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how many times can we flash the ROM ?!

Hi all !
everything is said in the title of this message ...
how many times can we flash before the memory starts to have issues ?

I'm not sure but I think about 1000 times.

udK said:
I'm not sure but I think about 1000 times.
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I think we can do it very often, because of the use of a transcoder which map "randomly" the cells in the flash chip, in order to preserve them. So you don't use always the same cells.

the rom memory and the storage memory is using the same space.
so i believe it will break down earlier because of your daily use then flashing rom.
you know, even make a call, recieve a sms, they change the data in the memory either.
if you keep flashing rom all the time, official info of the memory shows you can flash a full size rom(128M) for 1 million times or a normal size rom(60M) for more then 2 million times. if you change average 100KB data everyday of your mobile, the memory can hold 1000000000 days before break down.

kalechen said:
the rom memory and the storage memory is using the same space.
so i believe it will break down earlier because of your daily use then flashing rom.
you know, even make a call, recieve a sms, they change the data in the memory either.
if you keep flashing rom all the time, official info of the memory shows you can flash a full size rom(128M) for 1 million times or a normal size rom(60M) for more then 2 million times. if you change average 100KB data everyday of your mobile, the memory can hold 1000000000 days before break down.
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If this information is right, and I believe so, I can only use my trinity for only ~2.7 Million years ...
Maybe it's enough for me, or not...

udK said:
I'm not sure but I think about 1000 times.
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maybe did you want write 10.000
I think this is the life of an eprom!!!
bye!!

mikhe69 said:
If this information is right, and I believe so, I can only use my trinity for only ~2.7 Million years ...
Maybe it's enough for me, or not...
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but some times, because of hardware or software falts,your mobile will keep writting one of the block (cell) on and on and on and on......
one cell broken, all memory broken. so that situation will kills the memory much faster then you think, and that does happen.

ervius said:
maybe did you want write 10.000
I think this is the life of an eprom!!!
bye!!
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theoretically i think you are right! 10K times is expectable without any suddenness.
just enjoy flashing the rom as you want before you change the cellphone.

We LOVE WP7 .. BUT Will not buy until ...

We LOVE WP7 .. BUT Will not buy until ...
alot of very important features missed
Memory card Support .. that can be removed or replaced option without data loss
Solution : Only Microsoft can edit this
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File manager .. USB mass storage mode .. Bluetooth file transfers
Solution : May be developer can made one for us
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Running App Switcher
Solution : May be developer can made one for us
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Profiles [Silent - General ... ]How can we make the phone silent?
Solution : May be developer can made one for us
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No Hardware parts lock for developers(camera[for used in chat applications like fring] , microphone[For call & sound Recorder] ....)
Ability to add ringtones
Anyone know how to do this?
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i heard that when you close an app it save where you left off... might want to check number 3... well there two week until launch date they might cook something up and the mean time but..... number 1....

File Manager would be nice as well as app multitasking.

Dr.Mazika said:
We LOVE WP7 .. BUT Will not buy until ...
alot of very important features missed
Memory card Support .. that can be removed or replaced option without data loss
File manager .. USB mass storage mode .. Bluetooth file transfers
Running App Switcher
Profiles [Silent - General ... ]How can we make the phone silent?
No Hardware parts lock for developers(camera[for used in chat applications like fring] , microphone[For call & sound Recorder] ....)
Ability to add ringtones
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some i agree with and some just give it up... or dont buy. like expanded storage that can be removed you most likly if you are apart of xda flash your phone at lease once a month when there is a new rom so this is not what you make it to be. the thing is msft has moved to the future of storage try to do the same...

rruffman said:
some i agree with and some just give it up... or dont buy. like expanded storage that can be removed you most likly if you are apart of xda flash your phone at lease once a month when there is a new rom so this is not what you make it to be. the thing is msft has moved to the future of storage try to do the same...
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Lol. That seems like a step backwards imo. Now, if you had the ability to remove your sd card and put it in other things (like it was made for) without having to wipe your phone while also still having gigs of data onboard, that would be the future of storage (even though other phones do that already.)
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

where is the.....it is available for the carrier im on option

no i need file manager not a flash tool .. that i can manage files in my memory

rruffman said:
some i agree with and some just give it up... or dont buy. like expanded storage that can be removed you most likly if you are apart of xda flash your phone at lease once a month when there is a new rom so this is not what you make it to be. the thing is msft has moved to the future of storage try to do the same...
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no i need file manager not a flash tool .. that i can manage files in my memory

Microsoft won't be able to allow switching of memory cards now that they have chosen to go down this route. (Unless they release an upgrade that forces everyone to hard reset their devices) This is a problem wp7 users will always be stuck with.

Sounds like WM would be a better fit rather than WP7.

Memory card Support .. that can be removed or replaced option without data loss

efjay said:
Sounds like WM would be a better fit rather than WP7.
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Hmmm, WM6x on a W7 device, I wonder if anyone will try doing that. I'd keep my old i900 if I could fit a 1GHZ chip in it, just to give it a bit more pep.(I'm easily pleased where my phone in concerned )

Dr.Mazika said:
We LOVE WP7 .. BUT Will not buy until ...
alot of very important features missed
Memory card Support .. that can be removed or replaced option without data loss
File manager .. USB mass storage mode .. Bluetooth file transfers
Running App Switcher
Profiles [Silent - General ... ]How can we make the phone silent?
No Hardware parts lock for developers(camera[for used in chat applications like fring] , microphone[For call & sound Recorder] ....)
Ability to add ringtones
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they all stupid reasons....lol .......
like u do bluetopth tranfer daily ? lol i do maybe once a year...
just tap volume rocker down...done
the other reasons.....seriously

ajftl said:
they all stupid reasons....lol .......
like u do bluetopth tranfer daily ? lol i do maybe once a year...
just tap volume rocker down...done
the other reasons.....seriously
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all of people i know use bluetooth to transfer more than 4 or 5 times a day

Dr.Mazika said:
all of people i know use bluetooth to transfer more than 4 or 5 times a day
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Exactly. The best way to send things immediately and simple.
Why to have bluetooth if not for that?
Why to waste such development?

[Q] HOX - International - 4.2.2 - Voice Record

Hi there people!
I know about the root + txt file method with 4.1.x, but I've been wondering if the 4.2.2 update changed anything.
Anything as in some option that allows a voice recorder to work.
Even client side record would be great (two-way would be heaven).
Anyone been experimenting with this?
If it's absolutely non-doable... could you link me a ROM that is 100000000000000% stable/works and got voice recording?
I'm willing to root the phone as the warranty is over anyway. But the user is my father, and he is an 'old guy'. The rom should be 100% working/stable/etc, if I don't want him to have a heart attack because some 1337 h4xx0r thought messing up core apps is a good idea.
(^ The above is just an example, I respect the work of the fellow XDA hackers.)

h8Aramex said:
could you link me a ROM that is 100000000000000% stable/works and got voice recording?
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Most of roms with good support will works just fine without any restart for weeks, but after some time (or after instaling some apps) something can go wrong.
I've got ProBAM v4.4.1 and call recording is working but it's not a good choice for "old guy"
Try sense 4+ roms like Viper or ARHD - they were good looking, easy to use, rock stable and call recording (2way but without bt) was working fine.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663642&highlight=call+recording

kazayoshi said:
Most of roms with good support will works just fine without any restart for weeks, but after some time (or after instaling some apps) something can go wrong.
I've got ProBAM v4.4.1 and call recording is working but it's not a good choice for "old guy"
Try sense 4+ roms like Viper or ARHD - they were good looking, easy to use, rock stable and call recording (2way but without bt) was working fine.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1663642&highlight=call+recording
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But regular bluetooth works right?
Thanks for the link, will check soon.
(Also, f.ck HTC. I mean, what the hell. Premium priced phones with subpar experience. My girlfriend's Note works like a CHARM with voice recording. It's the damn stock rom without anytihng, and it works both ways, clearly. I hate HTC. Never again.)
(I'll also have to make sure his data won't be lost. I had to return his phone. Backed contacts up with 2-3 apps. All failed and he lost 20+ people. :/)
Update:
@ Recording: Ah I saw that TXT weeks/months ago. But people been saying that the notification and other sounds were sped up and there been other problems with this workaround. I wonder how it works/why that happens. I thought there are mods where they fixed this somehow else. ( I saw mods which included this "fix". )

But regular bluetooth works right?
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Yep, all hardware works but to make 2way sound recording you have to unlock, root your phone and apply "Sound_Phone_Original_REC.txt" patch.
Only recording calls using bt headset doesnt work:/
h8Aramex said:
(Also, f.ck HTC. I mean, what the hell. Premium priced phones with subpar experience. My girlfriend's Note works like a CHARM with voice recording. It's the damn stock rom without anytihng, and it works both ways, clearly. I hate HTC. Never again.)
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Unlocking my phone was one of first things I've done after buying it (because of blated operator software), so it wasn't a problem for me.
I agree that everything should work with stock firmware without unnecessary things to do.
(I'll also have to make sure his data won't be lost. I had to return his phone. Backed contacts up with 2-3 apps. All failed and he lost 20+ people. :/)
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Contacts, app list, wallpapers, photos, wifi pass list and many others are backing automatically using your google account.
Utils like Titanium Backup or Helium can also backup program data and settings.
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@ Recording: Ah I saw that TXT weeks/months ago. But people been saying that the notification and other sounds were sped up and there been other problems with this workaround. I wonder how it works/why that happens. I thought there are mods where they fixed this somehow else. ( I saw mods which included this "fix". )
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I also has this *bug with speed up ringtones and voice recording files using PA3.6 rom.
Complete shutdown and powering up phone (not standard restart) fix it.
Fortunately recordings are working fine when playing them on PC/MAC, so it can be problem only with amr files (didn't try mp3 yet)

kazayoshi said:
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Could you enlighten me about this bug ? (thank you very much for your replies, they help, a lot.)
I mean, how are the sounds different? How do you notice?
The backup: The problem was due to the app my father uses and the different way to store contacts.
Basically, he thought a smart phone, is a smart phone.
He had a Nokia before, and used it to contain every detail about people. Like 3-5 numbers.
When he got the HTC, he started to input contacts by using the online interface.
It sucked. It messed up everything. Like the numbers got mixed up and such.
Finally, MyPhoneExplorer let him to create his contacts.
But then... he needed a Contacts app too. (The default sucks.)
So I went on the market, and GOD BLESS the creators of Contacts+. It IS what the default should look like.
The rooting: It's a business phone so to say, he works on it/with it all day. Well, he relies on it as he relied on the Nokia.
You know, like you would rely on your dog, the best buddy. And that's why I didn't want to risk it.
Warranty is the other problem. The phone already had a yellow tint, and a few weeks ago he dropped the phone and the corner of the protective glass got cracked. It's nothing, but it voids the warranty. (There is insurance on the phone, so I'll just return it when the company goes out of stock from the One X and ask for a One. Seriously, they ask for a high insurance price monthly, and they would give you an "obsolete" phone.)
SO YOU WERE SAYING... (the post got tl;dr, sorry)
Which rom you say I should install?
I rooted phones and such, but f... I almost bricked a friend's Milestone. (Lucky it had two recovery ways to fix things.)
So... yeah. Any "non-ricer", standard, rock-solid rom.
Thank you!
I already owe you a beer.

h8Aramex said:
Could you enlighten me about this bug ? (thank you very much for your replies, they help, a lot.)
I mean, how are the sounds different? How do you notice?
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When playing recorded call on phone it plays 2 or 3 times faster, so you cannot understand a world.
The same thing is with ringtones (played much faster than it should be).
Files are working fine(normal speed) when played on other devices.
The rooting: It's a business phone so to say, he works on it/with it all day. Well, he relies on it as he relied on the Nokia.
You know, like you would rely on your dog, the best buddy. And that's why I didn't want to risk it.
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About rely on Android phone:
For more than a year I use HOX like a normal phone (calling, sms) about less than a week, and as a normal phone it's OK - battery lasts for 4-5 days (not close to Nokia: week or two
Almost everyday I'm using mp3, gps, mail, camera and it has drastically impact for battery life.
Phone lasts for max 2 days with 2-4h onscreen time.
So, except battery life you can relay on it
SO YOU WERE SAYING... (the post got tl;dr, sorry)
Which rom you say I should install?
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As I say before, try any sense4+ rom like Viper or ARHD (booth are great and you/your father should be pleased.
They're stable, easy and quick to use (lighting fast camera comparing to AOSP/CM), lot of custom options with as good or better battery life comparing to stock HTC rom.
Or wait a month and see what people will tell about sense5 roms.
I've got some issues with cpu freq lock to 1,5Ghz, 8h daining battery to shutdown wakelocks and call recorder doesn't want to work on MaximusHD 20/21 with sense5.
Thank you!
I already owe you a beer.
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n/p, i ' m glad I could help.

kazayoshi said:
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Okay, last two:
- How is that ringtone speed up? Is it annoying?
(He certainly won't reboot the phone all the time as there are times when he is receiving calles each minute for hours.)
- So I'll stick to the simple root method, and wait for Sense 5. (It looks neat. I mean, damn, it is slick.)
Which root method should I follow? The one in the recording thread post (you linked)?

- How is that ringtone speed up? Is it annoying?
(He certainly won't reboot the phone all the time as there are times when he is receiving calles each minute for hours.)
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It depends.
After beer or two or after a joint you don't care a lot;P
Seriously: just check by yourself.
Take any ringtone and play it with fast forward mode (most of media players has that feature) and imagine that you hear this when someone is calling.
I had this issue only once, just after applying patch. After complete shutdown and powering up it was fixed for me - phone worked about 2-3 weeks without restart or any kind of problems.
- So I'll stick to the simple root method, and wait for Sense 5. (It looks neat. I mean, damn, it is slick.)
Which root method should I follow? The one in the recording thread post (you linked)?
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In link above there are three detailed guides how to unlock phone. It doesn't matter which one choose, result should be the same.

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I will apply the fix on this weekend.
But damn, it already creeps the hell out of me.
- I will lose every data again. I don't even know how to backup anymore. I used apps, desktop apps, HTC"s tool, everything. Then I still lost some really important data.
- I have to provide the unique ID of the device. I fear. If I ever break it (got insurance on it), will they claim it as a jailbreak problem?... I mean, of course software and hardware got nothing to do with each other if the glass breaks on the display for example, but we are talking about big evil companies.
How comes Samsung phones works perfectly (like they can record OOTB), but HTC sucks this much?
And HTC can design a proper phone (One), while Samsung uses a plastic crap body (S4/Notes).
Life isn't fair I guess. (But functionality > design, so this was our last HTC. Ever.)

Does the Tab S have a proper dialler

Dont know why it is so hard to find this info online but can someone confirm whether the 4g/LTETab S can be used as a big phone i.e it has a normal dialler just like a phone (when used with a sim card of course).
Thanks

Yes it does

It's a phone on steroids + a whole lot more

Ukbondraider said:
Dont know why it is so hard to find this info online but can someone confirm whether the 4g/LTETab S can be used as a big phone i.e it has a normal dialler just like a phone (when used with a sim card of course).
Thanks
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Yes you can. Although i only use it on speaker mode or earphones. because i look stupid, if i use as an ordinary phone.

Yes Dialer is inside ! And it looks great when i get a call and take the Tab on the head ... better the faces around me looks great .. lol !
Sent from my SM-T705 using XDA Free mobile app

Any chance that one of you can add that all to this site? I want a dialer on my 10.5

ozmoii said:
Yes you can. Although i only use it on speaker mode or earphones. because i look stupid, if i use as an ordinary phone.
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Hey, is that really some pics of the tablet? Because the home button is what be the right side of my Wifi version Galaxy S 10.5 if in the landscape mode...

timberwolf671 said:
Hey, is that really some pics of the tablet? Because the home button is what be the right side of my Wifi version Galaxy S 10.5 if in the landscape mode...
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The tab s 8.4lte I think has the phone speaker near the camera in which you can use vs the tab s 10.5 doesnt

Anyway to pull the apk? I could use bluetooth on the rare chance that I need to use the dialer.

from what i know US carrier don't allow phone capabilities on tablets, so that tab s with a dialer, is it an exynoss international version? does it get LTE from t-mobile and at&t? does the snapdragon version have a dialer? if i buy a US carrier version can I add a dialer and text apps that will actually work with my phone number? lol
man are these tablets over price for the old technology they come with. a note 3 is better. that screen though that screen!

max 3 push notification problems with alot of users-any help

dear all
i have noticed a lot of customers having problem with max 3 push notification with no actions.
i know here in Egypt 5 bought it and have same and nearly everyday you can find more max3 used for sell after only few weeks of buying.
if anyone can assist in solving or to contact ..
i have tried everything available online
installing global beta and stable
disabling battery optimize
allow all permissions to apk like whatsapp/viber /mymail
Auto start
lock apks
nothing worked
if any can help.

samsong123 said:
dear all
i have noticed a lot of customers having problem with max 3 push notification with no actions.
i know here in Egypt 5 bought it and have same and nearly everyday you can find more max3 used for sell after only few weeks of buying.
if anyone can assist in solving or to contact ..
i have tried everything available online
installing global beta and stable
disabling battery optimize
allow all permissions to apk like whatsapp/viber /mymail
Auto start
lock apks
nothing worked
if any can help.
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Did you enable notifications and badges? You can set the priority there. Just click on the app settings and select notifications. I have no issues.

opasha said:
Did you enable notifications and badges? You can set the priority there. Just click on the app settings and select notifications. I have no issues.
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yes i did all of that still sometimes i get sound and sometimes not..
i checked every single item and enabled anything related to notifications
even network signal is full and whenever i try to call or i get call it gives out of coverage
i m sure its software bug ...
i even changed region to so many but nothing
i wiped data after each install of rom
the only doubt i have is
in app settings in installed app
there is system notifications
no sound
and i press it i found all notifications are on

That's the problem with Chinese ROMs
I have a global version and np problems whatsoever.
Had the same problem with the Huawei honor note 8 Chinese.
Partial fix was to add widgets for all the apps that you can on the home page, or open each one up and keep them running in the background without closing them.
Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk

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That's the problem with Chinese ROMs
I have a global version and np problems whatsoever.
Had the same problem with the Huawei honor note 8 Chinese.
Partial fix was to add widgets for all the apps that you can on the home page, or open each one up and keep them running in the background without closing them.
Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk
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Thanks ..that already what i m doing now so i get the notification sometimes by sound or only by wake up the screen.
if i cancel wake up screen for notification.. i cant know unless when i unlock the screen...
that is only in whatsapp viber and email apk ( tried three )...
hope an update fixes this...

samsong123 said:
Thanks ..that already what i m doing now so i get the notification sometimes by sound or only by wake up the screen.
if i cancel wake up screen for notification.. i cant know unless when i unlock the screen...
that is only in whatsapp viber and email apk ( tried three )...
hope an update fixes this...
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I would just install Xiaomi.eu rom. No one I know on xiaomi.eu roms are having your sound problems.

See below under importance:

opasha said:
I would just install Xiaomi.eu rom. No one I know on xiaomi.eu roms are having your sound problems.
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Thanks for trying to help..
Kindly i need to know
1_ does it support arabic language not the interface as i use english but i mean in writing .
2- from where to download
3- can i flash like the official one by putting the rom on internal folder and use the update.
Thanks alot

samsong123 said:
Thanks for trying to help..
Kindly i need to know
1_ does it support arabic language not the interface as i use english but i mean in writing .
2- from where to download
3- can i flash like the official one by putting the rom on internal folder and use the update.
Thanks alot
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Is your bootloader unlocked? You will need to unlock it since it's a custom rom.

opasha said:
Is your bootloader unlocked? You will need to unlock it since it's a custom rom.
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Unfortunately its not unlocked.

samsong123 said:
Unfortunately its not unlocked.
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That's the only way you'll be able to use xiaomi.eu. Sorry, buddy. Unlock or try another global fastboot?

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That's the only way you'll be able to use xiaomi.eu. Sorry, buddy. Unlock or try another global fastboot?
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Thanls alot for your assist . Most appreciated

Same problem here with GMAIL only, I was receiving delayed notification(1 or 2 hours). Changed with k9, now works fine. I'm on MIUI 10 Global (no root, no bootloader a virgin one
From time to time, I receive a whatsapp message which wakes up the screen, but without any sound (very strange).
I'm quite unhappy with the notifications system

mrmarco said:
Same problem here with GMAIL only, I was receiving delayed notification(1 or 2 hours). Changed with k9, now works fine. I'm on MIUI 10 Global (no root, no bootloader a virgin one
From time to time, I receive a whatsapp message which wakes up the screen, but without any sound (very strange).
I'm quite unhappy with the notifications system
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Yes thats what i have notifications come with no sound and only wake up screen light then second one with sound but i installed the global beta and its better than global stable so far with last update.

Basically what I had to do was manually turn on all notification sounds and pop ups. Some apps simply cannot be turned on like Google messages.