In regards to what happened with strongsteve earlier this evening, I hope that you will come to the realization that you made a mistake. I know that you are attempting to work it out with Steve directly, but that resolution could, and should, be an admission of your misstep and immediate correction of the error.
I don't think anyone on here would argue with your logic in breaking the forums up into general topics. But in this case, the area was gray at best. If all of Steve's users and supporters knew his work and his information to be in the Dev section, what is the harm in leaving it in the Dev section? Instead, you so insulted a great contributor to the point that he felt compelled to shut his project down. I would strongly argue that that is far more harmful than having Steve's work appear in the Dev section of the forum.
I'm not suggesting that the notion of sub-forums be removed. We can't have chaos here. But in the case of something so gray, something so questionable, you made a bad call. Hell, I'm sure it is just a matter of time before this thread gets moved. But I wanted Steve and his supporters to read this, and this is the sub-forum they are trolling.
So I ask you to simply right your wrong. Because if you don't, a great many of us are going to miss out on some fantastic DEV WORK that Steve is doing.
So what I miss?
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locoboi187 said:
So what I miss?
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Mod:
This is clearly a themed ROM - using a base that is a deodexed base of the stock ROM. This is not an Original Development ROM, but is a themed ROM - so it is moved to Themes & Apps. It is entirely appropriate to place themed ROMs in the Themes section.
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Steve:
I will no longer be supporting these roms or developing any more odexed modded roms since they are not considered worthy for the Dev section
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Just read his threads. His work is original development. Go read a dictionary for "develop" ... Jerdog is in the wrong. Taking away CIQ is not a theme either lol. He was the first to have it odexed, it is original
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I can't believe nobody has started to flame this thread for being posted in the Dev section... lmao
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I can't believe nobody has started to flame this thread for being posted in the Dev section... lmao
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I'm more civilized compared to others when it comes to moving threads. It's the internet,nbd lol
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in b4 lock
Also in regards to "original" development. This isn't the international thread for the galaxy s2. They have separate sections for original development and the other normal development. We have one, it's called development, and the developer was only developing
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just read the thread, and if thats the case, every rom here is a direct copy of samsung/sprint
These guys are rough.
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just read the thread, and if thats the case, every rom here is a direct copy of samsung/sprint
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+100000000
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Not to troll but I'm sure this thread will be closed in a few so I'd like to comment about this situation.. I don't know the full jist but I would think that we as a community would do anything in our power to keep these devs happy cause without them we got NOTHING...Well maybe Rootzwiki but Like I just said....NADA!!! So I support Steve all the way!!!
Considering how few roms have been developed so far we should be embracing all that we have. Looking over the thread I can see how this decision by the mods is heavy handed.
What ROM did Steve make?
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Considering how few roms have been developed so far we should be embracing all that we have.
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Agree with this.
one less dev. not cool.
jerdog said:
I think you missed the point here - no one is saying what has been done here isn't worthy - quite the contrary. This is an effort to move things that are original development and separate them from things that are MOD's and Themes. There is a difference between creating a ROM from scratch and theming someone else's work by taking pieces from here and there, making changes and then zipping it up into an update.zip.
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This is ridiculous. Has anyone here made a rom from scratch?!? I'd love to meet a dev who can create their own rom without ANYTHING from samsung and sprint. Steve's odexed roms are top notch and some of the best roms I've used. No los, no problems. As for people who say you can flash separate mods, you can to some extent but I've found even trying to flash the stock kernel to be a pain for some roms. Steve may have used other elements such as the ICS theme but he gave credit for whom it was due and he made one of my fav roms. Leave it in the DEV section!
This is not a school we are grown people that are subpose to make a community of something we enjoy since when did everyone get there panties In a twist and further more I like to see the moderator Dec anything cause last time I check every rom has sprints of base and everey. Rom thread has thank yous to other devs. Tweaks . Let us work together cause if stuff like this keeps happening people are gonna start jumping ship to rootswiki it ppc. And that's my 2 cents VERY DISAPPOINTED XDA!
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This is ridiculous. Has anyone here made a rom from scratch?!? I'd love to meet a dev who can create their own rom without ANYTHING from samsung and sprint. Steve's odexed roms are top notch and some of the best roms I've used. No los, no problems. As for people who say you can flash separate mods, you can to some extent but I've found even trying to flash the stock kernel to be a pain for some roms. Steve may have used other elements such as the ICS theme but he gave credit for whom it was due and he made one of my fav roms. Leave it in the DEV section!
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Yes, you can flash separate mods if you are deodexed, but Steve odexed some of those mods that otherwise were only meant to be used on deodexed roms by their original developers. As I understand, he was working on odexing others as well. In addition, the other roms on here include all sorts of mods created by others. The all also give credit where credit is due, Steve included as stated previously.
Please leave Strongsteve's roms in the dev section as he has created the only odexed roms with the goodies we all want to have and was continually adding more as he revised the original mods to be compatible with an odexed rom.
PLEASE!! be nice to Strongsteve's he does deserve the respect..... at the same time I wanna give a shoutout to Strongsteve's for all the great job he has done. I thank you very much.
I totally agree with this and feel they are way off base. I support strongsteve fully.
It takes a lot to admit being wrong but that is what needs to happen here from mods.
It was nice to finally see odexed getting some respect not to mention the dev section for this phone finally getting a good amount of activity.
A good thing has been taken away. Please reconsider.
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Request to Moderators of XDA to Create a thread of Android Sub-Forum for our Touch Diamond!!!
We all Know that Touch diamond is on the verge of Nand Recovery development and all the android related post will be under one thread!!!
+1 from me~!
been wondering also why didnt diamond has one already, i mean the developement been taking place for years now~...hrm~
i also Request to Moderators of XDA to Create a thread of Android Sub-Forum for our Touch Diamond!!!
thanks
+1 nice idea
excelent idea!!!
+1 nice idea.
android boot from nand...?
+1 great idea, please do it
Everyone who support this plzzz rate this thread more stars and post in support much more.....if possible contact any moderator who can help in developing our Diamond Android Thread.....we need this thread badly since nand development is in full flow!!!
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totally agree...
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Me too, I used it from 2008 to now
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+1 for android
Has anyone considered posting this here?
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I ask because I rarely go to the General Discussion area and only recently found AOKP there - I don't frequent General too much. It's a great ROM and I wish I had found it sooner (in the Development section).
I believe the Dev accidentally posted it there and decided to keep it there.
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I ask because I rarely go to the General Discussion area and only recently found AOKP there - I don't frequent General too much. It's a great ROM and I wish I had found it sooner (in the Development section).
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Read the rules of the Dev section. The rom is not built from Source it's a port there for it does not belong in the Dev section right now.
Also I would advise taking more trips over to the General and Q&A section since there is where you would learn of a lot of how to and how not too brick ones phones as in the case of the Epic over the past month. As well as some interesting facts that do pop up over here and its better to be informed than mis-informed I always say
Honestly, I spend more time on general than I do in dev. Way more interesting topics
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Android development a flashaholixs buddy
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* Mod please move to Q&A. Thanks! *
Is there a list of the comparison of both ROMs? (Aside to the feature list on the front page.)
btw: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2168093 ....is not very informative.
(Besides X11 being based on International vs X10 (TM base) w/ wifi)....
Note: Aside to the minor differences between the two, I figured this will also help satisfy future curiosities...it's always to have a simple answered post.
You answered your own question. That's it.... What they're based off and the features stated in the changelogs. After that it's personal preference. I tried Em both and loved them both equally. I have tmobile and though I don't use wifi calling.... I'd rather stick with the base. They're both awesome bro simple as that.
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Tweaked is the rom you want.
And this is the wrong section. Good day
Give them a try, see what you like. I am not running either right now but playing with tweaked. They have all been smooth and stable so you can't really go wrong. With that said you are a senior member since 2010, you know this is not the q&a section and this is not related to development hence does not belong in this section. If you click on the top left link for the tmobile samsung galaxy note 2 that will take you back a section where you will see different sections for general, q&a, themes, apps etc.. This post will be removed/or move based on moderator discretion since it's not in the correct place.
Well what are the odds...if it's simply just that then hey...Cheers! :highfive:
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You answered your own question. That's it.... What they're based off and the features stated in the changelogs. After that it's personal preference. I tried Em both and loved them both equally. I have tmobile and though I don't use wifi calling.... I'd rather stick with the base. They're both awesome bro simple as that.
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I'll give Jedi Master 10 a shot...Thanks.
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Give them a try, see what you like. I am not running either right now but playing with tweaked. They have all been smooth and stable so you can't really go wrong. With that said you are a senior member since 2010, you know this is not the q&a section and this is not related to development hence does not belong in this section. If you click on the top left link for the tmobile samsung galaxy note 2 that will take you back a section where you will see different sections for general, q&a, themes, apps etc.. This post will be removed/or move based on moderator discretion since it's not in the correct place.
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I like the jedi
Hasn't anyone notice that we have Omni-rom for our HOX? Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2666267
Do take a break from your hectic lifestyle and flash it than leave your comments to the developer for further improvements.
PLEASE don't forget to thank the dev for porting it for us
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C'mon Mr Hofs! You should really be more supportive of the devs whom tries their best to port over AOSP rom for our hox
No i dont. I don't see the need of such a thread. Why don't we make such a thread for every rom and call out to support the devs. Xda would be loaded with this.
...if you want to support the devs you give info and input about the rom in the specific dev thread instead of making polls/unnecessary threads in the general section.
Such a poll will probably only lead to some sort of rom comparison thread because one day there will be someone who posts here that he thinks that rom A is better than omni because ..... etc etc etc.
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A thread for Omnirom already exists in Original Development. Thread closed