Hi guys .. I have had my Desire Z for a little while and I want to play around with ROMs now ... I am looking for a way to make a *full* backup of the phone .. That means the OS itself, all its settings (alarms, personalization stuff, stored passwords, installed apps, etc ..), all application and personal data (both on ROM and SD card), etc ...
That is, one backup that when restored, returns the complete phone including all its settings and data to the state the phone was in when the backup was created ..
Now there are two Market tools I've found that claim to do something similar: My Backup Pro and Titanium Backup, and I also hear that ClockWorkMod can create backups ...
But I don't know if these tools backup *everything* like I want, so any advice given here would be really appreciated ..
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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cjward23 said:
Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
When you are rooted you can use titanium backup to back up all your apps, data & settings. Then when you install a new ROM you can easily restore everything.
The back up you do in CWM is called a nandroid and this backs up your entire ROM including apps, data & settings. as soon as you are rooted you will want to do this so you have a back up of your stock ROM incase anything goes wrong and you need to get your stock ROM easily.
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Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
ahmadka said:
Ok thanks for that advice ...
So assuming my phone is rooted (it isn't now but I will do it once this issue is resolved), which method is better for me which backs up *everything* (stock OS, personal data, app data, media, settings, SD card stuff, etc ..) ? CWM or Titanium Backup ?
I have heard that CWM doesn't backup everything .. that it leaves some stuff out (not exactly sure what this is though) .. :/
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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never ever ever use TiBU for backing up anything other than downloaded apps. (imo, some people may disagree, but I have never had success with TiBU outside of saving a few downloaded apps... and even then it seems to be hit or miss for me)
CWM is the best option for creating a full backup. when you restore a nandroid backup, it's like going back in time... everything is exactly as it was when that backup was created.
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Hmm ... Are you absolutely sure that CWM backs up everything ? That is, the stock ROM, all my android's settings, sms, contacts, emails, list of apps installed, app data, my personal data (photos, videos, music, documents, etc ..) ? And does it also backup data from both the built-in memory and stuff on the SD card ?
Reason why I ask this is because this afternoon I came across a thread (can't seem to find it now) where somebody said CWM leaves some stuff out in backing up and then somebody else suggested using Titanium Backup ...
So I want to proceed with CWM only if you're dead sure that it backs up *everyyyyyythinggggg* ...
Btw, I don't mean to question to knowledge, I just want to be sure, thats all
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Ok, the only way to make a 100% backup is when you are rooted.
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+1
Root + Titanium Backup.
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
vikraam said:
How can we back up the stock rom?? Cwm will not be present on the stock rom. So how?
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When you root you will still be using your stock ROM, you then back up your stock rooted ROM. There is no way to back up an unrooted ROM.
Unrooted stock ROM's are available in the form of an official RUU most of which you will find if you read the stickies in the development section of the forums.
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ahmadka said:
Conflicting statements people .. :/
CWM or titanium backup ?
Btw, does titanium backup also backup the stock OS/ROM ?
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Titanium will not back up the os, you can use to back up all of the system apps and data. But as a previous poster said this is not good a good idea as restoring them tends to be problematic.
And don't worry about your sdcard flashing roms will not affect any data on your sdcard.
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mmb_z said:
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Root + Titanium Backup.
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ahmadka said:
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the only thing you could theoretically lose are photos, videos, etc that are stored on the sdcard... but this would only happen if you deleted/formatted the sd card. otherwise, they just move with you from rom to rom.
I don't know what people think titanium backup is for, but seriously... it's not as magnificent as it is commonly made out to be. its only real use is restoring stuff from /data (ie apps and settings). even then, it is known to be problematic. I have used it in the past but I finally got sick of it when I realized that half of the time I used it to backup/restore it ended up doing more harm than good.
CWM is the best option for making a full backup of EVERYTHING on your phone (remember, your sd card is not part of your phone... it doesn't get backed up/restored via CWM). restoring a CWM backup will revert your phone to the exact state it was in at the time of the backup.
I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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I used titanium backup and it worked for everything. Even backed the stuff up to my PC.
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that's awesome, but you will encounter problems with Ti backup if you try to restore anything from /system after installing a new rom. if you've come from one aosp rom to another, you might get lucky and not have any trouble (especially if they are a similar flavor of aosp), but if you try to restore anything from a sense rom's /system to an aosp rom's /system, or vice versa, you're in for a lot of force closing and general bass-ackwardness.
op: the BEST way is a nandroid backup. if you try and restore titanium backup apps and settings over whichever rom you've installed, you can almost guarantee something will be broken... just do it the right way and do a nandroid backup via CWM and save yourself the trouble.
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
ahmadka said:
Guys I forgot to mention, my phone is NOT currently rooted (Yes I realize I should have mentioned this in the first post) .. so what can I use now to backup everything like I want ?
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Not much really, there are apps available to back up sms and contacts will be synced to Google.
todo backup by easeus...free too. works great
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1) Root.
2) Install CWM Recovery.
3) Nandroid.
There's your backup.
How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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How do you guys do backups when you try out different roms? Am I bound to lose scores and settings in games and apps every time i change rom?
(sorry for what may be a stupid question, but i understood the answers given earlier that making a Nandroid recovery will also recover the rom at the time of the backup not just apps and settings)
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A nandroid back does a complete back of system, apps, data, and settings. When you restore a nandroid your phone will be restored to the exact point it was at before you preformed the nandroid.
To back up apps and data, you will need to use an app like titanium backup. you then can restore apps and data, including game save and scores after you flash a new rom.
But it is not advised to back up and restore system data and settings with titanium back up
before i rooted i took backups whit MyBackup.
after you get rooted, take Clean CWM backup of your phone.
when you are up and running on a custom rom, take CWM backup, and back up downloaded apps whit Titanium backup.
If you are going from sense rom to sense rom, you dont necessaryli need to wipe your data and apps, so you don't have to restore anything. If you are going for completely different rom, you need wipe everything, after you are running in new rom, you cant get just the apps from cwm backup, it would restore your old rom too, so now restore your apps and stuff from TI backups. and if you don't like the new rom, use CWM backup to go back to your last rom.
so you need both backups cwm and Ti..
and as said before app backups might cause some problems when going from rom to rom
I have been jumping between different MIUI roms, they are basically the same so i haven't wiped anything(except dalvik cache) when flashing new rom, so everything will stay the way they are, and no ned to restore anything, if that's the case.
What comes to the stuff on SDcard, it will be just fine, if you want to back up your pics/music/vids, etc from your sdcard, just copy them to your computer.
Hey there, this is my first android phone and well,,, I do not fully understand the meaning of root. I do want to delete some of my stock apps and what not so i rooted my device from a tutorial, but I don't know where to go from here. I looked at a lot of forums on roms and backup and what not, but I just do not understand any of these technicalities, but really want too.
Can someone tell me how to delete and my stock apps and how to customize my phone?
Thank you!
Download and install the paid version of titanium backup, you can use this app to freeze all the app that you want to delete and backup all current apps. Then you can download and install a custom launcher from the market.
Check out the custom ROMS in the development thread. Always make a Nandroid backup before customizing anything and backup your efs folder in case you loose your IMEI number somewhere in the flashing process.
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Rhiannon224 said:
Download and install the paid version of titanium backup, you can use this app to freeze all the app that you want to delete and backup all current apps. Then you can download and install a custom launcher from the market.
Check out the custom ROMS in the development thread. Always make a Nandroid backup before customizing anything and backup your efs folder in case you loose your IMEI number somewhere in the flashing process.
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Thanks for the reply!
I'll purchase the titanium back up.
How do I make this Nandroid back up? And how do I back up my efs folder?
dkim3 said:
Thanks for the reply!
I'll purchase the titanium back up.
How do I make this Nandroid back up? And how do I back up my efs folder?
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Go to recovery.there is a option.backup or restore.
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I'm not a flashaholic, but do from time to time especially when a new version of my favorite ROM is released. I was wondering what the easiest and quickest to restore my phone to the way it was before flashing the new ROM. I mean apps and launcher. I have Titanium and My Backup pro but it still takes a couple of hours of messing around to get back to normal. If anyone has a quicker way I'd love to hear it.
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sndtubes said:
I'm not a flashaholic, but do from time to time especially when a new version of my favorite ROM is released. I was wondering what the easiest and quickest to restore my phone to the way it was before flashing the new ROM. I mean apps and launcher. I have Titanium and My Backup pro but it still takes a couple of hours of messing around to get back to normal. If anyone has a quicker way I'd love to hear it.
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I assume you have a custom recovery installed since you mentioned flashing roms? If so, do a complete nandroid/backup (CWM/TWRP) of your phone just prior to flashing anything (good idea to do this prior to any flash). In TWRP, you can name your backup file so you can remember what rom/kernel/modem/recovery/etc you had at the time of this backup. Usually takes around 5-6 min to back up ~ 2Gb (and conversely, to restore). When you restore, do proper partition wipes first, then restore your desired backup... phone should be exactly as it was (apps, launchers, rom, settings, etc).
Thanks. I do use TWRP. I always nandroid back up before flashing a new rom. I guess I didn't understand what a nandroid backup was. I thought that it would reinstall all of the old stuff like the old rom and kernel in case the new rom borked something. So if I backup and flash a new rom and then nandroid restore, I will have the new rom and kernel with my apps and launcher intact? If so, then very cool.
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sndtubes said:
Thanks. I do use TWRP. I always nandroid back up before flashing a new rom. I guess I didn't understand what a nandroid backup was. I thought that it would reinstall all of the old stuff like the old rom and kernel in case the new rom borked something. So if I backup and flash a new rom and then nandroid restore, I will have the new rom and kernel with my apps and launcher intact? If so, then very cool.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the nandroid have the rom you backed up? Restoring that backup will wipe the new rom.
I use titanium backup as well and it takes me less than 5 minutes to go back to normal. Apps and launcher the same.
sndtubes said:
Thanks. I do use TWRP. I always nandroid back up before flashing a new rom. I guess I didn't understand what a nandroid backup was. I thought that it would reinstall all of the old stuff like the old rom and kernel in case the new rom borked something. So if I backup and flash a new rom and then nandroid restore, I will have the new rom and kernel with my apps and launcher intact? If so, then very cool.
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I got you... thought you were looking for a way to restore a complete previous setup (rom/kernel/radio/data/recovery) if you didn't like the rom you are on... sounds like you just want to restore /data partition (which can be done in TWRP)... but won't restore system partition apps (risky). If you are just looking to put your previous 'user' apps/data back, TiBu is an option (only restore "user" apps/data or "missing apps/data". I don't think TiBu will restore your widgets/launchers as the were, but you can individually (within the app) backup Apex, and Nova launcher settings and homescreens... then restore them after you're up and running on the new rom
I know it is a very newbie question, but how can I keep all the apps and configuration when I switch between roms? Does restoring from nandroid backup will restore the phone and configuration to back how it was? Thanks
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nandroid backup will not keep the game data. use titanium backup that's the easiest way
nitropower said:
I know it is a very newbie question, but how can I keep all the apps and configuration when I switch between roms? Does restoring from nandroid backup will restore the phone and configuration to back how it was? Thanks
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Titanium backup will do the trick but sometimes when restoring old data I've had some issues with lots of force closes and some other unexplainable strange things going on. It's best to start fresh on a new rom.
Titanium backup is your answer
If you back up apps and data from your personally installed apps, restoring should not cause any problems. If you try to backup and restore system apps and data across different roms (ie tw and aosp), you're likely to experience some problems.
When it comes to system data, it can be hit or miss. Generally the only thing that will likely break is contacts, as each provider (samsung, htc) puts their own spin on it, and it tends to not be compatible. but if you use google to store your contacts, you should be golden. After some time you'll know which parts are compatible across all roms (within the same version family).
So, backup everything you want to keep. And make a full nandroid.
Install your new rom.
Restore your personal apps and data (like angry birds)
Make sure everything is golden.
Make a nandroid
One by one, restore any system data you want (like accounts, wifi access points, mms).
After each one, go through a reboot cycle, make sure everything works.
Nandroid and restore next system data
This way you can easily back out of a restore that breaks something without having to start over again. And you will get a feel for what's restorable and what isnt.
Beware changing back to 4.1 from 4.2. There are threads on this worth reading.
And, yes, nandroid will restore everything just like you had it, assuming you choose to backup -everything- (which is advisable).
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nitropower said:
I know it is a very newbie question, but how can I keep all the apps and configuration when I switch between roms? Does restoring from nandroid backup will restore the phone and configuration to back how it was? Thanks
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Titanium backup works like charm..but u can restore from nandroid backup too..just install nandroid manager app from play store and restore all ur data including call logs, sms n everything!!
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shakeyfingers said:
nandroid backup will not keep the game data. use titanium backup that's the easiest way
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Through philz CWM I'm currently having 3 roms in my back up. After installing a new rom, I just restore data and all my games data comes back without any problem.
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Titanium is the best thing since sliced bread. Although some apps won't give you notifications if you don't clean install them
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Titanium back, my backup pro
these 2 apps have helped me alot while trying out different roms....sometimes when titanium backup fails i use my backup pro
So yesterday I used an App called System Control Pro to backup all my Apps+Data before I flashed SinlessRom coming from stock.
Flashed the ROM, reinstalled System Control Pro and restored the Apps+Data, but almost all the apps when opening them show the unfortunately the app is not responding force close message. The backup did a terrible job, although I did do a TWRP backup (Nandroid?) before flashing the rom.
Anyway what is the cleanest most stable solution to backing up the Apps+Data? After flashing ROM's I want my Apps+Data to be restored and working cleanly.
Should I be using something like Titanium Backup instead, or is there some other good apps out there?
Thanks
TB has always been very solid for me. I use it all of the time, and very very rarely has it ever failed me...but usually it was my error or oversight.
TB is nice, but it gets annoying having to restore each app separately. I tried TWRP nandoid, and when I did a factory reset, it messed up because of permission issues.
I used CWM recovery on my Nook Tablet, and it always worked for nandroid backups. Make an app+data backup, move the folder over to your computer, flash your rom, restore all your apps+data in CWM.
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TB is nice, but it gets annoying having to restore each app separately. I tried TWRP nandoid, and when I did a factory reset, it messed up because of permission issues.
I used CWM recovery on my Nook Tablet, and it always worked for nandroid backups. Make an app+data backup, move the folder over to your computer, flash your rom, restore all your apps+data in CWM.
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I would just buy the pro version of tb. It makes everything so much easier.
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Titanium Backup it is then thanks all for your replies.