I am considering picking up an N3 next week on my Jump upgrade. Has anybody recently picked up a TMO N3? I am curious what firmware has been coming installed on recently bought units and if it is compatible with the de la vega method.
Got my Note 3 6 days ago and came with the Mi7 firmware. I didn't care about not tripping Knox since I was installing twrp anyway. So I used CF-AUTO root which trips the Knox flag just to root. But if you're not planning on installing a custom recovery then use Root De Las Vega since I belive it will not trip Knox just for root
A friend and I both bought one within the last two weeks, both MI7. Denver, CO area
I spent too much time figuring out RDLV, considering I'm going to trip knox anyway as it doesn't appear to affect warranty exchanges with Tmo.
DreamOperator said:
A friend and I both bought one within the last two weeks, both MI7. Denver, CO area
I spent too much time figuring out RDLV, considering I'm going to trip knox anyway as it doesn't appear to affect warranty exchanges with Tmo.
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I basically have myself set up to run rdlv once I get the phone. I'll probably get the itch to take it all the way and flash TWRP soon enough. I might give it a week or so to see if any hardware issues pop up though.
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RomanHelmet said:
I basically have myself set up to run rdlv once I get the phone. I'll probably get the itch to take it all the way and flash TWRP soon enough. I might give it a week or so to see if any hardware issues pop up though.
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Right now root de la vega only roots the Note 3 stock N900T odin flash 4.3 MK2 firmware.
After using root-de-la-vega to root your phone you still cannot flash custom recoveries, kernels
or custom roms.
So in other words, root de la vega will ONLY root your phone without tripping the knox counter
but it will not prevent you from catching knox (0x1) if you flash custom recoveries, roms & kernels.
Misterjunky said:
Right now root de la vega only roots the Note 3 stock N900T odin flash 4.3 MK2 firmware.
After using root-de-la-vega to root your phone you still cannot flash custom recoveries, kernels
or custom roms.
So in other words, root de la vega will ONLY root your phone without tripping the knox counter
but it will not prevent you from catching knox (0x1) if you flash custom recoveries, roms & kernels.
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Fwiw - N900t has only had one official firmware release. That would be the stuff it came w/ out-of-the-box - UVUBMI7.
Just wanted to clarify
Is mk2 a more recent firmware? Mi7 is compatible right?
I understand that flashing non tw roms or any recovery will trip the counter, so I'm going to hold off on that for a bit and just go with root, which should be good enough for now.
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DreamOperator said:
A friend and I both bought one within the last two weeks, both MI7. Denver, CO area
I spent too much time figuring out RDLV, considering I'm going to trip knox anyway as it doesn't appear to affect warranty exchanges with Tmo.
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Same. Denver area, bought it 3 days ago. Mi7 RDLV worked fine for me as well w/o tripping Knox
I think de la vega method uses ATT firmware which has security hole in the hash function, so it doesn't trip flag and that's why you'll have MK version if you use that method, I believe all original T-mo notes have MI7. BTW above MJ7 de la vega trips the flag, so they already patch it up. Sometimes it's good T-mo doesn't update firmware quickly, LOL.
I purchased my 900T Jan 14th. The box shows a mid Dec 2013 build date. MI7 firmware
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Rick Droid said:
I purchased my 900T Jan 14th. The box shows a mid Dec 2013 build date. MI7 firmware
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If it's MI7 that means it has all the KNOX goodies in it...
MI7 is the only firmware available for N900T as if now.
Yeah just switched to t mobile and chose the note and it has mi7, if I go with jump, how much do they care about custom status during trade in cause I want to flash some roms lololo
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evodon84 said:
Yeah just switched to t mobile and chose the note and it has mi7, if I go with jump, how much do they care about custom status during trade in
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Short answer is "T-mobile doesn't care"
There's always the possibility that the sales guy would take a detailed look at it, but that's highly unlikely. I just jumped from the One to Note 3 yesterday and the guy checked the water damage indicator, turned the phone on to make sure it booted up and that was it. They want to process your transaction is quickly as possible and have you leaving the store a satisfied customer so they can move onto the next customer in line. That results in a 'perfect' survey response from you and that's reflected on their paycheck. If you leave unhappy and slam them on their review, they get read the riot act. One bad survey is trouble, more than one is grounds for termination. Walk into the store with a smile, don't ever mention anything remotely close to the word 'root', and you'll have no issues.
TMO doesn't care
I bought my Note3 from my local TMO office. My rep roots and puts custom roms on his phone too. He told me the same thing, they check for water damage and boot the phone, could care less if it is rooted or if Knox is tripped, we looked together and he could not find any TMO policy that doesn't allow it.
Be careful on new phones, the new TMO Sony has a locked bootloader at TMO's request.
negativefx said:
Short answer is "T-mobile doesn't care"
There's always the possibility that the sales guy would take a detailed look at it, but that's highly unlikely. I just jumped from the One to Note 3 yesterday and the guy checked the water damage indicator, turned the phone on to make sure it booted up and that was it. They want to process your transaction is quickly as possible and have you leaving the store a satisfied customer so they can move onto the next customer in line. That results in a 'perfect' survey response from you and that's reflected on their paycheck. If you leave unhappy and slam them on their review, they get read the riot act. One bad survey is trouble, more than one is grounds for termination. Walk into the store with a smile, don't ever mention anything remotely close to the word 'root', and you'll have no issues.
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Just got two T-Mobile Note 3's and want to root them as I did our Verizon Note 2's.
Was watching the XDA video on using the chainfire method (which I used to root my Note
tablet) and it looks like the way to go.
That video came out in Oct of 2013. The little owners manual thingie that came
with the phones states that any "If unauthorized firmware is placed on the device it will not
work."
Question: Does anyone know if Samsung has buggered up the phone since October
so that the root no longer works, or am I still good to go?
Thanks!
dal71 said:
Just got two T-Mobile Note 3's and want to root them as I did our Verizon Note 2's.
Was watching the XDA video on using the chainfire method (which I used to root my Note
tablet) and it looks like the way to go.
That video came out in Oct of 2013. The little owners manual thingie that came
with the phones states that any "If unauthorized firmware is placed on the device it will not
work."
Question: Does anyone know if Samsung has buggered up the phone since October
so that the root no longer works, or am I still good to go?
Thanks!
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You can root a couple different ways. It depends on if you want to trip Knox or not.
I literally just used chainfires auto-root via Odin and it worked fine
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Beefvvl said:
You can root a couple different ways. It depends on if you want to trip Knox or not.
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Thanks for the response, but I'll admit to being enough of a newbie not to know what you mean by trip Knox?
Knox is new Samsung secure environment, if you start flashing ROMS etc it will trip Knox flag which no one knows how to reset, if it ever can be reset. Samsung can and did refuse any warranty repairs if the Knox flag is tripped. As far as rooting goes if your firmware is below MJ7 I think, you won't trip the flag, if it's MJ7 and above the flag will be tripped I think. For example I have MI7 (last 3 digits of FW build) so I can root, without setting flag. Anyhow, I would suggest you read and learn as much as you can here, before you do something you can't undo.
I really wanted to wait until the 4.4.2 Kitkat update before I root.... but I can't wait.
I think I will cave in and get root this weekend!
I'm thinking of upgrading from my GS3, non lte, to the Note 3. As I've looked around the forms here, it would seem as though Knox is an added security measure so t-mobile can more easily detect root?
Is there a way to have root without tripping this counter? Is there a way to flash a custom Rom or kernel without tripping it?
If this has been answered apologize, I did look around before making new thread.
Thanks!
Also on a side note, white or black note 3?
t3tr1s_ said:
I'm thinking of upgrading from my GS3, non lte, to the Note 3. As I've looked around the forms here, it would seem as though Knox is an added security measure so t-mobile can more easily detect root?
Is there a way to have root without tripping this counter? Is there a way to flash a custom Rom or kernel without tripping it?
If this has been answered apologize, I did look around before making new thread.
Thanks!
Also on a side note, white or black note 3?
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Knox isn't really for T-mobile to detect root/custom firmware but for Samsung warranty. A fair amount of people on here have stated that they still sent their phones in to Sammy for warranty and they still got their phones fixed. T-mobile really only look for cracked screens, water damage and that the phone powers on and boots up. Not to say you'll never have an issue but i would say it's not really that big of a deal to trip the Knox counter. Especially if you bought the insurance like Asurion. I don't think they even care if your rooted and ROM'd
Awesome. My concern here is that I would be disqualified from the jump program... I'd like to get the Note 4 as soon as it comes out.. Is there currently any way to root and flash a room without tripping Knox? Or can we only root without tripping Knox?
Before this gets locked, yes you can root without tripping knox. As mentioned knox is for samsung to deny repairs if they see fit (if the phone is sent to them). Tmobile could care less if the phone is rooted or not. You just have to be careful about warranty repairs for samsung, thats what they may or may not look at.
t3tr1s_ said:
Awesome. My concern here is that I would be disqualified from the jump program... I'd like to get the Note 4 as soon as it comes out.. Is there currently any way to root and flash a room without tripping Knox? Or can we only root without tripping Knox?
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On the old 4.3 firmware yes you can root with Root De La Vega and not trip the Knox counter but once you put ANY custom recovery it will trip the counter. Now on the OTA 4.4.2 that was released on Wednesday, the only 2 current ways to root (TWRP or Philz CWM) will trip the Knox counter no matter what. So until something comes out like an updated ROOT De La Vega, there's no way to even root without tripping the Knox counter.
Also from what i read, RDLV isn't being developed anymore so unless they decide to do something with it for the all the 4.4.2 releases hitting phones these days there may not be anything for a bit to root without tripping knox.
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Before this gets locked, yes you can root without tripping knox. As mentioned knox is for samsung to deny repairs if they see fit (if the phone is sent to them). Tmobile could care less if the phone is rooted or not. You just have to be careful about warranty repairs for samsung, thats what they may or may not look at.
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That is true for 4.3 but so far you can't on 4.4 from everything I have seen. Do you now of a way to not trip knox on 4.4?
Jfree3000 said:
Before this gets locked, yes you can root without tripping knox. As mentioned knox is for samsung to deny repairs if they see fit (if the phone is sent to them). Tmobile could care less if the phone is rooted or not. You just have to be careful about warranty repairs for samsung, thats what they may or may not look at.
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Did I miss something? Is there a way to Root 4.4.2 without tripping Knox? I don't care I've tripped Knox the first night i had my N3 but I didn't think there was a way. Kningo and RDLV i thought borked the phones and caused bootloops.
My t-mobile store says that if you root your phone then it voids your warranty, so obviously they won't allow me to upgrade... So I know they check for it.. How is it you guys have stores where they don't seem to care?
Moving over here from the S3 side. Holy crap what a difference! Sold on the Note 3 and all future Notes. I don't think I'll ever go back.
I've been reading over the Tmo Note 3 forums for the last week leading up to me getting the N3 last Friday. I want to root but I don't care too much for flashing roms anymore. I'm fine with stock for the most part. I went through hundreds of flashes on my S3 and ended up sticking with an Infamous TW ROM from April last year and could care less for 4.3 on the S3. All I want is the ability to remove the crap, install ViPER for android, remove the stupid start up and shutdown sounds, and install Xposes+Wanam for everything else that I want.
I luckily got a N3 that still has 4.3 on it, and I want to keep it that way for now. I know that there are two ways to root, CF and De La Vega. I signed up for jump at the same time as getting the phone and so I don't know if that affects anything either.
Now I'm stuck deciding how to root,
If I root with CF I trip knox and void that but then I have the luxury if I want to flash something in the future thats not stock.
If I root with De La Vega, I keep knox and just keep it simple as far as the ROM goes.
What benefits are there to each method. Can I still upgrade when the time comes with either root method?
I want to make sure I do this right the first time.
wonderbread24 said:
Moving over here from the S3 side. Holy crap what a difference! Sold on the Note 3 and all future Notes. I don't think I'll ever go back.
I've been reading over the Tmo Note 3 forums for the last week leading up to me getting the N3 last Friday. I want to root but I don't care too much for flashing roms anymore. I'm fine with stock for the most part. I went through hundreds of flashes on my S3 and ended up sticking with an Infamous TW ROM from April last year and could care less for 4.3 on the S3. All I want is the ability to remove the crap, install ViPER for android, remove the stupid start up and shutdown sounds, and install Xposes+Wanam for everything else that I want.
I luckily got a N3 that still has 4.3 on it, and I want to keep it that way for now. I know that there are two ways to root, CF and De La Vega. I signed up for jump at the same time as getting the phone and so I don't know if that affects anything either.
Now I'm stuck deciding how to root,
If I root with CF I trip knox and void that but then I have the luxury if I want to flash something in the future thats not stock.
If I root with De La Vega, I keep knox and just keep it simple as far as the ROM goes.
What benefits are there to each method. Can I still upgrade when the time comes with either root method?
I want to make sure I do this right the first time.
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Seems like you have a lot to consider. There has as you have read been a huge conversation on rather to trip Knox or not. Your choice. There are plenty of good 4.3 roms and 4.4.2 roms running on the 4.3 bootloader with fixes. You just have to decide on rooting or not to root.
I decided to keep it safe and go with UDLV. So far so good.
I use Kingo root because if anything happens to my Note 3 and I need to send it for repair, I want to be able to un-root.
I am not sure how to unroot if I root the phone with De La Vega, but when I had my Galaxy S4 Active, it was really a b*tch to unroot. I had to revert to the stock ROM (finding one is another story), but I believe if I do this with the Note 3, this may or may not trip Knox, but I am not taking any chances for a $650 gadget.
Anyways, just FYI.
Yesterday I returned to the land of the living when I was given a Note 3 to replace my Galaxy Lite. I feel as if I have crawled out of a dark hole back into the light. That said, I got the device and FOB6 had already been applied OTA. It has never been rooted or altered in any way. All of the information I see on the forums describes getting root by reverting to a previous release. I have very slow internet and downloading the original rom and the update to reapply via Odin would take me days. Is there a way, currently, to root with FOB6 already applied that does not trip the Knox counter or require changing the rom?
Puff3r said:
Yesterday I returned to the land of the living when I was given a Note 3 to replace my Galaxy Lite. I feel as if I have crawled out of a dark hole back into the light. That said, I got the device and FOB6 had already been applied OTA. It has never been rooted or altered in any way. All of the information I see on the forums describes getting root by reverting to a previous release. I have very slow internet and downloading the original rom and the update to reapply via Odin would take me days. Is there a way, currently, to root with FOB6 already applied that does not trip the Knox counter or require changing the rom?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2672393
This will trip KNOX but you can do it without dowloading (downgrading) huge rom... (currently no guide without tripping KNOX, sorry)
Start from Step 1... (you don't have to do steps -3, -2, -1, & 0...Start at step 1...
Thanks for the quick reply. As I'm not sure whether I will need Knox in the future or not, I will hold off on these steps for a couple of days to see if a non-trip method is found.
You only need Knox if your phone is under warranty and its going to samsung for repair.
Otherwise it's just bloat.
Pp.
PanchoPlanet said:
You only need Knox if your phone is under warranty and its going to samsung for repair.
Otherwise it's just bloat.
Pp.
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Or if you plan to use it, since some of us actually have jobs that require security on our devices to access their networks. Oh, and if you plan to sell your device later and want to be honest about "like new" condition...actually, Samsung warranty is pretty low on the worries list.
Ditto on security protocol.
Pp.
So I got the S8 on BOGO last night, my dad got the S8+, mine is SM-G950U from Costco, it was placed on TMobile network, it's got the T-Mobile firmware I believe as there are about 5 TMO apps pre-installed.
I'm a bit confused, it seems that there are root options for this phone, other threads say TMo won't unlock bootloaders, yet I see there are a few ROMs floating around.
Thus far I did 2 system updates and am currently running on G950USQU1AQEF.
I see that there's a AQFJ already downloading, and the patch notes say "Device Security Enhancements"
Now I don't want to update this device to the point of not being able to root, even though I am not even sure if there's a root available.
Can someone clear up the rooting situation for me?
I don't see any rooting guides, yet I see some ROMs around. (most/all are for G950F/FD/N) - Is the version of the device unrootable?
Does rooting break warranty?
Also, i read somewhere that there are Knox counter re-setters, would that prevent void warranty?
Thanks!
Shemploo said:
So I got the S8 on BOGO last night, my dad got the S8+, mine is SM-G950U from Costco, it was placed on TMobile network, it's got the T-Mobile firmware I believe as there are about 5 TMO apps pre-installed.
I'm a bit confused, it seems that there are root options for this phone, other threads say TMo won't unlock bootloaders, yet I see there are a few ROMs floating around.
Thus far I did 2 system updates and am currently running on G950USQU1AQEF.
I see that there's a AQFJ already downloading, and the patch notes say "Device Security Enhancements"
Now I don't want to update this device to the point of not being able to root, even though I am not even sure if there's a root available.
Can someone clear up the rooting situation for me?
I don't see any rooting guides, yet I see some ROMs around. (most/all are for G950F/FD/N) - Is the version of the device unrootable?
Does rooting break warranty?
Also, i read somewhere that there are Knox counter re-setters, would that prevent void warranty?
Thanks!
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There is no root for the Snapdragon variant of the S8 or S8+, it's not T-Mobile it's Samsung. Yes rooting will trip Knox and void your warranty, even flashing stock firmware won't untrip Knox. So update away, the chances of root are slim to none. I have had 14 or so android smartphones since 2009 and they were all rooted on day one. You can use Package Disabler Pro to get rid of the bloat. If you want some more customization you can use layers from this thread. And there's even Subsratam for Samsung here. I sincerely doubt that the bootloader will be unlocked in the near future.