[Q] USB OTG with CM 10.2 - 8.9" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm trying to run DSLR Controller on my kindle that Ijust flashed with CM 10.2. Is OTG not enabled currently or is my problem something else?
Is there any way to get it working, if that is the case?

You have to compile a custom kernel with otg enabled to use otg, and power the device up with a power supply of sorts or it won't have enough power.
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HardOnChairs said:
I'm trying to run DSLR Controller on my kindle that Ijust flashed with CM 10.2. Is OTG not enabled currently or is my problem something else?
Is there any way to get it working, if that is the case?
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Yeah I got same reply from Stunts513. There has to be an expert out there that can help us out as this is so important to so many Kindle Fire HD users.
I personally have so many uses for the OTG, meetings, keyboard, flash drives and a mouse. BTW all of this works on my stock Galaxy 3S but the screen is too small for my use.
There has to be someone out there that has done what Stunts513 is suggesting. Anyone??

I would give it a go if I had the disk space available on my Linux partition, but i don't because of the other ROM source code. Anyone with some basic Linux experience and a little bit of knowledge about compiling linux kernels could do it, it's not too difficult since it's just basically recompiling something we know compiles already.
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Installing clean OS ?

instead of trying to bypass all the bull**** of this custom OS why can't we just install a clean OS now that we have the source code of Kindle we can apply the needed drivers and also apply the BT driver that exist.
labbala said:
instead of trying to bypass all the bull**** of this custom OS why can't we just install a clean OS now that we have the source code of Kindle we can apply the needed drivers and also apply the BT driver that exist.
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I think the issue is someone has to create the custom OS.
From what I've seen, that takes more than a couple days.
Also we need a way to get the custom rom on it. No clockwork makes it a little tricky right now.
What's the difference between the OS from source (clean OS) and the pre installed OS ?
0xdroid said:
What's the difference between the OS from source (clean OS) and the pre installed OS ?
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In my line of thinking (and the pros can certainly correct me if my analogy is bad)...it's like asking what's the difference if I buy a New Dell PC and simply manually uninstall all the bloatware versus reformatting it with a fresh install...the latter is just better.
Well, in the case of PC vendors, there's Windows from Microsoft and a separate install of bloatware by the vendors. Kindle Fire, (as I understand it) has a forked, custom version of Android - they are not installing Android OS and putting some apps on top of it.
0xdroid said:
What's the difference between the OS from source (clean OS) and the pre installed OS ?
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I think the suggestion is to build a "stock" Android ROM, using parts of the source of the Amazon ROM. Basically take the drivers from the Amazon source, merge with stock Android and install. Obviously it's a little more difficult than simply copying some files from one ROM's source into another and compiling. Plus there's the problem of getting a custom recovery on there to flash from and to make backups etc.
Well, Amazon is going to sell a crapload of these things - at $199 why wouldn't they? - and I'm sure enough of them will fall into the skillful hands of some of our greatest developers. Given any time at all, I'm sure we'll have CWR and CyanogenMod 9 for the Fire. My wife is getting me a Fire for Christmas, and being a HUGE fan of CyanogenMod, I can't wait for some much needed love from the development community!
Im getting one just for that reason
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My wife is also getting me a fire for Christmas. It will be here Tuesday! I can't wait to get some custom ROMs on it!
I have one on order should be here in a week can't wait to wrinc the crap out of it.I see good things commin the force seems strong with this one it's not like the others.
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instead of trying to bypass all the bull**** of this custom OS why can't we just install a clean OS now that we have the source code of Kindle we can apply the needed drivers and also apply the BT driver that exist.
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You'd lose the whole Kindle experience... I mean, you could put the Kindle App back on it, but that's just weird. I managed to get every app I could think of that would be useful on a tablet with no camera or GPS onto it, 100% integrated with the Kindle's native interface and ecosystem.
If you just want a tablet, you'd be a lot better off with a Galaxy Tab or Xoom or something, not this small, underpowered tablet. For basic stuff, and as an E-reader, it excels.
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You'd lose the whole Kindle experience... I mean, you could put the Kindle App back on it, but that's just weird. I managed to get every app I could think of that would be useful on a tablet with no camera or GPS onto it, 100% integrated with the Kindle's native interface and ecosystem.
If you just want a tablet, you'd be a lot better off with a Galaxy Tab or Xoom or something, not this small, underpowered tablet. For basic stuff, and as an E-reader, it excels.
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wrong. this tablet is not underpowered or too small. its awesome, and in time will be the best 7 inch available..
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smirkis said:
wrong. this tablet is not underpowered or too small. its awesome, and in time will be the best 7 inch available..
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Best available? Really? Serviceable yes. Specs-wise hardly. Let's keep the giddiness in perspective. It's a journeyman middle to low end tab.
Perhaps this thread needs to be in General?
what other 7s are worth mentioning other than the nook? sleek hardware is all we need, the rest comes in due time!
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smirkis said:
what other 7s are worth mentioning other than the nook? sleek hardware is all we need, the rest comes in due time!
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Make you a deal. I don't wish to hijack this thread (and it has nothing to do with Android Development) so let's move to General. I've tried as many 7" tabs as I could and am happy to share what I learned.
Mod....can you move us to General?
I would think that, on top of the typical problems associated with making a new ROM from an incomplete android install like the Kindle Fire comes with, you also have additional hurdles to get past, such as implementing the same on-screen hardware controls (back, home, etc) into the new ROM, as well as making a touchscreen recovery in which things can be flashed.
Felnarion said:
I would think that, on top of the typical problems associated with making a new ROM from an incomplete android install like the Kindle Fire comes with, you also have additional hurdles to get past, such as implementing the same on-screen hardware controls (back, home, etc) into the new ROM, as well as making a touchscreen recovery in which things can be flashed.
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A touchscreen recovery is already in process (a port by TeamWin of their existing touchscreen recovery called TWRP). There is a thread on it in this same section. Once recovery is sorted out then the real ROM work can begin in earnest
The new ICS version of Android is already designed to have on-screen buttons. I think this new Android 4.0 version requires a newer Linux kernel version than the Android 2.3 that the Fire is currently using, so there might be some heavy work required to get the current drivers all working in a different kernel , but once that is sorted out then new ROMs can be built from the ICS source code
Even starting with a 2.3 ROM, patching things on top of the existing Kindle Fire software shouldn't be necessary since Google provided the full source code for 2.3 as well
Additionally, CM7 'Tablet Tweaks' originally for the Nook Color would be perfectly viable here as well. I anticipate that once a solid recovery / 'unbricking' path is finalized, there will be a much greater development pace.
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Additionally, CM7 'Tablet Tweaks' originally for the Nook Color would be perfectly viable here as well. I anticipate that once a solid recovery / 'unbricking' path is finalized, there will be a much greater development pace.
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thanks I forgot to include that part. If a CM7 ROM is what comes first then it should still work great

[Q] Lots of Choices Help Narrow please?

I rooted my KF months ago with Burrito so I could have gapps. Now I want more without sacrifice. Essentially I want to be able to view movies with Mobo or Netflix and still have access to all the books I have.
I don't think there is a way to have the reader app on the kindle available but I do want some ICS love if possible.
Something stable, snappy and gives me most of the KFs features.
Any suggestions?
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I rooted my KF months ago with Burrito so I could have gapps. Now I want more without sacrifice. Essentially I want to be able to view movies with Mobo or Netflix and still have access to all the books I have.
I don't think there is a way to have the reader app on the kindle available but I do want some ICS love if possible.
Something stable, snappy and gives me most of the KFs features.
Any suggestions?
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Dual boot?
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What Roms could you dualboot as alternate
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I would flash an ics rom of your choice, and download the Kindle app.
moving away from the stock rooted ROM is not as difficult as it sounds. Use TWRP to make a backup of you kindle. Restoring is simple. If a ROM misbehaves, wipe cache, davlik cache, and data (factory reset) and restore yor kindle. I have lost count of the number of times I have done this. My personal preference atm is GlazeICS. It is quick as the stock ROM, including wifi speeds.
I had hesitations about replacing the stock (rooted) ROM but after I have been using gedeROM for a few weeks, I am upset I didn't do it sooner. Its amazing, as I'm sure the other ICS ROMS are also. It;s what the Fire was meant to be installed with. And you can always go back.
there are so many just try them all. once you found one you like stick with that one. I am using simple 6-10-12 and it works great for ME ymmv. As far as the books just install the kindle app reader.
The best one for me so far is aokp rom everything works and its stable. Sound. Netflix. I mean everything
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Usable USB hub for v3 kernel?

Hello I'm looking to connect a couple of things to my kindle fire and obviously I would need a powered hub for that. My question us if every powered hub would be good enough or only certain ones would work. I found this one for example for a pretty penny but I'm not sure if it would work...
If it's not to work is there a list somewhere for hubs that work with KF?
BTW I'm on Hashcode's latest (4.2.1) I don't think there would be any issue with it, would it?

Kindle Fire For Business

Hello all,
I was thinking of putting Kindle Fire HD's in my store for people to use. I already use iPads and have them Jailbroken to lock anyone down from changing/installing/deleting anything.
I use these enclosures, for the iPads, on the tables. And they make an enclosure for the original Kindle Fire, but I would be using the Kindle Fire HD. The iPad's are too expensive.
Now what can I do to keep users from accessing the settings and installing/deleting anything? Also no in-app purchases. Are there any mods or apps that can do this? I know the iOS can.
You can add a user and limit what they can get to.
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You could use this app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kytephone.guest&hl=en
Not sure of it works on the stock os or not since I'm running a standard kf2 on CyanogenMod.
Honestly not even sure of this is exactly what you are looking for.
Also- you can turn off in app purchases on cyanogenmod (aosp).. Again, not sure if it works on stock.
Not sure how savvy you are w android devices so unable to tell you if YOU can do it.
Edit: in a business environment you MIGHT be better off w the nexus 7
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Ok. Just followed your link for the cases. I think the app you would want is this:
http://m.techrepublic.com/blog/tablets/lock-down-your-tablet-with-surelock-kiosk-lockdown/1960
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[Q] Realistically, is CM usable or am I better off installing Play Store with Stock

I just got the 8.9 and I am wondering if I should bother to install CM or just keep it stock and install the play store? What advantages / disadvantages would I have for both? Also if I am rooted can I still use Amazon services if I stay on stock? I really wanna watch prime movies / rent from the kindle library. I know I will lose this if I go on CM
DanielAlbert said:
I just got the 8.9 and I am wondering if I should bother to install CM or just keep it stock and install the play store? What advantages / disadvantages would I have for both? Also if I am rooted can I still use Amazon services if I stay on stock? I really wanna watch prime movies / rent from the kindle library. I know I will lose this if I go on CM
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If you root, you will lose no functions of the stock KFHD. Rooting just gives you access to the roots of the system allowing you to add/remove what you please. Adding Google Play (Gapps) just adds those APK's to the system so you can use them. Again, this effects nothing as far as the stock KFHD goes.
Installing any custom ROM will remove the ability to watch prime movies, loose the lending library and any audio books that are not backed up to an audible account.
This was no big to me because I can watch the prime movies on the ROKU, I don't borrow books and had my audible books backed up. A custom ROM is so much better and faster. Sky's the limit for customizing. That choice is yours.
Because I use some of the stock functionality, I went with rooting.
Then installed Go Launcher and set it up as my default launcher.
Installed LMT Launcher to replace the default softkeys.
Changed a config file to remove the softkey bar
Installed Thumbkeyboard from the Google Play (purchased for a previous device), a much better keyboard than stock.
All this took quite of bit of searching around for different tweaks, but I have an experience thats closer to Android, while retaining access to
the Kindle Carousel as an app, so I can access Prime and the lending library.
My point is, if you can define how you're going to use your Kindle, you have a lot of options.
LinearEquation said:
If you root, you will lose no functions of the stock KFHD. Rooting just gives you access to the roots of the system allowing you to add/remove what you please. Adding Google Play (Gapps) just adds those APK's to the system so you can use them. Again, this effects nothing as far as the stock KFHD goes.
Installing any custom ROM will remove the ability to watch prime movies, loose the lending library and any audio books that are not backed up to an audible account.
This was no big to me because I can watch the prime movies on the ROKU, I don't borrow books and had my audible books backed up. A custom ROM is so much better and faster. Sky's the limit for customizing. That choice is yours.
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You can also check out Kinology.
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i thought Kinology was only for the 7 inch tablet? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2373292&highlight=kinology
Opps, good catch. This was an 8.9 question. Yes, KFHD7 only.
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its a shame too. b/c that would be awesome on the 8.9
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its a shame too. b/c that would be awesome on the 8.9
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Agree.
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LinearEquation said:
...A custom ROM is so much better and faster...
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Noob Alert!
I've just bought a Kindle Fire HD 8.9" 4G on eBay.
Is there a noob's guide to installing non-Amazon ROMs? I just want it to be a standard Android tablet. I've looked through dozens of posts, but I seem to be going round in ever-decreasing circles and will soon disappear up my own USB port
nigelmercier said:
Noob Alert!
I've just bought a Kindle Fire HD 8.9" 4G on eBay.
Is there a noob's guide to installing non-Amazon ROMs? I just want it to be a standard Android tablet. I've looked through dozens of posts, but I seem to be going round in ever-decreasing circles and will soon disappear up my own USB port
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Do you know how many updates I got from you posting all over the forum this same question? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2391776
It's still a work in progress.
LinearEquation said:
Do you know how many updates I got from you posting all over the forum this same question? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2391776
It's still a work in progress.
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Apologies, still trying to find my way around. If that is the only ROM for the HD 8.9" LTE then I guess I'll have to wait until there is progress.
Yes, that's what there is for the 8.9 lte. I'm sure there will be more updates.
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Pure android Kindle
May I suggest you check out a company called N2Aos. They have developed a
version of CyanogenMod 10.1 especially for the Kindle. They will even perform the upgrade for you remotely. The cost is 20 dollars US. I had this done about a month ago and I now have a fully functioning, pure android tablet. I, sir, am a very happy camper.
And no, this is not a paid endorsement!
dond624
He is looking for the 8.9lte which they can't have because Hashcode is still developing it. For free people can do it themselves. Damn paying someone else.
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dond624 said:
May I suggest you check out a company called N2Aos...
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I've been considering them for some time, it looks like an easy way to get started. My KHD arrived yesterday, and has a scratch on the base. I complained, and the seller has agreed to a £20 refund, so I've now got some spare cash ...
dond624 said:
May I suggest you check out a company called N2Aos. They have developed a
version of CyanogenMod 10.1 especially for the Kindle...
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I decided to give it a go, rather than keep asking questions here. Very pleased, but no GPS of course.
LinearEquation said:
He is looking for the 8.9lte which they can't have because Hashcode is still developing it. For free people can do it themselves. Damn paying someone else.
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LinearEquation
I believe N2AOS works on LTE models as well. I don‘t know what Hashcode has to do with it. As a senior member, you must remember that many of us may not be as experienced or as talented as you are. Or, as in my case, although I‘ve been involved with computers for over 50 years, my brain no longer functions as well as it once did. For example, I've been working on this message for almost 30 minutes. Old age kills. Have a nice day.
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dond624 said:
LinearEquation
I believe N2AOS works on LTE models as well. I don‘t know what Hashcode has to do with it. As a senior member, you must remember that many of us may not be as experienced or as talented as you are. Or, as in my case, although I‘ve been involved with computers for over 50 years, my brain no longer functions as well as it once did. For example, I've been working on this message for almost 30 minutes. Old age kills. Have a nice day.
dond624
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Hascode matters because his code is the original and only kernel for the Kindle Fire HD series tablet because there was only one exploit for the Kindle Fire HD models. All other ROM's use his kernel as a starting point and fork from it. Hashcode is still trying to get the 8.9lte ROM done right and has not got to the point to where everything works proper. If he has not, it's probable N2AOS can not be there yet either. That is why my statement about the 8.9lte.

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