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[Q] Can't flash any gingerbread ROM

Hi
I'm trying to flash a gingerbread rom to my desire but I always end up being stuck on the HTC logo. I tried several ROMS( opendesire, modaco with sense and without, some more too but can't remember the names,... ) The only gingerbread ROM that installs is CM7, but i have market problems that annoy the hell out of me ( can't find certain apps, need to hack to install bigger apps ). A shame because i really like CM, but i want to compare with others
Any idea why gingerbread won't flash correctly. I have tried several froyo ROMS without any issues before, by the way
I have
BRAVO PVT1 SHIP S-ON
HBOOT-0.93.0001
RADIO-5.14.05.17
thx
ntdst

Did you remember to wipe your data between each different install?
That's the most common problem when you get stuck at boot.

i use rom-manager and always create a back-up and wipe.
I also tried with an empty SD-Card and repartioned it ( with rom-manager ). The results are always the same, every gingerbread rom gets stuck. I thought there was something wrong with the partitions or maybe i need s-off for gingerbread... ?

What version of CWM do you have? Did you update manually to the new radio for the GB Roms?
- Recommended RADIO
http://insertcoin.dataninja.net/Addons/Radio/
If you flash the 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23. Radio a good idea will be to flash
the ril-firmare-drivers updates for it too
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I'm using Rom Manager v4.2.0.2
It is possible that i flashed that radio with a previous modaco sense/froyo ROM.
should i first flash that one you mention and then try again?

Okay, Rom Manager Is not a recovery What's your recovery exactly?
And what ROMs do you try to flash?
AFAIK, you need to flash that first in order to get booted.

sorry clockworkmod 2.5.0.7 is current recovery
I really tried several ROMS
Modaco sense gingerbread
Modaco without sense
opendesire
oxygen
etc...
all and always stuck on HTC Logo except for CM7, that one works fine except for the market issues

- Clockworkmod Recovery 3.x.x.x (Recommended to be used! 2.x recoveries MAY have some problems with the updater-script => boot loop)
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I found this in one of the ROM threads.
So my suggestion:
First try to update the radio to the newest (alredy posted the link).
If that does not help, then try to update your recovery.

updating radio and flashing updates did not help
i'm still stuck when trying to install oxygen
I could use some help in updating my recovery. I f i do this with rom manager 2.5.0.7 is the most recent.
I seems there's a 2.5.1.2 out and 3.x.x.x is not advised. Is there an update zip somewhere to use?

People report that Insertcoin S v22 can be installed with 2.5.0.7
Make sure you do a full wipe in THE RECOVERY, not ROM Manager or any program.
Too boot into recovery hold down Power+Vol Down while phone is off.
There:
1. Wipe data/factory reset
2. Wipe cahce
3. Under advanced menu > Wipe dalvik-cache
Also make sure your SD card is partitioned right.
And for the update - you can only update your recovery if you are S-OFF or you use Unrevoked3 with a custom recovery image.

Grab a copy of Ubuntu and check that the apps2sd partition on your card is formatted correctly. I tried all ways of formatting and partitioning (via clockwork/rom manager) and it never formatted correctly and always caused HTC boot sticking.
If I completely reformatted SD and reflashed an older rom (like Leedroid 2.3) would then boot fine. I then used Rom Manager to repartition & format SD, boot ubuntu (live CD is enough - no install required) then reformatted partition to EXT4, flashed and worked fine.
Also, is 2.5.0.7 your TRUE recovery version? Turn your phone on with vol-down held then select recovery - does the version change to an older one? If this is the case you may need to re-root is (Unrevoked) to update your recovery version permanantly.
Hope that helps.

If you are S-off you can flash newest recovery using fastboot, this flash would be permanent!
fastboot flash recovery recovery-clockwork-3.0.2.8-bravo.img

i agree with TMSsecret,
the gingerbread ROMs i have used seem to need a more recent version of HBOOT. First time I tried to flash LeeDroid 3.0.2, it didnt work. Applied S-OFF (which updates your HBOOT during the process) and tried again, worked no worries. Also, if you're keen to install the latest ROMs, upgrade to clockworkmod recovery 3.x... It took me a few tries to get FASTBOOT working properly (possibly because my version of windows XP has had too long to decompose), but if you persevere, it will work.
The best way to make sure your ROM will work is a thorough research session. Not slagging you at all, just pointing out the obvious. Look up everything to do with your intended ROM and read the threads.

HiApk vs InsertCoin

Hello there,
I'm looking for a gingerbread ROM with 3.0 Sense to it, and both HiApk and InsertCoin look amazing.
What are the major differences and which is recommended?
Thanks in advance!

InsertCoin is better !i use it for a long time !

Also, I would definitely go for InsertCoin. I tried both, but HiApk was a bit laggy.

Kudos you two

Just FYI, InsertCoin is mostly based on RcMixS.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

Another question:
I had my desire rooted by using unrevoked few months ago. I now notice I have ClockWork 2.5 and my device is S-ON.
Correct my humble try to understand:
I need to make a nandroid backup, go S-OFF (1. by using unrevoked? alpharev?), update ClockWork to 3.2 (2. what is the difference to amon-ra?), and flash InsertCoin (3. do I have to flash a radio or does it come with one?)
Thanks!!

The-Q said:
Another question:
I had my desire rooted by using unrevoked few months ago. I now notice I have ClockWork 2.5 and my device is S-ON.
Correct my humble try to understand:
I need to make a nandroid backup, go S-OFF (1. by using unrevoked? alpharev?), update ClockWork to 3.2 (2. what is the difference to amon-ra?), and flash InsertCoin (3. do I have to flash a radio or does it come with one?)
Thanks!!
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S-OFF using alpharev, also i would suggest going for CM7 HBOOT if you gonna use InsertCoin, and yes you probably need CWM 3.x.x.x because its supporting new installer scripts which are required in some ROM's.
Use 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.08 or 32.56.00.32U_5.17.05.23 Radio, see which is best for you.

InsertCoin is constantly developed and the stable version is very reliable and fast.

Insertcoin!!!

InsertCoooin

More questions:
1. Which alpharev version should I use?
2. What is the difference between "download" and "PB99IMG" on alpharev website?
Thank you for your time!

HBOOT and recovery...
The-Q said:
More questions:
1. Which alpharev version should I use?
2. What is the difference between "download" and "PB99IMG" on alpharev website?
Thank you for your time!
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hboot partition table
if you mean which HBOOT to use,
then you need
"Bravo Stock 1.8" for ROM InsertCoin a2sd
"Bravo CM7" for the ROM InsertCoin cm7 (hence the cm7 in the name)
The "download" files are for updating the hboot with fastboot command from your computer (you need the ADB toolkit or one the of fastboot GUI interfaces you can find in the HTC Desire development thread).
The "PB99IMG" files are for updating the hboot directly on your phone without computer. It requires to boot the phone in bootloader/fastboot mode and is probably riskier than the computer method.
Anyway you need to first S-OFF with alpharev iso (which will also update the recovery to CWM-AlphaRev 2.5.1.8 with dark blue color and keep the default bravo stock 1.8 partition table) and then you can update the partition table to CM7.
Correct my humble try to understand:
I need to make a nandroid backup, go S-OFF (1. by using unrevoked? alpharev?), update ClockWork to 3.2 (2. what is the difference to amon-ra?), and flash InsertCoin (3. do I have to flash a radio or does it come with one?)
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Radio
InsertCoin rom does not come with radio.
You should flash the recommended radio. it is better to do it with fastboot command (or GUI tool) from a computer. And it is the only way to do it after flashing the CM7 HBOOT as the cache partition is then too small (5Mb) for allowing radio flashing from recovery.
Recovery fake flash
If you don't want to change your recovery you could try to fake flash the 3.2 recovery when you need it.
Fake flash means to load another recovery (3.2) while in recovery (2.5) by simply applying a zip file. You then have all the feature of the 3.2 recovery without permanently installing it.
1) put the zip with 3.2 recovery on your SD card (zip in thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039954)
2) boot in recovery
3) apply the zip (like you would flash a rom, but it only loads the 3.2 recovery operating system without removing/deleting any file in your phone). You should notice the text color change and a few more options in the menu.
4) enjoy
I've been doing this for all the InsertCoin GB versions (well at least 30 times so...) and never had any problem. This allows to flash zip with amend and edify scripts by selecting either the default recovery or the 3.2.
You can also use the fake flash method to run Amon-RA recovery.
Fake Flash is more or less what what Rom Manager is doing when you use it to reboot in recovery mode (but it only supports a restricted set of recovery versions that have been tuned to work with Rom Manager).
Another benefit of fake flash is that you can still use your old nandroid backups, as it it not recommended to restore with recovery X a backup made with recovery Y.
[advanced] You can also fake flash the img recovery with fastboot from your computer
By the way there are also detailed info in the wiki (it was for the InsertCoin HD but most of it still applies):
http://insertcoin.baadnwz.eu/wiki/InsertCoin_Data%2B%2B_RoM
Hope it helps...

Helps? This is golden! Thank you so much for your time and effort!

I prefer IC, more than HiApk.
I don't mean to be OT but what about IC vs Reflex? I tried both and maybe Reflex is a little faster than IC.

I prefer InsertCoin for gingerbread and Sense over other ROM. I tried both , but InsertCoin is faster and more stable.

1. Why can't I flash alpharev's Bravo CM7 .img immediately?
2. Where is alpharev's livecd .iso? Is it necessary to use it and not to fastboot flash immediately?
3. Why shouldn't I use "unrevoked forever" (1) s-off tool?

1. If s-off goes wrong, it won't change partition table's sizes
2. http://alpharev.nl/alpharev.iso
3. It supports only few Desires

JUst to throw a cat among the pigeons...RCMix, FTW!!

Update:
First of all, I gparted the sd-card (3.5 fat32, 512mb ext3, 32mb swap).
Then I had success doing s-off (I flashed a stock rom prior to that) using alpharev's cd, flashbooted (so easy using these tools on linux) alpharev's Bravo CM7 .img, wiped it all, flashbooted CWM 3.2 and now flashing InsertCoin v45 Nightly <3 <3
More updates soon, and ofcourse, many thanks to all of you!

Update:
It's working quite good, besides few lags and slow-downs of Sense.
Flashed a new radio as well, and right now it seems wonderful.
Kudos to alpharev, baadnwz and all you guys too!

[Q] Only CM7 on my Desire, no other.. Why?

Hello everybody, i have a question for you all.. My problem: I have a s-off Desire with Alpharev CM7, CWM Recovery 4.0.0.5 and latest radio on it. I have tried to install many, MANY roms, but all, except 2, have the same problem.. After installation from the recovery, i only see the joker face from Alpharev, and nothing more. AceSMod007, RcMixHD, VillainRom and many more.. The only 2 exceptions are MIUI, that comes to its own bootscreen, but looping and no boot, and CyanogenMod, that works great. Why that? I have tried to install Hboot Sense, Hboot stock, but nothing.. Anyone should help me please? Many thanks, regards

have you partioned you sd, if not make an ext partition of 1GB with Gparted

If you are using cm7 hboot try upgrading to cm7r2 hboot from alpharev.nl as the roms mentioned require it.

TopGear63z said:
have you partioned you sd, if not make an ext partition of 1GB with Gparted
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Yes both with ext3 (by cmw) and ext4.. hboot r2 but others too

Are you doing a full wipe before flashing the rom? This is needed when switching roms.
Only use cm7 hboot if your using cm7 or a rom that was designed to use that hboot. Otherwise stick with stock unless specifically required by the new rom untill you got it working.
If not maybe your recovery is messed up, try a different version.

Back up your sd and use 4EXT recovery to start from strach. Create aligned partitions with this recovery. Mostly, the boot loops happen when hboot is too small for the rom or ext partition(s) is broken or not aligned. Also you can fix your partition with e2fsck.

Try InsertCoin CM7, and do everything what is said above, should be fine then

mercianary said:
Are you doing a full wipe before flashing the rom? This is needed when switching roms.
Only use cm7 hboot if your using cm7 or a rom that was designed to use that hboot. Otherwise stick with stock unless specifically required by the new rom untill you got it working.
If not maybe your recovery is messed up, try a different version.
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maybe that is.. I have installed alpharev stock hboot and reflashed original RUU, tomorrow i will try to root my phone again..
PS. with others Alpharev hboot, RUU won't upload, so, if you need to flash a RUU, is important that you install STOCK ALPHABOOT

Tried All Possible ROMs NONE work HELP!!!!

Hi,
So i have a HTC Desire flashed to CM7r2 Hboot (just moved from stock) and i have tried flashing all possible custom roms from xda (BlissMod007, AceS, Starburst, RevolutioN Aurora, LeeDroid etc etc....) NONE of them work on my desire.. I checked my hboot...checked my root everthing is fine...i even have a 1GB ext partition on my card that the ROM's want...Majority of the ROM's are stuck on the lockscreen others freeze after some time ..
I really want to know whats wrong! I CANT live with the original froyo bc that gives me only 25mb of free internal memory.
SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME!!

rappersup said:
Hi,
So i have a HTC Desire flashed to CM7r2 Hboot (just moved from stock) and i have tried flashing all possible custom roms from xda (BlissMod007, AceS, Starburst, RevolutioN Aurora, LeeDroid etc etc....) NONE of them work on my desire.. I checked my hboot...checked my root everthing is fine...i even have a 1GB ext partition on my card that the ROM's want...Majority of the ROM's are stuck on the lockscreen others freeze after some time ..
I really want to know whats wrong! I CANT live with the original froyo bc that gives me only 25mb of free internal memory.
SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME!!
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So you flashed the CM7r2 HBOOT and used every rom but CM7? If those roms aren't designed to fit on the CM7 HBOOT you'll end up with half a rom flashed on there.
Did you wipe everything between flashes (including dalvik cache)?
Last thing, try flashing back to the stock HBOOT partition layout and see how that goes. Might've got a corrupted partition file (you should always an MD5 checker on stuff like this).

yes when i flashed the CM7 hboot i flashed the CM7 ROMs for which i wudnt get past the white screen with htc in green
and when i had the stock hboot the ROMs wud get flashed the first boot would go smooth (wud take some time obviously but thats normal right?)
and yes everytime i flashed i wiped everything including dalvik cache.
and i also dont understand what with the MD5 how is that important... because i completely ignored it before.

From your posts looks like you did not read the tutorials carefully.
EXT partition made correct?
What Recovery do you have?
What version did you download from the ROM?
MD5 Checksum is fine?

i had this problem aswell before so all i did was flash the alpha rev downgrader hboot then on the phone click on restart bootloader then just flash the cm7 hboot..
then just wipe everything and flash the rom ..
also some sense roms take up to 15 mins to boot and some of the sense roms resarts the fone three times so just wait for a maximum of 20 minutes

yes ext partition is correct i had a 2GB ext4 previously but then i read on the forums that not all ROMs were compatible with a ext4 so then changed it to a 1GB ext 3
Clockwork Mod Recovery 2.5.0.7
Whats this MD5 Checksum ?? How do i verify it ?
Also whats the alpha rev downgrader ? do you have to downgrade the hboot ?
Because i moved from CM7 to stock just by reflashing it and on my bootloader i saw the change just fine.
I have 10MB free internal memory WT*

rappersup said:
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Clockwork Mod Recovery 2.5.0.7
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Use Amon ra recovery. CMR didn't work for me either.

Is that true could it be CMR ??
And how do i get amon ra ? i got CMR by default like when i rooted using unrevoked.

If CWM 2.5.0.7 doesnt work at all, it may be because you have a PVT 4 erase size 40,000 device.
Not sure why my guide is one of the only guides that mentions this, but there you go.

rappersup said:
Is that true could it be CMR ??
And how do i get amon ra ? i got CMR by default like when i rooted using unrevoked.
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Some people have trouble with clockworkmod. Normally they solve it by switching to another recovery so it may be the reason to what you are experiencing now.
To get AmonRa recovery, download AmonRa recovery here. Then plug your phone into the computer and use this utility to flash the recovery.

itachi1706 said:
To get AmonRa recovery, download AmonRa recovery here.
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Actually, I think the test 2.0.1 is better (for SD-ext backup), which you can get here for a limited time only:
http://db.tt/z7hzdp34

No mine is a pvt 3 atleast that's what it says in my bootloader
I think I'll try amon ra

Hey Guys,
So i flashed AmonRa and then flashed a ROM and it works fine so far.
Thanks alot will get back on how its performance is in the long run.
Thanks a lot

okay no as soon as i rebooted it got stuck on the lockscreen and froze....rebooted again same story....rebooted again same story done that about 5 times now

sorry false alarm its like the problem never went...back to the same old situation...
can someone please help me out..
also is there a way to go back to cmr ??

Try changing to a different kernel. It may be a problem with the kernel. What Rom are you using now?
Sent from my HTC Original Desire using Tapatalk

Well I tried RevolutioN - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1300224 which worked for 30 mins before it froze
and then i tried ReflexS - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054435
which worked for about 15 mins and then froze.
which kernel should I flash ? thats the only thing left to flash now
And now i have switched back to CMR as i had a CMR backup of the stock ROM.
So im running the stock ROM now.

Try snq 111005 or gingercakes 0.6d. They are the stablest kernels for sense roms for me. Use the search function to find the kernels.
Sent from my HTC Original Desire using Tapatalk

im sorry but i cant find either of those kernels
i found gingercakes 0.8f and many other versions that were 0.8d/e/etc etc
can u post a link or something like that....also i dont know how to flash a kernel is it just like a rom zip thru clockworkmod ??

rappersup said:
im sorry but i cant find either of those kernels
i found gingercakes 0.8f and many other versions that were 0.8d/e/etc etc
can u post a link or something like that....also i dont know how to flash a kernel is it just like a rom zip thru clockworkmod ??
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Can't help you with finding the kernels I'm afraid. But to flash one just do it through recovery like you would a rom. No need to do all the wipes, just wipe your dalvik cache before you flash it.

Custom roms don't work...

I recently rooted my desire with unrevoked. I have cwm 5.0.2.0 recovery, but I can't seem to make custom roms work. I first tried to flash the 3.5 htc sense Cool Sense rom, but it got stuck after the boot image. Then I tried Leeroid and Cyanogenmod, but they both entered bootloops. Before I started the flashing, I updated my radio from 5.11.05.27 to 5.17.05.23, but I didn't update the ril. Could it have anything to do with that?
Or could it be the hboot? I don't know much about it, but its version 93.0001, and because I s-offed my phone with revolutionary, it says "AlfaRev Revolutionary" on top. Do I have to flash a custom hboot?
Or do all these roms need sd card partitioning? I did a 2gb partition with cwm recovery, but I don't think it worked.
By the way:
Htc desire GSM
Hboot 93.0001
Cwm 5.0.2.0 recovery
Stock 2.2 android rom
Baseband 5.17.05.23
Sent from my HTC Desire using xda premium

Hi,
I have similar problem. I rooted it with Unrevoked and s-offed it using the alpharev utility. Only roms I was able to flash were the Oxygen 2.3.2 and CyandroigenMod 7. When I tried other roms it just stuck on the alpharev splash screen, I left it like that for couple hours like that but nothing was happening...and I had the proper hboot image flashed that was required for the roms.
Do you have any advice what should I do?
Thanks.

I am not an expert, but somewhere I read that the recovery cwm 5.xx has some problem. Try the 4Ext recovery that is based on cwm and for me works efficiently.
Another question, you speak about Oxigen and Cyano, both use modified table partition. Have you changed the partition table and downloaded the right rom version for that table?

Just so you know, Oxygen and Cyanogenmod roms will work even on stock hboot and doesn't require EXT partition for it to install and run on your phone.. You'll have issues with the memory for your apps though and that's what the custom partition table and EXT partition and a2sd, data2sd etc. scripts are for.
On the other hand, some ROMs (Sense based roms most of the time) REQUIRE that you have an EXT partition on your SD for it to install and work properly. Check the rom thread and read the requirements!
As for creating ext partitions on your sdcard, I recommend using 4EXT Recovery or alternatively Gparted on your desktop computer.

This would only be true if Clockworkmod was updated to V.5.x. If I'm not mistaken, alpharev's s-off method puts in his own modified version of clockworkmod. I'm not sure if his version is based on V.5.x ...
Sent from my HTC Glacier using XDA App

As stankyou said you are facing all these problems because your sdcard has no EXT4 partition.
Partition your sdcard to xyz FAT32 + 1gb EXT4

did you do a full wipe/factory reset from the recovery before flashing the custom roms ??

Thanks guys for your help. The problem was that I didn't have the sd-ext partition, so I created it and now it works