I come from the Nook Tablet world, and cyanogen mod was great to have because of the stock ability.
I'm interested in cyanogenmod, but don't want to go through the process of wiping my device just to test it, and may not like the performance anyways. Also, elementalx doesn't work on it (I believe). So does CM11 have many bugs? Does it outperform stock ROM in means of performance? I like the custom ability with it, but not sure if it's worth trying or keeping with cleanrom.
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To be really honest, using a custom ROM providing the same features as a stock ROM like CyanogenMod is not useful. The design is the same, you have few bugs, and everything you gain in terms in features can be found with GravityBox and other Xposed Modules. Now, in terms in performance, according benchmarks, you have the same scores than a stock OCed ROM with dalvik/bionic optimized . But, in terms of real performance, there's no " important " gain.
You better keep CleanRom according to me, because CM doesn't worth wiping your data !
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Why not just make a nandroid backup? Flash whatever you want, don't like it restore the backup.
datallboy said:
I'm interested in cyanogenmod, but don't want to go through the process of wiping my device just to test it, and may not like the performance anyways.
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Simply try for yourself, it runs just nice
Also, elementalx doesn't work on it (I believe).
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It does if you use the "right" Rom
So does CM11 have many bugs?
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Nope.
Related
I had HTC HD2 and I installed Android on it, but now I have HTC DHD and android is already build in and it runs grate.
Why install/flash custom ROM?
What are pros and coins?
To name some advantages;
Full control over the phone (root)
Remove bloatware (Default apps the come shipped with the phone / carrier applications)
Themes
Overclocking / Underclocking
Get updates before your region (2.3)
Many more advantages...
Only con i can think of is you have to revert anything if you were to send it in for repairs etc.
Cons..... if you don't read and follow the directions correctly, you could brick your device.
Pros...... overclocking, backup/restore, better battery life, more customisation, access to more apps, faster updates to new android versions, debranding......
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DPxD3v said:
Only con i can think of is you have to revert anything if you were to send it in for repairs etc.
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And seems like that isn't really the case anymore. Someone (mike19xx from the forums) sent in their DHD with custom rom for repair and got it back without any problems.
Thanks for replays!
Please sugest me some good ROM. And where better save apps on SD or phone memory.
And also please recommend some apps for productivity.
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Non-sense, cyanogenmod7 all the way.
Sense, leedroid 2.2.2
Search the themes and apps threads for other stuff like add-ons.
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Android Revolution HD 3.2 or 4 (If you want gingerbread)
Although im thinking about CM7 unsure yet
It depends on your needs. On the rom threads (or even sites) you can usually find the features and you should consider yourself to think about if it's senseful for you. If you are just a "normal user" who probably doesn't need things like root access or overclocking and extra possibilities like ftp, ssh, vnc, etc. servers with full access it may not be so convincing for you. Usually you get a good speed improvement from several roms and as said newer version without branding. But also bugs you won't have in stock roms (but maybe other bugs from stock remain then ) as developing such things is never "perfect".
An important fact could be that you can only backup anything properly with root access afaik. But this should also be possible with altered stock roms.
Generally you get yourself some freedom I would say.
For the roms: You should do some nandroid backups using clockwork recovery and then simply switch by backing up, installing/restoring and then compare what you like more.
Because I can
Hell yeah
ghostofcain said:
Because I can
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Hell yeah...because we can
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Because I can
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+1
Although, if you are very happy with how your phone behaves, you might want to think again if you really want to flash a custom rom.
Pros are as mentioned in above posts. Cons: you might brick your phone.
In any case, if you root / s-off your phone, you will have a device that is enabled for the future. If HTC decides not to update your device to the latest android version, you will be able to do so yourself if a dev has cooked it to be used with DHD.
You never know if HTC will be able to fix all exploits in future OTA updates(unlikely, but still).
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Thanks for replays!
Please sugest me some good ROM. And where better save apps on SD or phone memory.
And also please recommend some apps for productivity.
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Android Revolution 3.2 or 4.X Beta
CM7 RC2
I believe the chances of bricking your phone is quite narrow.
I almost bricked my phone, by trying to install "FULL WIPE" via ROM Manager ( ROM manager boots into CWM and runs the ZIP and reboots it ) .
For those who dont know, FULL WIPE zip will clear out all traces of ROM on your system. Essentially, I or rather ROM Manager rebooted my phone without having any ROM installed.
But thankfully a simple battery pull was all that was needed to fix it. I was able to get back to the CWM, from where I installed the new ROM, and everything was working as "desired"
If you're happy with your current stockrom and don't mastrubate on quadrant scores to impress your co-workers or friends on birthday party......stay on stock, my 2 cents
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marleyb said:
If you're happy with your current stockrom and don't mastrubate on quadrant scores to impress your co-workers or friends on birthday party......stay on stock, my 2 cents
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Haha, that's exaggerating it a bit mate!
Not everyone who uses custom ROMs are concerned with superficial benchmark scores! Most will agree they don't relate to real life performance.
The reason I use custom ROMs are thus:
1/ Increased stability
2/ Bug fixes
3/ Increased REAL LIFE performance
4/ Superior battery life
5/ Full customisation
6/ Added features
HTC makes some great phones, but XDA Developers make then way better
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Haha, that's exaggerating it a bit mate!
Not everyone who uses custom ROMs are concerned with superficial benchmark scores! Most will agree they don't relate to real life performance.
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true, but If I read some replies here on XDA it makes you think
Humm, have you even tried a custom rom?
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yes tried ARHD (3.0, 3.1, 3.2), I went back to stock as there where all little issue's with it, that are not in stock.
I need a stable, trustworty platform, which you don't get by pressing the last juice out of the phone hardware. I think the devs do great work though, guess it is just not for all of us
Now I stop, cause this is NOT on topic anymore. Bottomline if you're happy with your phone the way it is from factory (topic starter), then there is no need to use a custom rom
I use a near stock, deodexed rom. Only thing I have gained is root and the ability to add themes, such as the funky power control widgets. I have used other roms in the past but there are from time to time issues if the rom has been modified too much.
I've rooted my phone plenty of times and flashed CM 10. I find myself going back to stock every time. I rooted again. So now what? Sorry for asking such an annoying question. I'm just at a loss with this. I need some direction.
What exactly is your question? If you don't know why you rooted maybe you shouldn't be rooting in the first place. You don't root just for roms, root is administrator access to the system. It allows you to access the system files usually blocked to the end user. Roms are just custom OS's chosen by the user and their tastes/preferences/requirements. You should probably do some more reading so you know what it is you're doing before you break your phone.
I like to break stuff!
betoishly said:
I've rooted my phone plenty of times and flashed CM 10. I find myself going back to stock every time. I rooted again. So now what? Sorry for asking such an annoying question. I'm just at a loss with this. I need some direction.
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if you find yourself constantly going back to stock, you should check out the custom TouchWiz ROMs. these will give you the stock experience modified for speed, power and battery savings. plus the fact that they are fully customizable.
just go to the 2 different Android development threads for this phone, you will find everything you need and more.
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For a stock feel with performance tweaks and loads of options for themes check out
The People's Rom - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013463 Freshly updated to 3.13 with all the bells and whistles.
Mother of All Roms- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2116531 Yet another deliciously tasteful rom that is TW based, load of options. Recently updated as well.
Either of these roms you can make your way. Plenty of options to give you the look and feel you want. Support is amazing for these two as well.
+1 for milky!
Or if you don't want to over-do your phone for themed stock JB styles or AOSP.
Then try shooting for a custom kernel and optimizing it for better performance.
Or better yet, find a stock optimized kernel and it'll be all good OR BETTER THEN THAT....
Learn all about the android kitchen and build your own rom from the scratch up!
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+1 for milky!
Or if you don't want to over-do your phone for themed stock JB styles or AOSP.
Then try shooting for a custom kernel and optimizing it for better performance.
Or better yet, find a stock optimized kernel and it'll be all good OR BETTER THEN THAT....
Learn all about the android kitchen and build your own rom from the scratch up!
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Both the above listed roms do have an optimized stock kernel with tweaks for optimization.
I don't root just to say "I'm a hacker" I have a decent amount of knowledge on what root access is. It is my fault for wording my question like I did. I keep going back to stock because I can't set my phone up the way I'd like. Also, for those who are developers...how do you do it? Developing seemed much more easier on Google's Nexus Line.
Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
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Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ?
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
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Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally, or even just recieving new updates to a current ROM.
sure dude why not.. if u root u can overclock and thus increasing your performance, rom selection is self choice related try every rom and kernel and stick to the one you love
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Yes, it could. A new home launcher also could improve speed and smoothness.
Yeah, I think for sure you will be content with your phone longer if you try different ROMs on it occasionally. Or even just updates to those ROMs.
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What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
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What are the most performance/smoothness based roms ? Or is it more a kernel thing ? Although I don't want to experiment with 1001 settings and kernels on a rom before I get it right. I reckon that a developer puts a stable kernel together with the rom he makes and releases..
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Everyone has their own favorites. I personally recommend you try the newest stable CM, or even the M series if you prefer the newest features before the are implemented in to the stable builds.
Stick to the prepackaged kernel so you don't develop issues from using a third party kernel on a ROM it wasn't designed for.
That's my preference, hope you find yours. "Best ROMs" or "smoothest ROMs" threads get closed quick around here.
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Ok thx, should try out CM then maybe, seems the most logical step too. I consciously didn't use the words "best rom" , as that's indeed each one to its own. Though, smoothness is imo an objective thing.
One of the best things about flashing a custom Rom and Kernel is the Fast Charge support! Pretty much if you just use a standard USB port on your PC it will charge as fast as a wall charger.
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Hey all
lately I noticed that my stock android 4.2.2 (not rooted) has become a bit sluggish sometimes. I like stock android but I feel as if the GNex is really running on the edge now in 2013 if I compare to the newest hi-tek android devices/Iphone 5 etc.
Could flashing a custom rom improve the speed and smoothness ? Also maybe I'd like to try out hybrid mode like you have in PA. I also heard a lot of good stuff about Sorcery, don't really know what would suit me the best.
Do you guys think rooting + flashing a custom rom would still my hunger for a new phone for some time still ?
Hope to have some tips that can move me into the right direction. Nonetheless I still love my GNex but I hate when it lags a bit sometimes..
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First question... Have you rebooted in awhile?
Second question... How many background tasks are constantly running.
Custom ROM/Kernel makes sense only if you go for a minimalistic ROM/fine-tuned kernel. Honestly, Stock ROM is fine, unless you need features missing. Or look for just straight optimized ROMs like RasBeanJelly Vanilla and others that are only trying to fix bugs and not add bloat.
Kernel, pick your flavor, but always go with 'stable' ones and not nightlies if you want to avoid issues.
For me, I do Stock ROM (or would consider RasBeanJelly Vanilla) at best, and Franco Kernel (though stock is good enough).
Another point... Key Lime Pie (v. 5.0) will be announced likely in a few weeks at Google I/O 2013. Why deal with unlocking the bootloader, flashing ROMS, and Kernels, then to have to wait for source code to be released to get the newest and latest?
Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
Have you tried to wipe data?
You can try this first if you like stock. If you want to try a smooth custom rom I recommend you xylon + ak kernel.
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Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs, but you need to have stock kernel and no other system apps that are not apart of Google's stock Android. However, you wouldn't wait anyways for OTAs since you can just flash the updates that appear on XDA once they arrive. Either via fastboot or the custom recovery (if they work).
If you go to a custom ROM, you will not receive OTAs, (or shouldn't if the ROM was built right). You will have to wait for the ROM to be upgraded by the maintainer of it.
dude try something new other than stock..
CM 10.1 + ak diamond
governor = ondemand
stable,good speed..
give it a try
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I believe TWRP and CWM will allow you to install OTAs,
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I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
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Bootloader was unlocked from the day I got it (to go from yakjuxw to takju). Now I just rooted my phone with custom bootloader, but it's still on stock takju. Do I still get the Google OTA's ? Iirc I need the stock bootloader for this ?
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Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
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bk201doesntexist said:
I can confirm this behaviour on TWRP.
Not sure if by mistake but, (as of the date of this post) there's no custom bootloader for any of the GSM/LTE variants of the Google Galaxy Nexus.
What he's talking about is a custom recovery. (This needed correction so as to not to mislead readers.)
Sent from my Nexus
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Good point you're right, sorry should have been more clear.
I'm indeed talking about a custom recovery, not bootloader. Atm I only have lockscreen policy with clock hack and SuperSU/SuperUser apps who use the root. Is this enough to prevent me from having google OTA's ? Still didn't get to flashing another rom lol, I guess I like stock. And it might be between my ears but having rebooted + rooted the phone made it feel snappier again.
Thanks for all the feedback guys.
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Again, if you alter system files the OTA will fail, if it needs to update those.
Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
I am using Purity with Leankernel. Gives me a smooth experience and great battery life.
Also it has the PIE and you can use XPosed framework to get Per App DPI with any ROM like I do.
But I have tried almost all the ROMS in the development section except for a couple maybe. I keep returning to Purity, Vanir and Cataclysm most of the time when I have something important come up and I cannt flash a new ROM every other day.
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Well my (noob) question was if above mentioned things such as ClockHack who need SuperSU permission altered my system files?
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The answer should be obvious... yes.
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Hi, I am looking for a ROM that is stable and faster than stock. What ROM would be the best for this? I haven't really tried ROMs since I last put Cyanogenmod on my CDMA HTC Hero, so I don't have the best idea of what's out there and what works. I also searched "performance ROM" just to make sure this hadn't been asked recently.
I'm running TWRP and the latest SuperSU, if that matters.
archer007 said:
Hi, I am looking for a ROM that is stable and faster than stock. What ROM would be the best for this? I haven't really tried ROMs since I last put Cyanogenmod on my CDMA HTC Hero, so I don't have the best idea of what's out there and what works. I also searched "performance ROM" just to make sure this hadn't been asked recently.
I'm running TWRP and the latest SuperSU, if that matters.
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There won't be a faster Rom. What you can try is flash a kernel that supports overclocking. Although, imho, you won't be blown away by the increased performance, it's all marginal.
Stock Rom is already very fast. Other Roms will also be very fast. It's usually a matter of options that the custom Roms offer. You can tweak more. But will they have a noticeable performance improvement, I think not. YMMV obviously
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There won't be a faster Rom. What you can try is flash a kernel that supports overclocking. Although, imho, you won't be blown away by the increased performance, it's all marginal.
Stock Rom is already very fast. Other Roms will also be very fast. It's usually a matter of options that the custom Roms offer. You can tweak more. But will they have a noticeable performance improvement, I think not. YMMV obviously
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Ah, thank you. I had such a massive performance jump from 1.6 to 2.2 and then 2.2 to 2.3 Cyanogenmod on my Hero that I thought I might get something similar out of a custom ROM again.
archer007 said:
Ah, thank you. I had such a massive performance jump from 1.6 to 2.2 and then 2.2 to 2.3 Cyanogenmod on my Hero that I thought I might get something similar out of a custom ROM again.
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Simply make a Nandroid of your current Rom and experiment like crazy
If you find a custom Rom that blows you away: keep using it. If you don't find any advantages or worse: restore Nandroid :good:
Custom ROM makes only sense if you want special functions / features of a specific ROM.
Many special features can also be activated in stock ROM by apps like Xposed, GMD apps etc.
So most probably a custom ROM is unnecessary. Just look for a good kernel (Franco, Elementalx, Faux...) if you want added performance, battery life or filesystem support.
Haven't ran any after market ROMS on the Nexus 5x yet but used to be a CM fan prior to the "shut down". Although I read the devs went to Lineage, just haven't done a whole lot of research on it just yet. By looking through the forums, it looks like my woes are the same as many others. I.e. poor battery life, declining performance, low sound volume ect.
Anyone have a recommendation on a decent ROM and/or MODs to start out with? Any advice would be greatly appreciated so I can get a head start on researching.
My personal suggestion to you would be to stick with the stock rom but use a custom kernel. Often when people are talking about how bad their performance is on their phone it is because their kernel isn't configured correctly.
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My personal suggestion to you would be to stick with the stock rom but use a custom kernel. Often when people are talking about how bad their performance is on their phone it is because their kernel isn't configured correctly.
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I will agree with this. I was running the stock ROM with a kernel for a long time, and it was great. I recently wiped everything and switched to Pure Nexus, but that's cuz I wanted to try F2FS.
My daily driver is PixelRom. Stable enough and looks refreshing among all custom roms that I have tried before. Its stock based, easy install all in one with bootloader and vendor, kernel franco for a bit better battery life. Swansong sound mod…
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I use stock + greenify + lucky patcher + Xposed. Seems to work ok for me so far batterywise. It's my personal opinion more mods more problems so I try to keep it simple.
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I use stock + greenify + lucky patcher + Xposed.
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By using Xposed, I'm assuming you're running MM?
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By using Xposed, I'm assuming you're running MM?
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Oh yeah. MM right out of the box
Pure Z Rom here 7.1.2 stock based with franco kernel
I don't find any custom rom for daily use without problem