solar charger for N5 - Nexus 5 Accessories

Hello everyone. This is my first post so please be reasonable with me.I just bought a 6000 amh portable solar charger from amazon.ca .I have done a lot of reaserch on this and found that a lot of peopel online suggest using ground zero solar panels. Has anyone tried this with the Nexus 5?
I could use any feedback on this if possible. Please see attached.I will also post a update as well as nothing really mentioned any were .

Ground Zero or Goal Zero?
I have the Goal Zero kit from Costco and it works fine when charging from the battery pack (which is charged by the solar panel).
I wasn't patient enough to sit there and charge my phone directly from the panel.

Solar chargers
I ment to say Goal Zero.Sorry about that. I have been playing with my new solar charger and I must say that it is vary effective. I can charge my Nexus 5 in a hour and can charge it up to 3 to 4 times if needed. I would recommend this product if you need a extra power supply for small devices like 7 inch tablets or cell phones but nothing bigger(Referring to the EZO power charger from amazon.ca).If you want to do anything more then that the Goal Zero is what alot of people all over the internet recommend.(Goal Zero 12301 Nomad 7M Solar Panel ).Which is 55 dollars on amazon.ca.

FrostyKnight said:
I ment to say Goal Zero.Sorry about that. I have been playing with my new solar charger and I must say that it is vary effective. I can charge my Nexus 5 in a hour and can charge it up to 3 to 4 times if needed. I would recommend this product if you need a extra power supply for small devices like 7 inch tablets or cell phones but nothing bigger(Referring to the EZO power charger from amazon.ca).If you want to do anything more then that the Goal Zero is what alot of people all over the internet recommend.(Goal Zero 12301 Nomad 7M Solar Panel ).Which is 55 dollars on amazon.ca.
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I think the idea of a solar powered charger is cool, but, emergency situations aside, I can't really think of when I'd need this. I have an Anker 13Ah external charger, which would charge a Nexus 5 5.6 times from completely dead. That's almost a week of battery for the phone. I can't think of any situation where I'd be without a charger for an entire week (except, as i said, extreme emergencies, but in that case, the cell towers will probably be down and my phone would be useless)

xVehemencityx said:
I think the idea of a solar powered charger is cool, but, emergency situations aside, I can't really think of when I'd need this. I have an Anker 13Ah external charger, which would charge a Nexus 5 5.6 times from completely dead. That's almost a week of battery for the phone. I can't think of any situation where I'd be without a charger for an entire week (except, as i said, extreme emergencies, but in that case, the cell towers will probably be down and my phone would be useless)
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But how else would you be able to play angry birds in the zombie apocalypse lol.
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xVehemencityx said:
I can't think of any situation where I'd be without a charger for an entire week (except, as i said, extreme emergencies,
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Multi-day back country hiking?

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EnercellĀ® 2400mAh Portable Power Bank

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Just wanted to show this little device off to anyone that didnt wanna kill the look of there tbolt, this little thing packs a punch kept my tbolt streaming netflix on 4g alive for an extra 2 hrs! its small its compact and they go on sale randomly i think its a good alternative for anyone who doesnt mind having a VERY small extra attachment
hope this helps
i actually brought the i.sound portable 16,000 mah battery. it's not as compact as the enercell but this thing is so worth it. 5 usb ports, can even charge iPad. so far it charges my standard battery from 0% to full in 4 hours. i've used it for 3 full charges and still have more than 50% juice left.
http://www.amazon.com/i-Sound-Porta...G3WS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1307749879&sr=8-1
shagaholik said:
i actually brought the i.sound portable 16,000 mah battery. it's not as compact as the enercell but this thing is so worth it. 5 usb ports, can even charge iPad. so far it charges my standard battery from 0% to full in 4 hours. i've used it for 3 full charges and still have more than 50% juice left.
http://www.amazon.com/i-Sound-Porta...G3WS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1307749879&sr=8-1
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wow that things beastly
these are cool products but when my thunderbolt is charging the screen becomes unusable. it won't register touches and typing becomes impossible.
That 16K one looks pretty slick. I went the opposite direction and got something smaller and cheaper: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0047EM0SU
boristhebladexx said:
these are cool products but when my thunderbolt is charging the screen becomes unusable. it won't register touches and typing becomes impossible.
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I have never experienced this... sounds like a hardware issue
boristhebladexx said:
these are cool products but when my thunderbolt is charging the screen becomes unusable. it won't register touches and typing becomes impossible.
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Happens to me if I use an aftermarket ac charger.
Mustang02 said:
Happens to me if I use an aftermarket ac charger.
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Same here.
Sent from Thunderbolt, Liquid Thundersense 1.5
bill3508 said:
Same here.
Sent from Thunderbolt, Liquid Thundersense 1.5
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Ditto.
I got an ebay elcheapo for my ipod touch...it's rated at 1Mah...
Most of the time the touch screen is unresponsive and erratic.
Unplugging from it cures it instantly.
I ordered the HTC factory charger as a result to have one at home and office.
I only use aftermarket chargers, and I think it has more to do with the kernel than the charger itself. I have experienced this issue with Iso's and adrenelyn's but they charge faster. Ziggy I've had no issues with using the phone while charging and ziggy's kernel packs the biggest quadrant and linpack punch but not so great on the battery. A little off topic but fyi, because I have been playing around with this.
P.S. Really the best thing that works for me is to just to swap batteries in the evening time and if you are streaming something then again before bed time. Its like $12 with shipping for 2 1500mah rip off batteries that aren't as good as stock but more than enough to get you through the day.
Sweeny Russ said:
I only use aftermarket chargers, and I think it has more to do with the kernel than the charger itself. I have experienced this issue with Iso's and adrenelyn's but they charge faster. Ziggy I've had no issues with using the phone while charging and ziggy's kernel packs the biggest quadrant and linpack punch but not so great on the battery. A little off topic but fyi, because I have been playing around with this.
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Hmm...Interesting. I've only used Adryn and Imo's as well...or other's variants of Imo's.

External Batteries

I was just wondering whether external batteries are generally quite reliable, and if so what the best brands are to go for? I am looking for a relatively powerful one - I am not afraid of a little bit of cost, but obviously I don't want to spend masses.
Thanks
Ive got a New Trent and its well built and reliable. The 11000mAH will last you for several days. Have a look on Amazon.
I have a "Just Mobile Pro" or something like that.
4400mAh with 1000mA output.
But the EasyAcc 5600mAh (which I don't have) does sound better and cheaper (on Amazon).
Second new trents 11000mah one that thing is a beast
Chartist said:
Ive got a New Trent and its well built and reliable. The 11000mAH will last you for several days. Have a look on Amazon.
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24inchsub said:
Second new trents 11000mah one that thing is a beast
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yeah i got that bad boy too and its a beast. well worth the price
Chartist said:
Ive got a New Trent and its well built and reliable. The 11000mAH will last you for several days. Have a look on Amazon.
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Thanks not heard of New Trent before. Looks good. Can you confirm it's output charging current though? I can't find the spec on it anywhere. I'm assuming it's the full 1A, as it says it can charge an iPad, but could you please confirm? Looks like I'll be needing one!
Cheers.
wnp_79 said:
Thanks not heard of New Trent before. Looks good. Can you confirm it's output charging current though? I can't find the spec on it anywhere. I'm assuming it's the full 1A, as it says it can charge an iPad, but could you please confirm? Looks like I'll be needing one!
Cheers.
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i can try to charge my ipad when i get home haven't tried actually.
I bought the Anker 5600mAh battery for my HTC Desire. Great quality, compact and it fits in my pocket very nicely. I bought it for $30 on ebay
http://www.ianker.com/products_astronew.html
gordongartrell said:
I bought the Anker 5600mAh battery for my HTC Desire. Great quality, compact and it fits in my pocket very nicely. I bought it for $30 on ebay
http://www.ianker.com/products_astronew.html
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Flashlight feature's a nice touch.
isound portable external battery. Has built in flashlight too. Comes in two flavors, 16000mah and 8000mah.
If you look around you can find it cheaper elsewhere
http://www.isound.net/shop-by-type/accessories/i-sound-portable-power-16000-mah.html
Zagg Sparq 2.0 6000mah. Not worth the $100. Went on sale for $50 before..
Love the design and its built it power plugs. Loses charge over time. Google user reviews.
http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggsparq.php
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Flashlight feature's a nice touch.
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It's good and bad . I was on the train heading home from work and I was charging my phone with the Anker charger. I accidentally pressed the power button twice and the flashlight turned on. Sitting across from me was this fairly attractive woman with a skirt on. She automatically crossed her legs and looked at me weird. I hope she doesn't think that i'm a pervert.
gordongartrell said:
It's good and bad . I was on the train heading home from work and I was charging my phone with the Anker charger. I accidentally pressed the power button twice and the flashlight turned on. Sitting across from me was this fairly attractive woman with a skirt on. She automatically crossed her legs and looked at me weird. I hope she doesn't think that i'm a pervert.
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Hah! Good thing I didn't have a mouthful of soda there...
Good thing to remember with external battery packs is that during usage some of the charge goes to charging the battery while some is lost in heat. I think I read some where its normaly 30-40%. So for example a 11000mah battery will give you some where near 6600mah of charge so about 3 and half charges of the HTC One X.
I'm considering either the:
TeckNetĀ® iEP387 7000mAh Dual-Port 2.1Amp Output Universal USB Battery Bank
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294
New Trent iCruiser IMP1000 11000mAh External Battery Pack
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294
Although not 100% sure I need either at the moment
HTC-Gunge said:
Good thing to remember with external battery packs is that during usage some of the charge goes to charging the battery while some is lost in heat. I think I read some where its normaly 30-40%. So for example a 11000mah battery will give you some where near 6600mah of charge so about 3 and half charges of the HTC One X.
I'm considering either the:
TeckNetĀ® iEP387 7000mAh Dual-Port 2.1Amp Output Universal USB Battery Bank
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294
New Trent iCruiser IMP1000 11000mAh External Battery Pack
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294
Although not 100% sure I need either at the moment
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The heat loss is inevitable but the capacity should be unchanged.
What the heat loss means is that you need more than 11000mAh to charge up the full 11000mAh battery due to the losses.
The tecknet is very good value. I am considering it at the moment
tsleng said:
The heat loss is inevitable but the capacity should be unchanged.
What the heat loss means is that you need more than 11000mAh to charge up the full 11000mAh battery due to the losses.
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Yes but I'm talking about in the other direction. So once you have 11000mAh in the device and you charge a device that take 1800mAh you will actually use aprox 2520mAh in doing so. My numbers and calculations maybe a little flawed but my point is that you cant do a simple 11000 / 1800 = 6.1 charges as you need to take into account heat loss which is around 30 - 40% (so I read on one of the amazon reviews)
Either way both devices are nice and cost quite reasonable.
Hampa_D said:
i can try to charge my ipad when i get home haven't tried actually.
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tried it with my ipad last night and it worked great, it worked as if it was on AC
Have got the Tecknet IEP987 7000mah battery myself. Has run through two charges of a sensation XL and my Fiio Headphone amp, and still around half full.
Am more than happy with it.
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Yes but I'm talking about in the other direction. So once you have 11000mAh in the device and you charge a device that take 1800mAh you will actually use aprox 2520mAh in doing so. My numbers and calculations maybe a little flawed but my point is that you cant do a simple 11000 / 1800 = 6.1 charges as you need to take into account heat loss which is around 30 - 40% (so I read on one of the amazon reviews)
Either way both devices are nice and cost quite reasonable.
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Ah yes of course. Did not realise you were talking about the other way round charger>>phone
Not sure how efficient but if say 10% loss, we still get around 5 times charge with a 11000mAh batt. to a One X.
I am leaning towards the 7000mAh. Not sure if I need it or not...
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Ah yes of course. Did not realise you were talking about the other way round charger>>phone
Not sure how efficient but if say 10% loss, we still get around 5 times charge with a 11000mAh batt. to a One X.
I am leaning towards the 7000mAh. Not sure if I need it or not...
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Also don't forgot not to simply divide the battery pack's capacity by your phone's battery capacity to see how many times it will charge, unless you are charging it with the phone turned off.
With the phone on it is obviously using the usual amount for running the phone, whilst it is being charged. Add the current being drawn for keeping the phone running (say 250mA when awake) for the time it takes to charge (for me 2 hours) and you are looking at 500mAH. Add that to the capacity of your phone battery before dividing it by the capacity of your battery pack to figure out how many charges you'll get from it. Figures used are just for example purposes. Use a current widget if you want to know how much your phone is using.
Plus like a phone's battery, a new battery pack will take several charge cycles to reach full performance. Where as with a phone's battery which only takes about 2 weeks (charging it every day), a battery pack will take that much longer to get the full performance out of, as you wont likely be charging it more than once a week/month.
And then there's the battery indicators. These New Trent ones look sensible, but I once purchased a Proporta Turbocharger 5000mAHr unit. It had three blue LED battery status lights that were always on if charging. If you looked directly at them they'd burn your retinas out your skull. They could be seen from space. Stupidly and comically bright. They HAD to eat into some of the capacity.
Copper losses over the cable at the distances involved in your average charging cable will be negligible. If you really want to reduce it, don't use those silly skinny retracting yo-yo charging cable things that some of them come with. Use a decent quality USB to microUSB cable. The higher the guage of the cable and quality of copper, the less volt-drop there is. I keep a good few of these kicking about at home as they are well made but not too costly, and come with a nice cable tidy clasp...http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-NOKIA-CA-101-CA101-USB-DATA-CABLE-LEAD-5230-/140579882085?pt=UK_MobilePhones_MobilePhoneAccesories_MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item20bb36c465
fi3ry_icy said:
since the battery isnt gonna be removable, i am currently considering buying a portable charger..
here are some i found.. would like an opinion on which capacity would be good..
http://www.netimes.com/shop/power-master-9600mah-portable-mobile-power-p-3052.html?cPath=445_711
http://www.netimes.com/shop/2000mah...pack-with-led-light-p-3264.html?cPath=445_711
http://www.netimes.com/shop/dualport-5000mah-external-battery-pack-p-3109.html?cPath=80_731
http://mobilemate.yetaa.com/accessories/pineng-5000mah-power-bank.html
the last link has the same capacity as the 2nd last but it is way cheaper.. is it safe?
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here u go..
posted this in another thread..
cheers..

QI Charger/Power Bank

I wanted to get QI charger w/ my Nexus and ended up getting one that included a 10,000 mAh powerbank for basically the same price.
I thought it was going to feel pretty cheap, but to my surprise it seems like its pretty good quality. For 40 bucks for both a QI and a power bank in one it's pretty kick arse! So be forewarned the "IN STOCK" status is BS it ships from China so don't expect within a week; I think I got mine in 3 weeks.
Also the instructions are horrendous, not sure who translated it but its actually comedy. I think says something like... "Use it if it bulges, smells or smokes." (instead of dont) and has FAQ's that have no questions. Literally every line in the instructions does not make sense.
So you can use this as a normal QI charger. As a powerbank you can use QI or plug it in through the USB ports (2) which makes more sense so you dont have 30% power loss as with QI. Powerbank is same shape as phone just about twice as thick and slightly larger width and length. Finished material is smooth so if you have a hard plastic case it may easily slide off or not become centered well enough to charge. I have a case no issues charging through the case. It does also get a full charge and it does not get my phone more than warm (same as wall charger).
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FS1NTMW/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
*not much but you can save a little here:
forgot to mention you can Save 5% on Qi Wireless Charger Transmitter 10000mAh Mobile Power Bank(ASIN:B00FS1NTMW) when you purchase 1 or more Qi Standard Wireless Charging Receiver offered by Docooler. Enter code 3VYHPR39 at checkout.
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I'd be very interested in a test to see what the actual capacity of this is. Im always wary with a no name brand battery from China because they tend to always overstate their battery capacities. Wish there were some reviews, but I might give it a go anyway to test it out myself.
Looks interesting, but the lack of reviews make it sound dubious
loooller said:
Looks interesting, but the lack of reviews make it sound dubious
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Its weird how almost all of the qi power banks on amazon have no reviews. Seems like something everyone should have. Ridiculously useful. I am wondering why the one posted above is a good 25% cheaper than all the others of the same 10,000 mah capacity though.
Would absolutely love for the OP to test how many full charges of the Nexus 5 he could get from the device using USB and then Wireless charging, but that would probably take a while. Also OP, when you say that the case is smooth, is it smooth like the soft touch plastic on the back of the Nexus 5 or smooth like the shiny plastic on galaxy phones?
I'm waiting for RavPower Qi Wireless Charging Pad with a built-in 4800mAh battery coming back in stock. It seems like a great fit with my Nexus 5 as I checked a review from WPCentral.
Ordered one
Just ordered one. Will let you guys know when I get it, what it's like!
muyoso said:
Would absolutely love for the OP to test how many full charges of the Nexus 5 he could get from the device using USB and then Wireless charging, but that would probably take a while. Also OP, when you say that the case is smooth, is it smooth like the soft touch plastic on the back of the Nexus 5 or smooth like the shiny plastic on galaxy phones?
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no problem but may be a few days I'm getting over a day cycle on my nexus so far. I bought it mostly for the QI charger the bank was a bonus/ I will keep a log but try and get full cycles out of it to make it easier.
As far as the smoothness it is more like the shiny plastic on the galaxy phones. My phone has a plastic case it doesn't slide to much but I could see if it got bumped it would move. I had bought a screen protector someone posted that i don't like it's kind of rubbery or tacky feel i was thinking about taking it off and putting it on the charger so it was a little more "grippy".
Give me a few days I'll put up some stats for you
muyoso said:
I'd be very interested in a test to see what the actual capacity of this is. Im always wary with a no name brand battery from China because they tend to always overstate their battery capacities. Wish there were some reviews, but I might give it a go anyway to test it out myself.
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PS They ALL come from China lol
jeremykersh said:
PS They ALL come from China lol
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Oh I know, but the ones sold under the badge of Samsung or LG are usually dead on their mah capacity ratings. Not so much for random Chinese brands I havent heard of before.
Hindo2 said:
I'm waiting for RavPower Qi Wireless Charging Pad with a built-in 4800mAh battery coming back in stock. It seems like a great fit with my Nexus 5 as I checked a review from WPCentral.
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Amazons having a 50% off deal on battery packs if you buy the RAVpower qi charger. I just picked up the charger and a RAV 8400mAh pack for just over 60 bucks. I've been wanting both for a while now and this deal was just to good to pass up. I do a lot of backpacking and have been debating between a battery pack vs. a solar charger for some time now as well. The pack is actually lighter than any of the solar charges I was looking at. And for 18 bucks was a no brainer.
so here are some stats on this as a power bank not sure how much power loss over a few days is normal but after a full charge of the bank using the cable here is what I came up with:
night one charger started at 51% .49 of the full 2300 mAh nexus 5 battery = 1127 mAh
night two started at 18% .82 = 1886
night three started at 22% .78 = 1794
night four started at 28% .72 = 1656
night five started at 9% died at 32% = 529
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TOTAL mAh= 6992
jeremykersh said:
so here are some stats on this as a power bank not sure how much power loss over a few days is normal but after a full charge of the bank using the cable here is what I came up with:
night one charger started at 51% .49 of the full 2300 mAh nexus 5 battery = 1127 mAh
night two started at 18% .82 = 1886
night three started at 22% .78 = 1794
night four started at 28% .72 = 1656
night five started at 9% died at 32% = 529
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TOTAL mAh= 6992
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Interesting. And that is using the cable and not the Qi wireless charging? Its always said that Qi will have around a 30% loss in efficiency, which would make your numbers perfectly in line with what a 10,000 mah battery should do. Of course if you were using a cable it might just be that the low cost of the device translates to a less efficient transfer of energy. Still able to get roughly 3 full charges out of the power bank is pretty awesome.
muyoso said:
Interesting. And that is using the cable and not the Qi wireless charging? Its always said that Qi will have around a 30% loss in efficiency, which would make your numbers perfectly in line with what a 10,000 mah battery should do. Of course if you were using a cable it might just be that the low cost of the device translates to a less efficient transfer of energy. Still able to get roughly 3 full charges out of the power bank is pretty awesome.
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Yea thats through the cable, I know even turned off there is power loss on rechargeable batteries but I don't know what is normal power degradation equates to in a percentage. I agree though roughly 3 full charges may not be a full 10,000 mAh bank, but at the price even if it equates to a 7000 bank its not bad. Throw in the QI (which is mainly what I bought this for anyway) and this is pretty sweet deal :laugh:
I'll do it again and see what I come up with for round 2
Does it have an auto shut off function?
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mierkat09 said:
Does it have an auto shut off function?
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it does shut off once it gets a full charge, using the cable as a powerbank. Never tried QI as a bank doesn't make sense so don't know this way.

New to wireless charging

Hey people,
New to wireless charging here, my girlfriend just bought a wireless charger for my birthday. Just one question, when you are charging and you need to use the phone, should I pick it up or leave it there and try to use? I mean, if I keep picking it up to use, wouldn't the constant charging/stopping damage the battery? Please help me out!
Thank you!
jackhayden said:
Hey people,
New to wireless charging here, my girlfriend just bought a wireless charger for my birthday. Just one question, when you are charging and you need to use the phone, should I pick it up or leave it there and try to use? I mean, if I keep picking it up to use, wouldn't the constant charging/stopping damage the battery? Please help me out!
Thank you!
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No, it's fine. Pick it up as many times as you want. I have different wireless pads scattered throughout my house, office and car, that it will not "hurt" it.
It's probably fine. But if by constant you mean literally every 5 seconds then maybe not.
Also there's a xposed mod to disable the sound every time you put it on the pad if they annoy you too constantly.
BTW it'd be great if I had a techy girlfriend
thanks for the comments guys
kpjimmy said:
No, it's fine. Pick it up as many times as you want. I have different wireless pads scattered throughout my house, office and car, that it will not "hurt" it.
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uh yeah, no thanks, charge cycles take their toll on the battery.
people like this are why batteries have to be replaced.
Personally, it's only $15 to do yourself, so not a big deal. Just don't tell people it's fine. Get a degree in Electrical Engineering then tell me it's fine
thor1k said:
uh yeah, no thanks, charge cycles take their toll on the battery.
people like this are why batteries have to be replaced.
Personally, it's only $15 to do yourself, so not a big deal. Just don't tell people it's fine. Get a degree in Electrical Engineering then tell me it's fine
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AFAIK li-ion batteries does not suffer from any memory effect and they even last longer when kept charged. Battery charge cycles are still there as an indicator of the goodness of the battery from the manufacturer but they are related to a full cycle (eg how much current passes through the battery) but smaller charging cycles shouldn't be counted as full.
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I want to buy a wireless charger but I need some advices ^^
What's the best charger for you guys ? I mean what's the more efficient charger, the official from the Google play or others ?
thor1k said:
uh yeah, no thanks, charge cycles take their toll on the battery.
people like this are why batteries have to be replaced.
Personally, it's only $15 to do yourself, so not a big deal. Just don't tell people it's fine. Get a degree in Electrical Engineering then tell me it's fine
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Well I had my phone since released and before that used my Nexus 4 and used wireless chargers since then. You mean to tell me we all need EE degrees to use/charge our phones?
Just use the pads no need to "worry" about the battery. In some instances batteries will need replacement, but many replace their devices well before you see an issue.
I don't want to go to e-war about batteries. I am just going by personal experience. I have my N4 still, which my wife uses and still uses charging pad still no issues there either.
thor1k said:
uh yeah, no thanks, charge cycles take their toll on the battery.
people like this are why batteries have to be replaced.
Personally, it's only $15 to do yourself, so not a big deal. Just don't tell people it's fine. Get a degree in Electrical Engineering then tell me it's fine
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Could you provide some references for our edification? I admit I'm not the most knowledgeable on the subject but my understanding is that charge cycling is bad at or near full charge. I don't know that this a problem at lower charge levels (let's say <90%).
I don't have an EE degree but from what I understand newer batteries cycles are a full charge from 0-100. I read something on apples' website explaining this. So charging it twice from 50-100 would be one cycle.
Riekr said:
AFAIK li-ion batteries does not suffer from any memory effect and they even last longer when kept charged. Battery charge cycles are still there as an indicator of the goodness of the battery from the manufacturer but they are related to a full cycle (eg how much current passes through the battery) but smaller charging cycles shouldn't be counted as full.
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noppppppeeeeeeee, left at full charge lose 20% of capacity after 1 year. see:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
You might be right about the charge cycles, as most things seem to relate to amount of power transferred through the battery, and not 'depth of discharge" but honestly many people I've met who plug their phones in all the time to top up, end up having to get the battery replaced after a year. Apple product, ok no problem they do it free for like 2 years; but I've done nothing but run my batteries all the way down every time and slowcharge every night on USB-500mA (gentler current, kinder to battery, cooler temps, and even a slightly more thorough charge) (just 5% POSSIBLY 10% it's hard to say...probably 5%...I guess I should test this)
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kpjimmy said:
Well I had my phone since released and before that used my Nexus 4 and used wireless chargers since then. You mean to tell me we all need EE degrees to use/charge our phones?
Just use the pads no need to "worry" about the battery. In some instances batteries will need replacement, but many replace their devices well before you see an issue.
I don't want to go to e-war about batteries. I am just going by personal experience. I have my N4 still, which my wife uses and still uses charging pad still no issues there either.
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EE to charge? No, I'm just saying you might want to think twice before picking up 20 times a day from the pad. Better to get MightyText for when you're at your PC/work to text with.
the google charging pad IS better I would have less issues charging on one of those. However, I'm a cheapie, and use $10 chargers, which heat my phone usually to 40C for a full 0%-100% charge. Not best, but I have resigned myself to the reality of potentially replacing the battery in 18 months if I want the convenience of charging pads everywhere. You might wish to think this way as well. Also, after 18 months, maybe you could just charge it at every opportunity (at that point, who cares, you only need it for another 18 months probably) and that would be enough.
thor1k said:
but honestly many people I've met who plug their phones in all the time to top up, end up having to get the battery replaced after a year.
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All I know is since 1998 I charge my phones to 100% as often as I can find a charging device. I am the only one on my family plan of 5(the others run battery down daily to~30% or more) that doesn't replace their battery before their next upgrade. So my motto is *Top up every chance you get*.
Wiley_11 said:
All I know is since 1998 I charge my phones to 100% as often as I can find a charging device. I am the only one on my family plan of 5(the others run battery down daily to~30% or more) that doesn't replace their battery before their next upgrade. So my motto is *Top up every chance you get*.
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that's encouraging to hear I've never heard that before.
5pik3 said:
I want to buy a wireless charger but I need some advices ^^
What's the best charger for you guys ? I mean what's the more efficient charger, the official from the Google play or others ?
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Bought this for just 8,33 euro shipped (9.99 $) and works like a charm! :good:
thor1k said:
uh yeah, no thanks, charge cycles take their toll on the battery.
people like this are why batteries have to be replaced.
Personally, it's only $15 to do yourself, so not a big deal. Just don't tell people it's fine. Get a degree in Electrical Engineering then tell me it's fine
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I don't think we need a degree in EE... All you need to know about batteries is in this place: http://batteryuniversity.com/
Go a take a look at let those "dogmas" change.
Peace.
JeckaD said:
I don't think we need a degree in EE... All you need to know about batteries is in this place: http://batteryuniversity.com/
Go a take a look at let those "dogmas" change.
Peace.
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like I said-- Battery University also has applicable degrees
thor1k said:
noppppppeeeeeeee, left at full charge lose 20% of capacity after 1 year. see:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
You might be right about the charge cycles, as most things seem to relate to amount of power transferred through the battery, and not 'depth of discharge" but honestly many people I've met who plug their phones in all the time to top up, end up having to get the battery replaced after a year. Apple product, ok no problem they do it free for like 2 years; but I've done nothing but run my batteries all the way down every time and slowcharge every night on USB-500mA (gentler current, kinder to battery, cooler temps, and even a slightly more thorough charge) (just 5% POSSIBLY 10% it's hard to say...probably 5%...I guess I should test this)
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EE to charge? No, I'm just saying you might want to think twice before picking up 20 times a day from the pad. Better to get MightyText for when you're at your PC/work to text with.
the google charging pad IS better I would have less issues charging on one of those. However, I'm a cheapie, and use $10 chargers, which heat my phone usually to 40C for a full 0%-100% charge. Not best, but I have resigned myself to the reality of potentially replacing the battery in 18 months if I want the convenience of charging pads everywhere. You might wish to think this way as well. Also, after 18 months, maybe you could just charge it at every opportunity (at that point, who cares, you only need it for another 18 months probably) and that would be enough.
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Not sure if it makes a difference but nexus 5 uses newer li-po batteries not li-ion.

[Q] Any good SAFE and NOT-chinese power bank?

Ebay has so many kinds of these power banks with huge sizes. I doubt that is real, so i wanted to ask if anybody has reasonable size (not over 3k or 4k mAh), that is safe and not made in China?
Buying something Chinese is really bad, literally every thing i have from china has broken in the first day. And i do not want to buy something electronic like that battery pack from china that could explode or something. All i need is a power pack that could charge around 75% of my battery. I do not need some huge thing. I simply can not get my phone to last throughout a normal school day on normal usage.
Look at the ones Anker offers. They are not cheap but worth every cent.
I have got a large one with about 6000 mAh. But they have also got smaller ones.
Most of their batteries are able to deliver high charging currents, which enables you to charge your phone just as fast as on AC power.
I can really recommend Anker.
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nikssims said:
Ebay has so many kinds of these power banks with huge sizes. I doubt that is real, so i wanted to ask if anybody has reasonable size (not over 3k or 4k mAh), that is safe and not made in China?
Buying something Chinese is really bad, literally every thing i have from china has broken in the first day. And i do not want to buy something electronic like that battery pack from china that could explode or something. All i need is a power pack that could charge around 75% of my battery. I do not need some huge thing. I simply can not get my phone to last throughout a normal school day on normal usage.
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Though I read your "no china" criteria, I would still suggest you to try out the Mi Power Bank. I have been using it for almost 4 months now, and although I had my own reservations regarding a Chinese product that could (literally) kill me, it has been terrific till date. It charges up the phone at almost the same rate as the wall charger, and it itself charges up pretty fast. Comes in two sizes- 5200 mah and 10400 mah. The 5200 mah power bank is what I have, and it is sufficient to fully charge my N5 and charge a Grand 2 upto 20-25%. Plus, it is a lot cheaper that the power banks made by Sony and likes.
Btwn..It actually comes from Xiomi, the makers of Mi3 which has been one of the most successful phones in 2014. This is the only thing I relied on while getting the power bank, and boy am I happy with it.
I didnt knew sony makes power banks too, and thanks for suggestions!
Also, during decharging, does the power bank heats up? (When i charge my phone with the power bank)
nikssims said:
I didnt knew sony makes power banks too, and thanks for suggestions!
Also, during decharging, does the power bank heats up? (When i charge my phone with the power bank)
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No it does not. You can see some YouTube reviews if that helps you. Not sure if you are bothered about it but the finish of the body is the best I have seen on power banks.
FYI
I have NEWNOW power bank. I can charge my n5 for about 5 times completely. Its capacity is 10400mAh. Has 1A and 2,1A charging ports. With the 2,1A port charges my phone fully in about 15-25 minutes. Highly recommend!
http://www.newnow.com/products/newn...ry-usb-power-bank-charger-for-cell-phone.html
EDIT: also there's flashligt! Not sure why, and who needs, but there is
xadidas said:
I have NEWNOW power bank. I can charge my n5 for about 5 times completely. Its capacity is 10400mAh. Has 1A and 2,1A charging ports. With the 2,1A port charges my phone fully in about 15-25 minutes. Highly recommend!
http://www.newnow.com/products/newn...ry-usb-power-bank-charger-for-cell-phone.html
EDIT: also there's flashligt! Not sure why, and who needs, but there is
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It's impossible to full charge the phone in less than 30minutes, certainly not at 2.1A.
Also that looks like a cheap Chinese charger to me. When you see 10,000 maH ($20) for less than the price as most 5000mAh you can assume that they lied about the specifications.
Xiaomi asks 19$ to ship Mi Power Bank to Romania from its European hq! Isn't that a little bit too much?
I've read through this thread because I have the same question. Are there any power banks actually not made in China once you scratch all the "it's made in China BUT" comments?
nikssims said:
Ebay has so many kinds of these power banks with huge sizes. I doubt that is real, so i wanted to ask if anybody has reasonable size (not over 3k or 4k mAh), that is safe and not made in China?
Buying something Chinese is really bad, literally every thing i have from china has broken in the first day. And i do not want to buy something electronic like that battery pack from china that could explode or something. All i need is a power pack that could charge around 75% of my battery. I do not need some huge thing. I simply can not get my phone to last throughout a normal school day on normal usage.
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They are chinese, but Anker has really good build quality and quality control.

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