The 8.4" should be the perfect size... But the 4800 mah battery doesn't look too promising on paper.
It's about the same as the note 8 and has a bigger/much higher resolution screen and a faster SoC... and the battery on the Note 8 wasn't great to begin with.
Any idea how the the tab Pro will fare?
Apple increased the weight/thickness to maintain the battery life on the mini with retina display... Wonder if Samsung should've done something similar.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...F8&qid=1391889878&sr=8-1&keywords=tab+pro+8.4
According to the product description in Amazon it's up to 6 hours..!! Wth samsung this is ridiculous, I want to buy this tablet but now I must looking for alternatives
6hrs would be very disappointing.
GSMarena have a unit for review. It should be live early next week.
Probably get a better idea then. Doesn't sound too good.
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6hrs would be very disappointing.
GSMarena have a unit for review. It should be live early next week.
Probably get a better idea then. Doesn't sound too good.
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No, it does NOT sound good...
What are they thinking...?
Isn't "Grab-it-in-the-morning-till-recharge-it-in-the-evening" a self-imposed, crystal-clear specification by now?
Don't design teams use these kind of devices, themselves?....What the....!?
XK
Looking at the official samsung website, it lists the tab at 12 hrs for video playback and 10hrs for browsing
Battery*
Battery Type and Size 5.3 Volt, Lithium Ion, 4800 mAh
Music Play Time Up to 127 hours*
Video Play Time Up to 12 hours*
Internet Use Time Up to 10 hours*
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That is iPad mini levels. Don't expect that. Even if its 80% of what they claim, it'll be good enough.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab/SM-T320NZWAXAR-specs
Well GSMArena got 7:30 for both video playback and web browsing. In my opinion I am fairly disappointed as that is clearly the Achilles of this tablet. People with mixed usage should expect 4-5 hours of screen time which is like 60% of the battery life on the iPad mini.
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I am extremely disappointed too.
It's inadmissible that by wanting to match or undercut competition by 1 or 2mm in relates to device thickness they're willing to cripple it like this.
Because this is what we're talking about: 1 couple more millimeters in the battery thickness and most probably a very significant mAh bump could be attained.
Let's see if this is not DOA because of this. The "A"-cult reviewers, always already so accolades-limited when talking about Samsung products, will have a ball with this one, that's for sure.
XK
Never expected it to match the iPad mini.. 8 hrs flat wouldve been decent.. like I said earlier. 80% of the ipad is about what you'd expect from an Android tablet. and that should get you through the day
That said, I'm unsure about their testing methods. They have the Nexus 7 2013 at just 7 hrs of video playback which is very low. Anandtech shows it at about 12 hours.
Similar for the web browsing tests
Wonder if GSM Arena make the mistake of checking battery at 50% brightness instead of setting it at a certain number and not %.
That would skew results.
Link to Anandtech's nexus 7 battery test
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7231/the-nexus-7-2013-review/2
Another area where the iPad does brilliantly is the 3D battery life. It gets over 6hrs whereas Android tablets struggle to get past 4. But I don't really game that much so that isn't a deal breaker.
It's not a disaster..It's on the same level as the G Pad 8.3,, Waiting for other reviews to test the battery.
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Never expected it to match the iPad mini.. 8 hrs flat wouldve been decent.. like I said earlier. 80% of the ipad is about what you'd expect from an Android tablet. and that should get you through the day
That said, I'm unsure about their testing methods. They have the Nexus 7 2013 at just 7 hrs of video playback which is very low. Anandtech shows it at about 12 hours.
Similar for the web browsing tests
Wonder if GSM Arena make the mistake of checking battery at 50% brightness instead of setting it at a certain number and not %.
That would skew results.
Link to Anandtech's nexus 7 battery test
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7231/the-nexus-7-2013-review/2
Another area where the iPad does brilliantly is the 3D battery life. It gets over 6hrs whereas Android tablets struggle to get past 4. But I don't really game that much so that isn't a deal breaker.
It's not a disaster..It's on the same level as the G Pad 8.3,, Waiting for other reviews to test the battery.
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Please don't do this. Relativise shortcomings of a device is an Apple-cult thing.
This can be a disaster. The only thing that can save it from a disaster is if both the screen and processor prove out to be extremely frugal in what relates to power consumption.
I'll give you an example of a real-life severe inconvenience of the short battery life in my otherwise amazing Tab 7.7:
While in a foreign country, using it as a navigator with both WI-Fi and GPS turned on (for Google maps full use) or even with just GPS activated (for Co-Pilot usage) my tab dies 1/2 to 3/4 into our daily run-abouts, at the precise moment we are becoming tired, less vigilant and acute-deductive, the time of the day when we usually need it most.
...And since we're talking about shortcomings, although the GSM rates the 8.4 display as "amazing" I see that a crucial parameter for photography (my main hobby and the one I subject all my purchases in this area to) and high-resolution movies viewing is also not that impressive. The contrast ration is rated at 1:822 / 1:830, right in the same range as Retina ones (with these actually having lower black levels).
One of the reasons I elected the 7.7 as my tab and why I love it is the practically infinite contrast ratio, something that makes movies and photographs "pop" like nothing else on the market.
I understand that, not featuring an Super-AMOLED screen, the 8.4 could never deliver those levels of contrast, but....1:830?
XK
Im waiting on some more reviews before I determine my final judgement on this tablet.
Unfortunately after seeing the iPad Air's battery life first hand, it is hard to be impressed by 7:30 screen on time which in reality will be a lot less than that.
Apple places a conservative estimation of battery life on the iPad at 10 hours yet the iPad exceeds those estimates in pretty much all reviews and user opinions.
I have gotten fed up with these estimates provided by Android tablet manufacturers, Samsung mentions 12 hours of multimedia playback yet the devices lasts for barely 60% of that in its first test.
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Im waiting on some more reviews before I determine my final judgement on this tablet.
Unfortunately after seeing the iPad Air's battery life first hand, it is hard to be impressed by 7:30 screen on time which in reality will be a lot less than that.
Apple places a conservative estimation of battery life on the iPad at 10 hours yet the iPad exceeds those estimates in pretty much all reviews and user opinions.
I have gotten fed up with these estimates provided by Android tablet manufacturers, Samsung mentions 12 hours of multimedia playback yet the devices lasts for barely 60% of that in its first test.
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I will wait too but one thing is already clear: Running times won't be impressive.
Samsung is playing with fire here.
While this whole tab thing was in inception/infancy it was OK to come short on this (...or tapping the "models explosion" approach...). People would go "it's OK, they're probing approaches".
But as "mobile devicery" reaches it's adult stage, with users approaching the acquisition of models the same way they do the replacement of their TV sets, refrigerators or cars, they running the palpable risk of having users deep imprinting the notion: "Samsung...Yeah, they're OK but their running times suck".
Once this mind set reaches the majority of the potential market there will be no turning back. It won't matter then that they come up with a tab or a smartphone that can run 5 days without recharging, it will still be perceived as "Meh!".
American cars were once found to be "gas guzzlers". It doesn't matter that the US auto industry now makes models as frugal as anyone else. Worldwide consumers still perceive them that way and that is killing the perfect option US auto makers could resort to in order to swiftly circumvent the disaster that befell upon them: Neutralize domestic sales drops by going global.
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6 he's isn't that bad that's what I get with my nexus 7 2013 so its normal
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6 he's isn't that bad that's what I get with my nexus 7 2013 so its normal
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6 hrs is not bad on its own but when other devices can get nearly double that, it becomes pretty pathetic.
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That's true but this is kinda my only option cuz I have to have the latest processor and best screen and graphics at a cheap price so I can finally get rid of my laggy nexus 7
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I have owned the 8.4 since the summer, and have had an average mixed usage battery life of about ten hours. This includes being connected to WiFi, watching YouTube and browsing the web, and cooing over cat pics on social media apps. It's not as utterly disappointing as you make it out to be. It doesn't last as long when watching YouTube at 1080p60 or playing a resource-intensive game like WoT or RR3, but that is to be expected.
Lighten up, yeah?
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I see several threads talking about battery life but no one has shown their actual "screen on" time which is what really counts, as it tells us how long have you actually been using the phone for.
I am starting this thread in order to try to collect a more accurate representation of how long the Galaxy Nexus battery lasts, using screen on time as the biggest factor (which it is).
So, in order to find this out, owners of the GNexus, please go to the battery stats section and tap on the "Screen" line, which will tell you for how long has the display been on.
How long are you guys seeing the display last until the battery is really low?
As a frame of reference, I remember seeing about 6-7hrs max on the Galaxy S2, when used with mainly black backgrounds.
I'm interested in this too. While each person's usage will differ, a couple of figures/screenshots would help gauge how much more battery the large screen uses as compared to phones some are planning to switch from.
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From my testing using 3g browsing the phone lasts at most 4 hours with screen on. This is at manual 40% brightness since automatic brightness makes the screen too dark for me. Battery life is definitely worse than galaxy S2 in fact it is so bad that I an considering returning the phone.
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darkoroje said:
From my testing using 3g browsing the phone lasts at most 4 hours with screen on. This is at manual 40% brightness since automatic brightness makes the screen too dark for me. Battery life is definitely worse than galaxy S2 in fact it is so bad that I an considering returning the phone.
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ok..... ive had a quiet day of usage .... few calls, several texts, couple of pictures, bit of browsing and ten mins testing video capabilities. my stats are :
7h 15m on battery
screen 57%
android os 17%
phone idle 8%
mobile standby 4%
media server 4%
vplayer 3%
Android system 2%
Voice calls 2%
Browser 2%
wifi 2%
and my battery is still at 65% !!!
i never used to get this much juice out of my HTC Desire !
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ok..... ive had a quiet day of usage .... few calls, several texts, couple of pictures, bit of browsing and ten mins testing video capabilities. my stats are :
7h 15m on battery
screen 57%
android os 17%
phone idle 8%
mobile standby 4%
media server 4%
vplayer 3%
Android system 2%
Voice calls 2%
Browser 2%
wifi 2%
and my battery is still at 65% !!!
i never used to get this much juice out of my HTC Desire !
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Please go back to battery stats and tap on "Screen" to know exactly how much time has the screen been on for. That is what we really need to know.
The standby life of the phone with the screen off is fine. However, with the screen on it gobbles power and lasts 4 hours max. Here is screenshot of my usage today:
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. This is with about 3 and a half hours of browsing over 3G.
Guys, thanks for the screenshots but please tap on the Screen percentage bar to show actual screen on time. That is the statistic we need.
Here it is, it is actually worse than I thought the screen was only on for 2h 27min:
I did manually set the brightness to around 40% since as I said before auto-brightness is too dark for me.
Thanks, that's what I needed. It is indeed pretty bad, as I expected SAMOLED is still an awful choice for web browsing.
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Thanks, that's what I needed. It is indeed pretty bad, as I expected SAMOLED is still an awful choice for web browsing.
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That's the case with all screens. Until battery technology gets an update (in two to four years time) we won't see a better performance without extended battery.
That's just how it is. It never bothered me on HTC Desire. During one day I don't use the screen more than three or four hours in total. At best I use it one hour in the morning during the process of getting to work and one hour to get home and then an hour in between during calls, checking news or reading e-mail. I personally am totally fine with it, it is not meant to replace a computer or a tablet that both have much better power supply simply thanks to their size.
my screen has now been on for 1h 32 mins
(total 8h 34 and now 64% battery)
shame......we need more people to chime in. I've heard about better battery life than a few hours of screen time.
Only reason why i like iPhone....can browse internet for hours and hours and hours and GPS
I also do not usually use the phone more than 3 - 4 hours a day during a weekday. However on weekend or when travelling I do need a longer-lasting phone. I was hoping it would last as long as Galaxy S2, but unfortunately it doesn't.
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That's the case with all screens. Until battery technology gets an update (in two to four years time) we won't see a better performance without extended battery.
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Not exactly true. AMOLED and SAMOLED screens have different power requirements depending on what is showing on screen. Most websites have a white background, which for AMOLED screens means almos 3 times as much power usage as a standard LCD screen. So, technically LCD screens are better for browsing as their power usage remains constant no matter what you are looking at.
Just check out Anand's battery performance chart:
The iPhone wins because it has a smaller screen which is also IPS based and therefore very energy efficient. As you go down the list you'll see the only SAMOLED screen with "decent" performance is the Galaxy S2, and even then it's almost 3 hours worse than the Atrix, for example (granted the Atrix has a larger battery, but not by much).
What saddens me is how newer devices are targeted almost as mini-tablets thanks to their huge screens yet by using Super AMOLED screens they are limiting what you can use them for. The Galaxy Note barely lasts 3-4 hours browsing according to some tests.
I hope to see some more positive results soon, because as it stands I'm not happy with what I'm seeing from the Nexus.
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On my Nexus S, I set the brightness to 8%.
And that's enough for me.
I have auto brightness toggle ready at the home screen if needed, for example during outdoor use.
All in all, I use my phone mostly indoor. Super AMOLED at 8% brightness is more than enough
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For me it never really depend on the phone it was mostly something around 3-4 hours.
What counts as well is how good the drain in the deep sleep state is.
It wasn't a problem to survive 24h with my SGS II but with Desire, which is what I'm using now, I wouldn't bet on it.
ics just doesn't seem worth it...
this makes me sad
i've had the atrix since it's been out and i've really been hoping to upgrade to something just as solid. for all the complaints i've read about the atrix i figured many other phones were better yet i go read on other phones and find the atrix wins out all the time. i'm running cm7.1 (not nightlies) and not o/c or u/v and my phone sports screen times over 7 hours. i can play any game. the phone has very decent ppi thanks to qHD on a 4" but the pentile sucks. gps is spot on...ok i could go on forever, i guess from what i'm reading, i'll just wait till the next 720p screen comes out with maybe like tegra3 next year, hopefully it'll come with lte by that time which is really what i wanted to upgrade to. 4.0 ics just doesn't seem worth the 3-4 months i'll have to wait vs the sacrifices i'd have to make...
that's pretty bad i am considering the nexus but that battery stats damm worse than de gs2
really unsure what the concern is. id never have got this much out of my Desire-
51% battery
screen 56%
screen time 2h
and thats with a fair amount of tinkering now.
I LOVE the Galaxy Nexus, but the rate at which the battery discharges is just ridiculous. I'll use the phone for 15 minutes doing things like Twitter or Web Browsing, and it'll discharge 5% in that time. To me, that is horrible. I'm being really conservative too. Throughout a day I try not to play videos, games, or anything else intensive because I know it'll ruin my battery life. Even on standby it discharges 5% in an hour. Typically I lose about 10% an hour and my max has been 12 hours so far.
I have auto sync turned on and keep the screen low when possible. I NEED auto sync on because of the nature of my work. Compared to my iPhone 4S battery is downright pathetic.
Today my usage consisted of one phone call, a few text messages, lots of Twitter, and light web browsing. Nothing too crazy. Again I'm being really conservative with my usage whereas on my iPhone I can do whatever I want and not worry. I'm just not seeing how people are getting 15+ hours and claim heavy usage. I'd love to believe that! The battery drains so fast during normal usage it may be a deal breaker for me.
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It sounds like your definition of light usage is wrong.
I wouldn't consider heaps of twitter and some web browsing light usage. I would consider it moderate usage, in which case you seem to be in line with everyone else.
I agree with you in that the battery life isn't quite what I would have liked. Ideally I wouldn't have to worry about battery at all, and I'd be able to play games and browse the web as much as I like, but for normal usage it's fine.
The next Nexus though, man, that will only have to be charged once a month. I can't wait.
Niksko said:
It sounds like your definition of light usage is wrong.
I wouldn't consider heaps of twitter and some web browsing light usage. I would consider it moderate usage, in which case you seem to be in line with everyone else.
I agree with you in that the battery life isn't quite what I would have liked. Ideally I wouldn't have to worry about battery at all, and I'd be able to play games and browse the web as much as I like, but for normal usage it's fine.
The next Nexus though, man, that will only have to be charged once a month. I can't wait.
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Twitter hardly taxes the processors at all. Refreshing it every so often should hardly take any battery life at all. Web Browsing I can understand, but my total time browsing today probably amounts to 10 minutes total.
I wonder how much of the drain is attributed to the 4.65" screen. It's a monster.
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I expect the battery life go improve within the first few cycles. I had a similar experience with the Nexus S last year.
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I wonder how much of the drain is attributed to the 4.65" screen. It's a monster.
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Most of it. 720p Super AMOLED HD is killing the battery. The only way to last a long time is to not turn the screen on.
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I expect the battery life go improve within the first few cycles. I had a similar experience with the Nexus S last year.
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I've had the phone for a week so far.
almost 3hours of screen from 10h standby!! mate give us a break and get back 4s. !!
heavy usage not low!
i can see low signal (coverage) what can also produce higher battery drain.
twiter running 24/7 in backround sync on + wifi + games...
i dont know what you want... you will never get anything similar from for example HTC sensation or even your favourite 4s.
dont take it on bad way..but if you dont know what to do - try to save your battery..
-lower your screen britness
-remove/disable apps that are producing the heavy drain (use betterbatterystats app)
-stop playing games - if you wanna long life for your battery.
-etc...
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People using a G2x claim to get a day and a half... I'm lucky to get out of work. Push email for work is to blame I think. I get tons of emails (100 a day) and I think its taxing. From your pics, the screen used over 50% of it. That's a lot.
Sucks.
Also make sure your aren't turning on the screen every 5 minutes to check the status. Since your coming from an iOS, are you closing apps properly (back = close, home = minimize).
I'm not saying your crazy but just saying.
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I expect the battery life go improve within the first few cycles. I had a similar experience with the Nexus S last year.
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I had the same thing happen with the Nexus One. The battery wasn't that great but, got better after a few charge cycles.
I've never had a Android phone that could match the battery life of the Iphone. I can sit the iphone down at night without putting it on the charger and, if it's at 100% it will be at about 90-95% when I wake up. I did the same thing with my Mytouch 4G and, it was at 15%
To the OP, I would recommend keeping a charging cable with you when you out and about especially in your car. I've had car docks with a few of my android phones and, always keep the phone docked when I'm driving somewhere. It really helps.
What you also need to remember is this is the first release of ICS and is still in development so battery life my be improved in the next update. Like you mention iPhone4S there was massive battery leakage in the first release of IOS 5 which Apple apparently fixed in the newest update.. So maybe in the next update we can expect some bugs ironed out.
Used to only have ONLY 2-3 hours screen ON on my Vibrant so I know how SAmoled looks like.
I know iphone battery is good, but you need to consider the screen size too..
Get a spare battery with your "light usage", but I am thinking how much would it cost becoz of the NPC antenna.
Too good thing is, unlike iPhone, you can buy a spare battery and carry it with you.
3 hours of screen use is what the problem is. That is a long time. I wouldn't complain about that at all.
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3 hours of screen use is what the problem is. That is a long time. I wouldn't complain about that at all.
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exactly what i am trying to say
+1
Hunteres said:
almost 3hours of screen from 10h standby!! mate give us a break and get back 4s. !!
heavy usage not low!
i can see low signal (coverage) what can also produce higher battery drain.
twiter running 24/7 in backround sync on + wifi + games...
i dont know what you want... you will never get anything similar from for example HTC sensation or even your favourite 4s.
dont take it on bad way..but if you dont know what to do - try to save your battery..
-lower your screen britness
-remove/disable apps that are producing the heavy drain (use betterbatterystats app)
-stop playing games - if you wanna long life for your battery.
-etc...
Best regards
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I already said I didn't play any games today and my screen brightness is low. For some reason Shadowgun stays in the battery info screen. I played the game two days ago and manually closed it out. Even after rebooting the phone its still there.
I'm being 100% real, stop trying to make excuses or act like I'm an iPhone fanboy. The Galaxy Nexus combined with ICS is the best phone I've ever used! I'm just terribly disappointed with the battery life.
Twittering all day is sucking up battery because of all the data use. Dude, youre not a light user with 3 hours screen time moderate, possibly heavy depending on background stuff sycing automatically. You have some tweaking to do, not whining.
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3 hours of screen use is what the problem is. That is a long time. I wouldn't complain about that at all.
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3 hours is not that much. Seriously. It shouldn't be damn near dead after 10 hours. Imagine if I decided to play a game for 15 minutes or watch 2 YouTube videos.
I bet if people were getting an hour and half with this phone, all the fanboys here would say the same thing. "Man, an hour and a half is a long time! You should be happy with that!".
pukemon said:
Twittering all day is sucking up battery because of all the data use. Dude, youre not a light user with 3 hours screen time moderate, possibly heavy depending on background stuff sycing automatically. You have some tweaking to do, not whining.
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I've tested out the battery difference by turning off auto sync. Doesn't make a difference at all. Fact of the matter is that the battery drains like crazy when the screen is on.
I'll just turn my phone on because actually using it is frowned upon here.
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Too good thing is, unlike iPhone, you can buy a spare battery and carry it with you.
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Except they aren't out yet
So I understand from reviews from when the One X and XL were first released that the XL had better battery life than the X. But since then the X has seen a bunch of updates, so how's the battery life now? Are the two comparable or does the XL still have the advantage?
I'm looking at getting one of the two, but still can't decide between them...
battery life would go to the XL, until nvidia updates the Tegra 3 kernel, it doesn't help that we're using an ancient kernel. Once they do that whenever that may be, we should have better battery life.
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The XL has better battery life for general use... Until you start using LTE data, at which point it drains much quicker than the X (although the XL definitely has the best battery life of any LTE phone right now)
The X's battery life has gotten considerably better since release. I wouldn't say it's excellent now (a term reserved for phones such as the RAZR Maxx and Galaxy Note), but I get a day or so with brightness on auto, sync on, wifi connected now and then, a few calls, a decent amount of gaming and surfing, a fair bit of Spotify streaming, some tethering to my tablet and some stored and Youtube videos.
I mean, in a day where ALL of this happens, I'd probably get home with 5%, but never in danger of not being contactable. It uses next to no power while on standby (in case you're worried you'll run out before you get home) and once it finally shuts down, it'll give you another 10 minutes or so if you start it back up (not sure if that's a feature or a bug, but it's useful in an emergency).
I guess it's all based on what you need.
Has Nvidia said anything about the update on tegra drivers?
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battery life would go to the XL, until nvidia updates the Tegra 3 kernel, it doesn't help that we're using an ancient kernel. Once they do that whenever that may be, we should have better battery life.
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I have tried the following roms: android revolution, chameleon (that pokemon one), slim ics, cyanogenmod9, miui.
None of them improved my battery life appreciably in the sense that at no point did I go, wow, my battery is better. The battery lasts ME 8 hours, maximum. I didn't do any scientific tests with the different ROMs. It seems to me that by FAR the dominant determinant of battery life is the screen. When I see the battery logs/graphs of people on this forum, they report that the X (the international version) can last 24 hours, etc. Really, all that is needed is the screen on time. Why? Because we already know that you can leave this phone on standby for days and days. This is something that nvidia really go right. But wow, that screen, it sucks the juice dry like nobody's business.
When I see logs/graphs that show that the screen is 33% of the battery's usage, I take that to mean that either the phone was not being used much, or was just being used to talk/listen to music, but it definitely could not have been on for very long, or it was on at the lowest possible setting. With my usage patterns, when I'm actually looking at the screen (surfing, writing emails, reading a book) my screen takes up 70% of the battery's juice. On autobrightness, my screen can be on for 3 hrs, 15 minutes. I do not believe I have a faulty battery, nor do I believe that I have a faulty phone. I believe that this is just the way that the One X truly performs. I'm going to pay attention to the iphone 4's screen on time, but before I go and run the test, my impression is that it is around the 5 hour range.
I have no issues with the one x's standby time. It basically doesnt use any power on standby.
The key for me is not that I wish for some magical advances in technology right now. My benchmark is how does this phone perform with regard to the latest and greatest out there? And my impression is that it is a step behind. I'm currently testing my iphone4, and will pay attention to the usage. But all I can tell you is that my usage patterns haven't changed over the last 2 years, while my phone has. My iphone 4 can last me throughout the day, but this one x, most definitely does not. I was completely blown away by the anandtech review that stated that the one x from AT&T, was absolutely the most battery efficient phone currently in production. I have the one x int'l version, and it is still no slouch and compares favorably to the 2 yr old iphone 4 acc to anandtech's batt benhmarks. So when I got my one x int'l version, I was astonishingly disappointed.
That said, I would not take anandtech's benchmarks literally. They're good for relative comparisons. They're also famous for showing how battery efficient the macs are, and in no way do I ever approach the battery runtimes they report.
To me the only remaining question is if getting the S4 processor inside my phone would improve battery life to iphone 4 levels. I believe that it may, even though I just said that screen time is the dominant factor. I do recall noticing that when I'm just reading an ebook, and the processor is idling, the battery drain isn't actually nearly as fast. So maybe the cpu will improve. My biggest dilemma is whether having updated, rewritten drivers for the tegra 3 really can do wonders. I am skeptical that a) this will ever be done in a timely fashion b) if drivers will have a big enough effect on a fundamentally older architecture and manufacturing process. As we know the tegra 3 uses a 40 nm process, while the S4 uses a 28 nm process.
Truth be told, in all honesty--my biggest mistake was ever buying the iphone 4. For all that that phone can not do, and my philosophical differences with their approach to products, I did not realize until now that the things that that phone does, it does incomparably well...and that phone has checked off all the right boxes for me: battery life, perceived speed, gorgeous screen, design, etc.
Are there two kernels? The ICS kernel and the tegra 3 kernel? When I put cyanogenmod9, I have the ICS kernel, right? We have no control over the tegra 3 kernel? Just not sure if ICS source code can affect the tegra3 kernel.
My one x easily out performs my gnex and gs2 in battery and I don't tippy toe with my phone either emails, widgets, browsing, downloading, auto brightness its a powerful phone don't see why I should run it conservative especially when it can handle the pressure easily if I want conservative ill buy a Nokia
I agree with lamenramen I hate people posting screen shots of their phone on standby times its effing pointless because they've left their phone on standby for three days and haven't touched it what's the point of showing those stats if your not using the damn phone its as useless as posting up a picture of tree
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Imo with future updates from HTC and the tegra3 update from Nvidia optimised for ICS we'll see battery life improvements.
I never believed....
I could never believe that my HOX will give me this much battery life!
kamaldeepahluwalia said:
I could never believe that my HOX will give me this much battery life!
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because you barely used your screen..its only at 31% usage over 2 days
If you want to see crazy battery just leave your phone on standby and don't use it same thing eh its the screen that uses most battery
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Greetings,
this thread shall help us to discuss the overall experiences with battery life / SoT of our all new HTC U12+ (ime)/Exodus 1 (exo). As I'm receiving my demo unit soon, I'll start uploading screenshots of my personal battery life here, as you can do as well, as soon as you got your HTC U12+.
5m4r7ph0n36uru
Here's one impressive screen shot of @mrjwilliams that can also be found on Twitter.
Uptime 2d 12h 43m
Left 15%
SoT. 4h 39m
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So much for all the reviews that just talk about a reasonable battery consumption. Indeed, the consumption is really very impressive - in a positive sense, of course!
5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
So much for all the reviews that just talk about a reasonable battery consumption. Indeed, the consumption is really very impressive - in a positive sense, of course!
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I'm really hoping that in paying homage to the M9's hard edge around the screen, they also aren't paying homage to the M9's horrid battery life as well. The reviews all seem to say that the battery life is bad.
OGhoul said:
I'm really hoping that in paying homage to the M9's hard edge around the screen, they also aren't paying homage to the M9's horrid battery life as well. The reviews all seem to say that the battery life is bad.
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Reviews give you the battery life after the first 48 hoirs which is never great. The picture above shows it after a week of usage though. That's what's interesting, bit no blog and Tech review cares about doing it right nowadays.
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Reviews give you the battery life after the first 48 hoirs which is never great. The picture above shows it after a week of usage though. That's what's interesting, bit no blog and Tech review cares about doing it right nowadays.
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Yep. I really don't pay battery talk from reviewers any attention. Most of these reviewers live inside the camera during their review period which murders battery compared to just using the phone like regular people do. Simulated battery test aren't realistic either.
5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Reviews give you the battery life after the first 48 hoirs which is never great. The picture above shows it after a week of usage though. That's what's interesting, bit no blog and Tech review cares about doing it right nowadays.
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Yep. I really don't pay battery talk from reviewers any attention. Most of these reviewers live inside the camera during their review period which murders battery compared to just using the phone like regular people do. Simulated battery test aren't realistic either.
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I agree for the most part, however Android Central is claiming they've had theirs for a week. On the flipside, a near 3500mah battery should be more than enough to go a day on a charge, even for a heavy user like myself. I mean, the Essential was the only Android phone that I can recall owning that would go a day for me, and it was only 3000mah. Sense is nearly as clean, the 845 is reputed to be a battery sipper, and another 500mah is another 500mah, so I'm hoping you're both right.
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I agree for the most part, however Android Central is claiming they've had theirs for a week. On the flipside, a near 3500mah battery should be more than enough to go a day on a charge, even for a heavy user like myself. I mean, the Essential was the only Android phone that I can recall owning that would go a day for me, and it was only 3000mah. Sense is nearly as clean, the 845 is reputed to be a battery sipper, and another 500mah is another 500mah, so I'm hoping you're both right.
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Well you're that screenshot if mrjwilkiams posted above, didn't you!? So unless Android Central didn't do anything wrong, they should have gained the same at least.
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OGhoul said:
I agree for the most part, however Android Central is claiming they've had theirs for a week. On the flipside, a near 3500mah battery should be more than enough to go a day on a charge, even for a heavy user like myself. I mean, the Essential was the only Android phone that I can recall owning that would go a day for me, and it was only 3000mah. Sense is nearly as clean, the 845 is reputed to be a battery sipper, and another 500mah is another 500mah, so I'm hoping you're both right.
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Is the SD845 a battery sipper though? Most phones with it haven't had the best numbers. OP6 performs around the exact same as the 5T despite the newer processor. The S9/S9+ have worse numbers than the S8/S8+ with the same battery sizes. XZ2 has a larger battery than the XZ1 but the improvement in battery life is pretty much equal to the size increase. I think this is another bad snapdragon year in the making.
It could be Oreo though because my numbers went down as soon as my 10 got it. The whole story will develop as time passes.
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Well you're that screenshot if mrjwilkiams posted above, didn't you!? So unless Android Central didn't do anything wrong, they should have gained the same at least.
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It could be the that the Twitter user was a very light user, or used power saving before 15%. I'm trying to argue it, I'd really prefer his numbers to be the norm rather than the outlier.
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Is the SD845 a battery sipper though? Most phones with it haven't had the best numbers. OP6 performs around the exact same as the 5T despite the newer processor. The S9/S9+ have worse numbers than the S8/S8+ with the same battery sizes. XZ2 has a larger battery than the XZ1 but the improvement in battery life is pretty much equal to the size increase. I think this is another bad snapdragon year in the making.
It could be Oreo though because my numbers went down as soon as my 10 got it. The whole story will develop as time passes.
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I said the 845 is supposed to be a sipper. I don't have one (yet) to personally test. I believe if this year is another dud year for Qualcomm, this could spell disaster for HTC. I dunno about Oreo being the culprit (overall); my girlfriend got 8.1 on her Essential and she hasn't complained about battery life (and believe me, she'd let me know). My fingers are crossed though.
Make no mistake though, I really do want the U12+ to meet my (IMO) reasonable expectations.
This is my battery stats! 70% time on WiFi 30% LTE. Battery drain is unusually high on LTE. Location off unless required Bluetooth sync off.
This is my first personal stats. 60% Wi-Fi, 40% 4G, BT on all time with a Smartwatch connected.
Listened to some music via USonic ANC Headset, streaming a few videos, browsing, mailing, XDA of course. After the first 58 hours up-time (so this being only the second full run) I'm pretty impressed of what I got
24h, 5h SoT
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Important piece of information, do you guys use Always On Display?
I thought the u12 doesn't use that feature?
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Important piece of information, do you guys use Always On Display?
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Yes I do.
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RyuujiTakasu said:
I thought the u12 doesn't use that feature?
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It does use it. But I couldn't find the adjustments in the settings menu yet, thus are running the out of the box standard setup.
Edit: nevermind just been blind. Found it.
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Can you try use phone for full charge without that feature?Lets see battery difference, after all its LCD not AMOLED.
My unlocked Galaxy S9+ is currently at about 29% with around 1:37 screen on time.....
Out of the box
Start at 80%
Setup and play with everything
screen on 4 hours and 24 minutes.
Go to bed 23:45 battery 24%
Wake up 05:45 battery 23%
Battery life is great for me.
I no it has to settle .
Anyway very happy with the result till now.
Grtz decodertje
Actually, feels like battery life decreases after the first day of use. It's understandable because of added apps. I charge it from 20-30 up to 80-90 (battery health squad). It gives me 4 hours of screen-on time. And I charge the phone only once a day with heavy usage. The major factor is screen brightness which drains battery damn fast when over 50%
Pixel 6 battery life claims vary wildly — what's the truth?
Pixel 6 battery life reports range from great to terrible
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Pixel 6 battery life claims vary wildly — what's the truth?
By Sean Riley 29 October 2021
Pixel 6 battery life reports range from great to terrible
Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro
(Image credit: Laptop Mag/Sean Riley)
The Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro are drawing universally rave reviews, but one feature that is proving somewhat contentious is battery life.
We encountered this issue during our testing of both phones, which did not hold up well to our Laptop Mag battery test, but performed excellently in real-world usage. So we decided to take a closer look at reviews from a dozen tech sites along with those from YouTubers to get a better sense of the truth of Pixel 6 battery life.
Pixel 6 battery life is great
Engadget
Engadget's Cherylnn Low said in her review that the "Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro last incredibly long." In the site's video rundown test, the Pixel 6 had one of the longest times the site has ever recorded at 20 hours and 30 minutes, while the Pixel 6 Pro put up a very respectable 17:13. As for her more anecdotal real-world experience, Low indicated that the "Pixel 6 Pro typically stuck around longer than a day and I never stopped to think about charging it."
The Verge
The Verge's Dan Seifert was uniform in his praise of the battery life on the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro, saying that "both are easily able to cruise through a full day of use" and that "most nights I went to bed with 35-40 percent battery remaining...." He also noted that this was with extensive camera use and the always-on display feature active, and that he feels some users should be able to "stretch this to two days without much effort."
Pixel 6 Pro
Gizmodo
In Sam Rutherford's review of the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro for Gizmodo, he noted that both phones were impressive in their video rundown test and in real-world usage. For the latter, he said the "Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro routinely had 30% to 40% battery life in the tank at the end of the day...." In their video rundown test, the Pixel 6 had the second-longest result Gizmodo has ever seen at 18 hours and 56 minutes. Only the iPhone 13 Pro Max outlasted it at 19:30. The Pixel 6 Pro didn't fare quite as well in the video rundown, but at 16:45, it matched the Galaxy S21 Ultra.
Mashable
Mashable's Joseph Volpe similarly lavished praise on the real-world battery life of both phones calling it, "all-day-and-then-some battery life...." Volpe wrote that after a mix of "texting, Twitter scrolling, Slacking, photo-taking, and Chrome browsing)" for the day that both phones would typically end at around 35%.
Android Central
Android Central was slightly split on the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro battery with the reviewer for the Pixel 6 Pro, Nicholas Sutrich, considerably more impressed. He wasn't able to kill the battery in a day even pushing the Pixel 6 Pro with over an hour of camera use. He, too, believes users with lighter workloads should be able to get two days of usage. Ara Wagner, in her review of the Pixel 6, was more tempered with praise but still reported that she was left with 25-30% battery life after an average day with roughly 5.5 hours of screen on time.
Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro
Pixel 6 battery life is fine
CNET
CNET's reviews of the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro both landed on the battery for the phones being good, but not able to push beyond a single day of usage. In the Pixel 6 review, Patrick Holland said the battery was closer to lasting three-quarters of a day than a full day on a particularly heavy day of photo and video shooting. Andrew Hoyle put the Pixel 6 Pro as above average, but behind standouts like the iPhone 13 Pro.
Android Police
Android Police reviewers of the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro expressed hesitancy in inferring too much from just a week with the phone, but both deemed it to be "good." While changes to the battery life Settings menu in Android 12 have made it harder to track, Ryne Hager offered that he measured roughly 7 hours of screen-on time for the Pixel 6 Pro. Hager notes that low-light photography was a real killer for the Pixel 6 Pro, but concluded the phone's endurance was "pretty good."
Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro
TheUnlockr
David Cogen, a.k.a. TheUnlockr on YouTube, ruled that the battery life was "pretty good" in his testing. He dropped the Pixel 6 Pro to 2% battery remaining at 10:30 p.m. after starting the day at 9 a.m., but that was on a testing day that involved over an hour of camera usage and, as he notes, "not a normal day." On a less aggressive day of testing, he was able to coast through with about 20% remaining after starting the day slightly below 100%.
TechRadar
In TechRadar's reviews of the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro, both reviewers deemed the battery life to be adequate, but not outstanding. Each one got through a full day on a single charge, but not beyond. They considered it to be a weakness for the phone overall, but not to the degree that it should sway a purchasing decision.
9to5Google
Ben Schoon of 9to5Google settled on the Pixel 6 Pro battery life being solid for all-day performance but said it won't push much past that point. In testing, which was made more difficult by Android 12's new battery usage tracking, the phone only needed to top up on one day when it reached 20% by 8pm. Otherwise, he would typically end the day with just under 15% and also clarifies that this is during heavy use for his review.
Pixel 6
Pixel 6 battery life is bad
MKBHD
Marques Brownlee, a.k.a MKBHD, has been the harshest critic of the Pixel 6 and Pixel 6 Pro battery life. He reported seeing 3.5 to 4.5 hours of screen on time with the Pixel 6 Pro and less than that with the Pixel 6. This rated an "average at best" from Brownlee and he concluded this would be a phone that would be dead at the end of the day pretty often for him. He's more accepting of it on the Pixel 6, but concludes that "The battery situation for me has been overall kind of a bummer on the flagship."
Mr. Mobile
Michael Fisher, a.k.a MrMobile, mirrored MKBHD's thoughts, saying that "the only consistent low point...is battery life." He clarifies that it is a full-day phone, but that it is running low a lot earlier in the day than he would like. He also reiterates the same complaint of some of the others that Android 12's new power consumption makes it much harder to diagnose the culprit for the battery drain.
Nice. Marques telling us the truth!
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For the high SOT refuters, could you also post app usage statistics so they can compare why their SOT is so less when they get nothing but abysmal SOT on 5G with signal strength of 1 bar, 120 Hz at full brightness playing Genshin Impact on extreme graphics for only three hours straight?
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Nice. Marques telling us the truth!
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his version of the truth, it doesnt match my version of it
That's why standardized tests are imperative balancing out different versions of truth and help us gauge an average baseline battery performance number
Google Pixel 6 Pro review
Google is officially back. The Google Pixel 6 Pro is leagues ahead of its predecessors in hardware, software, and design with a brand-new set of camera...
www.gsmarena.com
miravision said:
That's why standardized tests are imperative balancing out different versions of truth and help us gauge an average baseline battery performance number
Google Pixel 6 Pro review
Google is officially back. The Google Pixel 6 Pro is leagues ahead of its predecessors in hardware, software, and design with a brand-new set of camera...
www.gsmarena.com
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third time youve posted this now in different threads. Do you really need to spam the forum with it
I've been having decent battery life so far
OtisFeelgood said:
I've been having decent battery life so far
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So what's decent for you? What did you vote on in the poll?
I'm not voting on this* as I know for sure that different usage gives different hours on a day-to-day basis. That said, I'm somewhere in the two best/longest categories and probably more to the best-est (technical term).
*I must remind everyone that mixing qualitative (the experience of) and quantitative (the number of) in the same options is questionable (<50%)
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So what's decent for you? What did you vote on in the poll?
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I chose the 2nd best option. I came from the S21 Ultra. I'd say they both were similar for me when it comes to battery life.
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I'm not voting on this* as I know for sure that different usage gives different hours on a day-to-day basis. That said, I'm somewhere in the two best/longest categories and probably more to the best-est (technical term).
*I must remind everyone that mixing qualitative (the experience of) and quantitative (the number of) in the same options is questionable (<50%)
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Yes someone's "okay" is another person's "great" and vice versa but I just went by the hours.
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third time youve posted this now in different threads. Do you really need to spam the forum with it
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It's relevant to the thread. It's the first time in this thread. The third time posting the same thing in different relevant threads over several days, not all at once - is not spamming. Less caffeine for you!
3.6*
Not great, not terrible.
*not talkin' 'bout hours
For me i got 5-6 for 24H Smooth Display On - AOD OFF
roirraW edor ehT said:
It's relevant to the thread. It's the first time in this thread. The third time posting the same thing in different relevant threads over several days, not all at once - is not spamming. Less caffeine for you!
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no, 3 times within 30 mins in 3 seperate threads IS spamming with the same link
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no, 3 times within 30 mins in 3 seperate threads IS spamming with the same link
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Care to make a third non-relevant post about it in a single thread in a single day?
skimminstones said:
care to stop being an idiot?
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Edit: You don't seem to be learning. I bet you calling me in idiot is actually in XDA's rules to not do, versus the other's posting the same thing in three relevant threads.
roirraW edor ehT said:
Care to make a third non-relevant post about it in a single thread in a single day?
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care to stop being an idiot?
Absolutely agree with MKBHD. People may say he is biased towards Apple but he is right this time. I am big Google Pixel series fan. I dont like iOS at all. I am using PIxel 6 Pro and I can tell you the sot i get is 4 to 4.5 hours with smooth display turned on. Mind you I am in a non-5G region and I dont play games at all. Imagine playing games on it as well and using 5G? The sot will surely come down crashing to below 4 hours for sure which is really bad for 5000 mAh battery phone. I use my phone with smooth display turned off and now I get 5.5 hours sot max. The battery life can be decent if you turn off 5G and Smooth display, but whats the point then if you have to compromise?
Just checked the usage and sum up my day:
16 hours total time since cable off.
3.5 hours screen on time (normal-light use, Firefox/FB/Twitter/Calls/SMS etc with some short videos)
45% battery is used. (drop from 85% to 41%)
The idle drop is ~ 2% per hour with ambient display always on, stock ROM, and "hey google" turn off.
Without gaming and heavy videos, it could easily go 8 hours screen-on-time for a whole day.