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Hi all,
I got my first android phone (HTC Desire) last week and immediately started experimenting with it. Rooted it, installed a few different roms and ran into pretty much all common problems along the way(and was able to fix all of them as well).
I've been running Desire_HTC_WWE_1.21.40_NoRadio_NoHBoot_Rooted_Signed.zip for a few days now and I am pretty much ok with it. The reason I am not running a 2.2 rom is because the 2.2 roms I tested last week all had some problems(no video, green tint when using camera flash etc.).
I absolutely love this forum but one thing I feel could definitely be improved and that is the description of all the different roms. Is the rom using kernel 2.1 or 2.2, does it include busybox etc. Maybe this is/was in the wiki but i have never seen that as it has been down since i first visited this forum.
In my opinion a standard table with the most important information about the rom should/could be added to all rom releases and make a table with all the different roms a sticky post(maybe even with a feature like i want a rom with these functions, which one could i use). This would make it much easier to select a rom that suits your needs.
I have attached an image of an example table i made with most of the functionality that's important to me.
How do you all feel about this? Is the idea viable and which options should be added/removed in the list?
+1 on this one!! i find it quite confusing sometimes!!
very good +1
Good idea
Indeed. I've always found it confusing to look for a decent ROM on XDA. I used to use Winmo phones and have always installed different ROMs. Perhaps it would be a good idea to make a website that would list ROMs for all phones that XDA has forums for with ratings, features, etc.
If you are familiar with French, you may have a look at this table made by the french Android website FrAndroid.com
Unfortunately, I have no time to translate it, but feel free to copy it and translate in English.
since i doubt that someone will keep up with all the roms i think the best way is for the developers to submit their rom-specsheet
i mean it would be better if all the developers decided in a poll with table examples how they want to intro their roms and then any developer with rom post that table to his thread so we the users can see their differences in more detail and more clearer....
if someone didn't got it read this....
let's say DEV1 post a table1
DEV2 post a table2
DEV3 post a table3
DEV4 post a table4
into a thread and then all of them choose the UniFormat table that they will all use or a table5 which is a combination of all then into their corresponding rom threads they will update with this table showing what their rom has....instead of those lists the put this will be better for all the users....
Some recomendations for the table are:
Radio
Kernel
Apps2Sd (ext)
Sense
720p (with fps)
ocuv
2.2, 2.1
Flash
KNOWN BUGS
Love this idea think its great,
profete162 said:
If you are familiar with French, you may have a look at this table made by the french Android website FrAndroid.com
Unfortunately, I have no time to translate it, but feel free to copy it and translate in English.
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nice table...good work
profete162 said:
If you are familiar with French, you may have a look at <CAN NOT POST LINK> made by the french Android website FrAndroid.com
Unfortunately, I have no time to translate it, but feel free to copy it and translate in English.
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That table looks pretty good, I was also thinking to make a shared google spreadsheet. Language shouldn't be too much of a problem even for non french speaking people I guess but I will try to translate some of the less obvious words:
derniere version = latest version
rom de base = base rom
Nouvelle version du = Latest version released on
Lien = download link
Enregistrement vidéo = video recording
facebook Synchro = facebook synchronization
Echo pendant un appel = echo during call
3 couleurs de LED = 3 color LED
Les Plus = The good
Les moins = The bad
Commentaires = Comments
Recherche vocal = voice search
Pas Recherche vocal = no voice search
Pas les % pour la batterie = No battery %
APN ( 3G+) n'est pas automatique. = APn not automatic
I have been wondering why so many chefs have this KNOWN BUGS thing in their threads at all when it always says NONE... Yeah, right... especially if you read through the thread.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
+1 great idea. It's way to confusing at the moment
+1. It's a wonderful idea, it would certainly help new users that have not yet memorized which builds or kernel versions belong to which version of android . And it would be quite handy for everyone else as well
We should quickly decide which format to use and hopefully chefs will embrace it
Xinot said:
I have been wondering why so many chefs have this KNOWN BUGS thing in their threads at all when it always says NONE... Yeah, right... especially if you read through the thread.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Fully agree with you, i installed a 2.2 rom with "no known bug" only to find out video recording was not working and that taking photos with flash produced a green tint on the photos. I think all rom developers should keep at least the first post in their threads updated when new bugs are found and/or features are added(and not use a 1.0 release thread to post about 2.0 release, this makes all posts before the 2.0 release obsolete).
I've been working on that french spreadsheet, almost finished translating it to english and updating it. One possible way for this to work is to give all rom developers write access to a google spreadsheet so they can add info about their roms. Their rom column could easily be exported to html and/or image to include in their rom release post. I'll see if I can put it online tomorrow.
elvis56 said:
Fully agree with you, i installed a 2.2 rom with "no known bug" only to find out video recording was not working and that taking photos with flash produced a green tint on the photos. I think all rom developers should keep at least the first post in their threads updated when new bugs are found and/or features are added(and not use a 1.0 release thread to post about 2.0 release, this makes all posts before the 2.0 release obsolete).
I've been working on that french spreadsheet, almost finished translating it to english and updating it. One possible way for this to work is to give all rom developers write access to a google spreadsheet so they can add info about their roms. Their rom column could easily be exported to html and/or image to include in their rom release post. I'll see if I can put it online tomorrow.
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Yes this seems to be a very good Idea. The best would be that each developer responsible for his rom, would have access only to his line.
A part from this, it's a very good idea. Add to this a glossary for the meaning of each specification, and will be great.
I am French so feel free to ask for any translation (for now seems to be OK does'nt it ?)
Nice one! +1
You could also include kernel versions, e.g. 2.6.32.9 or 2.6.33.x and so on
I agree the table is very nice and it answers the most common questions I have about every Desire ROM now.
However, I believe this is not going to work unless there is some formal procudure. (Human factor always wins ) For example there could be some common place on the site, where every everybody could register their ROMS for every supported platform. Every platform or even mobile can have own specification, which can be generated by all intrested parties.
It would be nice if there would be some voting, comparison capabilities. As well maybe a list of links to forum messages about known issues, where every issue could have own branch.
Also on such type sites I often miss issue tracking systems like Bugzilla or even some file versioning system. (Of course there comes legal issues for storing some of the files, which probably in this case hinders from having versioning system.)
good idea, would make things so much easier especially now we have so many roms.
cheers
You are right, there are too many ROMs which make me crazy ^^
I have to make my Super Circle Battery mod available for a lot ROMs (if I can ^^)
Here is my freeware game -ads free. Working probably at any resolution, especially tested on my HTC Touch Pro 2 480x800. No big graphics but I think good playability. So download from this thread or game website (search for version 2.5): www.lineapolis.dizzy.pl, play (in game is demonstration and help) and comment it - I wait for your opinion...
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2010-08-10: update to 2.5
mrdarek said:
Here is my freeware game -ads free. Working probably at any resolution, especially tested on my HTC Touch Pro 2 480x800. No big graphics but I think good playability. So download from this thread or game website (search for version 2.3): www.lineapolis.dizzy.pl, play (in game is demonstration and help) and comment it - I wait for your opinion...
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What game is it? How do you play this?
Never heard about such thing
I try explain my game but I'm not native English speaker... Principal game rules are simple. You need draw line by 5 adjacent points. On start it not possible so game rules allow add 1 new point for create line. You have some default set points on start, their number increases with the progress of the game. There is also bonus mode in game - you can store points for future use if you draw line by 5 existing points.
Idea is not new. Before computer times I play this game on boring lessons in school using only paper and pen. But i was not happy - I could not restore my best games, so I create computer version of that game - now I can save games, undo moves, reviews games, found hidden moves e.t.c.
Unique value of that game is that you can play just for fun drawing lines or can play in ambitious style and try get best score.
Peoples don't know my game because is unique in Internet - so many sudokus sokobans and other games for single players but no one has coded my favourite game. So try my game and give me opinion here, might you like it.
Thanks for this, I used to play your java version, but for some reason it stopped working on my hd 2, this works great!
thanks for releasing this as a stand alone cab file
I'm so happy that xda promoting my freeware software At last in win-mo you have nice icon. j2me is not bad language - very strict rules so code are runing fast even on old phones. This is framework version - is fast on fast devices. In j2me I was have trouble programming auto-player, I think you will be like this feature. And in this version at last I got idea how coding bonus mode and doing this!
Whats funny is that I lost my Phone in November, last year, used t oplay your game all teh time. Switched to Android for a while, hated it, came back to WM, flashed an NRG ROM, but was missing your game. Took me a while to find the Java Version, actually found a copy last week, but couldn't get it to work with the Java version I have on this phone. Was quite upset, and just about gave up, until today, that is, when I saw a Tweet about it, on my phone, and imediatly installed it. Still haven't figured out what Bonus mode does, or how it differs from what I am used to. Keep up the good work, and again, I am glad I can play this game again on my HD2. Maybe you can do an animatted GIF to show how this works, I am not getting it from the explination on your web site
The only thing i will say, is that on the HD2, it is a little hard to get the dots sometimes, even after increasing the screen size a bit, so sometimes it takes two or three taps to hit the dot I want. No way around this though, as the HD2 has no stylis. It still works fine, however, and if I am really lazy, I can just cycle through the hints until I find the line I intended, or see another line of interest, that I may have missed.
I will add, you should throw up a donation link, in your sig, or add it to the first post, as some people may want to donate a little token of apreciation...
For those who need an understanding on how to play, I ripped this of your web site:
Maybe you need calibrate screen on HD 2 if you have trouble select point? After adding demonstration game and simple help I think that this gif is no big useful but still OK. Read help and you learn what is bonus mode. Or often use hint and in medium game you can see "can store!" - This is bonus feature. With bonus mode You can get much better score eg my is 135! Or just disable bonus in config and play classic mode like in 2.2 In bonus mode strategy has changed - less thinking how to effectively draw lines - more thinking how get and use precious stored points.
2010-08-08: New 2.4 version released - worth redownload!
Twoja gra podsunela mi pomysl, ze nie widzialem jeszcze gry w popularne KROPKI w ktore namietnie gralismy na kartce w kratke na lekcjach w podstawowce moze cos takiego stworzysz?
I translate it by google translator:
Your game gave me the idea that I have not seen the game in the popular DOT in which we played passionately on a piece of the lessons in class in elementary school: P Maybe this will create?
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Hm, what difference beetwen this game and your? Please explain me on mail
PL: A jaka jest różnica? wytłumacz mi na maila, i nie pisz PL na angielskim forum, użyj translatora... L
I've been a member here for a short while but a frequent visitor for a long time. Recently, with the release of ICS I've become more interested in the work being done by ROM developers here, including a certain 15 year old doing a lot of work porting ICS.
I'd like to know what programming language is used in ROM development so I can maybe learn a thing or two and put in some work of my own.
EDIT: Posted this here because I own a G2 so if languages are different depending on phone, I'm obviously more interested in how to do work on my own.
C, C++, and Java.
This is the NERV Magi Launcher that came with the Docomo SH-06D NERV phone. This YouTube video clearly shows that it was ported to run on a galaxy nexus. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1DDBR2X7G5k
Getting this launcher to work on other devices would be great, but I lack the skills. Here is the forum link that has the system folder from the phone. The first person to get this working will be hailed as a hero. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290194
Would love this on my Note 2 l900
end transmission NERV HQ
hello all!
first of all i'd like to appologize for not posting in development, i posted les them 10 times.
well to get to the point,
i'm a noob in android programming ( have a basic python, html,css and verry basis PHP background though)
i'd like to make my own dashclock extention based on (star)date (not standerd layout) becouse the existing app uses a faulty date layout but that doesn't really matter here
i can get as far as implentating the dates (at least I hope).
can someone provide me with the rest of the coding and tell me where I should write it ?
Regards,
Luke
You can use APKtool to look at how another apk file is coded. The tool can be downloaded from slimroms.net