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If my S3 is stock rom but rooted with cwm recovery loaded, will I be able to get the AT&T OTA JB update once it rolls out with no issues? I understand I might lose root, but is that it? I know it will be a couple more months, just want to be sure the phone will be able to get this with no issues when the time comes.
wiz4769 said:
If my S3 is stock rom but rooted with cwm recovery loaded, will I be able to get the AT&T OTA JB update once it rolls out with no issues? I understand I might lose root, but is that it? I know it will be a couple more months, just want to be sure the phone will be able to get this with no issues when the time comes.
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From what I understand, you need the stock recovery in place for OTA updates, otherwise they will fail. Which makes sense.
Ok that makes since, so closer to go time I can just put the stock recovery.img on there right?? Is it that simple?
wiz4769 said:
Ok that makes since, so closer to go time I can just put the stock recovery.img on there right?? Is it that simple?
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flash to stock via Odin, so yes...
-Ryan
Or you could just wait until the update drops and somebody posts a stock rooted version and update it through Odin.
Ok so have to flash the stock rom itself and not just the recovery. I have only really used an older Galaxy S1 to mess with flashing and stuff and never cared about the apps and everything, just would put a rom on there and when needed put it back to stock(borrowed it for a couple months). So if I do a titanium backup of apps+system data I can flash the stock rom, I assume root again and then restore the apps? let it update and Im done, or assuming the stock At&T JB rom is available on XDA I can just flash it on there, root and restore from titanium? Those are the 2 options if I want to stick with stock right?
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Ok so have to flash the stock rom itself and not just the recovery. I have only really used an older Galaxy S1 to mess with flashing and stuff and never cared about the apps and everything, just would put a rom on there and when needed put it back to stock(borrowed it for a couple months). So if I do a titanium backup of apps+system data I can flash the stock rom, I assume root again and then restore the apps? let it update and Im done, or assuming the stock At&T JB rom is available on XDA I can just flash it on there, root and restore from titanium? Those are the 2 options if I want to stick with stock right?
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Right, but it's not usually recommended that you install apps+data with TiBu; better to just install apps only.
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Got ya, I do a backup with apps and data to be safe, but you can just restore apps only from that right?
wiz4769 said:
Got ya, I do a backup with apps and data to be safe, but you can just restore apps only from that right?
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You can. Though could also just let the Play Store redownload your apps for you.
Hello All
So i ended switching my phone m919 4.3 for m919 4.2.
I have a few questions since im a NOOB.
Do i benefit anything if i update to 4.3?
If i root my phone (m919 4.2) do i lose warranty?
Can i unroot 4.2, go to stock, than update to stock 4.3?
I know there is a version of 4.3 out there with no KNOX, if i were to install that, can i still go back to stock 4.2 ?
Thanks
Xx_Joe_Wireless_xX said:
Hello All
So i ended switching my phone m919 4.3 for m919 4.2.
I have a few questions since im a NOOB.
Do i benefit anything if i update to 4.3?
If i root my phone (m919 4.2) do i lose warranty?
Can i unroot 4.2, go to stock, than update to stock 4.3?
I know there is a version of 4.3 out there with no KNOX, if i were to install that, can i still go back to stock 4.2 ?
Thanks
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#1: All the custom cwm/twrp flashable 4.3 zip file roms are KNOX free. (no knox)
#2: You will only get KNOX if you do a Kies update, Odin Flash 4.3 rom or allow the OTA update.
#3: As long as you don't have KNOX you can always flash back to any 4.2.2 zip file cwm/twrp roms.
#4: If you are rooted right now there is NO NEED to un-root before flashing a cwm/twrp flashable
zip file 4.3 custom rom like the Wicked or Darthstalker roms.
If you are on a 4.2.2 rom and you don't do any of the three things in #2 you do not need to worry about
KNOX at all.
I'm on stock 4.2.2 (not rooted), I've rooted my previous devices in the past. I'm coming from the t-mobile galaxy s2.
However, I personally love stock touchwiz with root, and a few bloatware items removed. But, I've read nothing but problems and issues from people having network connection issues to other things happening with their 4.3 flashes. And as to not discredit those people, I'm quite sure they have read and re-read directions several times, but still have issues. So, until those get worked out. I plan to stay right where I'm at. If I do end up rooting, it will be because I ran out of space on my phone and will be moving data to the sd card.
Hopefully you are a lucky one who doesn't suffer any data drops or sound issues when flashing to 4.3.
to each their own though.
HTCMDA said:
I'm on stock 4.2.2 (not rooted), I've rooted my previous devices in the past. I'm coming from the t-mobile galaxy s2.
However, I personally love stock touchwiz with root, and a few bloatware items removed. But, I've read nothing but problems and issues from people having network connection issues to other things happening with their 4.3 flashes. And as to not discredit those people, I'm quite sure they have read and re-read directions several times, but still have issues. So, until those get worked out. I plan to stay right where I'm at. If I do end up rooting, it will be because I ran out of space on my phone and will be moving data to the sd card.
Hopefully you are a lucky one who doesn't suffer any data drops or sound issues when flashing to 4.3.
to each their own though.
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You missed the people who update just their radios to MK2 and no longer have those mobile data problems on 4.3. There's a guide in the General section that's N00B friendly.
lordcheeto03 said:
You missed the people who update just their radios to MK2 and no longer have those mobile data problems on 4.3. There's a guide in the General section that's N00B friendly.
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I know, that's what I'm talking about. People who updated the radios and flashed 4.3, still have issues. still have data drops, sometimes wifi doesn't work, and tethering is broken.
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I know, that's what I'm talking about. People who updated the radios and flashed 4.3, still have issues. still have data drops, sometimes wifi doesn't work, and tethering is broken.
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I have ZERO issues. I built my rom from stock 4.3 firmware. All Knox free. Flashed new modem.bin through Odin and all is good. Wifi is good. Data is good.
People who complain about data and whatnot is user related.
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#1: All the custom cwm/twrp flashable 4.3 zip file roms are KNOX free. (no knox)
#2: You will only get KNOX if you do a Kies update, Odin Flash 4.3 rom or allow the OTA update.
#3: As long as you don't have KNOX you can always flash back to any 4.2.2 zip file cwm/twrp roms.
#4: If you are rooted right now there is NO NEED to un-root before flashing a cwm/twrp flashable
zip file 4.3 custom rom like the Wicked or Darthstalker roms.
If you are on a 4.2.2 rom and you don't do any of the three things in #2 you do not need to worry about
KNOX at all.
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im on 4.3 stock can i downgrade i dont care about warranty or knox
Just to point out, I never said EVERYONE. I just said people.
I'm sure some work flawless, and others not so much. But I know I read through page after page of issues. Some stated theirs worked, but I feel I read more non-working comments than working ones.
re: downgrade
mrej201 said:
im on 4.3 stock can i downgrade i dont care about warranty or knox
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You cannot downgrade if you are on stock 4.3, whether you care about warranty or not.
well thank you !
Misterjunky said:
You cannot downgrade if you are on stock 4.3, whether you care about warranty or not.
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I had a question also, if I am currently on MDL with the new radio, how would I update to 4.3 and then install custom recovery again and gain root? Is that possible?
I'd flash a stock rooted rom
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Android_Monsters said:
I'd flash a stock rooted rom
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I just wanted to update to the new bootloader with the new LTE modem, because I have been seeing some problems b/w switching with LTE when using the new radio without the new LTE modem.
I attempted to flash a 4.4.2 rom yesterday but it couldnt and it gave me a status 7 error. I looked it up and people said that you have to update clockworkmod. Well i tried to through terminal but it couldn't. It said something like could not find directory. So if anyone has any idea what I can do pleast tell me.
Using Galaxy s3 sgh-i747 on PA 3.99.1 ROM
Flash Philz Touch from here via Odin (use the tar version in PDA): http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/d2att
alright i did it through odin and it worked..now im gonna make a backup again and try flashing a rom. hope it works. thanks for the help
If you can't flash a KK ROM, you may need to update your bootloader. If you're not on a 4.3 bootloader, try and avoid it for now.
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If you can't flash a KK ROM, you may need to update your bootloader. If you're not on a 4.3 bootloader, try and avoid it for now.
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im on a 4.3 rom but if i get error status 7 again ill just restore my backup and avoid it...is there a 4.3 bootloader? Also i was about to wipe it but its asking me wipe data/factory reset or clean to install a new ROM. I suggest its the 2nd one but if i do it and it doesnt work can i still restore my backup?
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im on a 4.3 rom but if i get error status 7 again ill just restore my backup and avoid it...is there a 4.3 bootloader? Also i was about to wipe it but its asking me wipe data/factory reset or clean to install a new ROM. I suggest its the 2nd one but if i do it and it doesnt work can i still restore my backup?
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There is a 4.3 bootloader that would be installed if you ran an OTA update to 4.3 or you manually installed the 4.3 bootloader.
Did you make your backup using Philz? If not, make the backup using Philz, then wipe and install.
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There is a 4.3 bootloader that would be installed if you ran an OTA update to 4.3 or you manually installed the 4.3 bootloader.
Did you make your backup using Philz? If not, make the backup using Philz, then wipe and install.
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I just made a backup on Philz and im not sure if i installed a 4.3 bootloader manually or OTA. Just to be clear im wiping to install ROM. so the 2nd option
orlans21 said:
I just made a backup on Philz and im not sure if i installed a 4.3 bootloader manually or OTA
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Doesn't really matter but it's good to know that you need to stay away from any attempts to downgrade the bootloader.
hahah why would i want to downgrade?
orlans21 said:
hahah why would i want to downgrade?
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I have seen posts where people bricked their phone when trying to return to a stock ROM using Odin.
well...im gonna have to put it back to a stock rom when i get a new phone and give this to my dad...i still have the 4.1 stock downloaded on my computer...i dont even remember how to put it back now lol. so i should try flashing a 4.4.2 rom? which rom do you prefer? i have carbon and liquidsmooth. i want halo like i do on PA and both have it i believe
orlans21 said:
well...im gonna have to put it back to a stock rom when i get a new phone and give this to my dad...i still have the 4.1 stock downloaded on my computer...i dont even remember how to put it back now lol
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You can't restore to a completely stock ROM not that you have a 4.3 bootloader. AT&T never released a full 4.3 stock ROM, only an update to 4.3 from an earlier stock ROM.
If you did not have a 4.3 bootloader, you could install any stock AT&T ROM such as 4.1.1. Being able to restore to stock 4.1.1 would also allow you to sim unlock your phone for free, if necessary.
audit13 said:
You can't restore to a completely stock ROM not that you have a 4.3 bootloader. AT&T never released a full 4.3 stock ROM, only an update to 4.3 from an earlier stock ROM.
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well im on rogers and its the same as att. i still have the original samsung touchwiz 4.1 rom just incase anything happens.
Your original post said you have an sgh-i747 which is an AT&T model. If you have a Rogers s3, it's an sgh-i747m.
Regardless of which model you have, you can't downgrade from any 4.3 bootloader which means you can't completely revert back to 4.1.1. The best you could do would be to run 4.1.1 on a 4.3 bootloader.
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Your original post said you have an sgh-i747 which is an AT&T model. If you have a Rogers s3, it's an sgh-i747m.
Regardless of which model you have, you can't downgrade from any 4.3 bootloader which means you can't completely revert back to 4.1.1. The best you could do would be to run 4.1.1 on a 4.3 bootloader.
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sorry i should have included the m lol. i wont worry about going back to 4.1 until the galaxy s5 comes out and im ready to give it to my dad. but back to focusing on this. im about to attempt to flash a 4.4.2 rom. either liquidsmooth or carbon. what do you like?
I prefer Validus version 4.3 because it includes Nova Launcher and it has a dark UI theme.
but thats 4.3. i wanna be on 4.4 and im installing nova and making it the way i had it before.
wait a second is it a 4.4 rom?
orlans21 said:
but thats 4.3. i wanna be on 4.4 and im installing nova and making it the way i had it before.
wait a second is it a 4.4 rom?
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It is a 4.4.2-based rom. The release is version 4.3.
hmm interesting...you do recommend it? what great features does it come with?
I like it because it's a very stripped-down ROM, has a dark UI, and is AOSP-based.
It's not radically different from other ROMs but has exactly what I want. I run the same ROM on a Nexus 4 and Motorola Atrix HD.
New to this phone and I am running 4.1.2 there is a system update a 4.3 that's already downloaded and ready to install but I wanted to make sure the update didn't install any new locks on my phone before I accept. I plan on rooting soon.
Thanks
Rich
U get knox but there are ways to still root with knox so go ahead update
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Uuum hold on. If you plan to root your phone there is no point in allowing the OTA which does install KNOX. Root now and save that extra trouble.
tx_dbs_tx said:
Uuum hold on. If you plan to root your phone there is no point in allowing the OTA which does install KNOX. Root now and save that extra trouble.
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If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
I Would Accept It.
doubledragon5 said:
If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
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If I was in this position, I would accept the update as doubledragon5 said and move forward with root, etc. I have 4.1.2 right now and want the 4.3 update, but I'm rooted and trying to figure out how to unravel this to get to 4.3 myself.
flashred said:
If I was in this position, I would accept the update as doubledragon5 said and move forward with root, etc. I have 4.1.2 right now and want the 4.3 update, but I'm rooted and trying to figure out how to unravel this to get to 4.3 myself.
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If your rooted, go back to bone stock MC2 like I have mentioned in a few other threads. accept the 4.3 udate from sprint, re-root using the tookit, then flash away...
doubledragon5 said:
If the poster wants to install 4.3, then accept the update, root, then flash your 4.3 rom.. This way you won't have all those reboot, lock up issues, that people keep on having.. Plus most devs do not have knox filex in their roms.. And you won't have to flash the wifi fix..
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If your rooted, go back to bone stock MC2 like I have mentioned in a few other threads. accept the 4.3 udate from sprint, re-root using the tookit, then flash away...
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Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
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Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
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I'm wondering the same thing. But if we root then accept the OTA won't that enable the knox counter? So that if we now, "flash away".... won't every flash be counted?
Shouldn't we root, then install the custom roms without the knox? Or do the custom roms also include the knox counter tripping mechanism?
I would like to know how this works also.
Thanks.
I just recently came from 4.1.2 rooted running a deoxided stock rom. I didn't do the OTA update to 4.3. I used the TeamRejects Deoxidexed rooted deknoxed stock rom, the updated MK4 modem, and the WiFi fix. It took about 15-20 minutes to get everything done. I needed to download Odin too for WiFi fix. I didn't run the WiFi fix till I knew there was an issue.
Not much of complaint, but I wish there was a kernel like Perseus for TouchWix based roms. The only one I found was Devil Kernel, but for whatever reason, wasn't stable with TeamReject's ROM. I didn't really care for his custom Kernel ajdustment manager and STweaks didn't work with it at all. Ideally, I prefer a stock rooted deknoxed deoxidized bare bones rom (just phone, contacts, google play) so I have a working phone and can access Google Play so I can install the apps I prefer. The closest I found was Classic Rom but it freezes on initial rom load; Plus, I'm not a fan of the colors and the few things he choose to include.
Stock 4.3 Deodexed, deknoxed, Rooted Rom Available?
lovekeiiy said:
I just recently came from 4.1.2 rooted running a deoxided stock rom. I didn't do the OTA update to 4.3. I used the TeamRejects Deoxidexed rooted deknoxed stock rom, the updated MK4 modem, and the WiFi fix. It took about 15-20 minutes to get everything done. I needed to download Odin too for WiFi fix. I didn't run the WiFi fix till I knew there was an issue.
Not much of complaint, but I wish there was a kernel like Perseus for TouchWix based roms. The only one I found was Devil Kernel, but for whatever reason, wasn't stable with TeamReject's ROM. I didn't really care for his custom Kernel ajdustment manager and STweaks didn't work with it at all. Ideally, I prefer a stock rooted deknoxed deoxidized bare bones rom (just phone, contacts, google play) so I have a working phone and can access Google Play so I can install the apps I prefer. The closest I found was Classic Rom but it freezes on initial rom load; Plus, I'm not a fan of the colors and the few things he choose to include.
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So, you came exactly where I did except you with a different ROM. I would like to get from my 4.1.2 rooted up to 4.3 rooted stock,deodexed, deknoxed if at all possible.
flashred said:
Thank you! You're the first to shed some light on this for me. To get back to stock using the toolkit, would I need to first flash stock recovery, then Stock Firmware, then bone stock MC2? Afterwards boot in, accept the update, then re-root using the toolkit.
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Sorry for not getting back sooner. I have been busy with work, and family things.Use billards return to full stock with counter reset. It installs everything including recovery, boot loader,firemware etc... Then set up your phone, when prompt accept the ota update.. Once done retoot, and flash what ever 4.3 rom you want.. The knox counter will still be there, but if you need a trip back to Sprint, go back to Full MC2 stock, knox counter will no longer be there.. Most 4.3 room do not include the Knox files so no worries there.
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So, you came exactly where I did except you with a different ROM. I would like to get from my 4.1.2 rooted up to 4.3 rooted stock,deodexed, deknoxed if at all possible.
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Sounds like it. The odd part, I have been able to flash Reject's stock deoxidezed deknoxed rom with no problem. I tried to flash Classic 3, but it froze on Classic's initial loading page (the one after the Samsung boot loader). I had issues another rom, but turned out it was for the international model; I wasn't paying attention where I was in the forums.
If you do what I did, you'll need to flash modem update using Odin on the PC. So, you may need to download Odin.
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Depending on what you like to do, you may find 4.3 MK4 more limiting, espcially on the TouchWiz side. AOSP probably more mod friendly at this point. From what I've been able to find, there is only one custom kernal for 4.3 TouchWiz which is Devil's Kernal. It's solid, but my phone was unstable. Not sure if the phone since I may have taken out something it used when I was trying to debloat the phone. Didn't care for his Kernel Tweak manager. Neither the stock or devil's kernal supports Stweaks. Neither I could figure out how to change the boat loading animation.
I have nothing against AOSP projects. I like them. But as far as I know, none support the Spen, which I like to use with web browsers. Don't use the Samnsung Spen apps. Just wasn't that impressed with them, but I see how they can be useful. Although, SketchPro is really nice with it. I just find TouchWiz is more than sufficient for my needs and stock isn't as quirky.
My galaxy siii was rooted before kitkat was out, and I have been using it until now and have not yet update to KitKat yet because AT&T is not part of it any more.
How do I get KitKat on my phone? Do I have to unroot the phone and put it back into AT&T mode to download or what should I do?
this might help.
remember:READREADREAD
BACKUPBACKUPBACKUP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1802160
good luck
err on the side of kindness
You will need to unroot your phone and have the stock recovery.
Thank you for both replies gentleman
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You will need to unroot your phone and have the stock recovery.
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I might add to this...if you removed any stock carrier or vendor apps from 4.3 while being rooted...you'll have to restore them via a Titamium Backup or some other way or the OTA update will not install properly. (I realized that the OTA update from 4.3 to 4.4.2 will patch these apps to update them to 4.4.2 compatibility)
If you can't do that or if its unreasonable to do that based on the way the phone was modified while rooted...I suggest flashing the stock 4.3 rom via Odin and then take the OTA.
Id recommend flashing the 4.3 firmware via Odin to begin with. Its starting to seem like a lot of people who even just have to unroot are having problems with the ota. I think Odin flashing stock 4.3 will give the best chance of a successful update.
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I might add to this...if you removed any stock carrier or vendor apps from 4.3 while being rooted...you'll have to restore them via a Titamium Backup or some other way or the OTA update will not install properly. (I realized that the OTA update from 4.3 to 4.4.2 will patch these apps to update them to 4.4.2 compatibility)
If you can't do that or if its unreasonable to do that based on the way the phone was modified while rooted...I suggest flashing the stock 4.3 rom via Odin and then take the OTA.
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I am having this issue. I rooted on 4.3 and removed Google books and newsstand. I then uprooted and did a factory reset , so everything in download mode says "official" but the apps were still missing so I downloaded them from the play store. My question is will this let me get the OTA now or do I have to push the apps to the /system directory somehow? Also if I flash the 4.3 ODIN tar file, will it trip my warranty bit? It's at 0 right now and want to keep it that way until my warranty is up.
The firmware shouldn't trip the bit, but I can't promise that. Im sure its confirmed one way or the other in its thread though.
As for those apps, they'd have to be system apps, so just installing normally won't help. More importantly though, they would also need to be the same version that was originally built into the firmware. The apps you mentioned have seen many updates and using the current versions will not work.
I got the phone 2 weeks ago and it came with 4.3 installed on it. Would I be able to use the current version and just push them to /system/app with titanium backup? I am trying to get the OTA without tripping any warranty or security measures.