Reflash the knox bootloader maybe? - Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Im on the official 4.3 stock rom. Did the cf auto root and tripped the knox bit.
The thing is in TWRP recovery you can nandroid backup of current rom and asked me what to backup featuring bootloader modem efs etc. And can restore back what was backed up before
I was wondering if someone still in 4,1,2 bootloader with rom too can makae nandroid back for us to try to flash with the old bootloader. Maybe we can overwrite the bootloader like nothing happened?
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hey man, don't bother your self,i tried this one before but no result, i have been searching for 1 week to find a trick to get rid of the Knox bootloader and the avoid status in download mod but nothing help, even now my phone does not accept any rom with mj5 bootloader!

I heard that i cant do ota updates if the knox is tripped, is that true?
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Hello guys as far as I know nandroid backup does not contain bootloader, to flash a bootloader it must be done by odin I think, there is a link I will get it for you by dr keton the great on how to down grade the bootloader but I am not sure if it will work or not with triggered knox (I think it should work as what is the use then)
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mezo91 said:
I heard that i cant do ota updates if the knox is tripped, is that true?
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You can its only voids warranty from Samsung...
By the in service center they don't check aur complaints regarding this I got my phone repaired 4 to 5 times after tripping knox..☺
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mezo91 said:
Im on the official 4.3 stock rom. Did the cf auto root and tripped the knox bit.
The thing is in TWRP recovery you can nandroid backup of current rom and asked me what to backup featuring bootloader modem efs etc. And can restore back what was backed up before
I was wondering if someone still in 4,1,2 bootloader with rom too can makae nandroid back for us to try to flash with the old bootloader. Maybe we can overwrite the bootloader like nothing happened?
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Backup boot option in the recovery generally means the kernel.
Kernels are named boot.img generally.
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mezo91 said:
Im on the official 4.3 stock rom. Did the cf auto root and tripped the knox bit.
The thing is in TWRP recovery you can nandroid backup of current rom and asked me what to backup featuring bootloader modem efs etc. And can restore back what was backed up before
I was wondering if someone still in 4,1,2 bootloader with rom too can makae nandroid back for us to try to flash with the old bootloader. Maybe we can overwrite the bootloader like nothing happened?
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I think you can downgrade the bootloader using this.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089353
However this thread was originally made for 4.1.2 bootloaders. Not sure if it works on knox bootloader.
It uses adb so I guess it should work.
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Hello guys, I am on ine of the latest 4.3 bootloaders, I searched for how to downgrade the only way was by doc keton using 4.3 mj5 leaked version, but even this did not work cause my smart ass bootloader detected it as an unsupported version too, I simply went to samsung the guys there was very nice they downgraded my phone in 10 min on stock 4.1.2 rom with old bootloader it js like I just boot the phone, so y does not our developers figure this out cause knox is no e-fuse and samsung know how to downgrade it
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aelsakka said:
Hello guys, I am on ine of the latest 4.3 bootloaders, I searched for how to downgrade the only way was by doc keton using 4.3 mj5 leaked version, but even this did not work cause my smart ass bootloader detected it as an unsupported version too, I simply went to samsung the guys there was very nice they downgraded my phone in 10 min on stock 4.1.2 rom with old bootloader it js like I just boot the phone, so y does not our developers figure this out cause knox is no e-fuse and samsung know how to downgrade it
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1. Doc keton?
2. The knox security is a multi layer security. Though perhaps it is a software instead of efuse, it won't be as easy as flip ur palms.
3. Samsung may easily boot back ur phone, coz they have the tools (either software/hardware). So, it might look easy on u / whoever have experienced the same thing like u.
4. The dev here most of them are part time d3vs who just do this for hobbies on their spare time. And there's a bounty thread for this knox. My last read is around $3.1, and unclaimed.
5. Be patient mate.
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antique_sonic said:
1. Doc keton?
2. The knox security is a multi layer security. Though perhaps it is a software instead of efuse, it won't be as easy as flip ur palms.
3. Samsung may easily boot back ur phone, coz they have the tools (either software/hardware). So, it might look easy on u / whoever have experienced the same thing like u.
4. The dev here most of them are part time d3vs who just do this for hobbies on their spare time. And there's a bounty thread for this knox. My last read is around $3.1, and unclaimed.
5. Be patient mate.
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I meant dr ketan sorry am not rushing our great developers here they are doing enough already, I already got mine done, I also to confirm on the dear members here that it is doable and it is only software not efuse, so we should get it eventually.
Thanks for your time mate.
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UNROOT sgh-t999v

i need to unroot my s3 for warranty purposes but i cannot find proper procedures for the the model sgh-t999v..
i have 2 questions,
1. can i just root a stock rom for sgh-t999 to my sgh-t999v?
2. anyone have the procedures to unroot my sgh-t999v
thanks
Flash a stock rooted Rom. T-Mobile one. That seems to be ok as long as you don't flash a T-Mobile radio.
Not sure if triangle away works on the Canadian version.
Maybe someone else has tried it.
All I had to do to return my last one was flash a stock rooted Rom.
I don't think they check the flash counter
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If the Rom has some T-Mobile bloat left on it get it off there.
Hide superuser in a folder
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Thanks, ill try it tonight
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Or you can download the actual fw for your device. You will have to register but its no big deal.
Www.sammobile.com/firmware
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WE WILL NEVER FORGET!!!
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I can see you have a Videotron Galaxy S3. They don't check the flash counter. Let's just say I know this "by experience". As long as it's just rooted and you don't have any custom ROM, you should be fine. But indeed if you can at least hide the SU app it would be a good thing.
You could also perform a factory reset in CWM prior to going to the store, as they will make you do it anyways (and you actually don't want them to see the CWM screen)prior to any exchange. It's company policy.
lightpsycho said:
I can see you have a Videotron Galaxy S3. They don't check the flash counter. Let's just say I know this "by experience". As long as it's just rooted and you don't have any custom ROM, you should be fine. But indeed if you can at least hide the SU app it would be a good thing.
You could also perform a factory reset in CWM prior to going to the store, as they will make you do it anyways (and you actually don't want them to see the CWM screen)prior to any exchange. It's company policy.
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It's still probably safer to just use Triangle Away to get rid of the flash counter
Triangle away? Please explain
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yukuansu said:
Triangle away? Please explain
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Heres everything to know about triangle away, it resets the flash counter...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
Jake
T-Mobile & SGH-T999V
Hi,
Can we use the T-Mobile stock recovery on SGH-T999V?
flyerspat said:
Hi,
Can we use the T-Mobile stock recovery on SGH-T999V?
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If your trying to go back to stock, just download the stock rom from sammobile, it has everything you need like stock recovery, and then just flash it via odin.
htc fan89 said:
If your trying to go back to stock, just download the stock rom from sammobile, it has everything you need like stock recovery, and then just flash it via odin.
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Hi,
The only downloads availables are the firmwares, does it include the stock recovery in it?
flyerspat said:
Hi,
The only downloads availables are the firmwares, does it include the stock recovery in it?
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Yes it should be the full fw which includes radio, recovery and more.
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Thanks!
I'll test it tonight, wouldn't look good to download a 700 mb file at work!
I tried a few firmwares, but for some reason they all said "unsupport dev_type" when trying to use odin to return to stock non root (from stock rooted) In the end, the easiest way to remove root was to just let Kies update my gs3 to Jelly Bean (sgh-t999v). Painless, no data loss, took about 30 minutes with the firmware download.
Good luck
You will likely also want to triangle away. I won't link because it's extremely dangerous software that requires you to read up on the risks.
But that will reset your custom flashes assuming you have some on your counter you can check easily by going into download mode.
i recently lost my stock rom backup.. deleted it off clockworkmod touch by accident, so i only have the cm10.1 nightly i was running when i deleted it.. now i'm assuming i will lose root if i flash the stock firmware through odin? is there another way to get my stock rom back without losing root (and cyanogenmod rom backups)?
hey guys im having trouble with triangle away on my sgh-t999v with the baseband version: T999VVLUFNF1
after I used triangle away and I go into download mode it says:
current binary: Samsung Official
System status: official
qualcomm secureboot:enable
Warranty Bit:1
Bootloader AP SWAEV: 2
Although the current binary and the system status have changed the warranty bit is still at 1
Please help!
There is no way (and never will be a way) to change the Warranty Bit. Sorry
DocHoliday77 said:
There is no way (and never will be a way) to change the Warranty Bit. Sorry
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I guess im screwed for warranty..I thought it might be cuz I have a custom kernal installed that triangle away didnt work..but thanks anyway and sorry about posting in multiple threads, im kinda new to this
No problem, thats why i mention it, so you know for the future.
Tecnically, with the warranty bit tripped, the warranty is void. However, i have seen a lot of posts where people sent it in anyway and their warranty was still honored. Its not a guarantee, but there is hope it can be used if needed. The good thing though, is you most likely will never need to use it anyway!

Samsung exynos chip, Exploit, Patch, Exynose abuse Chainfire, Root/Unroot, Mob Odin.!

hi
i have been reading a lot about exynos chip problems etc and came to realize exynos abuse app which many recommend from chainfire is the easiest way to root and unroot phone. not only that it gapes the holes for nasty viruses to intrude the exynos chip. but one thing i am not sure what chain fire says in his discription about exynos app is---
Also note that if use the patch method without rooting, or keep patching the exploit at boot enabled when unrooting, you need an alternate method to re-root the device to disable this feature (like CF-Auto-Root) - you cannot use ExynosAbuse to do this since it patched the exploit. Unlike other patch authors, I do not believe in keeping an invisible rooted process running in the background while pretending you aren't rooted, to be able to unpatch this way
Also i saw pics of exynos app photos on 1 of the forums, in one of the photos it says under Unroot device option- keep the patch which disables the exploit at boot in place. note that this will prevent from using exynos abuse app again..
I do understand there is some sort of exploit which we are patching using this app apart from rooting the phone just to stop those nasty viruses. and if we unroot the phone the patch will stay in place at every boot on the exploit so if we have to root again we have to use other method like cf auto root etc..
can anyone kindly shed some light on what exploit is and what is the limitation and advantage of exynos abuse app.
thanks..
Further explanation, clarification.. and a small question and open discussion.
Hi,
Since no one replied to my question i did more reading and youtube videos etc and gained a bit of knowledge from dr.ketan too and thought to share my knowledge and PLS DO CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG. And feel free to add more comments.
There is sudden death syndrome in s3, note 2. All exynos samsung processors on 4.1.1 are affected. The phone suddenly dies without any reason. Not only that there is serious security hole where any app can gain user information. These both fixes are supposedly fixed in 4.1.2.
But chainfire came out with a great apk app which you can install as a normal app on phone which roots, unroots phone in one click and not only that it plugs the hole which was letting malicious apps in. But exynoseabuse doesnt take care of SDS (sudden death syndrome) and it only works on 4.1.1 and doesnt work on firmwares LL7 after jan 2013
There is option of pluging the hole without rooting the phone but if you patch exploit (plug the hole) without rooting you cannot use this particular app to root your phone - you have to use other methods of rooting like cf auto root etc
On the other hand, If you decide to root your phone you can disable exploit (plug the hole) just by one click or you have the option of disabling the exploit every time you reboot the phone. so the app will patch the hole before any other normal android app runs.
Then if you decide to ever unroot the phone or send it away for warranty just click unroot device..
This is here where i am bit confused IF we unroot the phone the patch remains there.? is there a way to remove the patch as well while unrooting so that there are no traces of patching or rooting etc and can use this app patch again.?
Also if we dont flash cwm, we can flash custom firmwares using mobile odin right and if we are sending it for warranty just flash a stock firmware in odin and it will be all good.? NO triangle or flash counter reset etc..?
Jay_Nz said:
This is here where i am bit confused IF we unroot the phone the patch remains there.? is there a way to remove the patch as well while unrooting so that there are no traces of patching or rooting etc and can use this app patch again.?
Also if we dont flash cwm, we can flash custom firmwares using mobile odin right and if we are sending it for warranty just flash a stock firmware in odin and it will be all good.? NO triangle or flash counter reset etc..?
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There is option to disable exploit in application, selecting that you closing security hole. is that clear?
Now if you unroot your device with selecting that option, still patch will remain there
If you don't select(uncheck) that option and then you unroot, patch won't be there
if you flash any stock ROM, that will erase all the patches you applied manually with exynose app including root.
O God Dr. Ketan you are full of knowledge and a kind man and you help all the time. Highly appreciated again.
Yes I do understand the concept fully now.
So if we uncheck both disable exploit options and unroot it removes patch as well unroots right. So that means we can root again using same app.?
On the other hand if we don't uncheck those disable exploit and unroot the patch stays there and we can't use exynosabuse app again to root. .. right. ?
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exactly
b'coz you needs root to patch/unpatch
BTW i advised you to post queries in Q/A section not on development.
It basically started as my partially acquired knowledge sharing and open discussion thread but it turned to question and answer thread due to small confusion I had. I will change it to q and a thread tomorrow.
So with this root option we can still Flash any custom roms easily using mobile or pc odin but we won't have feature rich root to use things like nandroid backuo and restore because we don't have cwm. And if we have to send for warranty just flash stock rom and its all official and we don't even have to run triangle away etc as flashing stock ROM will take care of everything. ?
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Morning doc. i wanted to delete this thread as you pointed out it is in development section. just realized it cant be deleted as we need to contact mod to delete it secondly i checked and it is in ques and ans section anyway so its all good. i have used exynos abuse app and rooted, unrooted twice and i will share a bit about it today some time. will jot down things in a newbie clear way so that in future if some one needs help they can read post and be clear about it.
Thanks for being actively involved and helpful all the time.
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dr.ketan said:
exactly
b'coz you needs root to patch/unpatch
BTW i advised you to post queries in Q/A section not on development.
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Seems you figured it out, but note that the Sds and enyxos security hole is two different things. Also, both of these are patched in any actively maintained kernel or rom on xda by now.
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Yes thanks to dr.ketan and others I understand the concept now. Have lefy this thread for further open discussion now. One thing I am still not clear about is cos I dont have cwm as I rooted with exynosabuse app so dows that mean I cant flash custom roms like omega rom etc using mobile odin. ?
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You can use mobile Odin without cwm, no worries.
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Thanks for reply. if mobile odin, exynoseabuse is easiet method to flash custom rom and root/unroot, then why people go for CWM.? Where does the importance of CWM comes in play.? What does it do or give.?
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adytum said:
You can use mobile Odin without cwm, no worries.
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exynose abuse won't work on latest ROM.
CWM have option to Nandroid backup
some CWM having touch GUI as well option to backup/restore EFS,kernel,recovery and more
you can read this thraed OP for more detail function of it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028103
Mobile odin is just flasher, you can flash any file in .bin/img/tar/flashable zip as well while flashing it can inject superSU to keep root intact.
you can't compare both, as both having its own function as well limitation.
you are saying to flash zip file is just common feature available in both, though once can't replace others because of other features.
Hmmm,
Exynos abuse works on my 4.1.1 though. clearly it wont work on 4.1.2 stock roms though.
So if i rooted my phone with exynos abuse which is on 4.1.1 and want to flash omega rom i cant do it with mobile odin.? if i can, then for some reason need to go back to stock for recovery i can easily and use triangle away if needed to..?
thanks
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dr.ketan said:
exynose abuse won't work on latest ROM.
CWM have option to Nandroid backup
some CWM having touch GUI as well option to backup/restore EFS,kernel,recovery and more
you can read this thraed OP for more detail function of it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028103
Mobile odin is just flasher, you can flash any file in .bin/img/tar/flashable zip as well while flashing it can inject superSU to keep root intact.
you can't compare both, as both having its own function as well limitation.
you are saying to flash zip file is just common feature available in both, though once can't replace others because of other features.
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Jay_Nz said:
1.So if i rooted my phone with exynos abuse which is on 4.1.1 and want to flash omega rom i cant do it with mobile odin.?
2. if i can, then for some reason need to go back to stock for recovery i can easily and use triangle away if needed to..?
thanks
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1.yes
2.you can flash stock rom with odin (pc /mobile) and can use triangle away (needs root)
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So for me to use omega rom I must have cwm. Means I can't install omega or any other custom rom using mobile odin on my exynosabuse rooted app phone.?
Its just you said I can't use mobile odin and other user urkashgupta said I can install custom roms just use mobile odin without having cwm.
2 people 2 different opinions so it's confusing
dr.ketan said:
1.yes
2.you can flash stock rom with odin (pc /mobile) and can use triangle away (needs root)
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Where I said you can't use mobile odin to flash custom rom?
Just read above post, i can read YES in first reply
Of course you can
You asked
Jay_Nz said:
So if i rooted my phone with exynos abuse which is on 4.1.1 and want to flash omega rom i cant do it with mobile odin.?
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I replied with YES
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hi ketan,
i think slight misunderstanding in my question. my question said :"and want to flash omega rom i cant do it with mobile odin?- to that you said yes.
so i thought you said yes i cant .. but its all good so you say i can use mobile odin to flash omega or other custom roms even though i dont have cwm.
its all good. i will try it and see how it goes.
thanks again.
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dr.ketan said:
Where I said you can't use mobile odin to flash custom rom?
Just read above post, i can read YES in first reply
Of course you can
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Ok got it
Apologies.
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kindly dont apologize.. you are too good to be apologetic. small mistakes like this happen. you have helped me many times. its all good..
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Ok got it
Apologies.
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Anyway just like to add one suggestion.
If you want to flash custom rom, I recommend to use cwm
See what is reason to not to use cwm, I can see is you won't reset counter isn't?
But I think most of custom rom itself have custom recovery/kernel and rom itself raise counter, B'coz once you flash custom rom your recovery will be replaced by recovery that included in rom. So ultimately no meaning to use mobile odin to keep recovery stock.
Another reason it's my personal experience, flashing zip with CWM is more solid and hardly I have seen case where it fails to do so.
I do recommend to use mobile odin to flash zip files only when you need to flash some mod, which just used to replace some applications or framework of stock rom. But still you want to stay on stock rom.
So in summary :
Mobile odin is best
to flash stock rom without pc,
To keep root while flashing stock rom
To flash mods
To flash individual component like only recovery, kernel, modem
CWM is best to flash
Custom roms
Nandroid backup
Aroma file manager or
Some inbuilt features of cwm
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[Q] blocking the OTA KNOX 4.3 update ( i.e. never ever want KNOX)

What are my options for blocking the OTA update?
I need to make sure I don't wake up one morning and find my phone updated with KNOX. I read that it can be automatically installed on stock roms, even without user consent. I have CWM recovery and rooted at ver.4.2.2 and have frozen the following apps using Ti Backup:
FWUpgrade 1.2.0
LocalFOTA v2
Software update
Is there anything else I should be doing to prevent this update?
Also would flashing one of the custom roms based on TouchWiz 4.3 flash the KNOX boot-loader?
Seriously if this post sale bait and switch boot-loader lock-down cannot be averted this will, in all likelihood, be my last Samsung device. I could understand if my employer wanted a KNOX supported device on his network and I consented to allowing this to happen to my phone for the privilege of using my phone for my job, but forcing KNOX on us after the sale is down right criminal.
Edit (2013-12-10): This thread further describes how to prevent KNOX:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2560015
-chlor3
Flashing 4.3/4.4 roms through recovery will not upgrade your bootloader. Feel free to flash!
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So what device do you plan to go to wit this level hardware? Our devs almost always figure it out.
The bootloader is not locked down. You can still flash roms after the update.
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The Root said:
So what device do you plan to go to wit this level hardware? Our devs almost always figure it out.
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Today at this hardware level there is just the s4 and nexus 5, but no external sd card slot make the nexus a total non-starter. So yes today I am a bit stuck with Sammy... but if they keep taking steps toward making their products like the iSandbox line, I would hope an enterprising company would produce a product that (re-) enpowered the user.
Rant:
It's not just the knox fisasco... having bluetooth tether yanked really pissed me off. Guess who has bluetooth tether on stock.... verizon ( but I really loath what they have done to all their devices bootloaders... so much so that I returned both my black friday verizon 32gb s4's for a pair of 16gb tmobile's ) Don't even talk about mobile hotspot... I get almost twice the battery life using bluetooth tether.
viskon said:
The bootloader is not locked down. You can still flash roms after the update.
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So I can flash cwm/twrp on a s4 that has been ota updated to stock 4.3 (KNOX)?
chlor3 said:
So I can flash cwm/twrp on a s4 that has been ota updated to stock 4.3 (KNOX)?
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That is indeed my understanding. The only thing that's changed with the new bootloader is that when you flash a rom, it trips the Knox counter and invalidates your warranty. If you don't care about warranty, you can root it, install a custom recovery and keep flashing roms as before.
I myself am on stock 4.3 and have no intention to mod my device just yet. So you might want to get a few more opinions before you take the plunge.
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viskon said:
That is indeed my understanding. The only thing that's changed with the new bootloader is that when you flash a rom, it trips the Knox counter and invalidates your warranty. If you don't care about warranty, you can root it, install a custom recovery and keep flashing roms as before.
I myself am on stock 4.3 and have no intention to mod my device just yet. So you might want to get a few more opinions before you take the plunge.
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There is also the issue of not being able to downgrade your modem as discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558847
I've read that the new modem doesn't play nice with the old roms. As I understand the state of things currently once you upgrade one can't downgrade? ( not in any attempt to remove KNOX flag, but just to be able to use the pre 4.3 roms ).
chlor3 said:
There is also the issue of not being able to downgrade your modem as discussed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2558847
I've read that the new modem doesn't play nice with the old roms. As I understand the state of things currently once you upgrade one can't downgrade? ( not in any attempt to remove KNOX flag, but just to be able to use the pre 4.3 roms ).
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The new modems are incompatible with the old MDL bootloader. Your should be fine if you are on the new MK2 bootloader .
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I'm on Ota (kies) 4.3 with cwm custom recovery and rooted via cf-autoroot. Knox is part of the rom but isn't installed - you have to run the app and let it install.
So far no issues other than the allsharecast dongle not working. This is probably because triangle away doesn't work right in 4.3
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[Q] Upgrading to 4.3... some questions beforehand

Hi there,
I haven't been updated on rooting and all that jazz in a while, so please excuse my ignorance.
I have a Galaxy S3 (SGH-T999) on 4.1.2. It's stock rooted, but I don't have a custom Recovery or anything on it. I didn't (and don't) want to trip the root counter.
Is there a way to upgrade my phone to 4.3, have root working, and not trip the root counter? (Basically, what I currently have, except on 4.3)
Also, I Googled this new Knox feature I've seen people talk about, it seems like a lot of people here don't like it-- should I not want it on my phone too?
Happy holidays,
-Proxin
The counter is easy enough to reset if still on 4.1.2, so your best bet is to install a custom recovery through odin, then flash docholiday's 4.3 stock deknoxed rom and the new modem, and the at&t kernel for working wifi. This way you can use triangle away to reset the flash counter. If you install 4.3 with 4.3 firmware, you will not be able to root without tripping the knox counter.
Hope this helps
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masondoctorjt said:
The counter is easy enough to reset if still on 4.1.2, so your best bet is to install a custom recovery through odin, then flash docholiday's 4.3 stock deknoxed rom and the new modem, and the at&t kernel for working wifi. This way you can use triangle away to reset the flash counter. If you install 4.3 with 4.3 firmware, you will not be able to root without tripping the knox counter.
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From what I understood back in the day when I got root, if you installed a custom recovery, you either triggered the counter or lost all your data/wiped the phone. Is that still the case?
Edit: Or was it un-tripping the counter that caused the data to wipe?
If you want 4.3 touchwiz, root, and a warranty, all at the same time, don't take the official update.
Instead, flash the 4.3 ROM zip, 4.3 modem, and a compatible kernel, using twrp or cwm recovery.
If you ever need to odin, do not use any version newer than MD5 or you are stuck with Knox and can never go back.
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Proxin said:
From what I understood back in the day when I got root, if you installed a custom recovery, you either triggered the counter or lost all your data/wiped the phone. Is that still the case?
Edit: Or was it un-tripping the counter that caused the data to wipe?
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It still triggers the counter, but it can be reset. It did not wipe my data, but backup just in case. Resetting the counter did not wipe data either. But do not update to the official 4.3 if you want to root and still have a warranty.
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Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
Proxin said:
Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
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To fix root, enable developer options by pressing build number 7 times, then enable root access for apps and adb under dev options.
MJC is TW 4.3 which includes knox. AFAIK the root66 version has knox removed from the rom, but it is impossible to remove it from the bootloader.
Adreaver said:
To fix root, enable developer options by pressing build number 7 times, then enable root access for apps and adb under dev options.
MJC is TW 4.3 which includes knox. AFAIK the root66 version has knox removed from the rom, but it is impossible to remove it from the bootloader.
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I checked in developer options after pressing the build number 7 times, but I don't see anything about enabling root in there...
Do I have to re-root somehow? If so, will that throw off the counter?
Proxin said:
Uh oh. I searched around for guides on updating like you guys said, and followed the guide here which promised root, 4.3, and no root counter... and now I can't use root, even though I installed a pre-rooted ROM.
I'm on 4.3 now, but don't have the ability to use root. I don't seem to have the Knox thing though.
I don't understand why I don't have root on a rooted ROM... what should I do?
Edit: This is the exact version I used: root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC.tar.md5
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That's why posts need read completely. It clearly says it will trip the Knox counter in 4.3 in the second paragraph of the first post under "4.3 notes" sorry that happened though.:banghead: Maybe someday someone will come up with a knox bypass in the bootloader.
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masondoctorjt said:
That's why posts need read completely. It clearly says it will trip the Knox counter in 4.3 in the second paragraph of the first post under "4.3 notes" sorry that happened though.:banghead: Maybe someday someone will come up with a knox bypass in the bootloader.
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I don't understand-- it seems like it says Knox is removed in order for root to stick:
4.3 Image Notes: With 4.3 images, KNOX is removed in order for root to stick. This will flag the Knox counter. Once you flash one of these 4.3 images you now have the latest factory stock bootloader, radio, etc. Flashing a prior bootloader can hard/soft brick your device. Please read and understand what you are doing.
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I took it to mean root will flag the Knox counter so it has been removed from the images.
The wording is very ambiguous...
I'm pretty close to just nuking my install and starting over with CyanogenMod, not caring if I trip the counter or not. Is it possible to do so with the current setup, or will I end up with a brick/semibrick somehow? I figure I might as well, since rooting will likely trip the counter anyway.
Yes lol
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pgarcia777 said:
Yes lol
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"It has been removed", it being Knox haha. That's how I understood it...
So yes, it's possible to get CyanogenMod working without a brick or semi-brick coming from this version I installed?
Yes, I could have been worded better. You can flash other
ROMs but make sure they don't include an older bootloader or your device will brick from what I understand.
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masondoctorjt said:
Yes, I could have been worded better. You can flash other
ROMs but make sure they don't include an older bootloader or your device will brick from what I understand.
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I ended up just saying "eff it" and hopped onto CyanogenMod. Probably tripped the root counter, but by now I just don't care anymore.
Thanks for helping me in this thread though, I appreciate it.
Take care and happy holidays.
You did trip the Knox counter.
Just so anyone else reading this thread knows, if you value your warranty DO NOT UPDATE TO 4.3 VIA ODIN . Instead, flash the 4.3 rom , kernel, and modem zips in CWM or TWRP recovery.
Do not Odin MJC (or MK4 for you T999L people) if you want root and warranty, as once you are on the Knox boot loader you can't go back.
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Adreaver said:
You did trip the Knox counter.
Just so anyone else reading this thread knows, if you value your warranty DO NOT UPDATE TO 4.3 VIA ODIN . Instead, flash the 4.3 rom , kernel, and modem zips in CWM or TWRP recovery.
Do not Odin MJC (or MK4 for you T999L people) if you want root and warranty, as once you are on the Knox boot loader you can't go back.
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One of the things that bugs me about forums, finding information is a pain the butt. I just want to get my device back to stock so I can get OTA updates, GPS doesn't suck, and can use Wifi. I don't care about root anymore or using custom roms. I'm learning Objective C right now to branch into iOS development. I'm sick of the Android ecosystem, to be frank.
I'm on Wicked Rom with Android v4.1.1
Baseband T999UVDMD5, Kernal 3.0.65-DeviantKernel_07
I'm downloading T999UVUEMJC_T999TMBEMJC_TMB.zip right now, along with root66_TMO_T999UVUEMJC_2.7z
Which one do I need to flash? if root66 gives me root, then cool I'll take it, but as I said, I don't care. I'll be using Mobile Odin since I'm on a mac and I sold my PC. If I need to install Windows via bootcamp then so be it, but I really don't want to.
If I need to update the rom, kernel, modem, etc all separately where do I find those files? *scratches head*

[Q] Do you guys have locked bootloaders over here?

I know the old TMO S3 ROM's were all easy to root & install AOSP on.
But coming from the ATT S4 world, where all hell has broken loose in the form of locked bootloaders, I figured I'd double check with you guys before I flash my buddies phone.
Plan is the following:
1) ODIN the phone to pre-rooted T999_UVUEMJC via Route66 (see, I searched a little ).
2) Download & install Goo Manager to install TWRP recovery.
3) Install 4.3 version of SlimBean AOSP (not a fan of 4.4 yet).
Will that work okay or will I accidentally be ODIN'ing a firmware that suddenly locks the bootloader?
Thanks and sorry for the forum clutter
You can odin the firmware or just odin flash a custom recovery and flash away. Slim or LiquidSmooth are the best bets
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@CZ Eddie
I wouldn't do that. The hell that happed to S4 happened here as well. Bootloader crap is for us too. Follow the process you described except instead of UVUEMJC version try UVDMD5 of Root66. The MJC will lock the bootloader.
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It's not really a true bootloader lock, as you can still Odin a recovery and flash whatever you want. You just get the Knox enforcement and the inability to flash am older bootloader.
With that said, I still wouldn't touch MJC with a 10' pole until/unless somebody figures out a way to spoof Knox, at least for warranty claims.
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Perseus71 said:
@CZ Eddie
I wouldn't do that. The hell that happed to S4 happened here as well. Bootloader crap is for us too. Follow the process you described except instead of UVUEMJC version try UVDMD5 of Root66. The MJC will lock the bootloader.
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Adreaver said:
It's not really a true bootloader lock, as you can still Odin a recovery and flash whatever you want. You just get the Knox enforcement and the inability to flash am older bootloader.
With that said, I still wouldn't touch MJC with a 10' pole until/unless somebody figures out a way to spoof Knox, at least for warranty claims.
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Wow, so glad I asked. Thanks a bunch guys!!
Sorry to hear that even if it's not the "end of the earth" for you yet, that you are now inching towards losing your flash freedoms.

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