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Universal - will it work with 2 bluetooth headsets?

Just out of curiosity:
Was thinking of getting a bluetooth caller ID clip like the Sony HBH-200 and also another bluetooth headset like maybe a jabra bt500?
Would the Universal be able to connect to both the headsets and work well?
Just out of curiosity, would like to be able to view the caller id number but use a different bluetooth headset to answer the phone.
Sounds like a lot of work, but I figure it's better than getting the BT800 where you have to look at the number and then put the headset on.
Well, if any of you out there has got 2 bluetooth headsets, would you mind trying it out?
Thanks.

I tried it last nite and it did not work as you expected. It was a great idea though. I was using a HBH-662 (Sony ericson) with a caller ID screen, and another BT headset. Only the second BT headset rings, and the HBH-662 did not respond.
I was thinking before the same idea, but I was expecting a watch (like Casio) that can display the Caller Name via BT. If anyone knows such product (watch) exists, I would love to know.

The Casio watch is a really good idea, but have you seen the size of the watch? It's humongous.

lie_ui said:
I was thinking before the same idea, but I was expecting a watch (like Casio) that can display the Caller Name via BT. If anyone knows such product (watch) exists, I would love to know.
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Seiko look to be rolling one out. Still on the large size though...
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-11282-The+Seiko+Instruments+Inc+Bluetooth+watch.html

Yah....big watches.
However, came across a software that allows you to link to multiple Bluetooth devices (I think that's what it does).
Can somebody try and see if it'll work with 2 bluetooth headsets then?
There is a trial version of the software:
http://www.bluesoleil.com/
If anybody gets a chance to try it out please post the responses here.
Thanks.

Qtek 9000
UNI_QTEK_13077_176_10900_WWE rom
Headsets:
Motorola HT820
BT800
Paired both headsets to the device.
Both devices rang on receiving a call.
With Jet software, it was able to display caller ID.
Was not able to answer the call from the HT820
Didn't try answering from the BT800
HT820 was not able to Voice Command after Jet software installation
Will test it out some more tonight.

You could just get a nokia HS-12w that way you can see who is calling without removing your earpieces !!!

I'm just being vain.
Would like to use a stereo headset without wires and also have a caller ID unit just to view the caller. Was thinking of something like the Nokia that you mention to clip on my front pocket just to view who's calling.

modem_man said:
HT820 was not able to Voice Command after Jet software installation
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hi,
in another thread this is being discussed. appearently this is a "feature" not a bug anyway it is not connected to a special bt headset, but to all bt headsets (afaik)

Well...
After extensive testing, I have realized that my dreams of being vain is not possible....at least until somebody starts selling just a bluetooth caller-id display only - like the watch.
Anybody out there know of a bluetooth caller-id diplayer only besides the big ass watch?
Anyway, here's how I tested it.
Bear in mind that this is what I wanted to do.
Since I have a Universal, pulling it out and then twisting the clamshell, takes too long and it's too cumbersome to do.
So I wanted a caller-id display to display the caller-id (name preferably) without opening the clamshell and answer the phone via a bluetooth stereo headset.
Figured I test out the theory that having 2 headsets, 1 with caller-id and one with stereo where I can view the caller-id on one and answer the phone on the other one.
Tried it and true enough as posted above, it doesn't work.
Until there's a new bluetooth caller-id device out there, l8r.

You can check the new product from Cardo Systems. It's more or less the thing you want. On piece with caller ID and the normal headset.
http://www.cardowireless.com/scala750/

Handsfree functionality: Do I still need a carkit?

Assuming I have my TP2 in a dash holder like this one from Brodit (for navigation purposes):
Since one of the main features of the TP2 is its handsfree functionality, I was wondering, will I still need a (bluetooth) carkit? Has anybody tried using the TP2 handsfree while driving? Could you understand the other person and, more important, could the other person hear you?

This car holder has only a power supply. But there is no hands free function available. For this reason you need a bluetooth headset / carkit.

Handsfree while driving is good. I heard other people loud and clear and they do no not notice any echo (I asked later) and can understand me.
It works while using navigation software too.
So I won't use any extra hardware!

I've stopped using my bluetooth handsfree. The built-in handsfree is just as good, if not better - both for me and for the person I'm speaking to.

What you need and what might be the best solution could be two differnet things.
I'd recommend investing in a copy of Microsoft Voice Command, press one button and you can tell the phone to dial a number or any of your contacts, it saves trying to navigate the phone menus at the same time as navigating the roads
Gordon

GordonTGopher said:
What you need and what might be the best solution could be two differnet things.
I'd recommend investing in a copy of Microsoft Voice Command, press one button and you can tell the phone to dial a number or any of your contacts, it saves trying to navigate the phone menus at the same time as navigating the roads
Gordon
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If only you could dial from the Bluetooth device!

Bright.Light said:
Handsfree while driving is good. I heard other people loud and clear and they do no not notice any echo (I asked later) and can understand me.
It works while using navigation software too.
So I won't use any extra hardware!
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jmak said:
I've stopped using my bluetooth handsfree. The built-in handsfree is just as good, if not better - both for me and for the person I'm speaking to.
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@Bright.Light and jmak:
Thanks for this good news! This gives me the info to at least try it without a carkit and buy the Rhodium and the Brodit powered holder.

Bluetooth car-kit: hands-free and stereo audio

I have been using the Touch Pro 2 for a little while now, and I must say: no regret at all that I've bought it.
But the reason I post here is because I'm having a problem with my car-kit and the Touch Pro 2 when they are connected through bluetooth.
First of all, some data about the car-kit
Car stereo: JVC KD-BT22
Bluetooth functions: handsfree calling and Bluetooth Audio Streaming
Bluetooth version: 1.2 certified
Profile: HFP 1.5, OPP 1.1, A2DP 1.2, AVRCP 1.3
The situation:
When I pair the devices I can check two options:
1) Handsfree
2) Stereo Audio
This should be fine, but the problem comes next:
- When I both check handsfree and stereo audio, I don't get any streaming audio (I just hear about one second the song which is playing at the phone), if I call or get called nothing hapenned except the display of the phone showing the caller. The car-kit just keeps playing (for example) the CD.
- When I uncheck the stereo audio, just connecting the handsfree everything works "fine" (some small problems, not mentionable).
- When I only connect stereo audio the same happens as described before: the song which is playing at the phone I hear about one second, and after that it's silenced (the song is still "going forward", but no sound, nor on the phone, nor on the car stereo).
I've tried different set-ups, searched the forums and didn't saw anyone with this problem/no sollution, so I hope someone could help me.
This happened with the Stock Rom and also the custom rom I'm using right now, no difference. When I connect a stereo headphone (from Nokia) through Bluetooh, everything works fine.

don't pair from the phone use your Radio to pair...i had the same problem with my Pioneer at first so i searched for the device from my stereo and it worked just fine and ...i hope this helps... and make sure your discovery is always on...take care!

Well, that in a case makes sense...
The carkit also connected to my phone when discovery was turn off. Seemed strange to me already. A little, maybe stupid, question: what do I need to swith off/turn off on the phone so the phone won't connect to the carkit, but that I have to let the carkit connect to the phone?

HTC aware
I have similar problems with the BT stack in the TP2, which is disappointing having migrated from a Snap. I e-mailed HTC who admit they are aware of BT problems with the TP2 and advised me to keep an eye on the support page for a fix.

apv245l said:
I have similar problems with the BT stack in the TP2, which is disappointing having migrated from a Snap. I e-mailed HTC who admit they are aware of BT problems with the TP2 and advised me to keep an eye on the support page for a fix.
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I also tried mailing HTC about this problem. The reply wasn't so hopegiving
"We're sorry, but the carkit isn't compatible. Please fill out the form for our technical support team"... Summary: I've not been too lucky with this combination
Hope they might do something about it after all. Me just thinking that Bluetooth = Bluetooth, but it's more complicated than that.

I also have the same problem with JVC-KD-AVX2 streaming audio. couple of times i did manage to get it to work, but once the stereo is turned off and on, i lose the streaming again.
i called HTC and emailed them. one said my stereo is not compatible, but i did have it working kind of.
not sure what the problem is as the touch pro1 worked fine. also my friends N97 worked fine

did all of you use your stereo to search for your phone or your phone to search for your stereo... if u used your phone then try using the stereo to to look for your phone under the connections menu and it should work

nemo0405 said:
did all of you use your stereo to search for your phone or your phone to search for your stereo... if u used your phone then try using the stereo to to look for your phone under the connections menu and it should work
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Sorry for my late reply.
I can't connect/pair the phone using the stereo, to bad.

Well, I have the Pioneer Stereo and what I discovered was you have to do it from the stereo. For some unknown reason it errors out from phone. Since that, I have no problems, further more it reads my text as well as incoming e-mails. Hope that help

DownNeverOut said:
Well, I have the Pioneer Stereo and what I discovered was you have to do it from the stereo. For some unknown reason it errors out from phone. Since that, I have no problems, further more it reads my text as well as incoming e-mails. Hope that help
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Which Pioneer are you using? I'm using the F700, and for some reason it won't mute the radio when in a call. I haven't gotten time to mess around with it much though. Reading incoming texts would be great.

i bought a car kit MP3 player for my car. I paired it with my TP2 and enabled the "BT Audio" and "BT Handsfree". Outgoing calls work fine with no problems at all. But during incoming calls there is a problem. If the incoming call is from someone saved in my contacts, the BT carkit does not ring. If its from an unknown number (not saved in my contacts), it works perfectly. I tried all the tweaks and hacks in this forum but nothing worked. Anymore ideas.

nemo0405 said:
don't pair from the phone use your Radio to pair...i had the same problem with my Pioneer at first so i searched for the device from my stereo and it worked just fine and ...i hope this helps... and make sure your discovery is always on...take care!
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x2, exact same problem with MY pioneer on 6.1 ... took me an hour to figure out how to pair it correctly, and it happened completely by accident out of frustration while I was pounding my fists into the horn haha. Now I know better...
set your phone to discoverable, then pair from the radio, confirm on the phone. good luck - Mark

qaliza said:
i bought a car kit MP3 player for my car. I paired it with my TP2 and enabled the "BT Audio" and "BT Handsfree". Outgoing calls work fine with no problems at all. But during incoming calls there is a problem. If the incoming call is from someone saved in my contacts, the BT carkit does not ring. If its from an unknown number (not saved in my contacts), it works perfectly. I tried all the tweaks and hacks in this forum but nothing worked. Anymore ideas.
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The only thing I can think of is that maybe you have different ringtones set up for contacts and unknown contacts. Or your carkit is broken.
Hope this helps - Mark

qaliza said:
i bought a car kit MP3 player for my car. I paired it with my TP2 and enabled the "BT Audio" and "BT Handsfree". Outgoing calls work fine with no problems at all. But during incoming calls there is a problem. If the incoming call is from someone saved in my contacts, the BT carkit does not ring. If its from an unknown number (not saved in my contacts), it works perfectly. I tried all the tweaks and hacks in this forum but nothing worked. Anymore ideas.
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RADRaze2KX said:
x2, exact same problem with MY pioneer on 6.1 ... took me an hour to figure out how to pair it correctly, and it happened completely by accident out of frustration while I was pounding my fists into the horn haha. Now I know better...
set your phone to discoverable, then pair from the radio, confirm on the phone. good luck - Mark
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Try the cab from this thread ------> Fix for playing ringtones over bluetooth headset.
It's meant so that the actual ringtone you have set will play on the car kit. I know my car kit used to have its own ring which was... boring to say the least. Now the various ring tones set to people on my phone play through the car kit. Anyway... This MIGHT fix the issue you guys are having as well.

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The only thing I can think of is that maybe you have different ringtones set up for contacts and unknown contacts. Or your carkit is broken.
Hope this helps - Mark
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Yes i do have diifferent ringtones for contacts and also different pictures. The problem is in the contacts name. When i remove the name and leave it unnamed it works fine.
Thanks for your reply..

Aaron McCarthy said:
Try the cab from this thread ------> Fix for playing ringtones over bluetooth headset.
It's meant so that the actual ringtone you have set will play on the car kit. I know my car kit used to have its own ring which was... boring to say the least. Now the various ring tones set to people on my phone play through the car kit. Anyway... This MIGHT fix the issue you guys are having as well.
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it did not fix my problem but thanks anyway. The problem im facing is that any contact saved with a name wont be recieved on the car kit. while if its left unnamed it will work fine.

Answering calls without looking at screen?

I looked around for a post, but didn't find one.
As I understand it, when receiving an incoming call, you have to
slide up the screen, then click the slender "accept" button (and
then click the little down arrows, then click speakerphone if you're
in a car without bluetooth).
Is that really the best/only way to do it? Anyone working on an
app that makes answering calls just hitting the search button or
something?
As of now, I find it very distracting/dangerous to answer calls while
driving.
Tips?

Sorry but I also would like to know how to terminate a phone call without looking at the screen
At the moment I'm turning the screen on, and then click on 'terminate the phone call'
But I'm sure there is an easier way, especially using the physical buttons.
Thanks for any tip.

if you have bluetooth hooked up to your phone, you can just answer the phone call via the bluetooth device.

Bluetooth is the only hands-free way, I'm thinking they weren't trying to make it particularly easy to use while driving, in many places this is illegal, in the US it's happening more places all the time.
Some places are even attacking Bluetooth usage while driving.

ckacey said:
Bluetooth is the only hands-free way, I'm thinking they weren't trying to make it particularly easy to use while driving, in many places this is illegal, in the US it's happening more places all the time.
Some places are even attacking Bluetooth usage while driving.
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Agreed, and wish MS would also include rSAP as many luxury European vehicles (Mercedes, VW Group including Audi, Bentley, Lamborghini, and other manufacturers/brands) support rSAP, which offers great features such as address book migration to the car for ease of dialing out.

Oranjoose said:
I looked around for a post, but didn't find one.
As I understand it, when receiving an incoming call, you have to
slide up the screen, then click the slender "accept" button (and
then click the little down arrows, then click speakerphone if you're
in a car without bluetooth).
Is that really the best/only way to do it? Anyone working on an
app that makes answering calls just hitting the search button or
something?
As of now, I find it very distracting/dangerous to answer calls while
driving.
Tips?
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don't answer calls while driving...

enjoythemusic said:
Agreed, and wish MS would also include rSAP as many luxury European vehicles (Mercedes, VW Group including Audi, Bentley, Lamborghini, and other manufacturers/brands) support rSAP, which offers great features such as address book migration to the car for ease of dialing out.
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I've heard his protocol is on its way out. My Honda pulls the contacts just fine from my HD7 & 2 and the G1, pulls the exchange data and loads it into the car.

ckacey said:
I've heard his protocol is on its way out.
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Sad if true as with rSAP the cell phone antenna/receiver that is built into the car is far superior in power than the one inside the phone. What protocol of Bluetooth is your Honda using to pull the data and i assume it pulls the data and uses an antenna/amplifier unit built into your car instead of the cell phones?

TBH you dont really need to look at the screen to answer it, flick up and press in the middle on the left....
But like everyone said just get handsfree, if your car doesnt have it you can buy them stupidly cheap anyway.
On the new MINI its really good, pulls the contacts and all of your text messages from the HD7, you can read any new text messages on the navi screen

I think it was HTC or LG that has an app out there that allows you to do various phone things with the placement of the phone. Like turn on the speakerphone by placing the phone face down after you've answered a call or turning it face down while ringing to silence the ringer...

Yeh the HTC app called attentive phone.

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Sad if true as with rSAP the cell phone antenna/receiver that is built into the car is far superior in power than the one inside the phone. What protocol of Bluetooth is your Honda using to pull the data and i assume it pulls the data and uses an antenna/amplifier unit built into your car instead of the cell phones?
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I think it uses Address Book Profile, it's abbreviated as ABP (I'm not 100% sure what is abbreviated there)
It uses the mic and amp in the car for audio, it uses the antenna built into the phone, I've never used the external antenna port on my phones, I think my Tmo Wing was the last one with this port available externally.
For A2DP I'm using a device called FIPO, and a Soundgate core, and a soundgate Honda kit. The Honda kit hooks to the back of my nav unit and pretends to be a CD changer, so that I can use the controls on my steering wheel and nav screen. The Core is connected to the Honda Kit, core comes in two models, iPod and Zune, I used the Zune for my Zune. I use the iPod Core to connect to the FIPO. The FIPO is controlled by the phone, and it switches between that device and the nav unit's Handsfree profile based on wether or not I'm on a call. After I'm finished with my call the phone switches back to the FIPIO and resumes the audio.

Thanks for the detailed reply, as i use the Dice Electronics unit for an iTouch, which like your unit one needs to remove 6-disc changer and insert the Dice unit that hooks to the iTouch. What i like about rSAP is that the car has a far better cellular amp/antenna plus rSAP migrated contacts from the SIM to the car's computer. While i could take out the sim card and insert it into the car directly, that is a hassle versus using bluetooth rSAP for each time i enter/leave the car. The car does work via 'basic' normal Bluetooth with the WP7 for handsfree with all the usual features, yet enjoyed the rSAP advantages. Thanks again, ALL help is ALWAYS apprecaited.

BT headset that doesn't try to be clever

Can anyone suggest a BT headset that gives good sound quality and noise reduction?
I have a Blueant Q2 and it's a PoS. It doesn't tell me who's calling, for a start; and because it's so 'clever', if I want to call someone I have to say "Phone commands", wait a bit, then say "Call person". So an extra step for no reason.
I am looking for one that I can press the button and it'll start up Voice Dial (or whatever it's called). All the name recognition etc can be done by the phone, thanks very much.
Does the Jawbone require this extra step/awkward faffing about?
Any others?
Thanks.

I am using Sonyericsson MW600 with my phone, it works great with music anyway. The song title show's on the display... I presume that the contact name will show on the display as well.
Havent made a phone call with it yet so that part I cant tell but I guess it work great there too.

CRzz said:
I am using Sonyericsson MW600 with my phone, it works great with music anyway. The song title show's on the display... I presume that the contact name will show on the display as well.
Havent made a phone call with it yet so that part I cant tell but I guess it work great there too.
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its what im using and its superb

CRzz said:
I am using Sonyericsson MW600 with my phone, it works great with music anyway. The song title show's on the display... I presume that the contact name will show on the display as well.
Havent made a phone call with it yet so that part I cant tell but I guess it work great there too.
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How do you get song info to show? I have one but it doesn't tell me the song...

gangsterjoop said:
How do you get song info to show? I have one but it doesn't tell me the song...
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Stock ROM probably won't do it (may need CM7) and even it if does, the stock music player is about the only one that passes the track info to the device.

knightnz said:
Stock ROM probably won't do it (may need CM7) and even it if does, the stock music player is about the only one that passes the track info to the device.
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Proud MIUI user here, isn't working on stock music player nor on PlayerPro, but it doesn't matter that much for me to switch ROM.
Thanks for the reply, though.

I am using also my MW600 and it works brilliant.
Shows track info, also caller ID, by pushing the call button, voice control is opening.

CRzz said:
I am using Sonyericsson MW600 with my phone, it works great with music anyway. The song title show's on the display... I presume that the contact name will show on the display as well.
Havent made a phone call with it yet so that part I cant tell but I guess it work great there too.
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I was looking for one for just voice.
For stereo audio I have the Plantronics 903+ and they're brilliant.

i heard that samsung bluetooth HS 3000, with Noise Reduction, dual active pairing, Stereo seems feasible, anyone tried?

fergusstrachan said:
Can anyone suggest a BT headset that gives good sound quality and noise reduction?
I have a Blueant Q2 and it's a PoS. It doesn't tell me who's calling, for a start; and because it's so 'clever', if I want to call someone I have to say "Phone commands", wait a bit, then say "Call person". So an extra step for no reason.
I am looking for one that I can press the button and it'll start up Voice Dial (or whatever it's called). All the name recognition etc can be done by the phone, thanks very much.
Does the Jawbone require this extra step/awkward faffing about?
Any others?
Thanks.
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Plantronics Voyager 855 is a combination of a standard-looking BT earpiece with a second earpiece unit that plugs into the first via a thin nylon reinforced cable to create stereo BT headset. I have owned at least 30 or 35 BT headsets and this is the best one I've had for sound quality, ease of pairing, long battery life, etc. Try Amazon: w w w .amazon.com/gp/product/B000UBNFT2/ref=oh_o03_s00_i01_details

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How do you get song info to show? I have one but it doesn't tell me the song...
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I get the song title from stock music app only... don't get it from any other app that I have tried.
Sorry for late reply... didnt this until now!