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[App][Alpha][10/01] Flip For Speaker/Silence Call (Inpsired by Sense)

Released to market!
Remember all those nifty little tricks in Sense which you sometimes miss on cm7 and cm9? I thought about getting those features into an app which can be used with all ROMS. The main one I'm thinking of is the flip for speaker but there are also other ones like the loud ring in pocket and so on. It was really something that I wanted in an app. The closest one I found was Sanity which switched on the speaker as soon as the user takes the phone off his ear, which can lead to troubles such as in a classroom/meeting.
So far, I have a working version of the Flip For Speaker with an option to disable it of course. I'll will try to port the other features. I would like to get your opinion of small features that improve the usability like this one and I can try including them as well. They can be from other ROMS of other phones like say something from TouchWiz or MotoBlur. Post them here and I'll see what I can do.
Meanwhile, here is an alpha version of the app if you would like to test it out. If you run into errors, let me know. Try getting a logcat if you can. I'm open to suggestions.
Current Features:
Flip to Silence
Flip for Speaker
Pick up to answer (Meaning hold it up to your ear)
Changelog:
Version 1.0
Initial market release!
Get it from: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ajaykumar.sense
Version 0.6
Fixed the mute bug on pick up to answer
Version 0.5.1
Holo theme for ICS onwards
Version 0.5
Options for speaker volume and headset volume
Version 0.4
Pick up to answer
Version 0.3
+Should support other devices (Earlier had some issues with the sensor readings)
^Improved the usage of proximity sensor
Version 0.2
+Added option for flip to silence call
Version 0.1.1a
^Fixed bugs
Version 0.1a
+Flip to silence call
^Improved flip mechanism by including pitch and roll.
Version 0
+Flip for speaker
I would also like a nice name for the app so suggestions are welcome!(Don't want to use the word sense in case of any copyright issues later on when hopefully, I can release the app into the Market).
If anyone is willing to test on other devices, please let me know.
Source code: https://github.com/ajaykumarkannan/Sense-and-Sanity
You can report issues and see the existing issues here: https://github.com/ajaykumarkannan/Sense-and-Sanity/issues?state=open
You can also make feature requests there.

Heres a good app to control flip to speaker: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.matthew.rice
Only thing is, its a paid app, but works very well for me.

Nice find!
I think I'll continue developing this app so that it can suit my purposes better and it's fun developing
I'm also thinking of adding flip to silence feature. Anything else you would like to see, let me know.

Can you develop apps like internet pass through of sense ?
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AceRoom said:
Remember all those nifty little tricks in Sense which you sometimes miss on cm7 and cm9? I thought about getting those features into an app which can be used with all ROMS. The main one I'm thinking of is the flip for speaker but there are also other ones like the loud ring in pocket and so on. It was really something that I wanted in an app. The closest one I found was Sanity which switched on the speaker as soon as the user takes the phone off his ear, which can lead to troubles such as in a classroom/meeting.
So far, I have a working version of the Flip For Speaker with an option to disable it of course. I'll will try to port the other features. I would like to get your opinion of small features that improve the usability like this one and I can try including them as well. They can be from other ROMS of other phones like say something from TouchWiz or MotoBlur. Post them here and I'll see what I can do.
Meanwhile, here is an alpha version of the app if you would like to test it out. If you run into errors, let me know. Try getting a logcat if you can. I'm open to suggestions.
Also, I would like a nice name for the app (Don't want to use the word sense in case of any copyright issues later on when hopefully, I can release the app into the Market).
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Mods, could you please move this thread to the app section. I accidentally posted in general.
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What about the clock with the same animation features?? Would love to have it
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idhbar said:
Can you develop apps like internet pass through of sense ?
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You can use connectify for that
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Had a bug in the earlier version I posted. I thought that only pitch would be enough so the speaker kept turning on at incorrect moments. I've fixed that I'll post an update tonight.
As for the sense clock, sorry. I'm not that good at theming nor do I have enough patience for something like that! Henry would be a better person to ask. You can also check out UCCW clock widget which has sense clock like themes.
For internet passthrough, you can checkout this thing called "Reverse Tethering". I haven't used it personally but it should work.

Fixed the issue with the roll and also added flip for silence working. Updated apk in the OP. I've tested it very briefly cause I'm about to head off to sleep. Let me know if you find some issues.

Updated with a few bug fixes and hopefully should now support other devices because I've changed the API now. Check the changelog.

Added Pick up to Answer. Updated OP.

'senseable speaker control'
or
'non-sense speaker control'
Just a couple of things that popped in my head

Is this still in development? I really liked this idea and would pay a full app to do the "nifity tricks" (my suggested app name )
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Yes, of course. I have a pretty major exam tomorrow so after that I would be getting back to development. Any features in particular you would like to see?
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AceRoom said:
Yes, of course. I have a pretty major exam tomorrow so after that I would be getting back to development. Any features in particular you would like to see?
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Hey AceRoom, great work on the sense app hey. Features I know I definitely miss on CM7 and CM9 roms are the jus the three you mentioned earlier on - quiet ring on pickup - flip for speaker and pocket mode. The rest are not so important but if you could get those working on any cm7 or CM9 rom - that would totally rock!
Looking forward to more of your work
Cheers

thanks a lot, i was searching all over for these features.
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since this is an application, why dont you add it to the play store?

Amazing! I think it works better than the actual sense version

manoruz said:
Hey AceRoom, great work on the sense app hey. Features I know I definitely miss on CM7 and CM9 roms are the jus the three you mentioned earlier on - quiet ring on pickup - flip for speaker and pocket mode. The rest are not so important but if you could get those working on any cm7 or CM9 rom - that would totally rock!
Looking forward to more of your work
Cheers
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I think those two features are already working well from the few guys I gave it to. They were mostly running stock ROMs (Samsung and LG phones).
MidhunCN said:
since this is an application, why dont you add it to the play store?
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I thought I'll do that once I confirm that the basic features are working on all the devices I have access to.
vbhtt said:
Amazing! I think it works better than the actual sense version
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Thanks! Appreciate that!
I'm noticing some bugs with the pickup to answer. Is it working completely well for anyone?

This app makes me feel like a Jedi, just sayin'.
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"You can overclock as much as you want, your phone will always seem too slow."

AceRoom said:
I'm noticing some bugs with the pickup to answer. Is it working completely well for anyone?
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Actually, no. It picks up fine but the caller can't hear me. So I've just turned it off till you you fix it.

For some reason, it mutes the phone when it does that. So I tried explicity unmuting the phone and it still doesn't work. You can unmute it manually but it kind of defeats the purpose anyhow!
It's actually a hack I found somewhere since Android stopped supporting the call answer API after 2.3 (But had it in 2.2 and earlier).
The next thing I'm planning on adding is a speaker volume and normal volume (Because I find that I have to increase the volume when I flip for speaker usually).
I've tested it on the WFS only on CM9. What ROMs are the rest of you guys using?

[Q&A][FAQ][Support][Discussion] CSROM and Graviton

CSROM & Graviton Support and Discussion Thread
This thread was created in response to a new xda initiative to reduce non-development related posts on development threads.
An added benefit of a thread here is that users with under 10 posts can get some help (and won't have to PM me).
I will maintain just one thread (hopefully this works) for both ROMs and all carriers to help preserve my sanity.
Please be sure to specify which ROM you are using and the carrier.
Below are some examples of common types of posts and where they belong
Q&A and FAQ Thread:
"What kernel gives the best battery life with this ROM?"
"Is Nova launcher compatible with this ROM?"
"The battery life for this ROM is off the chizarts!"
"The battery life for this ROM is total crap!"
"I just flashed this ROM and my GPS doesn't work. :crying:"
Development Thread:
"The new cellular data toggle isn't working (confirmed by another user)?"
"I keep getting FC's from SystemUI. Any thoughts?"
"I selected the green battery icons in Aroma but it installed the blues ones (I checked twice)."
"I just flashed this ROM and it bricked my device! "
"The battery life for this ROM is off the chizarts!
(see attached screenshots from Better Battery Stats)."
"The battery life for this ROM is total crap!
(see attached screenshots from Better Battery Stats)."
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There are exceptions to the examples above. If you are using a port and your GPS doesn't work I need to know that.
It will probably take some time for threads like this to evolve, so I am definitely open to feedback.
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Frequently Asked Questions
Q: How can I change the lockscreen wallpaper to a pic in my gallery?
A: You must use the Samsung gallery.
Q: Why won't the circle widget work with the TW launcher?
A: The circle widget currently only works with the RAZR M launcher.
Q: The AOSP lockscreen keeps freezing. What's up with that?
A: All lockscreen options must be unchecked when using the AOSP lockscreen.
Q: Why does my phone keep freezing up when I use Light Flow?
A: Light Flow seems to be incompatible with the AOSP lockscreen. I don't recommend using the two together.
Q: Why doesn't Wifi Direct work?
A: I don't know.
Q: Where can I find all the stock apps you removed?
A: The DR App Machine.
Q: My GPS isn't working. Any suggestions?
A: Link1, Link2, Link3, Link4, Link5, Link6.
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Re: [Q&A][FAQ] CSROM and Graviton
Im sure it must suck trying to keep up with 20 different threads.
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Hey guys,
ATT CSROM v1.4 GS3 - Love the ROM so far, once I got a lot of my apps and data restored and a few issues with that worked out.
Kind of a newb to customs roms. This is the first one I have put on my GS3.
As far as I can tell I am using the CS launcher and would like to the change the wallpaper on my lock screen. However when I bring up the selection screen it only give me the option to use the stock wallpapers.
Can I just move an image to the stock location and have it appear? Or is there another option?

gcarterny said:
Im sure it must suck trying to keep up with 20 different threads.
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Yeah, it get's tough sometimes. That is why guys like you and the other people that test for me are a huge help. You guys make my life a lot easier by helping out on the threads.
It won't be long before I stop supporting the Atrix. I just don't have the time and I don't use the device anymore.
There is also a pretty good chance I will close up shop for my Sprint and T-Mobile ports for this device. There is not much interest for my ROMs in either forum. Probably not a bad thing since that will lighten my workload.
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I am wondering if this thread would be better in the general section. That way it can be Q&A, FAQ, and general discussion. But, like I said in the OP, this is a new concept to we will have to see how it evolves.

Judman said:
Hey guys,
ATT CSROM v1.4 GS3
Kind of a newb to customs roms. This is the first one I have put on my GS3.
As far as I can tell I am using the CS launcher and would like to the change the wallpaper on my lock screen. However when I bring up the selection screen it only give me the option to use the stock wallpapers.
Can I just move an image to the stock location and have it appear? Or is there another option?
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If you want to use anything other than a stock wallpaper for the lockscreen you need to have the Samsung gallery installed. The AOSP gallery is not compatible with the lockscreen for pics, or other images on your device.

upndwn4par said:
If you want to use anything other than a stock wallpaper for the lockscreen you need to have the Samsung gallery installed. The AOSP gallery is not compatible with the lockscreen for pics, or other images on your device.
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Thanks for the answer!
Can more than one galleries coexists? If so, do I just select another one gallery in the Aroma installer and deselect all other options?
Im still kinda fuzzy on the modify/upgrade process within the installer.

Re: [Q&A][FAQ] CSROM and Graviton
Yes they can Co exist. I can't remember how many there are in aroma but you can download as many as you want. I have three not including quickpic
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Just flashed and very much enjoy it. It has the best of both extremes. Thanks for the hard work. Will report after a few battery cycles.
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rawdaddymagraden said:
Just flashed and very much enjoy it. It has the best of both extremes. Thanks for the hard work. Will report after a few battery cycles.
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Welcome aboard!
Which Rom did you flash?

upndwn4par said:
Welcome aboard!
Which Rom did you flash?
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I flashed cs rom and am loving it still battery is doing well.... no hiccups thus far
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It's a great ROM and I used it as a base to mess with flashing different things and learning stuff. Dev and testers always help.
No matter how many others I try I come back haha

hednik said:
It's a great ROM and I used it as a base to mess with flashing different things and learning stuff. Dev and testers always help.
No matter how many others I try I come back haha
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Yeah I'm learning to port and build from source at the moment so this will stay as my daily driver for sure.
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Just a mention,
I installed Light Flow Lite yesterday and toyed around with it. Long story short it broke the AOSP lock screen. By broke I mean any time I would put my phone into sleep then wake it up and interact with any function of the lock screen it would become unresponsive and reboot (fast reboot I think).
I was finally able to get out of it by bringing the notification window down and getting into settings. Disabled the lock screen and the device was fine. Uninstalled Light Flow and wiped the data with TB, but the lock screen is still broken. Haven't tried the touchwiz lock screen for fear of it being broken too.
Aside from that the batt life is amazing and everything works wonderfully. Even got another gallery installed via Aroma and can change the lock screen wallpaper (not that im using a lock screen right now).

Judman
Based on what I have read on this apps web site it wasn't meant for an aosp rom. That sounds like a matter of app not being compatible with the rom so I would say not the roms fault.
Glad you were able to get things back to normal.
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Judman said:
Just a mention,
I installed Light Flow Lite yesterday and toyed around with it. Long story short it broke the AOSP lock screen. By broke I mean any time I would put my phone into sleep then wake it up and interact with any function of the lock screen it would become unresponsive and reboot (fast reboot I think).
I was finally able to get out of it by bringing the notification window down and getting into settings. Disabled the lock screen and the device was fine. Uninstalled Light Flow and wiped the data with TB, but the lock screen is still broken. Haven't tried the touchwiz lock screen for fear of it being broken too.
Aside from that the batt life is amazing and everything works wonderfully. Even got another gallery installed via Aroma and can change the lock screen wallpaper (not that im using a lock screen right now).
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You are the second or third user that had this happen. I will add a warning to the OP.
If I remember correctly, Light Flow works fine with the stock lockscreen. But you might want to wait until someone that actually uses it chimes in.

oldbbman said:
Judman
Based on what I have read on this apps web site it wasn't meant for an aosp rom. That sounds like a matter of app not being compatible with the rom so I would say not the roms fault.
Glad you were able to get things back to normal.
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upndwn4par said:
You are the second or third user that had this happen. I will add a warning to the OP.
If I remember correctly, Light Flow works fine with the stock lockscreen. But you might want to wait until someone that actually uses it chimes in.
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Thanks, I couldnt really find anything else that mentioned having that kind of trouble, but it definitely makes sense. And I wasnt blaming it on the ROM, just saying it was a side effect.
Maybe the mention will keep someone else from breaking their lock screen.
Again, thanks for the great rom!!

Judman said:
Thanks, I couldnt really find anything else that mentioned having that kind of trouble, but it definitely makes sense. And I wasnt blaming it on the ROM, just saying it was a side effect.
Maybe the mention will keep someone else from breaking their lock screen.
Again, thanks for the great rom!!
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Try light manager app in my experience it is more aosp friendly
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[Q] Google Edition 4.3 (09/07/2013) Question

Being that I'm a noob (<10 posts), I can't post this in the actual ROM thread (mods, please move if you deem it appropriate).
I wanted to ask if there was a way in Google Edition 4.3 to change the clock settings to *NOT* display the hour in bold font?
Is that functionality available and I'm missing it in the settings?
Thanks yeahmann for putting that together and to the entire XDA community for all the hard work!.

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piotreks4 said:
Being that I'm a noob (<10 posts), I can't post this in the actual ROM thread (mods, please move if you deem it appropriate).
I wanted to ask if there was a way in Google Edition 4.3 to change the clock settings to *NOT* display the hour in bold font?
Is that functionality available and I'm missing it in the settings?
Thanks yeahmann for putting that together and to the entire XDA community for all the hard work!.
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As far as I know you can't change the look and feel of the widget in 4.3, however you can always install Cyanogenmod cLock widget where you can customize it. Hope this helps.
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a103 said:
As far as I know you can't change the look and feel of the widget in 4.3, however you can always install Cyanogenmod cLock widget where you can customize it. Hope this helps.
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It does help -- thank you.
I actually ended up flashing CM-10.2 because of the availability of better config options and am so far loving it.
Thanks again and best wishes!
P :good:

piotreks4 said:
It does help -- thank you.
I actually ended up flashing CM-10.2 because of the availability of better config options and am so far loving it.
Thanks again and best wishes!
P :good:
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Whenever you get a chance can you please let me know how's CM 10.2 working for you so far? I mean can that be used as a daily driver with major things (GPS, Bluetooth, NFL, camera etc) working without any issues. If so please let me know which nightly did you flash.
Thanks.
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a103 said:
Whenever you get a chance can you please let me know how's CM 10.2 working for you so far? I mean can that be used as a daily driver with major things (GPS, Bluetooth, NFL, camera etc) working without any issues. If so please let me know which nightly did you flash
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So far, CM 10.2 is rock-solid. I flashed The Sept 5 Nightly. Reason being - Friday gives me 2 days if something doesn't work.
I tried AOKP (too many options for me -- never thought I'd say that) and both Virgin and 'stock' GE (4.3) ROMs (a bit too stock for me).
I have so far set up email (GMail and Work using K-9 + Invitation Processor) and customized some options/appearance (cLock is da-shizznit). The camera works perfectly. I have not set up Bluetooth and not used GPS, yet, but will try both tomorrow on my way to/from work. One thing that I still need to figure out is the file-system layout inside Android (i.e. /storage/0 vs. /storage/legacy, etc...) as I'm apparently using 7.4GB out of 9.6GB available. This is probably because the stock T-Mo version left most of its guts behind and/or I incorrectly cleaned the device after having flashed all the ROMs.
One thing that I've noticed (with all the ROMs, except stock T-Mo) was that when you press the power button to lock/shut-off the screen, it ends up shutting off like an old-school TV. With the stock version, it would go dark seamlessly.
Regardless, I really enjoy having this phone now that I flashed CM on it. The fact that they provide an 'update-CM' option directly inside the settings is awesome in its own right. I'll update this thread once I give GPS and BT a run (can't promise I'll run TV apps on it, though -- that's not my cup-o-tea).
Best!

if you find certain things to be a bit buggy on CM, give Virgin Rom another try. the hardware elements of the phone work flawlessly. in an ideal world, someone would use Virgin Rom as a base and "Cyanogenize" it so that more things were customizable, such as Quick Setting toggles. CM is great, but the nightlies don't have the stability that the GE Roms have, obviously.

Thanks for your inputs...I guess back up of your old Roms may be eating up your internal space (if you have backed them up )...the old tv animation is the crt animation which Google introduced in ICS 4.0

a103 said:
Thanks for your inputs...I guess back up of your old Roms may be eating up your internal space (if you have backed them up )...the old tv animation is the crt animation which Google introduced in ICS 4.0
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Aaah! Good to know (about the TV animation).
I haven't backed up my old ROMs, but I'll definitely investigate space usage once I find some time.
Tested GPS and BT this morning: played a few songs over the car radio streaming over BT - awesome.
GPS is working good, too. I get a lock within 10 seconds of starting any app requiring GPS.
Thanks to all!

piotreks4 said:
Aaah! Good to know (about the TV animation).
I haven't backed up my old ROMs, but I'll definitely investigate space usage once I find some time.
Tested GPS and BT this morning: played a few songs over the car radio streaming over BT - awesome.
GPS is working good, too. I get a lock within 10 seconds of starting any app requiring GPS.
Thanks to all!
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Even I flashed the RC2 last night. Using it for a few hours only, but it's rock solid as you mentioned.
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[Q] missing "users" option/feature

Hi Guys,
Of course the system version is 4.3 and the device is the great note 10.1 2014
Where for good sake i can find the users option to create additional account for instance for child or guests
Thanks in advance for the help - i assume it will help other as well

samsung removes this feature for some reason.

So there is no workaround or other app?
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madsquabbles said:
samsung removes this feature for some reason.
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civato reenabled it in his galaxy note 8 rom. i can't say for sure but if someone who understood that stuff better than me got a hold of his source they could figure out how to implement it once a custom recovery is made.

Application whihc replace this important feature
Is there an app that provides this functionality?
It is so importnat for sure for famility tablet use....

Anyone?

I would love an answer on this post as well reference an alternate app or any thoughts on if Samsung will alow this ever. If not I may have to return and go with the new Nexus 10 2

I don't think this can be implemented by a simple app, maybe a custom rom but i'd imagine that it'd be complicated. You could also install an AOSP ROM that would make it similar to the nexus 10 with that feature but you might lose all of the samsung add ins including the s pen. I don't know if Samsung will change its mind in the future but I wouldn't expect it.

This was a huge disappointment indeed. A key feature of new Android left out without a forewarning. Is there any good reason for this?

Probably eats up too much space.. this touchwiz experience is heavy on the device.
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redstar299 said:
Probably eats up too much space.. this touchwiz experience is heavy on the device.
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IMHO - missing this feature should be considered as any HW feature which this device come with or without....
I wonder if Samsung people are monitoriign the forum inputs?
You know.. i tried to get the formal support answer in regards and they jsut answered that the case opened... nothing for several days...
Its mine first Android and Samsung device - Disappointing... :crying:

[Q] S Pen features when rooted

Hi guys,
Sorry if this question has been asked and answered before. Search brought up no answers for me.
l have a note 10.1 2014 WIFI only. l haven't rooted it yet though I am familiar with rooting from other devices.
Now, I absolutely hate touchwizz and would love to flash a stock android rom onto my tablet, however l am worried that removing touchwizz will disable any s pen features.
Could somebody please confirm if I will be able to use s pen with a custom rom or not? I've looked through a fair few threads and cannot find an answer.
thanks in advance.

JBLEAKLEY93 said:
Hi guys,
Sorry if this question has been asked and answered before. Search brought up no answers for me.
l have a note 10.1 2014 WIFI only. l haven't rooted it yet though I am familiar with rooting from other devices.
Now, I absolutely hate touchwizz and would love to flash a stock android rom onto my tablet, however l am worried that removing touchwizz will disable any s pen features.
Could somebody please confirm if I will be able to use s pen with a custom rom or not? I've looked through a fair few threads and cannot find an answer.
thanks in advance.
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What model of note do you have and what custom rom you want to flash??

buhohitr said:
What model of note do you have and what custom rom you want to flash??
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Its the wifi only version (exynos chip?) anyhow i've rooted and installed twrp recovery now and backed up.
as for the rom, I'm looking for a complete stock android experience with S Pen features, looking through the rom section here I think I'll be going down the route of a cm11 based rom

Spen is not working with cm11. If you want spen, best bet is stick to TW rom.

buhohitr said:
Spen is not working with cm11. If you want spen, best bet is stick to TW rom.
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I'm running Hyperdrive Rom with Nova launcher and all functionality with the spen is working fine. You might not like touchwiz on the stock Rom but on this Rom it flies.

Definition - Feature: a distinctive attribute or aspect of something.
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DISCLAIMER: SPen feature(intrinsic functions)are only to the tip being precisely detected on the screen and the side button detection
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This clarified lets answer the question; because this gimmicks\features are on TouchWiz and not on the SPen, if you take Touch-wiz out of the equation you will lose those functions but not necessarily the precise pen and the side button detection(which rely on the drivers been implemented correctly on the ROM and not on touchwiz itself).
Rooting the device doesn't affect which system you are running, only what privilege you have in it; so, Still TouchWiz=Gimmicks exist.
Now, if there are things you don't like about TouchWiz there are many ROMs based on it that try to fix many problems inherent to the system and thus you would still have TouchWiz features. On the other hand, if you want to install something like CyanogenMod, AOPK or OmniRom, you will trade Touchwiz gimmicks for those implemented on the ROM you chose(Different Rom, different gimmicks).
I would tell you to investigate which are the gimmicks you want before jumping ROMs. Read the post of every rom you would like to install before doing so.
Personally I couldn't care less for multiwindow or doubletap note gestures if the system stutters randomly and its dumbed down Samsung-style. Even with the great things guys here have achieved with Touchwiz framework(You are really doing great things guys :highfive i still feel like i am in an eternal battle using and controlling it; trying not to launch something i really didn't intended to, or praying for the system to do what i want when I want it to; it is not worth it for me. Touchwiz makes me feel awe but never lets me feel at home and comfortable with the environment. I prefer to install CM and feel the tablet like a nexus device with a nice Wacom pen than a colorfull collage of Touchwiz features. Again, this is my personal opinion.
IMPORTANT NOTE: SPen functioning(READ DISCLAIMER) is almost ready for the new cm ROMs for the wifi version. At this moment there are various cm bases ROMs with the SPen functioning only on landscape mode so if you use the SPen thoroughly for notes, drawings and stuff I recommend waiting a little bit more before making the jump, if you decided to go that way.

Greetings everyone, if possible I'd like to add one more question to this scenario.
I understand from the above that we lose the features from Touchwizz like the floating menu, however what about the general S-Pen functionality, like the 1024 levels of sensitivity?
In particular, I'd like to know if installing CM11 and Sketchbook and use it as efficiently as in a stock environment.
Thanks in advance for any replies.

Dark_Az_ said:
Greetings everyone, if possible I'd like to add one more question to this scenario.
I understand from the above that we lose the features from Touchwizz like the floating menu, however what about the general S-Pen functionality, like the 1024 levels of sensitivity?
In particular, I'd like to know if installing CM11 and Sketchbook and use it as efficiently as in a stock environment.
Thanks in advance for any replies.
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It depends. If the ROM you want to install has the drivers and are correctly implemented(As in no Bugs), NO, you wont loose core functionality of the pen; Pen detection on the screen with its sensitivity, pen button detection, pen eraser and hover(and any combinations of those 4) are all driver based so they should all work on a ROM that implemented them.
As long as the not-touchwiz-based rom says that the pen works it means that those core functionality are indeed working, and if they dont, it is a bug.
The other aspect would be an outdated driver but i am sure the devs get what we already had on touchwiz and only port it or something, so i don't think we should worry about it.
Other aspect is that some apps like papyrus give you the option to use the pen's button as tool changer, item selector, and other stuff that could not be used on touchwiz because those gestures were taken by the system to open apps or action memo; so in a way, using CM gives you even better experience for 3rd party apps.
TL; DR If SPen drivers are in place you would have the same quality than on touchwiz for SPen Wacom core functionalities.