Does it come with a screen protector????????? If it doesn't then I should of ordered one in advance!
Let me know.
Came with only one screen protector behind the manual and the CD
Good! Do you think it's reusable? I don't want to put it on and then find out I have a faulty device after a few days.
The Tmo Rep put mine on for me. He must be new, though. He had no clue the TP2 came out today, i had to tell him. alskdjf. and when he tried to put the screen protector on, he looked like if he was trying to do NeuroSurgery or something. so now i have a big air bubble running down the entire left side of the device. and on top of that, when he tried to take the battery cover off, he tried to PRY it off the device. WTF?! it really is not that hard AT ALL to take the cover off. Right? i was a little stunned when he tried to do that. But everythings fine.
Yeah usually when I get a device from the store they try to do everything for you. I would have to say no it's ok I got it. Then they would just put it in the bag and I would leave.
i got my tp2 today, and it came with factory plastic screen protector, took me half an hour to realize why i couldnt hear volume on calls.. realized the one that comes with the phone has the top speaker completely SEALED/blocked off... then theres an extra screen protector that came with the phone in the box, that one has preholes for buttons + speaker.. it took a quick 2minutes of finesse to put it down without any air bubbles, i found this quite easy after realizing they had good stick, just do it slowly
where can i get extra protectors? didnt put mine on very straight.
where are you guy's getting the TMo TP2? Doesn't show on their website yet
Showed up for me on Tmo sites last night: I went to a Tmo store to get one cause I didn't want to wait for shipping. Walmart.com also carries the full line of TMo phones.
As for screen protectors, I like Invisi-shield from Zagg. They protect very well and add a non-slip surface. I just hate the idea of dropping my $800 (HD) phone.
You can call T-Mobile to order your TP2. For the screen protector, I like "bestskinsever". I use them for every device I had.
I ordered mine from Brando, Honkong. I use have their SP on my HD. It was the BEST ones I have seen thus far. But I am not sure if the one I ordered will fit the TP2, as on the Engadget review, I saw fromt he Pics that the Europe TP2 size is a bit differnt to the Tmo USA ones. I should be getting it in a day or 2. I will update once I have it.
it comes whit a screen protector , just look for it in the box where the manual is. (TMO TP2)
Day 31.....the bottom will peel!
Buy a screen protector....the complimentary one is better than nothing at all.
Patiently waiting for "Write Shields" to come out with one. Excellent quality, been using since Kaiser.
I ordered a Zagg for mine - the one in the box is serviceable, but IMHO not what you want. I've been an "Invisible Shield" fan for a long time.
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The Tmo Rep put mine on for me. He must be new, though. He had no clue the TP2 came out today, i had to tell him. alskdjf. and when he tried to put the screen protector on, he looked like if he was trying to do NeuroSurgery or something. so now i have a big air bubble running down the entire left side of the device. and on top of that, when he tried to take the battery cover off, he tried to PRY it off the device. WTF?! it really is not that hard AT ALL to take the cover off. Right? i was a little stunned when he tried to do that. But everythings fine.
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Try your stylus, it's probably jammed in there now. You can't remove the case without removing the stylus first! Otherwise something gets bent inside. I bet the T-Mo Rep didn't know that, and now you gotta return the phone for a new one.
But, LOL, that's why my phone volume was so quiet!! I still have the factory screen protector on it, which covers the speaker, as someone said! LOL.
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Day 31.....the bottom will peel!
Buy a screen protector....the complimentary one is better than nothing at all.
Patiently waiting for "Write Shields" to come out with one. Excellent quality, been using since Kaiser.
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Agree! The one it comes with is a piece of crap!
I got 2 screen protectors with mine from tmo. First is on there and still going strong way into 3 months. Works a treat. Thats not to say others are better but ive not had and issues so far...touch wood
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Try your stylus, it's probably jammed in there now. You can't remove the case without removing the stylus first! Otherwise something gets bent inside. I bet the T-Mo Rep didn't know that, and now you gotta return the phone for a new one.
But, LOL, that's why my phone volume was so quiet!! I still have the factory screen protector on it, which covers the speaker, as someone said! LOL.
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I disagree (At least w/the USA version)...read the following thread again (before your post): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547538
The cover tabs are not even in the same plane as the stylus...Although I will agree that the T-Mo Rep may have broken a tab while cranking the cover off, causing it to fall in the adjacent stylus slot...
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I disagree (At least w/the USA version)...read the following thread again (before your post): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547538
The cover tabs are not even in the same plane as the stylus...Although I will agree that the T-Mo Rep may have broken a tab while cranking the cover off, causing it to fall in the adjacent stylus slot...
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Yea, I read that. That's what hinted me off that the stylus was damaged. And obviously it did get damaged due to the back case, because it's barely removable.
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Yea, I read that. That's what hinted me off that the stylus was damaged. And obviously it did get damaged due to the back case, because it's barely removable.
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Just a quick check, but does your back cover still have two tabs on each side, and one towards the bottom (middle)? Not sure if it's you or josh_prayyforplagues that was having the stylus problem tho...
Well ladies and gents, just got my Amzer Shatterproof screen protector today, here are my initial thoughts: (refer to update for final thoughts)
40 dollars shipping is ridiculous (to Australia). It arrived in a large padded envelope which I think is rather poor for that price. I made some noise and had it discounted to 20 dollars but even that seems to dear for a padded envelope.
Not quite sure what to make out of packaging, photo's for you to judge to yourself...
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Now for installation, followed instructions perfectly (supplied on packet) it was a dry install so I did it next to a running hot water tap. It all went smoothly until I tried pushing air bubbles out with their supplied card. For some reason there are hideous marks left by air bubbles as they travel towards the edge. It looks bloody terrible and I don't know whether or not to take it off, planning on leaving it on overnight and hope its a bit like zagg, disappearing as time goes on.
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Excuse the quality of the last 4 photos, taken from a very old camera.
There is also a noticeable scratch on the underside of the screen protector or something that's caused a line of discoloured pixels in the last picture.
Also, in my attempt of trying to push residual air out of these blemishes, I used my fingernail to apply pressure in hope that the blemishes would go away with proper contact to the screen (the card they provided wasn't doing anything at all). Turns out that fingernails scratch this screen protector, would have thought it was a little more resistant than that since my cheapo ones don't scratch from my fingernail... So blemishes didn't go away and the protector is scratched too...
Pros:
-Full screen coverage, no gaps on the side.
-No orange peel effect and while it isn't like my naked phone, its rather smooth.
Cons:
-Shipping was ridiculous to Australia, might be better to other places
-Getting rid of air bubbles seems to leave residual marks. Seems like you have to be a master and apply with no air bubbles for it to look good.
-Scratches rather easily and noticeably
-Not "self-healing"
Overall Verdict
Given that I had paid 50 dollars for this, (would have been 70 if I didn't complain), very dis-satisfied with this screen protector. A premium priced product shouldn't have these issues, my 1 dollar screen protectors didn't look like crap when I pushed air bubbles out, and its unacceptable that these have this problem. This is my first and probably will be my last purchase from Amzer.
Would love to hear if anyone else has had the same issues and me.
and...
Feel free to ask questions! if it doesn't clear up in the next few days I'll take it off, try find something else to put it on and do a drop test or scratch test to see if its really "shatterproof"
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Just to clarify: Protector itself cost 30 dollars, shipping was what sent it to the exuberant prices listed in my post.
Update: Also, there seems to be 0 improvement after: waiting/playing with phone/some more hopefully pressing. This thing looks so ugly I might have to take it off tomorrow to avoid showing it in public
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Update : 24/10/12 (the day after)
Ok so I woke up this morning and the marks from last night were still there. Hating the idea of wasting my money spent on this I decided to run an experiment: Turn something that was meant to be a dry install and make it a wet install.
The packaging describes a dry install, and I wasn't given any solution for a wet one... so I found some left over stuff from my Zagg Invisibleshield and went to work. After a bit of fiddling around and lots of spray (make sure phone is off when you're trying this), here are the results
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Sorry I didn't think of taking a photo this morning when it was looking crappy, you guys will have to trust me that it was terrible still... but the improvement after my experiment is remarkable. It isn't perfect, my camera can't capture some of the small blemishes under the protector but they are pretty much small enough to ignore, as is the dust that I can't quite get off the edge. Also you guys can see from picture 11 the scratches from my nail I was talking about. The screen protector also doesn't seem to be self healing,a few of the points where I had to force air bubbles out with my dry install still have "dents" so that could annoy some of you here.
Final thoughts? Given my crappy experience yesterday I would still probably not recommend this, especially if it stays a dry install. However in future if they change it to a wet install, that or you have a bottle of Zagg solution lying around and have already ordered this, it could be a good thing. I'm kind of happy with it now, I've now got a full screen coverage that I could use for a few weeks unless it gets terribly scratched and it is quite smooth to touch. Amzer need to work on their product pricing to make it much more reasonable... that and to increase scratch resistance of a product that is supposed to withstand bricks, hammers and the like.
Disclaimer: If you already have this and are trying a wet install, I by no means will take responsibility if you damage your device or if it doesn't work for you. This was my last hope and it managed to work (maybe by luck). If you do perform a wet install, do so at your own risk.
Update 27/10/12
Amzer have finally responded to my emails and after checking that I did follow all their installation instructions, have kindly offered to issue a replacement since they assure me it should not have this issue. Will let you know how my replacement goes
Good review!
Thanks for the input.
Thank you for this review, i was actually considering this since i've seen those crash videos (hammer, brick, etc). Not that i'm putting much faith in those but i figured this would always be better than having nothing or at least better than el cheapo $1 stuff from ebay.
I'm now very against buying this. No point in having a screen protector if the end result is that awfull (since it's application is such an hassle), i know i'd never be over that look and it would annoy me everytime i'd look at the screen. I'm actually thinking it may even affect the anti-shatter effect if it's not well applied (if such effect actually exists as they claim).
And that price range is far beyond ridiculous, a total deal breaker. I'd never buy a screen protector that would cost me about 1/4 of what i paid for my phone.
Again thank you for this review and putting up with all the hassle.
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Thank you for this review, i was actually considering this since i've seen those crash videos (hammer, brick, etc). Not that i'm putting much faith in those but i figured this would always be better than having nothing or at least better than el cheapo $1 stuff from ebay.
I'm now very against buying this. No point in having a screen protector if the end result is that awfull (since it's application is such an hassle), i know i'd never be over that look and it would annoy me everytime i'd look at the screen. I'm actually thinking it may even affect the anti-shatter effect if it's not well applied (if such effect actually exists as they claim).
And that price range is far beyond ridiculous, a total deal breaker. I'd never buy a screen protector that would cost me about 1/4 of what i paid for my phone.
Again thank you for this review and putting up with all the hassle.
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I was very much like that too, didn't think that it would stop a brick or hammer but on the off chance that anything did hit it, it might save my phone a lot of damage.
I pride myself in applying screen protectors well, nearly every single one I've done is bubble and blemish free but this was just beyond me, even a few hours after installation I don't think it's going to go away like the Zagg one.
To clarify, it's priced at 30 dollars which, while expensive, isn't too bad if it does protect the phone the way it is advertised. Just the shipping really blew it out of the water but I thought I'd take a gamble anyway
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I was very much like that too, didn't think that it would stop a brick or hammer but on the off chance that anything did hit it, it might save my phone a lot of damage.
I pride myself in applying screen protectors well, nearly every single one I've done is bubble and blemish free but this was just beyond me, even a few hours after installation I don't think it's going to go away like the Zagg one.
To clarify, it's priced at 30 dollars which, while expensive, isn't too bad if it does protect the phone the way it is advertised. Just the shipping really blew it out of the water but I thought I'd take a gamble anyway
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I am guilty of thinking that the most expensive product must be the best product. Great review.
Thanks for the review..was considering going with this but because of the price and your review I'll consider something else. Tried the DBA just like glass one too, didn't like that one either, only cover the actual screen display and have rainbow streaks..
A finger nail scratched it? Wow seems like you found its weakness.
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nice review, thanks!
Helpful review... But what the hell were you thinking paying over 30$ for a screen protector?
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Helpful review... But what the hell were you thinking paying over 30$ for a screen protector?
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I'm not quite sure what came across me at the time... was hoping it would live up to expectations and never have to buy a screen protector again. At any rate the protector was 30, but it was just shipping that was stupid...
I'm well aware of my idiocy lol but oh well, live and learn
Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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So ...
Since the day or so after the initial recall I decided for once in my life I'll throw caution to the wind and take the plunge of no case or screen protector on my phone, It made me a little sick to my stomach to peel off the screen protector and case and take off for a busy day of work and school with nothing protecting my phone from damage. I figured I'd see a plethora of scratches by the end of the day, and I was able to try this test out because of the recall and Samsung promising to take the phone back regardless of the condition. To my surprise, nothing, not a single scratch, day 2, same and so on.
Fast forward a few weeks, recall phone is traded - STILL IN PERFECT CONDITION, not a screen protector or case has touched it in weeks. Granted I still coddled it, but no different than I would any phone I've had, and I treated the phone like it had a Screen Protector and case on it. Threw it in my pocket, laid it on my desk at work, sat it in my center console in my truck etc. Not a single scratch or dent.
Trade the phone in on Sept 21st and got my new "Safe" Note7, decided that I finally felt comfortable with going "Naked" on my phone after the recall device and have since, so about another week with my "Safe" device and still not a single mark or scratch to be found. I'm actually in the process of getting a replacement for my replacement through Samsung, nothing major, just a lack of quality control on Samsung's part that I have an issue with with this replacement device and Samsung is giving me no hassle about it. I assume my phone suffered from the rush of trying to fix the recall ... but who knows.
Anyways, I will continue going "naked" on this phone, I have no reason not to. And a screen protector just destroys the feeling of this beautiful phones feel and functionality, and really so does a case. i own the LED Wallet case which I love and plan to use here and there, and I probably own around 20 other various cases that I'm sure I will use for fun here and there, But for the most part I've felt the "Naked" feeling and there's no going back lol.
Point of this thread is, I'm not sure how people that are complaining about this phone being "easily scratched" are treating their phones, or if they maybe got defective glass or something. I haven't had a single problem, and when i say I'm anal about my phones it's an understatement, and I feel 100% confident in using this phone protection-free on a daily basis. Obviously you still have to take care of this phone and be extremely careful .... it's made of glass after all. And I cant endorse its drop capabilities lol, That i have no idea of, and hope i never do. But for anyone wondering how this phone holds up with no protection and a pretty active daily use ... so far with my Note7 ... perfectly fine, still looks like the day I opened it.
What issues did you have with your replacement that has caused them to replace the replacement?
This is an interesting test to run - i still have my original one, and the replacement, because Samsung decided the closest drop-off location for me is about 3.5-4 hours away without traffic... I'll be waiting until they call and give me another method to return it. Think I might carry it around and see how it holds up... would be an interesting test, as I'm pretty hard on my devices.
really good to hear your note 7 not scratching easily, I think most ef the people posting geting scratches out of the blue, were careless, honestly not remembering what could have probably scratched their phone, it just takes 2 or 3 people reporting the same thing to drive many others real paranoid, I got my note7 on 29th Aug, and not a single scratch, I treat my phone as any other one, if you spend a sizeable ammount of money, the best way to do is use common sense, and normal level of care
I've never used a screen protector on my original and now replacement Note and all is fine. Now I definitely use a case cause i find this phone too slippery without one... I do take caution, always put it down/away if distracted with something else and never place it in my pocket with anything else like your supposed to.
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What issues did you have with your replacement that has caused them to replace the replacement?
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The metal bezel on the left hand side of the phone is sharp, like almost razor-blade sharp. You cant see if from looking at it, but you can scrap your hand off it and it feels sharp and uncomfortable to hold. and the corners of the phone where the back glass meet the metal is also sharp on all 4 corners, the right side of the phone is smooth as silk though. very weird, but almost seems like it was clued together fast and off centered and shipped out to meet demand. $900 for a phone i HAS to be as perfect as possible, but this one wasn't forgivable.
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really good to hear your note 7 not scratching easily, I think most ef the people posting geting scratches out of the blue, were careless, honestly not remembering what could have probably scratched their phone, it just takes 2 or 3 people reporting the same thing to drive many others real paranoid, I got my note7 on 29th Aug, and not a single scratch, I treat my phone as any other one, if you spend a sizeable ammount of money, the best way to do is use common sense, and normal level of care
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Yep, just be careful, life happens and that's not up to you, but if you're careful and conscious of your phone on you you should be alright, my wife is horrible about that, I drive a beefed up semi-lifted truck and EVERY time she goes anywhere with me, she places her phone on her lap and then hops out of my truck forgetting the phone was sitting on her lap. Drives me nuts. Her Note 4 has seen some shxt in its day, but still looks good and functions perfect, she wants to upgrade to a Note 7 which i hope she does, but shes gonna have to start paying more attention, because one of those falls out of my truck is going to destroy a Note 7 lol. Clumsiness for the most part can be prevented, just being aware, my phone is the most expensive thing I carry on me, so I always make sure its protected, and to be honest I've seen people smash phones wrapped in tempered glass screen protectors and otter-boxes, stuff happens, but I do my best to avoid it.
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I've never used a screen protector on my original and now replacement Note and all is fine. Now I definitely use a case cause i find this phone too slippery without one... I do take caution, always put it down/away if distracted with something else and never place it in my pocket with anything else like your supposed to.
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Oh this phone naked is like holding a wet bar of soap, its horribly slippery, But I guess that's the price you pay for a beautiful glass device lol I enjoy the way the glass looks and feels, but I do fear the slipperiness of it, so for me again anytime I pull mine out of my pocket I always ensure my grip is on point, anytime I feel the need to "whip" my phone out really fast I take a breath and realize that i don't actually need to lol, and when I hold the phone, i comfortably hold it with my pinkie finger under it so the phone rests on my finger. Bottom line ... take care of your stuff and be mindful and you should be alright, people treat phones like crap then complain that it cant take a beating ... drives me nuts ... its glass. Treat it like a $900 piece of glass lol.
Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see. But they're definitely there. Especially the curved edges for the phone goes from flat to curved, almost as if right before the glass curves down the glass is right up just a fraction of a mm ...
I apologize to anyone I doubted!
I coddle this phone like an egg ... and still scratches .... The places I have scratches are the bottom back center (looks like a popular place if you search Note 7 scratches) and the bottom left corner of the front down by the capacitive button.
Both "patches" of scratches looks like they were rubbed off something rough, the scratches aren't deep, but you can still feel them with your nail ever so slightly and in the light the patches look dull compared to the rest of the phone. I'd bet they'd probably buff out, but I'm not gonna bother trying at least with this phone.
Never dropped, always in my pocket by itself, never slide it across the table or my desk or anything. I usually set it on something on my desk like a piece of paper and then slide the piece of paper around instead of the phone, so the back doesnt rub off anything, the paper eats the friction and not the phone.
Sad ... for sure, But luckily I have a replacement that just came in this morning sitting at home that i haven't opened yet, I think before I even set it up or anything I will protect it front and back ... damn shame, I had so much faith in this phones durability and didn't want to believe it was so scratch prone, but I was wrong.
Looks like Cases and Protectors from here on out!
I advise everyone who cares about their phone to do the same.
I'll slap some pictures up of my scratches as soon as I can get some taken.
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At least you have a replacement! I put a clear skin on the front and back of mine before I ever powered it on. I'm OCD and any scratches would annoy me and plus I want to keep it in mint condition so if I ever go to sell it on swappa it will be in like new condition. Even with the skin on it, I'm still babying it. What's crazy is my mother had an S4 and she is not easy on phones and after almost 2 years of use on that phone the sides and screen had not a scratch, not even a slight one (I know because I just sold it on swappa and inspected it very close). The screen and edges were still in like new mint condition. Only the removable plastic back had signs of wear. That's kind of sad when you think that a 3+ year old device made by the same company as the note 7 has a more durable screen. I replaced my V10 with the Note 7 and after months of use on my V10 with no protection it still looks new. I stopped using screen protectors and cases 3 years ago because I just hate the added bulk but unfortunately I'm not taking the chance with the Note 7. The clear skin doesn't really bother me though. And I'm thinking about also getting a calicase.
Anyway, thanks for the update. I'm glad I read all the post and not just the first one lol. I think you should edit post 1 so others who are lazy and only read post one don't go and take off their protection and then end up with scratched phones
P.S. I almost forgot. I'm actually on my second note 7 because the first one never made it out the store without getting scratched up. I had them put a screen protector on it for me and they took my phone in the back of the store for like 20 minutes and then come out with a poorly attached protector and then I inspected the phone and they had scratched the back up bad. So I made them replace it.
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At least you have a replacement! I put a clear skin on the front and back of mine before I ever powered it on. I'm OCD and any scratches would annoy me and plus I want to keep it in mint condition so if I ever go to sell it on swappa it will be in like new condition. Even with the skin on it, I'm still babying it. What's crazy is my mother had an S4 and she is not easy on phones and after almost 2 years of use on that phone the sides and screen had not a scratch, not even a slight one (I know because I just sold it on swappa and inspected it very close). The screen and edges were still in like new mint condition. Only the removable plastic back had signs of wear. That's kind of sad when you think that a 3+ year old device made by the same company as the note 7 has a more durable screen. I replaced my V10 with the Note 7 and after months of use on my V10 with no protection it still looks new. I stopped using screen protectors and cases 3 years ago because I just hate the added bulk but unfortunately I'm not taking the chance with the Note 7. The clear skin doesn't really bother me though. And I'm thinking about also getting a calicase.
Anyway, thanks for the update. I'm glad I read all the post and not just the first one lol. I think you should edit post 1 so others who are lazy and only read post one don't go and take off their protection and then end up with scratched phones
P.S. I almost forgot. I'm actually on my second note 7 because the first one never made it out the store without getting scratched up. I had them put a screen protector on it for me and they took my phone in the back of the store for like 20 minutes and then come out with a poorly attached protector and then I inspected the phone and they had scratched the back up bad. So I made them replace it.
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Lol good point, I updated the first post. And yeah I'm ridiculously anal with my devices, But i'm wondering if I need to start loosening up lol. I keep these phones pristine for a year then trade them in (AT&T) my last phone the S6 Edge + (Miss that phone) was M-I-N-T when I turned it in, protector on the front and back, which looking back at it now I realized that i suffered not having the full feel of the phone so that AT&T can sell it top dollar and the next person gets a great deal on a mint phone, who for all I know will; not care and destroy it. Now I'm not saying I'm gonna start being rough with my phone, gonna use my LED case more, and I just ordered a Skinomi Full body protector (we'll see how that goes, I don't have much faith in it) and if it feels like shxt, it's coming off and I'm gonna enjoy the phone as I have been, and get my moneys worth, and AT&T can figure out to do with it when I upgrade.
The Note 7 was designed to be naked, no doubt about it ... but the execution was botched and going naked comes with a price, which sucks, but again the fact is, this isn't my phone in the end, and as much as I love it, I know i wont pay it off once the Note 8 rears its head next year lol so screw it, I'll give the Skinomi Protector a shot, if it's crap, them I'm not gonna sweat the phone getting light scratches ... I'm having a bit of an anxiety attack just typing that, But i'll just have to work at it and get through it lol
Dmac1984 said:
Lol good point, I updated the first post. And yeah I'm ridiculously anal with my devices, But i'm wondering if I need to start loosening up lol. I keep these phones pristine for a year then trade them in (AT&T) my last phone the S6 Edge + (Miss that phone) was M-I-N-T when I turned it in, protector on the front and back, which looking back at it now I realized that i suffered not having the full feel of the phone so that AT&T can sell it top dollar and the next person gets a great deal on a mint phone, who for all I know will; not care and destroy it. Now I'm not saying I'm gonna start being rough with my phone, gonna use my LED case more, and I just ordered a Skinomi Full body protector (we'll see how that goes, I don't have much faith in it) and if it feels like shxt, it's coming off and I'm gonna enjoy the phone as I have been, and get my moneys worth, and AT&T can figure out to do with it when I upgrade.
The Note 7 was designed to be naked, no doubt about it ... but the execution was botched and going naked comes with a price, which sucks, but again the fact is, this isn't my phone in the end, and as much as I love it, I know i wont pay it off once the Note 8 rears its head next year lol so screw it, I'll give the Skinomi Protector a shot, if it's crap, them I'm not gonna sweat the phone getting light scratches ... I'm having a bit of an anxiety attack just typing that, But i'll just have to work at it and get through it lol
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I got the Skinomi clear skin and its been great so far. After you attach it give it a day to settle onto the phone because at first it doesn't look good but after a few hours I noticed it looked a lot better and the next day it looked perfect. The only problem I had was getting the sides to stick. I even used a blow dryer and I just couldn't get them to stay down but I ended up using the top burners on my stove to heat the edges up and then they stuck and they haven't come up since. The s-pen still slides smooth as well with the white inserts. It does have a bit of a texture which I could see would annoy some people but it doesn't really bother me.
What material are your pockets made out of, sandpaper? My original Note 7 (recall replacement arrives today) has never seen a case or screen protector and is completely unscathed. I have not even been as gentle as you described. So weird.
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Welp ... Fast forward 5 days, and I caught it in direct sunlight and this phone is just riddled with light scratches, you have to hold the phone just right and have the perfect lighting to see.
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I certainly believe your report of your observations and recollections, but your experience differs sharply from my own. I've been using unprotected Note 7s heavily (pre- and post-recall) for about a month, and I've acquired no scratches whatsoever.
When I check for scratches, I always use direct sunlight or a comparably bright source, and I rotate the phone through a range of angles in order to see any subtle defects. It sounds like that's not something you've been doing routinely, but rather something that just recently happened by chance. If that's the case, you may not really know when your scratches arose (or even whether your previous devices might have had similar scratches), which may complicate the diagnosis of how they occurred.
I trust we agree that the careful treatment you described could not have scratched even ordinary glass, let alone Gorilla Glass 5. So there are several possibilities. Perhaps the phone scraped against something sharp (even while it was in your pocket) without your noticing. Perhaps the process of applying or removing the case or screen protector scratched it somehow. Perhaps it came with subtle, hard-to-notice scratches already on it. Or could it even be that the phone isn't scratched, but rather has some sort of residue that rubbed off on it? (Have you tried washing it off with a wet paper towel and substantial pressure?)
Again, I trust your observations, but I'm curious as to how your scratches arose, and how your experience diverged from my own. I appreciate your taking the time to update everyone on your situation. And regardless of how the scratches happened, I'm glad you're getting a replacement.
Like i said, being so anal i looked at the phone everyday after naked use, never noticed any scratches, but last night I caught direct light at a side angle and saw the back bottom scratched, from 2 feet away from your eyes looking straight at the phone, looks perfect, up close and examining it with angled light it's def scratched.
When i say im careful, I'm careful... I got the cold sweats when i saw the scratches lol I've coddled thus phone with mittens since i got it, like i said I lay it on tbings and then move that whenever I set my phobe on my desk for no otger reason but to avoid sliding my phone on any surfaces ... pocket always empty and clean, I don't play in the dirt or go to the beach, pockets feel like normal clean pockets lol. I mean people can make excuses for tge glass, he'll i did too when i saw the initial scratch posts, even started a thread praising the scratch resistance ... I seriously don't know how much more careful you can be with a phone as i have been with this one and it still scuffed. I'll grab some pictures with the wife's phone and post them.
It almost seems like theres a raised lips right before the glass dipps down.
Attached is a pic illustrating the damage on my phone almost exactly (until i can grab a few pics) ... and also attached is why I think its happening.
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Attached is a pic illustrating the damage on my phone almost exactly (until i can grab a few pics) ... and also attached is why I think its happening.
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You just wanted to use the fancy s-pen features and that drawing was your excuse. ;P
And I don't blame you :laugh:
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Like i said, being so anal i looked at the phone everyday after naked use, never noticed any scratches, but last night I caught direct light at a side angle and saw the back bottom scratched, from 2 feet away from your eyes looking straight at the phone, looks perfect, up close and examining it with angled light it's def scratched.
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Right, that was my point. Until last night, your inspections didn't include checking the surfaces through a wide range of different illumination angles. As a result, subtle scratches went unnoticed and you don't know when they happened (or even if the phone came with them).
When i say im careful, I'm careful...
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I believe you. But something nevertheless scratched your phone--any idea what it could have been? You and I are both careful with our phones, yet only one of us acquired any scratches. There has to be some explanation for that difference. Figuring out what it is might help us, and others, to avoid scratches in the future.
It almost seems like theres a raised lips right before the glass dipps down.
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Hm, I don't see that on mine. May I ask what kind of screen protector(s) you had been using? If liquid, could it have left a residue? If solid, could the protector itself have scratched the glass that it was in contact with?
Or another possibility: if you used a case initially, could a few sand or grit particles have gotten lodged between the case and the phone? It looks as though the scratches may have been in areas that a case would have contact with. That's one of several reasons that I'd be reluctant to use a case with an all-glass phone.
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Right, that was my point. Until last night, your inspections didn't include checking the surfaces through a wide range of different illumination angles. As a result, subtle scratches went unnoticed and you don't know when they happened (or even if the phone came with them).
I believe you. But something nevertheless scratched your phone--any idea what it could have been? You and I are both careful with our phones, yet only one of us acquired any scratches. There has to be some explanation for that difference. Figuring out what it is might help us, and others, to avoid scratches in the future.
Hm, I don't see that on mine. May I ask what kind of screen protector(s) you had been using? If liquid, could it have left a residue? If solid, could the protector itself have scratched the glass that it was in contact with?
Or another possibility: if you used a case initially, could a few sand or grit particles have gotten lodged between the case and the phone? It looks as though the scratches may have been in areas that a case would have contact with. That's one of several reasons that I'd be reluctant to use a case with an all-glass phone.
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No case or screen protectors since I got this phone last Sunday (Oct 25th) I didn't recall any scratches on my recalled unit so I didn't bother with protecting the replacement. But regardless, I don't recalled a single incident in which would result in these scratches, so they must have happened during light use of the phone, how they happened? I don't know ... but they did .... The glass just seems soft and easily scratch-able. It shouldn't be, but unfortunately it is. And agreed, I've seen scratches come up from case use on my phones before so that is always a concern, but I didn't use a case on this phone, and I never sat the phone down on a hard surface, and never in a pocket with anything else, and the weird isolated scratched areas don't show signs of "pocket damage" ... they came from somewhere I get that, but wherever they came from, they happened with no effort or force.
Inspected my new phone that came in yesterday. Not a single scratch to be found in any light ... Screen protector should be in today so it'll get wrapped before I even use it and we'll try again ... I recommend to anyone who has a Note 7, wrap it up and keep it clean, this issue just may not be avoidable with everyday use.
Is GG5 on the back as well as the front? My rear is scratched only after 2 weeks replacement and general it wears a case. NOT impressed.
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But regardless, I don't recalled a single incident in which would result in these scratches, so they must have happened during light use of the phone
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Well, the phone wasn't scratched by the skin of your hand, the cloth of your pocket, or the piece of paper you rested it on, so there must have been some other contact that you're unaware of. (I'll occasionally notice a small cut or bruise on my arm without recalling what contact was responsible. It happens.)
Regardless, thanks again for the update you posted, and good luck with your new Note 7. If my Note 7 ever suffers the slightest scratch, I will follow your example and post an update here too. So far, a month of heavy, unprotected use has not resulted in any visible imperfection.
I don't get why people are nitpicking this. I get this tone of "maybe you were careful but not careful enough". It sounds like we are discussing handling an egg.
The physics of it are simple and irrefutable, this thing will scratch, there is no way around it. And just because one hasn't scratched yet, or appears that way, doesn't mean it won't.
At this point, regardless of what anyone says or who wants to debate, it's safe to say yhe phone WILL scratch with normal, even careful use. I was one who thought "well the people with scratches must be abusing their phones" but as i type this on a scuffed, yet coddled Note7 I stand corrected. It doesn't affect my love for the phone but it should be noted that it WILL scratch easily regardless of how you treat it, i wish it didn't ... but it does. And I don't think it's batched based, pretty sure maybe even if you dont see any scratches there are probably some on your phone as I found by badically doing a microscopic forensic look at my phone the other day, the shinyness of thr glass seems to hide a lot of imperfections.
In Google's launch day blog post, it stated that both the front display and the back glass are constructed from 2.5D Corning® Gorilla® Glass 4.
There seems to be a large number of people who have received their devices complaining that the back glass scratches surprisingly easily, and a number of reviews (both written and video) cite the same, such as shown in JerryRigEverything's video review at 1:44.
This has me concerned that we're not actually getting Gorilla Glass 4 for the back glass, or if we are, it may be a defective batch. I'll be the first to proclaim my lack of knowledge on the stuff, but shouldn't the actual hardness, i.e. resistance to scratching, be the same regardless of shape, thickness, etc? I could easily understand a difference in brittleness if it is thinner, for example, but these reports have me concerned.
Any thoughts?
well i case my phones right away and have never had any scratches on the back of my phones .... jump to today i too my pixel out of my otterbox defender case to return the case for a slightly thinner case and guess what the back glass has a scratch in it that wasn't there before it went in, i checked the inside of the case and couldnt find anything that would have done that. not a big deal since its going back in a case but im a little ocd so it does bother me a bit that its there
Yeah I had heard the same thing in some reviews.
I can tell you first hand that it does seem to mark easily. I have two fine hairline scratches on the back on min. I assume from keys in my pocket.
I have been using it without a case because I can't seem to find one I like. They all seem too bulky.
My front glass also has a tiny mark on it, from a key I assume. My Note 7 had the same thing within days as well. First time in the last several phones that have gotten scratches in the glass. I either have a really hard and sharp new key or the properties of the glass has changed. I know that impact resistant does not mean scratch resistant. Take a look at the Moto Z force to find that out! For what it is worth I do not think you are alone.
I understand that scratch-resistant ≠ scratch-proof, but for those who prefer to carry a phone naked (I'm talking about the phone!) it would be a pretty big letdown to find out Google didn't provide the product as it advertised it, whether it be failure on part of someone responsible for final production spec letting the marketing group know if there were a change in the glass, an issue of Corning sending the wrong glass, a defective production run, etc.
I suppose my concern is that if there is, as there appears to be, some legitimate issue, they 'fix' it with later production runs and ship the phone with glass to spec going forward, with my only recourse being to deal with it or maybe have them replace it with what would likely be a refurbished phone, either event seriously deteriorating the phone's residual value down the road should I choose to sell it.
Just putting it out there, I have Google Clear cased my phone from new, and I a few small marks now. Assume it's bits caught in the case.
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Yeah I had heard the same thing in some reviews.
I can tell you first hand that it does seem to mark easily. I have two fine hairline scratches on the back on min. I assume from keys in my pocket.
I have been using it without a case because I can't seem to find one I like. They all seem too bulky.
My front glass also has a tiny mark on it, from a key I assume. My Note 7 had the same thing within days as well. First time in the last several phones that have gotten scratches in the glass. I either have a really hard and sharp new key or the properties of the glass has changed. I know that impact resistant does not mean scratch resistant. Take a look at the Moto Z force to find that out! For what it is worth I do not think you are alone.
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I cringed twice while reading this. I too carry my phone in my left pocket, which is exclusive. I don't even stick my hand into the pocket if my hand is dirty. I also don't wipe off the screen on my shirt. Sand is a killer!
Also on that note higher number Corning Gorilla glass doesn't necessarily mean it's "better" more resistant..
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I understand that scratch-resistant ≠ scratch-proof, but for those who prefer to carry a phone naked (I'm talking about the phone!) it would be a pretty big letdown to find out Google didn't provide the product as it advertised it, whether it be failure on part of someone responsible for final production spec letting the marketing group know if there were a change in the glass, an issue of Corning sending the wrong glass, a defective production run, etc.
I suppose my concern is that if there is, as there appears to be, some legitimate issue, they 'fix' it with later production runs and ship the phone with glass to spec going forward, with my only recourse being to deal with it or maybe have them replace it with what would likely be a refurbished phone, either event seriously deteriorating the phone's residual value down the road should I choose to sell it.
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I completely agree with you. I had hoped to carry the phone without a case since it was't as slippery as the all glass Samsung.
I usually keep it in its own pocket but not a particular one, its a product of having your hands full put the keys in the same pocket long enough to walk to the door. I try to keep it separate, but screw it up from time to time. Like with gym shorts, does it go with the magnetic money clip or the keys? Keys don't go with the magnet bc I don't want to kill the battery in my truck remote.. Talk about 1st world problems
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I completely agree with you. I had hoped to carry the phone without a case since it was't as slippery as the all glass Samsung.
I usually keep it in its own pocket but not a particular one, its a product of having your hands full put the keys in the same pocket long enough to walk to the door. I try to keep it separate, but screw it up from time to time. Like with gym shorts, does it go with the magnetic money clip or the keys? Keys don't go with the magnet bc I don't want to kill the battery in my truck remote.. Talk about 1st world problems
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I don't think magnets mess with batteries but if that were true the magnet would mess with your phone's battery plus its internal components