I have downloaded everything necessary to root my Note 2 but what is this Knox issue that most seems to be facing from what i have read? Can someone tell me if it really is safe to go ahead and root? I am mighty confused.
nascarlam said:
I have downloaded everything necessary to root my Note 2 but what is this Knox issue that most seems to be facing from what i have read? Can someone tell me if it really is safe to go ahead and root? I am mighty confused.
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No reason to be confused, if you flash 4.3 and then flash custom recovery or root, you will get Knox warranty void, end of
You want 4.3 without Knox, flash this
(InsertNameHere) said:
No reason to be confused, if you flash 4.3 and then flash custom recovery or root, you will get Knox warranty void, end of
You want 4.3 without Knox, flash this
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Thanks man. Already flashed the official FW via odin. Anyways i guess am just going to go ahead and flash it. Already out of warranty and haven't extended the warranty. Fingers crossed.
nascarlam said:
Thanks man. Already flashed the official FW via odin. Anyways i guess am just going to go ahead and flash it. Already out of warranty and haven't extended the warranty. Fingers crossed.
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Sorry to hear that, hit the thanks button if it was helpful in anyway.
Hello
Is there any way to root 4.3 MK9 without tripping the knox counter? The threads that may be covering this are confusing and no answer is apparent.
MiRaCL said:
Hello
Is there any way to root 4.3 MK9 without tripping the knox counter? The threads that may be covering this are confusing and no answer is apparent.
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I have the same problem plz any help i have rooted my N7100 and i tripped the knox counter !
MiRaCL said:
Hello
Is there any way to root 4.3 MK9 without tripping the knox counter? The threads that may be covering this are confusing and no answer is apparent.
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I think you are looking for this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2618261
If you are on bootloader MK9, you can JUST ROOT your phone (no recovery or something else) and you are still having 0x0. I tested that by myself and everything worked as expected. Please follow exactly the instructions.
Where do I go to flash the new 4.4.2 bootloader and baseband
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2677252
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How do I flash with mobile odin
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Can I ask...
I've been reading thru some of these threads, and I'm coming to the conclusion that even with KitKat the bootloader is still unlocked, is this true? I have at&t version and they started locking that down with 4.3 JB.
Thanks.
MoodSwinger said:
I've been reading thru some of these threads, and I'm coming to the conclusion that even with KitKat the bootloader is still unlocked, is this true? I have at&t version and they started locking that down with 4.3 JB.
Thanks.
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Correct, fortunately still unlocked.
muniz_ri said:
Correct, fortunately still unlocked.
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This caught my eye. How is that possible with the bootloader unlock, is that just for AT&T? I am on T Mobile GS4 running 4.3 and I can see the knox counter on it 0x0 and I was informed that once updated from 4.2 to 4.3 and above the bootloader is now locked. Please clarify I would like to know. I am rooted though on stock through using this forum and have not tripped knox using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I would love to find a way to install CWM without tripping the counter and trying other roms again but I here I can use bootstrap to run a custom rom, but no word on getting CWM installed without tripping the counter......unless I am wrong and I hope I am!
Thanks,
Mr Wizard
mr wizard said:
This caught my eye. How is that possible with the bootloader unlock, is that just for AT&T? I am on T Mobile GS4 running 4.3 and I can see the knox counter on it 0x0 and I was informed that once updated from 4.2 to 4.3 and above the bootloader is now locked. Please clarify I would like to know. I am rooted though on stock through using this forum and have not tripped knox using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I would love to find a way to install CWM without tripping the counter and trying other roms again but I here I can use bootstrap to run a custom rom, but no word on getting CWM installed without tripping the counter......unless I am wrong and I hope I am!
Thanks,
Mr Wizard
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I want to know that too.
mr wizard said:
This caught my eye. How is that possible with the bootloader unlock, is that just for AT&T? I am on T Mobile GS4 running 4.3 and I can see the knox counter on it 0x0 and I was informed that once updated from 4.2 to 4.3 and above the bootloader is now locked. Please clarify I would like to know. I am rooted though on stock through using this forum and have not tripped knox using this method. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
I would love to find a way to install CWM without tripping the counter and trying other roms again but I here I can use bootstrap to run a custom rom, but no word on getting CWM installed without tripping the counter......unless I am wrong and I hope I am!
Thanks,
Mr Wizard
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I think you have a definition difference. The bootloader is unlocked on the TMO S4. That is you can use the bootloader to update and install modems, roms, recoveries, etc. It is not locked and will let you do this.
However, if you use the 4.3 and above bootloader, it will set a flag if you flash a recovery. This is known as the Knox Warranty flag. And, this is what is shown on the ODIN or bootloader screen.
BTW, if you update to NB4 (Kit Kat) with a 4.3 bootloader or later, the SafeRoot method will not work. The only known rooting method at this time is the CF-Auto-Root which will trip the Knox flag. So, if you are fully stock 4.4.2 you will trip your Knox flag if you root the phone.
However, you can do it. It doesn't lock you out of doing it. It just records that you've done it.
Rob
rlichtefeld said:
I think you have a definition difference. The bootloader is unlocked on the TMO S4. That is you can use the bootloader to update and install modems, roms, recoveries, etc. It is not locked and will let you do this.
However, if you use the 4.3 and above bootloader, it will set a flag if you flash a recovery. This is known as the Knox Warranty flag. And, this is what is shown on the ODIN or bootloader screen.
BTW, if you update to NB4 (Kit Kat) with a 4.3 bootloader or later, the SafeRoot method will not work. The only known rooting method at this time is the CF-Auto-Root which will trip the Knox flag. So, if you are fully stock 4.4.2 you will trip your Knox flag if you root the phone.
However, you can do it. It doesn't lock you out of doing it. It just records that you've done it.
Rob
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So if Knox counter doesn't matter you can still root device..are you still able to install custom roms? or isn't that possible ATM? Trying to get rid of the severe lag 4.4.2 OTA update has bestowed upon my gf's phone.
PaSsAtDrOiD said:
So if Knox counter doesn't matter you can still root device..are you still able to install custom roms? or isn't that possible ATM? Trying to get rid of the severe lag 4.4.2 OTA update has bestowed upon my gf's phone.
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You can flash anything you want with the TMO S4.
However, if you need to return it for warranty, they MAY check the Knox flag, and they MAY not do the warranty service for free. That hasn't been shown to be a fact, but it is the reason for the flag in the first place.
It has been stated by a few people that re-flashing back to full stock will remove the Knox flag. I cannot verify it, since I haven't tried it.
Rob
Can anyone shed some light on a couple of points? I currently have the MDL bootloader along with the NB4 modem. This all runs fine with my daily driver (LightSpeed) 4.2.2 ROM, as well as the (Insane Kit Kat) 4.4.2 I've been experimenting with. I do understand that I can't go back to the MDL bootloader if I update. Knox issues aside, is there any actual advantage to having the new bootloader? Since my warranty is running out soon anyways, I'm not too worried about tripping Knox. So, does the NB4 bootloader offer any real performance or feature advantages? Can I still run 4.2.2 or 4.3 ROMs with it, or will it limit me to 4.4.2+ ROMs? Does it impact the usage of different kernels? Thanks!
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You can flash anything you want with the TMO S4.
However, if you need to return it for warranty, they MAY check the Knox flag, and they MAY not do the warranty service for free. That hasn't been shown to be a fact, but it is the reason for the flag in the first place.
It has been stated by a few people that re-flashing back to full stock will remove the Knox flag. I cannot verify it, since I haven't tried it.
Rob
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It won't remove the Knox flag although they MAY not check it or they MAY when I did my warrenty return they did not but that doesn't mean it will always be the case
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hella356 said:
Can anyone shed some light on a couple of points? I currently have the MDL bootloader along with the NB4 modem. This all runs fine with my daily driver (LightSpeed) 4.2.2 ROM, as well as the (Insane Kit Kat) 4.4.2 I've been experimenting with. I do understand that I can't go back to the MDL bootloader if I update. Knox issues aside, is there any actual advantage to having the new bootloader? Since my warranty is running out soon anyways, I'm not too worried about tripping Knox. So, does the NB4 bootloader offer any real performance or feature advantages? Can I still run 4.2.2 or 4.3 ROMs with it, or will it limit me to 4.4.2+ ROMs? Does it impact the usage of different kernels? Thanks!
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If you don't care about knox you better off going to the new bootloader ,the NB4 wifi driver is not present on the MDL bootloader so you still using the old wifi. I notice very strong wifi signal after upgrade to kitkat bootloader to flashed modem and wifi fix.The best way is to flash the NB4 firmware through Odin so you can get everything needed and go from there.
Thanks, makomek. I've been wondering about that, but haven't really found much info beyond the Knox implications. I have gotten an improvement in general phone call stability and download speed with the NB4 modem. Is what your're talking about related to the NON-HLOS.bin being installed? As I recall, that was to improve LTE, but I apparently it's actually related to WiFi. Or could be both? At least it's good to hear there are positive reasons to update the bootloader. Any idea if doing this would lock me into only using KitKat ROMs/kernels, or would 4.2/4.3 still work? Your input is much appreciated.
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If you don't care about knox you better off going to the new bootloader ,the NB4 wifi driver is not present on the MDL bootloader so you still using the old wifi. I notice very strong wifi signal after upgrade to kitkat bootloader to flashed modem and wifi fix.The best way is to flash the NB4 firmware through Odin so you can get everything needed and go from there.
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PaSsAtDrOiD said:
So if Knox counter doesn't matter you can still root device..are you still able to install custom roms? or isn't that possible ATM? Trying to get rid of the severe lag 4.4.2 OTA update has bestowed upon my gf's phone.
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If your girlfriend's phone is stock, unrooted, and she took the OTA, the easiest way to get rid of lag is to factory reset. If she doesn't care about being rooted and just wants the stock rom, this is the easiest way to improve performance. Just start over. OTAs, in my opinion, are like a dirty flash.
I am wondering if it is possible to install a custom rom(quantum or cyanogenmod).I don't care about warranty, already tripped the Knox flag rooting. Will I brick my phone trying to install a rom? If I can how?
androidman23 said:
I am wondering if it is possible to install a custom rom(quantum or cyanogenmod).I don't care about warranty, already tripped the Knox flag rooting. Will I brick my phone trying to install a rom? If I can how?
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This gets covered a lot at XDA. Recently in the Q&A thread as Method for Root, Recovery, ROM installation after 4.3 OTA [ 1 2 3 ... Last ]
The bricking is guaranteed if your new flash includes an incompatible bootloader. The forums for each rom you are interested in are best resources.
otas?
Can i still ota with Knox tripped?
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Can i still ota with Knox tripped?
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Yes you can as long as you have stock recovery.
Type from KitKat bar.
Hello
I was wondering if someone can help.
I have a u.k n7100 running 4.3, its is rooted with knox disabled, in doing so I have tripped the knox warranty counter
I want to upgrade 4.4.2 stock
Is this possible due to the fact of my current situation. Will the upgrade go through?, like a routine upgrade keeping my data. I assume knox will be disabled and i will lose root, which i am fine with. Please let me know if it can be done and it is routine stock flash procedure using odin.
or are other steps required.
thanks
harlzden
harlzden said:
Hello
I was wondering if someone can help.
I have a u.k n7100 running 4.3, its is rooted with knox disabled, in doing so I have tripped the knox warranty counter
I want to upgrade 4.4.2 stock
Is this possible due to the fact of my current situation. Will the upgrade go through?, like a routine upgrade keeping my data. I assume knox will be disabled and i will lose root, which i am fine with. Please let me know if it can be done and it is routine stock flash procedure using odin.
or are other steps required.
thanks
harlzden
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You can update with no problem at all, using ODIN you will lose data as for root it depends on ROM you flash if stock with root then you keep root but if not then lose it, Id recommend flashing a custom ROM with no wipe
harlzden said:
Hello
I was wondering if someone can help.
I have a u.k n7100 running 4.3, its is rooted with knox disabled, in doing so I have tripped the knox warranty counter
I want to upgrade 4.4.2 stock
Is this possible due to the fact of my current situation. Will the upgrade go through?, like a routine upgrade keeping my data. I assume knox will be disabled and i will lose root, which i am fine with. Please let me know if it can be done and it is routine stock flash procedure using odin.
or are other steps required.
thanks
harlzden
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AFAIK Mobile ODIN flashes stock ROM without the bootloader, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
N7105 rocking AOSB with AGNi kernel,
Click "Thanks" if I was of any help!
harlzden said:
Hello
I was wondering if someone can help.
I have a u.k n7100 running 4.3, its is rooted with knox disabled, in doing so I have tripped the knox warranty counter
I want to upgrade 4.4.2 stock
Is this possible due to the fact of my current situation. Will the upgrade go through?, like a routine upgrade keeping my data. I assume knox will be disabled and i will lose root, which i am fine with. Please let me know if it can be done and it is routine stock flash procedure using odin.
or are other steps required.
thanks
harlzden
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Ofcourse you can upgrade to any stock firmware via odin but once KNOX is triggered it cannot be reset so even thought your binary counter will be reset after flashing official stock ROM, knox will still read 0x1.Good luck.