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Hi,
I trawled threads and guides before starting my upgrade from CM7 to CM9. Thought I had everything in order so set-off. Ended up in a bootloop when I was done. Managed to get the phone sort-of working by installing my previous CM7 zip. I installed just the CM9 file over that and it started working....to a point. It wouldn't take the ICS gapps but did take an older version which at least has my mail and contacts working but I can't get into Play and get regular errors for basic stuff, like clock etc.
I've tried what I can but am now plain stuck and could really do assistance. I'm comfortable with the install procedure (I think!) although realise now that I cocked up my back-up first time round. Have to live with that now. Just want to get to a functioning ICS install.
These are files running right now.
CM9-NIGHTLY-120329-Defy
gapps-20111128
Honestly can't remember which kernel is running now, and confused which should be running. 95% confident that mine is a red lense but never seen another to compare.
CM9_Kernel-signed
CM7_Kernel-signed
These gapps didn't seem to work.
gapps-ics-20120317-signed
gapps-ics-4.0.3-20111217
I'm UK based with a regular Defy. I followed the guide and links (also pulled files from elswhere when the probs kicked in) in here.....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386680
I have posted the problem in there but not sure it's the best place. I'll put a note in there to say I've started a thread. Don't want to upset anyone by double-posting!
Did I mention that I really could do with some guidance?!!!
Gobsheen said:
Hi,
I trawled threads and guides before starting my upgrade from CM7 to CM9. Thought I had everything in order so set-off. Ended up in a bootloop when I was done. Managed to get the phone sort-of working by installing my previous CM7 zip. I installed just the CM9 file over that and it started working....to a point. It wouldn't take the ICS gapps but did take an older version which at least has my mail and contacts working but I can't get into Play and get regular errors for basic stuff, like clock etc.
I've tried what I can but am now plain stuck and could really do assistance. I'm comfortable with the install procedure (I think!) although realise now that I cocked up my back-up first time round. Have to live with that now. Just want to get to a functioning ICS install.
These are files running right now.
CM9-NIGHTLY-120329-Defy
gapps-20111128
Honestly can't remember which kernel is running now, and confused which should be running. 95% confident that mine is a red lense but never seen another to compare.
CM9_Kernel-signed
CM7_Kernel-signed
These gapps didn't seem to work.
gapps-ics-20120317-signed
gapps-ics-4.0.3-20111217
I'm UK based with a regular Defy. I followed the guide and links (also pulled files from elswhere when the probs kicked in) in here.....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1386680
I have posted the problem in there but not sure it's the best place. I'll put a note in there to say I've started a thread. Don't want to upset anyone by double-posting!
Did I mention that I really could do with some guidance?!!!
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To install ICS from scratch first make a backup of evrything you would like to hae later and then refer to the below mentioned link and install ICS:
How To Flash ICS(Defy Builds)
1:Head Over To Stable recovery
2:Wipe Data
3:Install ZIp from SD Card
4:Select ICS(Defy) .zip
5:Flash
6:Flash CM7 Kernel
7:Clear Cache and Dalvik Cache
FIrst Boot will take some time...
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Ref: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
Hope this helps!!
Thanks,
I'll have a good look through that thread tonight. I thought the CM9 kernels were the right one for my red lense defy......?
Should I just leave installing the Gapps zip until after everything else is done? I assume using one of the ICS gapp files is fine?
I installed they Defy+ nightly by Quarx:
http://quarx2k.ru/cm9-nightly-defy+/CM9-NIGHTLY-120330-Defy+.zip
This should already contain the GB kernel right? I flashed it anyway, just to be sure.
I have the Red Lense Defy, it's detected as a Defy+ now and the camera works.
HOWEVER, i had to flash the 'Batter fix for Red Lense', see first post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432100
This actually caused me a few hours sweat, since i did not flash it at first and then thought my battery was dead. It went empty after an hour or so, and then there was this battery you see when it's charging when then phone is powered 'off', with a big question mark within the battery -- and it would not boot!
I could get into recovery, but once i unplugged it from the power cable it went off shorty after and i did not have the battery fix on the SD card. For some reason i was only able to enter recovery when the usb was only charging, once it was a 'data' connection it would not turn on or turn off quickly. If i turned off my laptop and used the offline charge feature it would power on, however i could not copy over any files I had no microSD -> SD adapter to use my SD card reader.
Finally, having it on power only, I started into the bootloader (power on + Vol+), which also said low power (more fear of a broken battery). After a minute or so, it terminated itself and began to boot CM9 flawlessly. I was able to copy the battery fix from my webserver onto the sdcard. Flashed it. Battery detected again and charging like it should *phew*
This should be stressed A LOT more in the HOWTOs, i was not able to post to the CM9 dev thread yet (<10 posts). Maybe someone can.
Besides all that, it runs really nice now. Overclocked it to 1.3GHz and lots of things run quite smoothly, can't wait for full HW-Acceleration
It worked!!!
Thanks for your help guys. Flashed it as a Defy+ and all seems fine. Pity my main sd card seems to have crapped out during the mess so hoping I'll be able to get my files off it. But, the phone works again!
Gobsheen said:
It worked!!!
Thanks for your help guys. Flashed it as a Defy+ and all seems fine. Pity my main sd card seems to have crapped out during the mess so hoping I'll be able to get my files off it. But, the phone works again!
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Congrats!!
You may use any data recovery software to retrieve the files ....
Thanks,
One thing I've noticed is that I've never had a 'H' signal since upgrading. It stays on 3G even in areas where I would have had a solid 'H' before. I double checked my APN & it's fine.
Any ideas?
I'm curious if anyone has ever had the same problems as me with aosp... (sorry if this is a thread already, I searched and couldn't find an answer.)
Any attempt to run ICS, cm7, or miui gives me the error message "process system is not responding" hitting force close does nothing bad, but the constant message is definitely annoying.
Going back to sense fixed the problem but isn't my ideal fix since I've been running all aosp since I got this phone.
Any ideas?
I would recomend partitioning your sd card... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158993 ,then install darktremors Apps2SD.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715938&highlight=Dark+Tremors+A2SD i will almost guarentee it will fix your problem also,try going to recovery/advanced/fix permissions.
is this right off the bat? like fresh boot or are you installing stuff then getting this? maybe some more details that you can think of would spark some ideas on how to solve your issue cuz man that sucks ... i <3 aosp i dont know how long i could really go without it
It's always right out of the gate. Never a wipe problem since I make sure to wipe everything possible, even tried a different battery and sd card. I use darktremors all the time now, but I can't remember if that was the case while using cm7's native app to sd. I'll give it a try.
Sorry for putting this here, but do not have enough posts to reply to the official thread over in development forum.
I did a clean install of TOB after rerooting, getting S-off and downgrading to froyo then upgrading it back to gingerbread while retaining S-off. Seems I had to get S-off for custom roms to work correctly when verizon sent me a new phone due to the 2am loop boot happening every night for a week even doing a full wipe/factory reset.(they know it is a known issue and sent me a new phone as mine wouldnt stop looping. I installed the last RUU available to take it back to stock and it still did it.
Walked in the bedroom this morning and the softkeys lights were on, figured I had gotten a notification or update or something. Watched it for a few, when it went to the TOB boot animation. would get loaded to home screen, then the loading animation would start again, happened continuously over a 30 minute time frame before I finally pulled the battery to get it to stop. tried to use the phone as it loaded and it started to do it again. Going to attempt to get into recovery and fix permissions, format data/cache, and see if that fixes it.
Anyone else having that problem?
Also are there any mods like the older stock+ that wont show the darned nag screen about there being an update available?
Thank you in advance for any advice/help.
devnulled
Also wanted to ask if the verizaon backup assistant is/can be fixed? it FC's whenever I try to load it. When I try to sync contacts on the VZW website I get a few texts with junk characters but no more contacts. Already did a fix permissions in CWM recovery, and through CWM itself. Thanks again for your help. Will update if anything Ive done fixes the problems.
Devnulled
devnulled said:
Sorry for putting this here, but do not have enough posts to reply to the official thread over in development forum.
I did a clean install of TOB after rerooting, getting S-off and downgrading to froyo then upgrading it back to gingerbread while retaining S-off. Seems I had to get S-off for custom roms to work correctly when verizon sent me a new phone due to the 2am loop boot happening every night for a week even doing a full wipe/factory reset.(they know it is a known issue and sent me a new phone as mine wouldnt stop looping. I installed the last RUU available to take it back to stock and it still did it.
Walked in the bedroom this morning and the softkeys lights were on, figured I had gotten a notification or update or something. Watched it for a few, when it went to the TOB boot animation. would get loaded to home screen, then the loading animation would start again, happened continuously over a 30 minute time frame before I finally pulled the battery to get it to stop. tried to use the phone as it loaded and it started to do it again. Going to attempt to get into recovery and fix permissions, format data/cache, and see if that fixes it.
Anyone else having that problem?
Also are there any mods like the older stock+ that wont show the darned nag screen about there being an update available?
Thank you in advance for any advice/help.
devnulled
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The 2am reboots are not a phone issue, it is a known issue with the latest ota. I cant believe they would rather give you a new phone than to admit they sent out a messed up ota.
Try fixing permissions and wiping data as you said.
If 2.2 is installed you should not get a nag to update, as its based on the latest ota.
devnulled said:
Also wanted to ask if the verizaon backup assistant is/can be fixed? it FC's whenever I try to load it. When I try to sync contacts on the VZW website I get a few texts with junk characters but no more contacts. Already did a fix permissions in CWM recovery, and through CWM itself. Thanks again for your help. Will update if anything Ive done fixes the problems.
Devnulled
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Vzw backup was removed from the rom as most people dont use it. If you want it back, flash this http://dinc.does-it.net/APKs/VZW_Backup.zip, thru recovery.
Thank you cmlusco,
clearing cache and fixing permissions has fixed it, sorry for saying there was a problem. Verizon almost got back 3 phones (an eris that i was given, my old palm pre plus, and my incredible) at the same time with a certified letter having me cancel my contract 6 months early when the phone started rebooting back around the 4th of july. They replaced it last summer/fall when they rolled out gingerbread and my phone got half of it installed when it locked up and would not finish the update but was enough there to lock it from being fixed by ruu even.
I agree that it was not the phone, I told tech support I had it rooted for different skins and roms and to fix buggy software and they suddenly wanted to send out a new phone under warranty. I think they just wanted to get out a phone that was a little harder to root and get s-off rather than fix what was obviously a software bug issue. the new phone was supposed to be fully updated, but it wasnt installed, was still on the prior OTA and had a helluva time getting it to accept a custom recovery to begin with. Would goto the white HTC screen, then flash once or twice and go black with white bars down each side. took 3x to get it to accept it and ended up having to flash an older version first .92 i think (was 3 weeks ago now).
I will flash the backup software this time as my contacts were all edited on the website. Thank you again for the best rom Ive played with in a long time.
(forgot to add when I asked about the mods, I meant in a stock rooted rom that was similar to the old stock+ in use/appearance, but didnt get a nag screen, not that touch of blue did not have it. sorry for the confusion)
devnulled
Apologies for resurrecting an old thread, but I'm experiencing this issue too.
Getting overnight boot loops on Touch Of Blue 2.2.
I can temporarily fix it by booting to recovery, then wiping cache and dalvik cache.
Unfortunately, this is a daily ritual since updating from Stock+
I wiped our phones per rom install instructions ("Wipe dalvik-cache and format everything in the mounts and storage menu except emmc and sdcard before flashing."), so I'm not sure what's going on.
Seems to correlate with any 'pushed' updates from the Google Play store, but that's just my personal observation...
Any new developments (or permanent resolutions) on this issue since it was reported before?
dibmem said:
Apologies for resurrecting an old thread, but I'm experiencing this issue too.
Getting overnight boot loops on Touch Of Blue 2.2.
I can temporarily fix it by booting to recovery, then wiping cache and dalvik cache.
Unfortunately, this is a daily ritual since updating from Stock+
I wiped our phones per rom install instructions ("Wipe dalvik-cache and format everything in the mounts and storage menu except emmc and sdcard before flashing."), so I'm not sure what's going on.
Seems to correlate with any 'pushed' updates from the Google Play store, but that's just my personal observation...
Any new developments (or permanent resolutions) on this issue since it was reported before?
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No i looked into it, but couldnt figure out what was causing it. Tob is my daily driver and for some reason i have never gotten these reboots. It must have to do with a stock app that i have removed or something. Mabey gmail, i always remove that as i use maildroid. Wish i could be more help, i will install fresh and not remove anythimg and see if i get the reboots. Then it will be easier for me to trouble shoot.
cmlusco said:
No i looked into it, but couldnt figure out what was causing it. Tob is my daily driver and for some reason i have never gotten these reboots. It must have to do with a stock app that i have removed or something. Mabey gmail, i always remove that as i use maildroid. Wish i could be more help, i will install fresh and not remove anythimg and see if i get the reboots. Then it will be easier for me to trouble shoot.
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Thanks for the reply... I wonder what's doing the damage - The dedicated Gmail isn't on my phone. My wife is running TOB as well with the same symptoms. She runs a lot more apps than I do and we were looking for the ext4 fix when I found TOB.
Maybe it's another app? Let me know if you want a list...
Planning to load your rooted stock this weekend and see how things go.
If, in the meantime, you need a guinea pig for any possible fixes, let me know - I don't mind installing stuff via recovery. I'm a little rusty on adb, but I could do that as well.
dibmem said:
Thanks for the reply! I saw your rooted stock build - Most likely will go with that.
I wonder what's doing the damage - I could pull Gmail off for the evening and see if mine is stable. My wife is running TOB as well with the same symptoms. We were looking for the ext4 fix when I found TOB.
If pulling Gmail doesn't work - I'll load your rooted stock and see how things go.
If you need a guinea pig for any possible fixes, let me know - I don't mind installing stuff via recovery. I'm a little rusty on adb, but I could do that as well.
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You can just flash back to tob 1.3. Same thing just not based on 4.08.605.15. Still has all the same features and look.
cmlusco said:
You can just flash back to tob 1.3. Same thing just not based on 4.08.605.15. Still has all the same features and look.
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Can I flash that build directly over 2.2 or do I need to do a full wipe beforehand?
dibmem said:
Can I flash that build directly over 2.2 or do I need to do a full wipe beforehand?
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Just wipe dalvik-cache and the cache partition and flash over. I have done it before and had no issues. That being said, if stuff starts acting goofy you may need to wipe and flash from scratch.
cmlusco said:
Just wipe dalvik-cache and the cache partition and flash over. I have done it before and had no issues. That being said, if stuff starts acting goofy you may need to wipe and flash from scratch.
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Loaded 1.3 per your instructions. Also flashed the stop OTA and stock unlock patches. All is well this morning. No symptoms of a reboot present.
Observations: I noticed when I updated my phone, upon reboot, it wanted to immediately update various software in Google Play.
Perhaps the whole lockup / reboot issue is directly related to how the market pulls down updates(?)... On 2.2, I was doing a morning ritual: I would install market app updates, boot to recovery and do the following: Wipe cache, then dalvik cache. (Last couple of days, I ran 'fix permissions' as well). The process, albeit slightly tedious, worked with varying success - yesterday, it took a few TOB boot screen boots before the phones were stable (wife and mine).
Today, all seems to be fine. After installing 1.3, I did all my updates last night - nothing new pulled down in the market for me.
My wife's phone had one pending update that I left to see if the phone was stable overnight - Still there this morning. So, no 2 am reboot.
Hope this helps with development in some way.
Thanks much for your help and input - I'll keep an eye out for a future build of TOB for problem child phones.
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cmlusco said:
Just wipe dalvik-cache and the cache partition and flash over. I have done it before and had no issues. That being said, if stuff starts acting goofy you may need to wipe and flash from scratch.
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Any pointers on upgrading the radio? Currently on 2.15.00.07.28
(Not in a rush - I see there's a few warnings on bricking your phone - unfounded or true?)
dibmem said:
Loaded 1.3 per your instructions. Also flashed the stop OTA and stock unlock patches. All is well this morning. No symptoms of a reboot present.
Observations: I noticed when I updated my phone, upon reboot, it wanted to immediately update various software in Google Play.
Perhaps the whole lockup / reboot issue is directly related to how the market pulls down updates(?)... On 2.2, I was doing a morning ritual: I would install market app updates, boot to recovery and do the following: Wipe cache, then dalvik cache. (Last couple of days, I ran 'fix permissions' as well). The process, albeit slightly tedious, worked with varying success - yesterday, it took a few TOB boot screen boots before the phones were stable (wife and mine).
Today, all seems to be fine. After installing 1.3, I did all my updates last night - nothing new pulled down in the market for me.
My wife's phone had one pending update that I left to see if the phone was stable overnight - Still there this morning. So, no 2 am reboot.
Hope this helps with development in some way.
Thanks much for your help and input - I'll keep an eye out for a future build of TOB for problem child phones.
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Any pointers on upgrading the radio? Currently on 2.15.00.07.28
(Not in a rush - I see there's a few warnings on bricking your phone - unfounded or true?)
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If your s-off you can flash just the radio thru hboot. If s-on you would have to do a whole ruu in order to upgrade it. A bad radio flash can brick a phone. That being said, i have done it many many times with no issues. Just make sure to verrify the md5 sum, and never interrupt or run out of juice while flashing.
cmlusco said:
If your s-off you can flash just the radio thru hboot. If s-on you would have to do a whole ruu in order to upgrade it. A bad radio flash can brick a phone. That being said, i have done it many many times with no issues. Just make sure to verrify the md5 sum, and never interrupt or run out of juice while flashing.
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Results post: Ended up flashing TOB 1.3, radio 2.15.10.12.20, and CMW 5.0.2.0. Updating the radio via hboot ended up being very easy (as long as I verified md5 beforehand.) Our phones are stable overnight - no reboots. Signal sucks here at home, but seems to be slightly better - hopefully will be better around town. If not, there's plenty of other radio versions to try out.
So I'm running into a wall on this.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.square_enix.ff7g_bike Updated a week ago to 1.2.0, and prior to that it would run fine (if a bit laggy at times). But since installing the update (required to play) it won't run. I'll tap on the icon, it'll load and show in the background with other running apps, but just won't run proper? I even updated to Android 4.4.4 cm-11-20141112-SNAPSHOT-M12-d2lte, from 4.4.2), used the Triangle Away app to reset things so the phone wouldn't appear to be custom/flashed, and still doesn't work.
I tested the update on a friend's S4 (un-rooted) and haven't had the same issue.
Is my phone (SGH-T999) just too old/no longer supported? The S3 is still on the device list: http://help.finalfantasy7-gbike.com/model but perhaps it wasn't updated.
So the last update to 1.4.0 at the end of April took care of the problem, which was great.
However..... they've updated to 1.5.0 today, and I'm experiencing the same exact problem I had prior to that update.
I don't know what to do, if there's anything that CAN be done.
Help, please.
Probably because you are using an aftermarket rom. Only thing I can suggest is to use a TouchWiz rom, or update cm. That zip is extremely old. Try the latest nightly. In case you didn't know, cm12 is available for the s3 under d2tmo in case you want to try it
It's possible.... so far unrooted/stock-rom devices are fine. However my friend let me root their S4 and that didn't cause an issue.
As for updating CM, I'll give that a try. I hadn't checked since March (and CM updater didn't give me any indications of a newer version oddly).
*edit* Ok I used TWRP 2.8.6.0 and updated to cm-12.1-20150614-NIGHTLY-d2tmo (along with gapps-5.1-2015-04-20-15-56-24), during the "Android is upgrading" screen (after a very long time on the CM splash) the phone rebooted.... currently back on CM splash screen... will edit in more details once beyond that screen.
*edit2* Past the CM splash, on "Android is starting".... optimizing apps 3 of 108.... and again with reboot.
*edit3* Again at "Android is starting" now optimizing app 198 of 199.... *fingers crossed*
*edit4* Finishing boot.... ok looks like I need to use a newer gapps... ok, updated to gapps-5.1-2015-06-02-15-19...
*edit5* Well everything appears to be working.... though the G-Bike game still won't load once updated to 1.5.0... it does at least switch to the horizontal position and the screen goes dark longer before returning to the homescreen... but that's about it. :crying::crying: Switching to TouchWiz may have no change either, correct?
*edit6* I've always used the default messaging app, but when I opened it it's seemingly stuck on "loading conversations", I read elsewhere that it may take a very long time to load if you have a lot of texts... which I guess given that one contact has 4,000+ texts saved in that thread, perhaps it's just a matter of time before all previous texts load?
A rooted rom shouldn't affect it. I mean aftermarket like cm or aosp. It could work fine on TouchWiz, especially since it's listed as a supported device. Yes, texts may take long time to load if you have many
Texts finally did load. I'm about to install CM on the S4, to see if the game no longer loads then. If that's the case, then I'll switch to TW on my S3 and hope that the game works afterwards.
Unfortunately I'm under a bit of some time constraint, the 1.5.0 update was for an event to gain a new support character, and that ends in exactly 1hr....
Given the time-frame, is there a "quick & easy" method to flash a TW rom without having to do various app data backups/nandroid backup (I will have to factory wipe, yes?), and not lose much/any data? I unfortunately don't have a high capacity SD Card (4GB, my 64GB one in the S3 stopped allowing write access a few days ago, seems to be an issue with that particular card), and 4GB isn't nearly enough to backup everything from the S3 to SD.
*edit* Well well..... 1.5.0 will not run on the CM rom on the S4!
You can back up to your internal memory. As long as you factory reset with custom recovery, you won't lose anything stored on it, except apps and settings
Great! One further question, is there any possibility that by switching ROMs, the game might think I'm on a different phone/new user (and if so, is there a way to fix this?)? Despite all the un/re-installs, I've never lost my progress most likely due to it being saved on their servers... but I'd hate to appear as a new user and lose month's worth of progress.
Yeah there's always that possibility. That's why you should always back up your apps with data so you can restore it in case
Thanks again. I wish I knew exactly what was being changed from version to version, that makes the game not work on an aftermarket rom. If it never worked from the beginning, that'd be one thing... but it's a yes/no/no/yes/no type of deal here. Shame I can't just take what works in the 1.4.0 version and compile it into the 1.5.0 ver... Or figure out what it's checking, and make it think it's a stock rom instead.
So I recently found an old Galaxy SII Epic 4G Touch lying around and I thought I would play around with it a little bit.
Little did I know it was gonna be a complete hell
So in all of the confusion of simply not being able to flash whatever the heck I wanted (since the kernel and recovery are apparently both within one monolithic binary), I have now run into a different issue.
So, on this phone so far, I have somehow managed to crash, break, and soft brick my way into successfully installing CyanogenMod 11 (4.4.4 KitKat), CWM 6.0.5.1(I think yeah totally), and the pico loadout for 4.4.4 gapps. I reeeaaally enjoy taking these phones that manufacturers destroy with preloaded launchers, bloat, etc. and fixing them up nice to look like they just rolled off the Google showroom with a fresh installs of all stock gapps, and silky smooth android. But here's where my issue comes in. I spent the good part of today just looking for a full gapps package with all stock gapps that would work on this thing. I sifted through unsafe websites, dead links, and throughout (what i think is) most of this forum to find something that would work, but couldn't. Thought it was issues with not being able to install PA packages onto Cyanogenmod. But that wasn't my issue. (the recovery kicked out error after error each time I tried. So it was an issue for sure. I realize that. Just not the issue I want to solve here and now) So then, I decided to simply run another factory reset, do another fresh install of the OS, and cave in, and use the nano app package. This package was the only one to give me some kind of response. It essentially said that my /system/ partition was too small to accept all of the apps on it. And then it dawned on me. The internal storage on this phone is separated into 2 partitions. 16gb. 1.97gb for system use, and the rest for downloaded apps, media, etc.etc. . I want to know if there is a process - for this phone specifically - to merge those two partitions together so that I can get a stock looking gapps install on this guy. I don't plan on using this phone for anything in particular. Just doing this for fun.
Anyone got any answers? I've seen similar situations floating around here and other places with other devices. And it's doable(????????), but all of the methods shown are for those specific devices, and I would rather not try and replicate them here if somehow something is critically different.
Thanks for any response at all. Seriously. If it's just to tell me I'm a big stupid and this won't and can't work, I will still appreciate it.