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XDA2s Camcorder Software??

Hi guys,
I currently have a Nokia 6600, from the factory its video recording software is naff, however I simply downloaded some new software that upgraded its recording time etc.
I have an XDA 2s arriving tomorrow, just wondering if there's anything out there that'll allow 30fps recording, or better resolution etc? or even lower resolution with higher frame rate?
Many thanks!

resolution and fps are hardware desided by the chip
at times you can lower the resolution and get better fps
that repend on how the chip handle refresh
nothing can give a true larger resolution then what the chip support
all phones (i know off) use cmos cam chips and i've never seen any results from any of those which would quality as anything your topic name would imply
colours are never as good as ccd
fps are never as good as ccd
image stability is never as good as ccd
ccd is what real digi cams use
they use lots more power then cmos which is why they are being used
and they cost much less to make

rudegar, Youre right on the resolution, but afaik the framerate is not completely chip dependent. Where the chip limits possibilities, the cpu does too. Quality is the result of (next to colour etc) resolution & framerate. in other words: Data-troughput & data compression.
Given the limitations of the chip & cpu I can imagine to get ie. a higher framerate using a lower resolution.

Thanks for your replies, I did guess that the resolution was chip/cmos dependent - but as other chap says, the framerate is down to the capture software, which is why I'm wondering whether someone has tweaked this yet? even to squeeze 25fps?
Is this something anyone could try with the manufacturers software, or is it not available as open release yet?

One other performance limiter to consider is the speed of the storage medium being written to... and SD is quite slow in the general scheme of things.

720p recording at 30fps

can i get 720p recording at 30fps on desire
i m tired of this **** never gives above 10-15 fps
in day time in bright light it might give 20-24fps....but still audio is out of sync and **** like tht
i know desire reduces frame rate to prevent picture from turning grainyin low light especially at night.
even under bright tubelights i get 10fps nothing more than that.
also light constantly keeps on flickering...the light sensors further reduce the frame rate
bad thing is that even after 1.5 yrs after the release of desire....HTC didnt do anything to fix this in the gingerbread
i have tried stuff like setting ISO to 800 and increasing exposure levels to increase fps but still its not good enough
some of th expert developers out here have been able to do the impossible and bring stuff on the desire which is unbelievable...
but i seem to find no one who has been able to fix the camera on desire...
plz guys look into this....
can the camera app be tweaked to make it record at constant 30fps...
can the variable fps be fixed .
i dont care if quality drops or not....coz who cares if u get quality which is not watching
i dont mind grainy images but i want 30fps....can the developers do some tweaking/??coz i know the hardware is there to handle

do this:
-change the desire camera with a better one
-change the desire gpu with a better one
-write the correct drivers and kernel to handle the news parts
and thats it...
or just keep in mind this phone is not capable to make great hd video.

so u say its a hardware problem????
also is the hardware on other HTC phones like sensation and desire S the same???
I heard these phones also suffer from same bad fps in low light problem

Desire S - has Newer SoC, Single 1Ghz CPU, but Adreno 205 GPU - it makes very good 720p videos, but with lower FPS (but not below 23 in low light) - My roommate has it and it is miles better, than my Desire.
The Sensation has even newer SoC - Dual-core 1.2 GHz and Adreno 220 GPU - I tested my collegues device, and it had no struggles even with 1080p in low light.

that you have an hardware problem is my opinion, too

danielluib said:
that you have an hardware problem is my opinion, too
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Like everyone with this device.

so is it worth upgrading???
i am looking forward to HTC amaze...
I hope it doesnt suffer from lower fps problem
(also fps not lower than 23fps in low light does not sound bad)
now i am confused whether I should go for droid RAZR,galaxy S2 or galaxy nexus...
i liked HTC for HTC sense...now with all these devices receiving Ice cream sandwich....
i am thinking UI will be same for all....so confused

You can try the recording on cyanogenmod 7. I think the 720p framerate is a bit better.

[Q] 1080p video recording inconsistencies

Hola everyone.
So got my HOX last Friday, and been loving my phone. However, I decided to test the video recording capabilities.
I went to a nearby starbucks and just randomly recorded people passing by and I do notice slight jittering sometimes. So I decided to check the framerate with MX Player.
To my surprise, it says 1920x1080 @ 60fps! (well 59.xxxxx). Granted, it was a really well lit starbucks but even then.. I remember the camera only being able to record at 30fps?
Then I came back, and I'm in my room now and it's 7.30pm. So I decided to try again. I pointed my camera at my room light and started recording. I focused on the light so everything surrounding the light is just pitch black. This way I can get higher fps (light is way bright, hence faster shutter speed, theoretically more fps).
Then I checked and it shows @ 30fps? @[email protected]
I recorded another video, this time at a pitch black pc monitor. Fps dropped to an expected 14.xx fps.
Is the HOX camera really capable of recording [email protected] if it's bright enough? I don't know but that's what the file properties is telling me. Anyone experience the inconsistent to sometimes record at 30fps and sometimes at 60fps?

No one has experienced this? >.<

nope
i see min 6mbps, max10mbps and fps between 19 (yes, even in daylight!) and 29
in the evening (lowlight outside) i get 14 fps
the quality is really good though (lighting and noise wise) but the bitrate sucks.
fps is a tradeoff with exposure though in lowlight.

Hmm, then I'm not sure why I see some of my recorded videos showing at 60fps. Will record more in daylight tomorrow and will do more analysis.

That's maybe a tegra3 issue. Tegra2 has the same issue. Let's see AT&T version with Krait processor...

I can vouch for this, I also saw it on a couple of videos and I was just as surprised, I assumed it was a software glitch.
Will try to take a picture of it if stumble upon it again.

I've never been able to reproduce 60fps again after I created this thread... >.<
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

ArmedandDangerous said:
I've never been able to reproduce 60fps again after I created this thread... >.<
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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Do you still have a 60 fps video? Can you upload one?

Could it be possible that you accidentally recorded a slowmo 60 fps video instead of a normal one?
i think only the htc video player will play these in slowmo and others might call it 60 fps vids,
also bs player showed me two movies at a ridiculous frame rate of 1800+ fps hence why it could not use the svp plugin on it to double the frame rate...
of course that mp classic showed it as 24 fps and was capable of using the svp on it.
could be a video analasys glitch by mx player.
and yet video is jittery on the hox. on aosp too.
the overall video is smooth but with little stutters.

HTC 10 Manual Video MOD?

Hi i loved LG G4 and that it had LG V10 camera ported to it.
Now i understand that different brand and all but is there a way to port LG V10 camera to HTC phone?
Im mainly looking at manual exposure in video mode because even after all these years HTC video recording is terrible because of framerate.
Whenever i record video in lowish light i get like 20 fps video looks terrible and laggy even tho sensor on this phone is big and can do stable 30fps in low light with a little higher iso because i also have LG V10 with smaller sensor and higher resolution which means much smaller pixel and in manual mode in same scene i put video exposure time at 1/30th or even 1/60th with iso at 600 and i get little noise while being buttery smooth.
Now this has been issue with HTC from OG days and is there a mod or port that i dont know about that can let me control exposure in video mode and i dont mind separate app for that since im using gcam for photos and get some of the best pictures ive ever seen on smartphone,even compared to latest smartphones its in top 3 definitely.
Now back to video,ive seen snapdragon camera and other,none of them does anything to video framerate.
Is there a way to set lowest exposure to 1/30th so that phone does not drop framerate do raise exposure and lower iso.
I personally dont mind grainy video in lower light but man recording campfire i dont need nightvision but for some reason phone tries so hard that it blows highlights and gets laggy as hell.
Some config mods,api mods,apk mods anything to adress this issue,i would be alfa tester for some mods if anyone has time to tinker with it,im more of hardware guy,repairing phones and modding cooling,thermal paste and pads mod,etc.
Software? Not my kind of skill.
So if someone else has some advice or existing mod i havent seen yet let me know i would gladly try it.
Sorry for typos or mistakes typing this on a phone without auto correction
Cheers and thanks in advance

xxBeatsByDrDrexx said:
Hi i loved LG G4 and that it had LG V10 camera ported to it.
Now i understand that different brand and all but is there a way to port LG V10 camera to HTC phone?
Im mainly looking at manual exposure in video mode because even after all these years HTC video recording is terrible because of framerate.
Whenever i record video in lowish light i get like 20 fps video looks terrible and laggy even tho sensor on this phone is big and can do stable 30fps in low light with a little higher iso because i also have LG V10 with smaller sensor and higher resolution which means much smaller pixel and in manual mode in same scene i put video exposure time at 1/30th or even 1/60th with iso at 600 and i get little noise while being buttery smooth.
Now this has been issue with HTC from OG days and is there a mod or port that i dont know about that can let me control exposure in video mode and i dont mind separate app for that since im using gcam for photos and get some of the best pictures ive ever seen on smartphone,even compared to latest smartphones its in top 3 definitely.
Now back to video,ive seen snapdragon camera and other,none of them does anything to video framerate.
Is there a way to set lowest exposure to 1/30th so that phone does not drop framerate do raise exposure and lower iso.
I personally dont mind grainy video in lower light but man recording campfire i dont need nightvision but for some reason phone tries so hard that it blows highlights and gets laggy as hell.
Some config mods,api mods,apk mods anything to adress this issue,i would be alfa tester for some mods if anyone has time to tinker with it,im more of hardware guy,repairing phones and modding cooling,thermal paste and pads mod,etc.
Software? Not my kind of skill.
So if someone else has some advice or existing mod i havent seen yet let me know i would gladly try it.
Sorry for typos or mistakes typing this on a phone without auto correction
Cheers and thanks in advance
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Highly doubt anyone is willing to put in the work to port an LG camera app at this stage of the 10 (2015 flagship) but I cannot speak for others.
I also don't really use my camera outside normal shots so I don't have good experience with vid framerate, etc.
I will suggest that you try out the Google camera ports if you haven't already.

I have tried gcam for video but its terrible compared to stock,in gcam video recording i get stuttering an what not.
I know old phone custom development is over.
Also how it that there is no some universal camera that can use those core features available on other phones.
Unless LG uses some sort of asic for camera but i doubt it since LG V10 camera can be ported on other LG phones like G4.

xxBeatsByDrDrexx said:
I have tried gcam for video but its terrible compared to stock,in gcam video recording i get stuttering an what not.
I know old phone custom development is over.
Also how it that there is no some universal camera that can use those core features available on other phones.
Unless LG uses some sort of asic for camera but i doubt it since LG V10 camera can be ported on other LG phones like G4.
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Sorry wish could help more.
Gcam is the best ull see for non-sense ROMs.
There's many ports and settings you've played with that? Like changing from nexus to pixel.

andybones said:
Sorry wish could help more.
Gcam is the best ull see for non-sense ROMs.
There's many ports and settings you've played with that? Like changing from nexus to pixel.
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I have tried other mods and setting but in any case when i pan camera its stuttery on gcam and didnt try gcam in low light tho.
Only thing i need basically is ti limit minimum fps to 30 because it drops to 20 or so in low light and panning from lets say bright window to darker room suddenly video looks blurry and smeared because of shutter speed.
Im on custom rom Leedroid using Elementalx kernel not overcloked or underclocked.
Any ideas what to try,its not professional camera i know and i dont shoot movies with infact i dont shoot maybe 2 times a week short video and i eork ina gaming club where light is dimm and sometimes some promo video needs to be recorded for social media and it looks terrible and overexposed even tho ist dark cause camera is launching shutter speed into the sky to make up for low light.
I used professional camera in full manual mode to record conferences and things like that and shutter speed half of frame time like 30 fps max exposure 1/30th but you put it to 1/60th to make video look smooth as,and only change ISO and aperture to change how bright shot is.
In any case any kernel api config profilesxml file to change that because i have LG V10 and with that things manual camera i can do wonders for video cause at the end of the day best camera is the one that you have with you all the time,amarite?
Thanks for the answer tho u will try some other ports and test just in case i missed something.
I only used apk ports,do i need flashable zip for better and more stable ports?
Any android camera experts out there feel free to add some smart teach heavy solutions.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers

Looking now at gcam video it is less smeary but when recording starts it hicups every second or so.
Any setting to change in dev settings of camera?
And sorry for typos in ally posts i type on the go without autocorrect,what can i say i live my life dangerously

xxBeatsByDrDrexx said:
Looking now at gcam video it is less smeary but when recording starts it hicups every second or so.
Any setting to change in dev settings of camera?
And sorry for typos in ally posts i type on the go without autocorrect,what can i say i live my life dangerously
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Not the guy to ask.
Maybe one of these threads after a quick search.
Could be better threads, but thb I've probably used this camera like 30 times max since May/2015 lol so safe to say I don't take many pictures or vie.
Hope this helps.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/google-camera-mods

How to set 25fps?

So just got the phone a couple days ago... And im trying to figure out why im stuck in NTSC frame rates.
Im from the UK so obviously i prefer the look of 25FPS and when i do content I work in 25 fps.
It really seems strange that the cameras are arbitrarily locked to US frame rates.
Is there anyway to get 25fps?

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It really seems strange that the cameras are arbitrarily locked to US frame rates.
Is there anyway to get 25fps?
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Yes can be annoying. Cannot change it in the stock camera APP AFAIK. But other apps like Open Camera for example will allow you to set the FPS to 25fps.
It's likely just not as important as it once was... Unless you are specifically playing back on a older interlaced television set, than the chances are that item you are watching the video back on will support it regardless..
i.e Most phone, laptop and PC screens are running at 60hz, and most TV's will handle 24/25/30 fps intervals without issues these days.
Most people are uploading to youtube or online where by 30/60fps make more sense. 25fps is a leftover from the interlaced broadcast TV days. So the only difference it would make is if you shoot at 30fps and then need to broadcast it at 25fps, in which case you would have 3:2 pulldown.
The standard camera app does allow flicker/banding to be set to 50hz/60hz/Auto thus not to have strobing light issues.
But is there a specific reason you want to shoot 25fps and not 24/30/60?

Having worked in video production for much of my working life, I cant say i fully agree. While sure 30fps is common thats only because most content on youtube is from the americas where 30fps was common
It isnt just a hang on from the interlaced days either. A lot of american shows were actually shot on film at 24 and 25fps and then upsampled to 29.97 fps (or there abouts) 24 and 25fps have a more filmic and natural flow than 30/60.
Even today nearly all dramas and filmic shows in america are filmed at 24 and 25fps. With only soaps and news hanging onto 30fps.
Ive also tried open camera, even though the "option" is there, when i watch the footage it comes back at 30fps.
So its like its baked into the hardware encoder. Its really stupid though. Its not like its a limitation of hardware, not being capable of producing that frame rate because its too complex... Its as if just a config option or api is missing.

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While sure 30fps is common thats only because most content on youtube is from the americas where 30fps was common
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I'm from Australia where we also use PAL25FPS, because of 50hz electricity same as you in the UK, but any PC screen or monitor or phone for the last however many decades default is 60hz. Which is why 30/60/120fps makes more sense all around the world.
If YouTube was a British TV program being broadcast on TV, than 25fps would make more sense. But because it's being viewed on monitors, phones, laptops, tablets etc, than 30fps ensures no extra/interpolated/missed frames etc.
Even today nearly all dramas and filmic shows in america are filmed at 24 and 25fps. With only soaps and news hanging onto 30fps.
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Motion pictures have always been shot at 24fps, but TV in PAL countries has indeed been shot at 25fps, while US (NTSC) TV shows are shot @ 30fps.
I've also tried open camera, even though the "option" is there, when I watch the footage it comes back at 30fps.
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Ahh, I didn't actually test it, I just remember the setting... GCAM ports will definitely let you shoot [email protected] (as well as 30/60).
So its like its baked into the hardware encoder. Its really stupid though. Its not like its a limitation of hardware, not being capable of producing that frame rate because its too complex... Its as if just a config option or api is missing.
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I agree the option would be good. But at the same time it's likely not as important as it once was. Many years ago I required 25fps for broadcast TV, but these days it's simply not required. I cannot really see a use case where it matters anymore.
It really is a leftover from interlaced fields, and now days screens are capable of progressive scan.
If you are intending on shooting for broadcast TV with this phone (which seems odd) you no doubt would be editing in post, and thus would convert the 24/30/60fps footage to match your 25fps timeline in post, which would automatically do a 3:2 pulldown or pullup to convert the frames anyway.
If they did offer 25fps, there would be lots of complaints from people wondering why their footage is stuttering and jumping, when played back on their phone, PC, Chromecast, Youtube etc... Which I think is why they don't like to offer it.

Sadly even the best 3:2 pulldown can cause ghosting and artifacts, but I also plan to do some VFX as well, so for things like tracking thats a real killer...
Also im sorry youre wrong many shows in america (assuming they expect to sell internationally) always shoot at 25. Startrek for instance was shot at 25fps on 35mm.
And also when rendering out FX sequences, that extra 5 frames per second really add up.
Id rather keep to 25 for the aesthetics, and the ease of workflow.
I wonder if the framerate is something baked into the firmware of the camera hardware.