samsung Pass.
Unfortunately, this is not reversible as it is in the phone's hardware that it can't be restored once the Knox has been tripped.
You can reinstall the stock ROM if you miss the stock experience, but you won't be able to use these Samsung apps.
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yes i can't use any samsung apps. i'll probably root it and try some things changed via buildprop that i saw in some forums, do you think they will work?
Or if I can't make it original, I'm thinking if I should install a custom rom and kernel, I'm very torn. (I'm open to suggestions)
hsynmtl35 said:
yes i can't use any samsung apps. i'll probably root it and try some things changed via buildprop that i saw in some forums, do you think they will work?
Or if I can't make it original, I'm thinking if I should install a custom rom and kernel, I'm very torn. (I'm open to suggestions)
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will not work. knox is tripped so you better find alternative apps
hello everyone,
I have and use android phones last 10+ years, always rooted. But I never had samsung phone.
Now I hear only half informations from my buddy, that its dangeous to root samsung because of knox (i dunno what knox even is).
So, now I'm thinking to buy S20 and want to root it, and my question is..:
If I root it, is anything ''broken'' on the phone ? Can phone still recieve official Samsung OTA updates?
What are minuses? what to look for? What about this "knox"?
Please need informaions
Well, I've owned a couple of Samsung devices over the years and I guess I can speak a bit from experience. Here's what you should know:
1.- U.S. phones have their bootloaders locked, so avoid buying a U.S. variant if you want to root it (some people want them for their Snapdragon chips)
2.- Knox is an e-fuse in the phone motherboard. Once you trip it by flashing custom software (root it), then that fuse will be tripped forever. You cannot get your Knox your status back to official unless you change the motherboard. Even flashing stock firmware will never get you this back to official.
3.- A lot of Samsung's security apps check for this fuse and will refuse to work if they detect that you've tripped it. Samsung Pay, Pass, Secure Folder are just some examples of features that will stop working when they detect a tripped Knox fuse. Some of these have bypass with root, but some don't.
4.- You will not get OTA updates with an unlocked bootloader, let alone root. It IS possible to get them back but only after flashing stock firmware and blocking the bootloader. These don't seem to check for Knox.
Understood, Thank You alot for informations and help!
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Well, I've owned a couple of Samsung devices over the years and I guess I can speak a bit from experience. Here's what you should know:
1.- U.S. phones have their bootloaders locked, so avoid buying a U.S. variant if you want to root it (some people want them for their Snapdragon chips)
2.- Knox is an e-fuse in the phone motherboard. Once you trip it by flashing custom software (root it), then that fuse will be tripped forever. You cannot get your Knox your status back to official unless you change the motherboard. Even flashing stock firmware will never get you this back to official.
3.- A lot of Samsung's security apps check for this fuse and will refuse to work if they detect that you've tripped it. Samsung Pay, Pass, Secure Folder are just some examples of features that will stop working when they detect a tripped Knox fuse. Some of these have bypass with root, but some don't.
4.- You will not get OTA updates with an unlocked bootloader, let alone root. It IS possible to get them back but only after flashing stock firmware and blocking the bootloader. These don't seem to check for Knox.
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Hiiii. I currently have a Samsung S20 and I have rooted it before. Once you root it Knox security will be tripped and you will not be able to get it back. This means you will lose access to apps like Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass and Samsung Health. You will not receive OTA updates if you're rooted, but if you flash stock firmware again and lock the bootloader you can start receiving updates again. I currently have a custom ROM installed and I have my ROM rooted. To me, it's been a great experience overall. I didn't really use the Knox features, so I didn't care much about losing it. I have loved rooting my S20 and using a custom ROM !!
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Hiiii. I currently have a Samsung S20 and I have rooted it before. Once you root it Knox security will be tripped and you will not be able to get it back. This means you will lose access to apps like Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass and Samsung Health. You will not receive OTA updates if you're rooted, but if you flash stock firmware again and lock the bootloader you can start receiving updates again. I currently have a custom ROM installed and I have my ROM rooted. To me, it's been a great experience overall. I didn't really use the Knox features, so I didn't care much about losing it. I have loved rooting my S20 and using a custom ROM !!
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Actually you can use Samsung Health, just currently no version above 6.19 (2 versions behind current) until we find a way to patch it...i use it daily with my Watch 4 on Rooted S20+ 5G....
73sydney said:
Actually you can use Samsung Health, just currently no version above 6.19 (2 versions behind current) until we find a way to patch it...i use it daily with my Watch 4 on Rooted S20+ 5G....
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Ohh okay !!! Thank you for letting us know !! I don't use Samsung Health so I had not tested it myself, but I had heard that Samsung Health doesn't work with root. Thanks for telling us it works fine !!
so, when rooted there are no OTAs.. thats a nono for me heh.. but question, if no OTAs come from mobile itself, is it possible to get uprades through PC then.. (Kies) maybe ?
maxis123 said:
so, when rooted there are no OTAs.. thats a nono for me heh.. but question, if no OTAs come from mobile itself, is it possible to get uprades through PC then.. (Kies) maybe ?
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Yeah you can flash updates with something like Odin (never used Kies myself, I don't know if it still works)
maxis123 said:
so, when rooted there are no OTAs.. thats a nono for me heh.. but question, if no OTAs come from mobile itself, is it possible to get uprades through PC then.. (Kies) maybe ?
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ODIN
Flash HOME CSC if you want to keep your data
hello, i want to sell my phone and i want to unroot it b4 doing it but the problem is that when i flashed the original boot the phone would be in a state that it wont be root but stuff like software update from settings and google pay/bank apps wouldnt work. its there any way to unroot the device back to be like it was original when i bought it?
Welcome to XDA!
For your problem, I think the supersu app can allow you to unroot
Samarimama said:
Welcome to XDA!
For your problem, I think the supersu app can allow you to unroot
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the thing is it won't be like it used to be, when ever I boot it will say unofficial software and bank apps wouldn't work, I used magisk to root with AP
Diosee said:
hello, i want to sell my phone and i want to unroot it b4 doing it but the problem is that when i flashed the original boot the phone would be in a state that it wont be root but stuff like software update from settings and google pay/bank apps wouldnt work. its there any way to unroot the device back to be like it was original when i bought it?
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Unfortunately when you flash magisk, you will never be able to use banking apps even if it's unrooted. That happens because samsung have knox bit which is tripped when custom software is flashed. That happens in phones cpu and it is irreversible.
AljosaXXX said:
Unfortunately when you flash magisk, you will never be able to use banking apps even if it's unrooted. That happens because samsung have knox bit which is tripped when custom software is flashed. That happens in phones cpu and it is irreversible.
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You can use banking apps when phone is rooted and you enable denylist in magisk for specific apps. But when knox is tripped and you flash original firmware, you won't have that option