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i've heard some people can OC their GIO to 921MHz stable, but on my gio it can't even get stable on 883Mhz. on 864MHz is somewhat stable but i still get hung or FC randomly, im super stable at 844MHz.
Why does my phone can't be OC like them other guys?
Not all devices are made exactly the same. Processors can behave differently as do the batteries and other hardware.
bogdanwp said:
Not all devices are made exactly the same. Processors can behave differently as do the batteries and other hardware.
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is there nothing i can do? i've tried many ROMS, on some i can get to 921 for a few seconds, but still the same. will changing kernel help?
Why not stop overclocking ? Just find a very fast rom and then you can save the overclocking , hence the instability and hotness and draining battery. That way you will have longer life on your Gio.
L.E. : just change the minimum frequency to 245 and refrain from using roms that are heavy right now , like CM 10.1 , try anything based on gingerbread like Adrenaline or Enhanced 2.3.6 or DebianDroid for example , or AOSP ICS wich i find very fast.
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Why not stop overclocking ? Just find a very fast rom and then you can save the overclocking , hence the instability and hotness and draining battery. That way you will have longer life on your Gio.
L.E. : just change the minimum frequency to 245 and refrain from using roms that are heavy right now , like CM 10.1 , try anything based on gingerbread like Adrenaline or Enhanced 2.3.6 or DebianDroid for example , or AOSP ICS wich i find very fast.
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well currently im using AOKP milestone 6 CM9 based, i use conservative governor 245-844MHz, installed adrenaline engine 4.4, and pim my rom and set my OOM and LMK to medium settings. battery is drained only when im using data or playing games obviously. actually this ROM is superb for me performance wise, its just, i feel like i can squeeze a bit more of it for playing games you know. its like i see this slight lagging and i thought if only i could use a little more CPU power, the lag will be gone
Even you can overclock a 1st gen AMD Duron to 2Ghz with liquid nitrogen, it just doesn't make sense doing it
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i can oc my cpu to 960mhz but i think it makes no sense... you don't feel the extra speed in normal use only in benchmarks... my cpu is set to 480mhz because it's enough for every app i am using (facebook, whatsapp, xda, browser and so on).
Due to some requests via PM´s I decided to make my kernel finally public, but remember:
This kernel is a personal kernel for my private use, so it´s only containing the tweaks I´m also really using
It´s the older 2.6.35 kernel basing on latest 2.6.35 sources from Arco, so only use it with Arcos CM9 RC2 or RC3 or a custom ROM with 2.6.35 kernel
This kernel is not filled with a lot of governors and schedulers, but only the ones I´m also personally using.
I have made this kernel because non of the custom kernels worked stable for me in the past, even at stock voltages. With this kernel I´m able to run at extreme Undervolting rock solid.
So this kernel was created with stability and battery life in mind. Each modification was tested separately, so everytime I added a tweak or a new feature, I tested the new kernel for a couple of days before adding the next one.
So why I decided to tweak this older kernel rather than going with 3.x kernel?
- Because this kernel is giving me a much better battery life than the 3.x kernel, is running rock solid and also because I don´t really need the new features added into 3.x kernel.
So what it has included:
- UV and OC options
- lowered WiFi voltage
- lowered lcd voltage
- slightly lowered standby / deepsleep voltage
- Battery life extender
- Fixed 100% battery notification after charger unplug
- 377MB RAM
- NO-OP scheduler as default scheduler
- Lulzactive governor as default governor
- tweaked Lulzactive for battery life and smoothness
- added 518, 633 and 902 MHz (new)
- screen off frequency set to 518 MHz max.(new)
- some more voltage tweaks
- no other compilation tweaks just to make the list longer
With this kernel and a new battery my SGW can last up to 7 days in standby. This is without WiFi and Mobile Data. With the stock kernel I got 3-5 days. It´s also working absolutely stable and smooth for me without any issues.
So if you run into some issues that are/were also discussed i the CM9 Bug report thread, don´t blame me for them.
other suggestions:
- enable KSM
- enable 16bit Dithering
- disable CPU rendering
- greenify your apps
If you follow these suggestions, your ROM should run absolutely smooth without the need for other tweaks.
To use Battery Life eXtender:
Use RootExplorer and go to: '/sys/class/misc/batterylifeextender'. Change the value in 'charging_limit' for example to 90 (default 100). This will set a limit for the capacity to which the battery will be charged. So in this example the battery will be charged to 90%.
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After flashing the kernel whipe your cache and dalvik cache and fix permissions.
Just as a note. Should you encounter the white screen bug in some apps, this is because you whiped the cache in CWM Recovery after flashing the kernel. To fix this go into settings -> apps and delete data and cache of those specific apps.
Credits are going to:
- Arco (for his great work and sources)
- educk (for helping me doing the first steps)
- Christopher83 (for his great commits)
- ivendor (for his tweaks)
- Ezekeel (for Battery Life eXtender)
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- added frequencies
- incrased RAM
- lowered screen off frequency in Lulzactive
- some voltage finetunning
CM_9-2.6.35-7up-kernel.zip
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Download.
XDA:DevDB Information
[Kernel] [CM9 - RC2 & RC3] honeyx 7up 2.6.35 kernel [for better battery life], a Kernel for the Samsung Galaxy W I8150
Contributors
honeyx, http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4410351
Kernel Special Features:
Version Information
Status: No Longer Updated
Created 2013-09-24
Last Updated 2013-09-24
First, thanks :good:
Edit: can i have your permission to use this kernel on my ROM?
ipromeh said:
First, thanks :good:
Edit: can i have your permission to use this kernel on my ROM?
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Sure No problem mate.
honeyx said:
Sure No problem mate.
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nicely done
I have tested this before with rc2 and I have to say battery life was very significantly longer compared to hurtsky 2.5 + QAsR v2.3. However, the white screen issue persisted in 2 of the apps I used the most, namely boat browser and Gmail so I have opted out again. But if you guys don't care about white screen, do give this kernel a try
Yeah, kernel 2.6 is always better battery life... i recomended it
- screen off frequency set to 768 MHz
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What mean of that ?
is we get trun off the screen it auto lock on 768Mhz ? it's not deepsleep any way CMIIW
hepi_hape said:
Yeah, kernel 2.6 is always better battery life... i recomended it
What mean of that ?
is we get trun off the screen it auto lock on 768Mhz ? it's not deepsleep any way CMIIW
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This is the max frequency the clock might rise to if the screen is off but for example an app or a service awakes the phone from deepsleep. So it will not drain so much the battery if the phone gets awake for some reason and if you undervolt your cpu, you can reduce the consumption for such a case even more.
This is preset in the Lulzactive governor, which Christopher83 fixed to make this working, so it´s only related to this governor, which is also my default governor.
So when in screenoff the phone only maximum can use CPU clock at 768Mhz
Yeah i get it. .thx for explain it
I think arco might be able to help you fix the white screen. Long back skull kernel experienced the same and acro helped him to fix it.
coolbuy said:
I think arco might be able to help you fix the white screen. Long back skull kernel experienced the same and acro helped him to fix it.
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Uhm, well I´m not sure this is exactly the same because Keff (Woohooo..) is modding the 3.x kernel for CM10. But thanks for the suggestion. I will aks Keff first to not to bother Arco in the first place. It will be for sure interesting what caused it for him.
Just to clarify some things about the white screen bug. The one I described in my first post is not the real white screen bug, but only what happens to some apps after whiping the cache in CWM Recovery. This can easily be fixed like described above and will not bother you anymore.
The real white screen bug came all of the sudden (without whiping anything before). So for example you opened facebook, everything was fine, but a few minutes later by relaunching facebook you got a white screen. The procedure to get rid of this was the same as I already mentioned but with the difference it happened again after a while.
So well I have had this issue with facebook too in the past, but it´s gone and now even not happening after whiping the cache in CWM Recovery. It´s not gone because I updated the rom (still using RC2), but because facebook updated their app.
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I already found what you was talking about. It´s called the white noise issue where you get a white screen by turning the screen on, so it´s not the same.
And how is games performance ?
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And how is games performance ?
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Mind you: This is battery saving rom. It is meant to have low game performance. It MUST have a lower gaming performance than those v3.0 kernels. If you want gaming, this is not for you.
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Mind you: This is battery saving rom. It is meant to have low game performance. It MUST have a lower gaming performance than those v3.0 kernels. If you want gaming, this is not for you.
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Yes, this is a battery saving kernel, but why should it have low gaming performance? Just because it´s optimized for low consumption in standby and because you can undervolt it? It´s like you were comparing an older Pentium4 against an Intel Atom CPU and saying the Atom must be faster because its newer. Or by comparing a Atom against a 286 CPU and saying the 286 will be faster than the Atom because the Atom is more battery friendly.
Sure, it´s not optimized to get the highest scores in benchmarks, but the games I´m playing once in a while are running totally smooth.
The newer releases of CM9 might be of course faster in games, but not just because of the 3.x kernel, but also because Arcos ocessionaly is updating the GPU drivers.
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Yes, this is a battery saving kernel, but why should it have low gaming performance? Just because it´s optimized for low consumption in standby and because you can undervolt it? It´s like you were comparing an older Pentium4 against an Intel Atom CPU and saying the Atom must be faster because its newer. Or by comparing a Atom against a 286 CPU and saying the 286 will be faster than the Atom because the Atom is more battery friendly.
Sure, it´s not optimized to get the highest scores in benchmarks, but the games I´m playing once in a while are running totally smooth.
The newer releases of CM9 might be of course faster in games, but not just because of the 3.x kernel, but also because Arcos ocessionaly is updating the GPU drivers.
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Thank you for correcting my ignorance. :laugh: Maybe I'll give the kernel a try and tell more about that
Honeyx, I hope you continue to develop and share this kernel in the future because I decided to start everything over from scratch because of your work here. I love this kernel. I get so much better battery life now. If you would ever consider adding Lionheart in the future, I would be very grateful. Is there any way to add Row or does it require kernel 3? Thanks again!
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Yes, this is a battery saving kernel, but why should it have low gaming performance? Just because it´s optimized for low consumption in standby and because you can undervolt it? It´s like you were comparing an older Pentium4 against an Intel Atom CPU and saying the Atom must be faster because its newer. Or by comparing a Atom against a 286 CPU and saying the 286 will be faster than the Atom because the Atom is more battery friendly.
Sure, it´s not optimized to get the highest scores in benchmarks, but the games I´m playing once in a while are running totally smooth.
The newer releases of CM9 might be of course faster in games, but not just because of the 3.x kernel, but also because Arcos ocessionaly is updating the GPU drivers.
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Not for hard gaming.....thats sure....if you want battery play with puzzlebubbles
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tebor8 said:
Honeyx, I hope you continue to develop and share this kernel in the future because I decided to start everything over from scratch because of your work here. I love this kernel. I get so much better battery life now. If you would ever consider adding Lionheart in the future, I would be very grateful. Is there any way to add Row or does it require kernel 3? Thanks again!
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I may add some tweaks in the future, but this may take a while till I have some spare time to test them. About adding other governors...well I tested a lot of them but finally decided to use Lulzactive because it was the most battery friendly governor in the one hand and because there is also the Lulzactive app you can use to tweak it to your needs. So for example tweak it that way it behaves like for example Lionheart. I also tested the ROW scheduler but it wasn´t as stable as I presupposed to be. So the best compromise between stability and performance was to use the noop scheduler. It´s nearly as fast as the row but way more stable.
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Not for hard gaming.....thats sure....if you want battery play with puzzlebubbles
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LoL. I´m quite sure with extreme undervolting you can still save some battery juice even while playing action games on this device. Beside this it´s not the CPU or GPU that consumes most, but the display and its backlight LED´s.
it is for battery saving but for me its not good to play with games cuz playing for like 40-60 minutes consume 60% battery ? lol
thats quite alot and might burnt up my battery life.
Dwama said:
it is for battery saving but for me its not good to play with games cuz playing for like 40-60 minutes consume 60% battery ? lol
thats quite alot and might burnt up my battery life.
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So did you thought it will consume just as much as being in deepsleep????????? The kernel is tweaked to consume less in deepsleep and in daily use but not to consume less in games. Beside this it´s not the CPU nor the GPU that consumes most, but the backlight LEDs in your screen. So even by undervolting and underclocking it will still drain a lot if playing games.
There is no and will not be a magical Kernel that is using witchcraft to reduce the consumption of the LEDs, exept someone compiles you a kernel which turns out the LEDs completely, if you can with a complete dark screen.
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So did you thought it will consume just as much as being in deepsleep????????? The kernel is tweaked to consume less in deepsleep and in daily use but not to consume less in games. Beside this it´s not the CPU nor the GPU that consumes most, but the backlight LEDs in your screen. So even by undervolting and underclocking it will still drain a lot if playing games.
There is no and will not be a magical Kernel that is using witchcraft to reduce the consumption of the LEDs, exept someone compiles you a kernel which turns out the LEDs completely, if you can with a complete dark screen.
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Im not expecting anything from ur kernel, im glad that u shared ur kernel taht could last longer than arco's stock kernel.
I was just giving up my comments about ur kernel that i have used for 2 months , Not complaining and whining lol.
I am sorry and thanks for sharing ur kernel , keep it up. :fingers-crossed:
I have been using Omega Rom from version 8 up to version 18, then switched to ProBam, then Pacman, and now I'm back on Omega 19, giving the "official" 4.3 a shot.
I have tried many many settings and kernels to get this game run without a lag.
So far, I have seen no lag when using performance governor while playing for a few minutes (no overclocking the CPU or GPU) that was it...
Every other setup gives lag, more or less. The second best setup would be pegasusq governor, not much changes when overclocking CPU or GPU, or both.
Using a stock kernel is also not bad, but lags every now and then. (not dependant on Rom)
But I want to get the sound settings from trickster mod for example, so I feel like I need a custom kernel with my Rom of choice.
So, does anyone have a good setup that matches performance governor, but does not stick permanently to maximum CPU load?
I don't care about battery life, so I need a good performing setup.
(Just on a side note: when people say "there is no lag at all when scrolling through my homescreens" then I can only think that this should be normal with ANY setup. And I never had any lag while scrolling through my homescreens, except while I was using my HTC Hero...)
I would very much appreciate if someone with the same goal could help me out, or someone knows the default settings of the stock kernel...
Or is this whole idea just utopic, because the game is badly coded?
What is the best performance settings? To save battery
Also i want a good tweak that save my battery
I'm on cm11
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Showman2020 said:
What is the best performance settings? To save battery
Also i want a good tweak that save my battery
I'm on cm11
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governor :- "conservative" as will let you at least use the phone rather than POWER SAVING governor (DEAD SLOW) and best suited with I/O scheduler :- SIO
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You know... CPU governor will scale the frequency based on the apps' activities... Rather than improving performance in the surface by modifying CPU governor, I suggest installing Greenify and look for heavy apps that consume much battery and uninstall them.
Look for a lighter app that doesn't burn your internet data or battery.
Conservative governor will give you choppy performance. I thought the whole reason of installing CM11 was to get rid of lags... On the other hand, interactive governor will give you lag-free performance. Battery usage is different for everybody, depending on the apps you use.
I installed cyanagomode 13, the latest but the system takes 300 mb. Total ram is 600 mb so there is not much left.
other roms , for example 4.4 4.2, how are they?
i want to use twitter snapchat whatsapp without any freeze and also camera.
Have you tried cm11 by ace2nutzer or vanirkk by ChronoMonochrome? It's currently the best ROM in term of performance.
If you want the latest with minimal bugs, go for cm11.
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shaqman89 said:
Have you tried cm11 by ace2nutzer or vanirkk by ChronoMonochrome? It's currently the best ROM in term of performance.
If you want the latest with minimal bugs, go for cm11.
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Yes i tried, not so much bigger performance then cm13. ALso gapss has old apps. I think you use it.How many apps are working in background, what apps do you use? Because i only installed snapchat and when i run it, it lags.
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Yes i tried, not so much bigger performance then cm13. ALso gapss has old apps. I think you use it.How many apps are working in background, what apps do you use? Because i only installed snapchat and when i run it, it lags.
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Well, if you aren't multitasking much, or loading huge apps, cm11 and cm13 won't give that much of a difference in the current state. But in my case, I multitask a lot, so using cm11 gives a huge difference.
I don't use snapchat, but I have at least 110 apps installed, and have no issues with lags, at least not most of the time, with some exceptions of heavy apps like maps.
Try managing resources using greenify and amplify, it really helps to keep the apps installed under control.
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Well, if you aren't multitasking much, or loading huge apps, cm11 and cm13 won't give that much of a difference in the current state. But in my case, I multitask a lot, so using cm11 gives a huge difference.
I don't use snapchat, but I have at least 110 apps installed, and have no issues with lags, at least not most of the time, with some exceptions of heavy apps like maps.
Try managing resources using greenify and amplify, it really helps to keep the apps installed under control.
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SO you have 32 gb sd card ?
greenify, amplify, what else do you suggest? DO you swap between modes also
Powersave:
CPU: 200/600Mhz
GPU: 300Mhz static
Balanced (default):
CPU: 200/800Mhz
GPU: 300/400Mhz
Performance:
CPU: 200/1000Mhz
GPU: 300/500Mhz
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SO you have 32 gb sd card ?
greenify, amplify, what else do you suggest? DO you swap between modes also
Powersave:
CPU: 200/600Mhz
GPU: 300Mhz static
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CPU: 200/800Mhz
GPU: 300/400Mhz
Performance:
CPU: 200/1000Mhz
GPU: 300/500Mhz
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Yes, I do. I have a 32 GB SD card, and making 5 GB of it as a second partition for link2sd. It's essential for the app count that I use.
Well, for performance and battery life, greenify and amplify is enough for me. I do try to use lite version of apps as well, but overall this phone has no issue running lot of apps of you keep the apps in control.
I do. I tend to stick with performance most of the time, but when I need more battery life, I would use balance, and power save when I'm more being on the way.
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