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http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/verizo...g-from-touchscreen-problems-video-19-12-2011/
http://www.google.co.uk/webhp?rlz=1...sb&fp=9b9cf807851d05d7&biw=1440&bih=839&ion=1
How many people are having this issue?
Ive had it since purchase and im on 4.0.2 now (manually updated) and still having issues.
I have no idea if google or samsung are aware of this but a quick search on google brings up loads of articles about it.
If you not sure download a multi touch test app from the market and follow as they do on the video.
While in landscape mode with the power button at the top the right hand side of the screen will being temperamental which you try to have more than one point on touch on the screen.
I noticed this issue playing heavy gunner today
Unfortunate
Rellikzephyr
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Noticed while playing n64oid
Going to be fixed in 4.0.3 afaik
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I get it playing anything which requires multi touch. Causes modern combat 3 to be un-playable.
Can be fixed sometime by turning screen off and on.
Dont forget to vote if you have it.
Here my Galaxy Nexus yesterday night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNlfGo3YrnQ
Multitouch issue for the first time.
Had this issue a couple times. This truly is the predecessor to the nexus one lol
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oke this is a copy of my thread here :Gnex Game thread
"Oke.
just to point this out and help a couple of people.
the current state of gaming on the Gnex is..rater terrible.
Allot of game's camp with the multitouch error/glitch/compatibility.
Yes multitouch doesnt work how it should work.
The cause of this might be the SB(software buttons)
and an API that needs to be implemented to the game to hide the SB.
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as this might be actually the issue.. that apps dont have the right API/support for the Gnex.
all the linkts and video's you posted are apps that arent native and dont support the GNex at all.
yes they run.but as soon as you get close to the SB you get issue's.
and there is the problem.
the apps need to include the hide SB api that are in the native gnex apps.
there is your problem.
not all apps are affected by this issue due to apps being programmed differently.
(different API level or coding)
as soons as GTA3 has gnex support,than we can see if i was right or you were.
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Going to be fixed in 4.0.3 afaik
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Nope still occurs w 4.0.3
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Because its not an ICS nor GNEX issue.
Download unity3D put 2 touchpads next to each other.
and walah. the same result.
its the App thats making the issue(not being compatible with Gnex)
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Had this issue a couple times. This truly is the predecessor to the nexus one lol
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It has a bad screen and can travel back through time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Zfi3i1ejs
here. i made a video.
just have to wait until they update the games.(rockstar is gone update it[version 1.1 isnt the GNEX update])
its conflicting with the software buttons cuz they arent hidden(they should when the games support Gnex just like tablets not having the bottom bar when playing)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Zfi3i1ejs
here. i made a video.
just have to wait until they update the games.(rockstar is gone update it[version 1.1 isnt the GNEX update])
its conflicting with the software buttons cuz they arent hidden(they should when the games support Gnex just like tablets not having the bottom bar when playing)
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Why would turning screen off and back on fix it for a while?
I hope it is easily fixed but i hope its in android source rather than apps as thats alot of incompatible apps.
Whew. Just tested. Multitouch is perfect!
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Mines great used 6 points all over the screen with no issues
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my multitouch issue only happens with heavy gunners. Once I play heavy gunners, I can see the multitouch issue.
I don't have this issue when playing shadowgun or deadspace.
The first time I tried the multitouch issue it appeared, but after that I have tried a lot of times and is impossible to reproduce the error againg. Eitherway, I have played a lot of times to Modern Combat 2 and I have never had any kind of problem with the multitouch.
BTW, when I achieved reproducing the error, it was just in the typical position of the onscreen controls for games and emulators and just in the left side of the screen if I look it in portrait mode, was strange, in the right side it worked fine, but in the left side not
Mine happens just like in the video. Works perfectly fine until I play a game like heavy gunner, then I get issues. Turn the screen off then back on and everything works again.
edit: Actually, toggling the screen off and back on during the game seems to fix multitouch in-game too
I have the same issue in GTA3 and N64oid.. I hope it will work in updated versions of these apps.
this is what happen to me:
If i'm chargin the phone multitouch goes crazy and doesn't work,litteraly impossible to use, if i unplug the power cord, put the screen off and back on everithing goes back to normal, since i' testing the multitouch with antutu so i'm sure of this bug,
So if only battery powered multitouch ok!
With power cord plugged in multitouch not ok!
let me know what do you think.
Just wondering if anyone else has the same issues that I get with the stock browser.
It seems quite sluggish when scrolling but the main problem is when zooming in, it is slow to redraw. When zooming out I get a large white screen around the part I was looking at and have to wait a couple of seconds for it to redraw. I have looked at various browser hands on one YouTube and none seem to have this issue.
It also seems to just close itself occasionally with no error message.
Thanks for any input.
I've installed Chrome beta and it offers a lot better browsing experience. It doesnt seem to have the redrawing bug when you zoom in.
Those reviews on the Internet have an updated version of the OS. Most likely this update fixed the issue.
Ya, the browser is terrible slow when it comes to scrolling and pinch to zoom. But I never had a delay of seconds. Definitely something wrong btw with some lower level implementations . Stock ICS browser has the same problems.
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How nice for HTC to make sure the review devices were updated hehe.
Maybe I have been spoiled with the browser experience on my Galaxy S2 with a custom rom . Pretty sure back when that was new I had similar issues.
At least some noted developers are already here and working on Roms.
Will give Chrome a try too.
Don't know if this for sure, but i faced non of the phone arena touch issues
i had 3 fingers gestures disabled in the phone settings and hence had full multitouch
if someone can confirm it works better with full multitouch?
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Just wondering if anyone else has the same issues that I get with the stock browser.
It seems quite sluggish when scrolling but the main problem is when zooming in, it is slow to redraw. When zooming out I get a large white screen around the part I was looking at and have to wait a couple of seconds for it to redraw. I have looked at various browser hands on one YouTube and none seem to have this issue.
It also seems to just close itself occasionally with no error message.
Thanks for any input.
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Sounds weird. I spend at least 4 hours browsing on my phone everyday (news, forums, deviantart, 500px, etc) and I honestly cannot compare my experience to any other. It's butterly smooth, fast as hell, and most vivid. My only complaint is the battery life, I can't get more than 5 hours of browsing on WiFi...no matter what.
I think you may have a rogue app in the background. Try reflashing your stock ROM without restoring any apps, and see if the problem continues.
Cheers
this video shows exactly how i described the browser, locked 60fps with only the tiling/flash effect when the page snaps, happens in split second, first time i experienced such a smooth stock browser, its much smoother than opera mobile
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=KATvmiBcXvw&nomobile=1
im convinced the issues you guys mention are related to the 3 touch gesture mode in settings, i had this setting disabled
I had lag also and when i got the phone ran the multi touch and would only record 2 fingers max, disabled HTC's 3 finger swipe and now it is very responsive. Ran the test again and now records up to 9 fingers.
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I had lag also and when i got the phone ran the multi touch and would only record 2 fingers max, disabled HTC's 3 finger swipe and now it is very responsive. Ran the test again and now records up to 9 fingers.
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hold on a second! first thanks for confirming the browser issues are related to this setting
maybe this is the cause of all problems!
3 finger swipe is actually used to send the image/mirror to the HDMI output, maybe its causing the other issues?
I should thank you for bring up disabling the 3 finger swipe which reminded me of the the touch sensor test i ran when i got the phone.
Thanks.
I have tried so manu variations of the settings and tried to google but I cant find a solution to my problem.
Its laggy and the sound is not right.
Is anyone playing ff7 on there nexus, what settings are you using in that case?
It worked pretty well at first, but the sound was off.
Ive bought it so its the newest version.
Not an issue with the phone. It is like that on every phone.
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Not an issue with the phone. It is like that on every phone.
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ok. but whats the optimal settings then?
Seems to work better w/o the openGL plugin. But still the sound is weird.
When I played it on my tb I disabled the sound; seemed to help the frame rate. Either way its a novelty.
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When I played it on my tb I disabled the sound; seemed to help the frame rate. Either way its a novelty.
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Isnt there any other solution? Cause i want the music ingame.
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Maybe its time to go buy an old psone and FF7.
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Then I would just buy it for my ps3. But I want it on my phone.Thats like the only game thats playable with a touchscreen.
Eh that's what hooking your ps3 controller to your phone is for . I don't mean to be a jerk by any means but if its like that in all phones. This phone won't be an exception. I just use my laptop as my emulator station a lot less bugs.
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I would find the newest version of psx4droid (NOT the one in the market). FPSe is very slow on ICS/GNexus and I have never been able to get it to work right. psx4droid will work correctly right after installing it.
I play FF7 through my phone onto my TV with a PS3 controller, works pretty well. I would supply a link but I am at work at the moment. If you can't find it, I will update this post once I can.
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I would find the newest version of psx4droid (NOT the one in the market). FPSe is very slow on ICS/GNexus and I have never been able to get it to work right. psx4droid will work correctly right after installing it.
I play FF7 through my phone onto my TV with a PS3 controller, works pretty well. I would supply a link but I am at work at the moment. If you can't find it, I will update this post once I can.
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That would be awesome! Thanks!
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I would find the newest version of psx4droid (NOT the one in the market). FPSe is very slow on ICS/GNexus and I have never been able to get it to work right. psx4droid will work correctly right after installing it.
I play FF7 through my phone onto my TV with a PS3 controller, works pretty well. I would supply a link but I am at work at the moment. If you can't find it, I will update this post once I can.
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Oh so theres an newer version then the one in the market? Cause I tried psx4droid at it was the same. Gonna see if i can find it then. But I read somewhere that the stopped developing psx4droid?
Edit: I got 3.0.7. But thats laggy too.
How exactly are you doing to run it well?
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Oh so theres an newer version then the one in the market? Cause I tried psx4droid at it was the same. Gonna see if i can find it then. But I read somewhere that the stopped developing psx4droid?
Edit: I got 3.0.7. But thats laggy too.
How exactly are you doing to run it well?
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Hmm where is it lagging for you? I am in the middle of disc 2 and the only thing that has lagged on me is the part where you try to stop the train from running into Barret's little town (forgot what it's called).
I am on AOKP and Franco, just installed GlaDOS to try to get some more performance but it is pretty playable.
edit: Try this on FPSe and see if it works for you. I don't have mine setup so I can't try it out.
go in fpse.ini file and set DisStereo=1
Will need root explorer or something to get to the FPSe directory but it might help.
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Hmm where is it lagging for you? I am in the middle of disc 2 and the only thing that has lagged on me is the part where you try to stop the train from running into Barret's little town (forgot what it's called).
I am on AOKP and Franco, just installed GlaDOS to try to get some more performance but it is pretty playable.
edit: Try this on FPSe and see if it works for you. I don't have mine setup so I can't try it out.
go in fpse.ini file and set DisStereo=1
Will need root explorer or something to get to the FPSe directory but it might help.
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Ive already changed the DisStereo=1 and I thought i was all good. It was in the starter town after blowing the first reactor. But as soon as i left with the train it got unplayable.
Im on stock yakju, but I know people were playing it with their xperia minis without lag. So something else has to be the problem.
Doesnt the sound lag for you? What settings do you use?
edit: ive got scph1001.bin bios and a ntsc-u game.
I can't understand why i cant get rid of the lag when people with half the performance is saying their playing it without. Isnt it suppose to be able to play without a problem?
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nöt said:
I have tried so manu variations of the settings and tried to google but I cant find a solution to my problem.
Its laggy and the sound is not right.
Is anyone playing ff7 on there nexus, what settings are you using in that case?
It worked pretty well at first, but the sound was off.
Ive bought it so its the newest version.
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On my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, I've gotten it to minimal lag by enabling dual core mode (in my version it's done by default and the option is actually "force mono core" but I don't have it enabled) with the following things enabled under the "video" settings:
framelimiter
frameskip
and that's it. I also have my processor overclocked and i do NOT have the OpenGL plugin installed (don't do it).
The sound is messed up and don't EVER use Tifa's limit breaks during boss fights (freezes right up), but otherwise I run at a pretty consistent 60fpt.
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On my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, I've gotten it to minimal lag by enabling dual core mode (in my version it's done by default and the option is actually "force mono core" but I don't have it enabled) with the following things enabled under the "video" settings:
framelimiter
frameskip
and that's it. I also have my processor overclocked and i do NOT have the OpenGL plugin installed (don't do it).
The sound is messed up and don't EVER use Tifa's limit breaks during boss fights (freezes right up), but otherwise I run at a pretty consistent 60fpt.
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ok. But your sound is still messed up? Cause I actually want the sound too work.
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ok. But your sound is still messed up? Cause I actually want the sound too work.
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It's strange, if you download the OpenGL plugin, the sound is actually fixed (well, 85% of the time anyway), but then strange things start to happen randomly. I've had menus go missing---namely the battle menu during battles---and sprites go missing (sprites are video game programmer speak for pictures of things). Like the little white hand that points at "continue" or "new game" on the load screen disappears. So I just deal with the sound being messed up. I'd rather have smooth game play than fully functional sound.
Mind you, the music actually plays correctly, but it sounds like a stereo recording trying to play out of a mono speaker set up, like there's a speaker that's broken and not playing. Probably something that'll get fixed eventually.
In either case, DO NOT USE TIFA'S LIMIT BREAKS DURING BOSS BATTLES. I've had the game freeze on me half a dozen times during that first boss battle she's in during the 5th Mako Reactor and during the Sewer Boss after the "cloud dresses in drag" scene. During regular battles she seems to be okay, but boss battles freeze up bad enough to have to restart.
Hope I helped out I'm currently about to bust into the Shinra HQ for the first time (way early in the game lol). I love my ps3 controller set up on there too. It feels just like playing when i was a kid...but on mute...damn sound
Hm, that's weird that it is lagging. I played the whole of FFVII on my Nexus One using FPse without any lag whatsoever. Is it like this for all the PS1 games you are trying or only FFVII?
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Hm, that's weird that it is lagging. I played the whole of FFVII on my Nexus One using FPse without any lag whatsoever. Is it like this for all the PS1 games you are trying or only FFVII?
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I've only tried ff7 so far cause that's the only game I'm interested in. But I'm gonna try ff8 and see if that runs well.
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I got the psx4droid 3.0.7beta which is the last one to ever be released, but I don't know if it's okay to upload it here even if ZodTTD put it out as permanently free.
Hi
In every list that one should drag to scroll down there's always a stutter at first before the list starts to move. How can it be that a device with 4 or 5 cors could behave like this? Just curious
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ToddeSwe said:
Hi
In every list that one should drag to scroll down there's always a stutter at first before the list starts to move. How can it be that a device with 4 or 5 cors could behave like this? Just curious
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It might be due to the ramping up of the cpu's, and the time before it ramps up. These values can be customized*. Also remember that sense is not the most ui friendly rom(skin). If you are rooted, and tried any of the jb roms, you would know what I'm talking about.
*Requires root.
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It might be due to the ramping up of the cpu's, and the time before it ramps up. These values can be customized*. Also remember that sense is not the most ui friendly rom(skin). If you are rooted, and tried any of the jb roms, you would know what I'm talking about.
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Not rooted on this device because I've had the WiFi problem on 8 devices. Don't dare to void my warranty or risk having to pay for the repair.
Are you saying that jb doesn't have this fenomen? If so I'm really looking forward to it even more.
I'm waiting for s-off then I dare to root.
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Not rooted on this device because I've had the WiFi problem on 8 devices. Don't dare to void my warranty or risk having to pay for the repair.
Are you saying that jb doesn't have this fenomen? If so I'm really looking forward to it even more.
I'm waiting for s-off then I dare to root.
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No, it doesn't, and it's so smooth it's actually scary. At least the aosp builds don't have lag. Whether the Htc version will be the same, remains to be seen.
I have to admit the feeling can't be described. Bad to hear about that 8 devices which all had wifi problems.
ToddeSwe said:
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In every list that one should drag to scroll down there's always a stutter at first before the list starts to move. How can it be that a device with 4 or 5 cors could behave like this? Just curious
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Do you have some specific examples? In pulling down menus from Settings and scrolling through them mine doesn't stutter. I think a lot of individual performance issues are based on what apps (and their quality), monitors, analyzers, and tweakers you have running and/or in the background. Tasker is a good example because it's always monitoring the phone for movement or an action even if it's not doing anything. Here's an interesting article about how Android paints the screen. Even eight cores wouldn't make a difference. Maybe JB will change things. FWIW, there are tons of pages of discussions about stuttering issues in the SGS3 forum too. The thing both phones have in common are overlays and tons of OEM apps running in the background.
Android Graphics
https://plus.google.com/10505198573...8x93s#105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
SGS3 Stuttering
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757344
Man! i honestly thought htc wasn't doing bad on this quad-core phone......... Until i tried the unfinished jelly bean roms. After flashing back to even the test rom, i was really shocked. This is really incredible for a quad core. It stutters so much it's crazy. Even the app drawer lags. I just charged my phone to flash a jelly bean room. HECK, it's not just jelly bean, i was doing fine on ICS CM9 ROM. Is it sense?
As for the wifi problem, that just adds more fuel to the fire for people who buy an htc device for the first time, my first experience with HTC is really not as nice as i would have hoped it would be. Sadly i realized my WIFI problem after rooting. I didn't make a nandroid back up and without an RUU i can't see myself getting back to stock unless someone who is also on the same provider as i am is willing share their nandroid back up with me so i can send it in for repair - not blaming htc on this one...just HOPE I'M NOT CHARGED FOR H/W FAULT that comes from them.
I can wait at the moment to get my wifi repaired.Can't say i am satisfied with the device. One thing that's for certain is it's not the hardware in the phone that's the issue. I can only hope HTC does the right thing when it comes to this device.
HTC Sense is beautiful compared to Jelly bean , that just visually. However the lag that comes with it outweighs the beauty. That's my take on all of this so far. Hope they do the right thing.
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Do you have some specific examples? In pulling down menus from Settings and scrolling through them mine doesn't stutter. I think a lot of individual performance issues are based on what apps (and their quality), monitors, analyzers, and tweakers you have running and/or in the background. Tasker is a good example because it's always monitoring the phone for movement or an action even if it's not doing anything. Here's an interesting article about how Android paints the screen. Even eight cores wouldn't make a difference. Maybe JB will change things. FWIW, there are tons of pages of discussions about stuttering issues in the SGS3 forum too. The thing both phones have in common are overlays and tons of OEM apps running in the background.
Android Graphics
https://plus.google.com/10505198573...8x93s#105051985738280261832/posts/2FXDCz8x93s
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1757344
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Using the stock browser go to the youtube desktop site and scroll around, pinch zoom
If you have a lot of music open the music app go to song view and scroll
use the tapatalk xda app
let the device sleep for a while then immediately open the app draw and scroll around
scroll in the gmail app
Those are some examples of the stutters that annoy me with htc roms, it may be a little nit picky but a quad core device should be able to do all the things listed above with ease.
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Man! i honestly thought htc wasn't doing bad on this quad-core phone......... Until i tried the unfinished jelly bean roms.
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Were you using the stock ROM and JB the same way? My One X flies after a hard reset but once I load my 97 apps and have my ten syncs running in the background it's noticably slower (but still five times faster than the i9100 it replaced). I got to try out a (S4) SGS3 for a few days. It wasn't any faster than my One X with the same apps and syncs running and I noticed the launcher issue talked about in the thread I posted above. The browser's faster because it's a Samsung strength and HTC weakness. A car accelerates differently with one passenger than it does with five while also towing a trailer.
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Using the stock browser go to the youtube desktop site and scroll around, pinch zoom
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I don't even have to try this one. HTC's known for their pretty average stock browsers. I keep using it because I use the "read" button a lot. Samsung ditched reflow in the SGS3 to ensure a smoother browsing experience. Users aren't too happy.
If you have a lot of music open the music app go to song view and scroll
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With a song playing via BT, I scrolled through songs and it didn't stuttter. I have about 1K songs stored on my phone.
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Don't use it.
let the device sleep for a while then immediately open the app draw and scroll around
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Turned it on, unlocked it, went right to the app drawer and started scrolling. I noticed some drag in the transition from one page to another that went away the more I kept scrolling.
scroll in the gmail app
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I get Gmail through the stock app.
Can be either the lack of preparation (has to dump whatever it was going to render and render a new one), which triple buffering solves, or garbage collection being done, which is most commonly manifest as random FPS drops while scrolling through a long list. The first will be fixed in 4.1, the second requires disabling the Dalvik scroll cache.
Hi guys I just bought my Tab S 10.5 (T800) a couple of days ago, however I'm finding some annoyances, that are giving me a headache when using it and are making me think, to return it
1) When i'm scrolling a website or flipboard in my usual way/speed the text/images appears to jump a tinny bit like if it's stuttering, instead of smooth transitions.
2) When the keyboard "launches" it doesn't matter if I turn off the animations or put them at .5 or 1x, when on the browser I'm trying to type something on a search bar there is a white tail before and after the keyboard launch, this tail makes the content on the bottom of the keyboard to appears like a flash. However this doesn't happen when trying to type an url, This is better noticed on a dark background for example go to this site mary-black.net (or whatever site which has an embedded search and uses a dark background) and launch the keyboard trying to type something on the search bar and then hide the keyboard.
The keyboard "white tail" doesn't happen on my sero 7 pro running an AOSP rom, however it has some stuttering while browsing, but I though it was because some kind of underpower, because my S4 running a touchwiz rom it doesn't stutter at all it's like butter on every single scrolling page/app/etc but it has also that "white tail" sometimes but it's so quick and is not my main browsing device, so I was trying to replace my main tablet an ipad 2 (7.1.2) which it browse like a champ exactly as my S4 and is way better than this Tab S
yeah I have tried a lot of browsers, maxthon, chrome, firefox,opera, dolphin, boat, and the less worst is the stock one
Oh and also it seems to not hold webpages on ram, because when I go to a link and then go back, instead of showing me the content right away, it shows a blank page and suddenly the content, however this a problem because if i was on a search or something it brings me to the top of the page again, and also typing something on a search is laggy, the letter don't go with the keystroke.
BTW: I don't use touchwiz launcher, I'm using nova/apex.
I have enabled also Force GPU Rendering and Turn off/on hardware overlays. nothing seems to fix it.
Also have found that the performance is not consistent at all, sometimes the apps load very fast, browse very fast and it's a pleasure, but sometimes it lags, yeah not like a minute or so, but the overall experience using it, is not something I was expecting, I was expecting at least the same behavior of my S4 and S2 and way better than my old ipad 2, and unfortunately none of those are met
Any ideas ?
Thanks.
You need to do a video to prove it, that's how it goes around here.
1) same here. I is only slight stuttering and only when scrolling intensively, but it is noticeable. I tried all the browsers, but best in this regard is stock browser, followed by chrome browser (which I currently use). Some of the other browsers have even more severe problems regarding scrolling and also impose certain lag registering scroll gesture.
2) I am using TouchPal and not seeing any keyboard "white tail".
3) Webpage caching: yes, it does not keep pages in RAM and requires a reload. Particularly annoying when on a mobile connection. I've not yet come across any browser that does a proper RAM caching of pages. Also the OS seems to grab the RAM. E.g., when you have multiple tabs open and switch between Apps it does reload all the tabs. Ridiculous. At 3GB the Tab S should have plenty of RAM.
Overall the Tab S hardware is capable enough to provide a smooth user experience even with the above issues. But still I am hoping for some fix.
Probably some tweak of the memory management could help? Also investigation of background load. Seemingly there are to many services that do indexing, report back to Google or Samsung, check updates etc. Probably also the Mali-T628 GPU has some premature driver implementation? Or maybe the Samsung color enhancement for AMOLED is the culprit?
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You need to do a video to prove it, that's how it goes around here.
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Cool, I have a feeling that you tough I was trolling , well here they are, this one shows the ugly white tale, and it also happens using google keyboard, and any keyboard.
http://youtu.be/kfUbyTVjF6I
As you can see that "white tale" is not present when trying to type an url.
Here is one with the stutter very visible.
http://youtu.be/f9DHYdlc4d0
Here is one showing the reloading on going back. which btw it also shows how with only one finger touching the screen it sometimes act as 2 (pinch to zoom) this little problem is very rare but it's not the first time has happen, and you can see the lag on the keyboard before launching also, there is that "white" then the keyboard.
fingers http://youtu.be/axCsmkgCXws
Here is one comparing the scrolling on the same content first the ipad 2 and then the tab S
http://youtu.be/0TYgm43eBxc
The ipad also has a bit stuttering, but not as much as the S, which IMO this should not be happening, the S has way more power/ram than the old ipad 2
I hope yours is not acting like this, could you please provide a video if yours is working at it supposed to be..
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1) same here. I is only slight stuttering and only when scrolling intensively, but it is noticeable. I tried all the browsers, but best in this regard is stock browser, followed by chrome browser (which I currently use). Some of the other browsers have even more severe problems regarding scrolling and also impose certain lag registering scroll gesture.
2) I am using TouchPal and not seeing any keyboard "white tail".
3) Webpage caching: yes, it does not keep pages in RAM and requires a reload. Particularly annoying when on a mobile connection. I've not yet come across any browser that does a proper RAM caching of pages. Also the OS seems to grab the RAM. E.g., when you have multiple tabs open and switch between Apps it does reload all the tabs. Ridiculous. At 3GB the Tab S should have plenty of RAM.
Overall the Tab S hardware is capable enough to provide a smooth user experience even with the above issues. But still I am hoping for some fix.
Probably some tweak of the memory management could help? Also investigation of background load. Seemingly there are to many services that do indexing, report back to Google or Samsung, check updates etc. Probably also the Mali-T628 GPU has some premature driver implementation? Or maybe the Samsung color enhancement for AMOLED is the culprit?
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Yeah the more you start using the tablet, the more stuttering it appears, and also when trying to open the recent apps, sometimes there is also a lot of lag until everything appear. The problem with this is they are not predictable.
I tried that keyboard and is doing me exactly the same (white tale), I think this is because instead of launching the keyboard and the placeholder at the same time, they are launched a different time, and I have just confirmed this enabling Layout boundaries under developer options. :/
My 8.4 works exactly as yours. That's how it is.
white tale seems to be some re-rendering issue of the app, not the keyboard.
One might check with Cyanogenmod whether it persists there too. Pretty sure it is some SW issue, HW should be plenty capable.
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My 8.4 works exactly as yours. That's how it is.
white tale seems to be some re-rendering issue of the app, not the keyboard.
One might check with Cyanogenmod whether it persists there too. Pretty sure it is some SW issue, HW should be plenty capable.
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I bet it's software issues, launching the placeholder for the keyboard before and after the keyboard. But to be honest I don't want to install Cyanogen or aosp to this tablet, because that will break sidesync, multi window, s planner and s finder. if I would need to flash those roms to be able to enjoy the hardware then I would go with a boring but trusty ipad or wait to see what is announced on september at the IFA.
- Similar hardware used on phones with 1080p screen to drive 1600p screen, which is almost twice as many pixels to render. The GPU is working extra hard but should still cope.
- TouchWiz makes this much worse and through past discussions, this is mostly the cause of the lags and stutters. If you use some other popular launcher, lags and stutters would almost be non-existent.
- iOS on iPads and iPhones are smooth because Apple only need to focus on optimising on their own hardware. Android on the other hand has to work on so many combinations of hardware out there, it's much more difficult to make things buttery smooth like iOS.
I see these issues as well on my 8.4, but not enough to get bothered by it, but would welcome any improvement through OTAs.
Replacing the launcher has zero effect on anything except launching an app!
There might be some touchwiz related code behind the scenes, but to replace that you need a revised ROM.
ShadowFlare said:
- Similar hardware used on phones with 1080p screen to drive 1600p screen, which is almost twice as many pixels to render. The GPU is working extra hard but should still cope.
- TouchWiz makes this much worse and through past discussions, this is mostly the cause of the lags and stutters. If you use some other popular launcher, lags and stutters would almost be non-existent.
- iOS on iPads and iPhones are smooth because Apple only need to focus on optimising on their own hardware. Android on the other hand has to work on so many combinations of hardware out there, it's much more difficult to make things buttery smooth like iOS.
I see these issues as well on my 8.4, but not enough to get bothered by it, but would welcome any improvement through OTAs.
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I'm using Nova or Apex, yeah those don't have lag on the major of transitions, but sometimes they stutter just a bit, yeah not a breaking deal. But the stuttering while browsing/reading and the keyboard issue is making me have headaches, and that will not be solved using another launcher.
I understand that point regarding iOS, but trust me, my S4 is running on a touchwiz rom and it doesn't act like this tab S, geez even my old S2 never acted like this.
Regarding three Samsung bloatware, there are replacements for each of them, if you really need that. I personally think, most of it is just premature and unnecessary. Multi window for example. What do you do with that? I just have GMD gesture control with some user defined gesture to switch between the last apps.
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Regarding three Samsung bloatware, there are replacements for each of them, if you really need that. I personally think, most of it is just premature and unnecessary. Multi window for example. What do you do with that? I just have GMD gesture control with some user defined gesture to switch between the last apps.
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I run excel spreadsheets while browsing for making quotes, compare values and stuff like that, need to compare spreadsheets with word documents, to give you an idea I use 3 monitors for my desktop.
So actually multiwindow is a very usefull "gadget" for me, and that's what got my attention, the 3gb of ram I though well this will handle my workload with out a problem, 10.5" screen good space for multi window, and well the exynos ? I would prefer a snapdragon version, but I don't need LTE on my tablet as always I can theter from my S4, and none local store have one with snapdragon in case I need to return it or something.
And yeah GMD Gestures is a must for a tablet.
I now own two of these devices, a 10.5 and an 8.4. I use Nova Launcher. Even running stock OTA I have never experienced any scrolling lag or stutter using the stock browser. My only complaints were some keyboard lag which I believe disabling DVFS improved and using a firewall hack to speed up embedded video steaming. Other than that and the typical pageload lag JavaScript causes I have had zero lag or stutter issues with either tablet.
As setup currently both of these tabs are completely smooth.
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I now own two of these devices, a 10.5 and an 8.4. I use Nova Launcher. Even running stock OTA I have never experienced any scrolling lag or stutter using the stock browser. My only complaints were some keyboard lag which I believe disabling DVFS improved and using a firewall hack to speed up embedded video steaming. Other than that and the typical pageload lag JavaScript causes I have had zero lag or stutter issues with either tablet.
As setup currently both of these tabs are completely smooth.
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Wait.... So yours are not showing that white tail or the keyboard placeholder like mine is doing it here http://youtu.be/kfUbyTVjF6I ?
CyberManiaK said:
Wait.... So yours are not showing that white tail or the keyboard placeholder like mine is doing it here http://youtu.be/kfUbyTVjF6I ?
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OK I see your problem. The fade animation is working properly when you select the address bar but not when you select a text box on the actual website. I think this is just the website re rendering as the keyboard closes since you were interacting with it. You only really notice it because the background of your website is dark.
I believe this is a stock browser thing as it does not do this using Dolphin.
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No. Mine does a nice fade and drop down animation. What yours is doing should not be happening.
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Yeah that kinda of fade is what I'm not getting, it only does that fade when i'm typing on the address bar, but when i'm typing on something inside a webpage that trail appears. In what build are you ? Mine is NFB, hope anybody else can confirm if they have it or not and what mods are running.
I did factory reset but didn't solve it.
EDIT: Well this happen on white pages also, "covering" what is on screen. I did that on a dark background because is more apparent. If I enable layout bounds on developer options it shows that the placeholder is triggering before the actual keyboard. Tomorrow i will make a video with the layouts enabled.
And mine is doing it with every browser i have tested.
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Yeah that kinda of fade is what I'm not getting, it only does that fade when i'm typing on the address bar, but when i'm typing on something inside a webpage that trail appears. In what build are you ? Mine is NFB, hope anybody else can confirm if they have it or not and what mods are running.
I did factory reset but didn't solve it.
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I changed my original post. I think you missed it. Yes I am getting same thing in stock browser. This does not occur using Dolphin. Not a Tab S issue. A stock browser issue. The dark background of your website makes it more noticeable.
Update. Does it in Chrome browser too. If that bothers you try Dolphin browser.
I got the same white tail issue also in chrome browser.
Dolphin doesn't do that, gives a bit better re-rendering. But Dolphin mini also struggles. Weird.
Both are slightly more sluggish in scrolling, that's most important, so I sorted them out.
Also that nonsens gesture implementation (requires to press a button first) did not win me.
There is one thing the stock browser by far does the best of any browser I have tried. Play embedded video clips. Dolphin? You may as well not bother. Expect 10+ second load times. Using a little firewall hack I'm getting almost instant video loads in stock with no buffering lag.
The little white flash when closing the keyboard is a non issue for me, especially when using a website with a white background. Don't even notice it.
maybe try to debloat the ROM and then go into developer options to change the animations to .5 or disable them entire(I disable them in all android devices I own)
Well I don't know what happen, I did some factory reset like 3 in a row, then the first thing I did was, go straight to update chrome to 36.0.1985.131 and now it's working at it should. Yeah with some occasional stutter, mostly when launching an app. But not like was doing it before. The white tale is still there but not as heavy like it was before.