Franco or ElementalX Kernel? - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

I've heard a lot of good things about both, I'm just wondering which one is the more "popular" one to say. I've been using ElementalX for a month now, and it works pretty good overclocked to 1.8Ghz.
I don't really use touchwake that much, so it's not a deal breaker. Since I hear a lot about Franco, what's so good about it?
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I suggest Franco or faux123 kernel, I use faux123 at the moment and it works perfectly
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datallboy said:
I've heard a lot of good things about both, I'm just wondering which one is the more "popular" one to say. I've been using ElementalX for a month now, and it works pretty good overclocked to 1.8Ghz.
I don't really use touchwake that much, so it's not a deal breaker. Since I hear a lot about Franco, what's so good about it?
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They are both great kernels made by respected devs. I use ElementalX but I suggest to give them each a try and see for yourself.
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I tried Franco and thought it was slower than ElementalX. Have it over clocked slightly more at 1.8Ghz, but I don't think it makes the difference. ElementalX has made me happy, so I'll keep it.
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At the moment ElementalX is the best kernel and I can recommend using it because of it's great stability, performance and variety of customisations.

Does anyone know if there are known issues that are causing bootloops? I have a 2013 N7 running on CM 10.2 and I flashed both Glitch and ElementalX kernels and both gave me bootloops
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jaimenavidad said:
Does anyone know if there are known issues that are causing bootloops? I have a 2013 N7 running on CM 10.2 and I flashed both Glitch and ElementalX kernels and both gave me bootloops
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You want to make sure you are using the proper kernel. The most recent ones are for 4.4.2 but you're running 4.3 JB. Other than that, make sure your ROM is AOSP based and it should work. This is not withstanding some CM 11 builds.

LinearEquation said:
You want to make sure you are using the proper kernel. The most recent ones are for 4.4.2 but you're running 4.3 JB. Other than that, make sure your ROM is AOSP based and it should work. This is not withstanding some CM 11 builds.
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Thanks for the answer. I also tried Franco kernel and I was able to get the lock screen but all the colors seemed to be negative. Perhaps is a GPU issue. I get a totally cyan screen when the CM Boot animation appears. Also with Franco kernel it said: com.phone.android has stopped, I wasn't able to get out of the lock screen. Ill try with another ROM like AOKP, Carbon, Omni or PA
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Are both of these kernels compactor with CM11.
I used to use Franco kernel exclusively on my N4, but the CM team changed something (related to colour?) that made it incompatible.
Also, do they both support usb-otg so I can mount my USB stick?
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recommended rom and kernel

hello everyone tomorrow ill be leaving my htc desire as my main phone and getting a galaxy nexus, after i unlock the boot loader and root the phone, and messed around with it, i will most likely flash a custom rom and kernel, the only thing is im not sure which rom to use untill cm9, any recommendations?
thanks
I'm using gummy and love it. Stable, fast, good battery life, lots of options for customizing. Can't say enough good things about it. Let us know what u go with.
I'm using AOKP with Franco's kernel. Great customization, speed, and stability on both fronts.
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I was running CM9 kang until today with trinity kernel from morfic. Batter life was great but I couldn't help myself I had to try the 4.0.4 build. so far so far good but I'm missing some of the customization options from cm9.
I highly HIGHLY recommend using Codename Android. The kernel isn't so much important on this phone as it is with other ones. Codename android comes with its own custom kernel and it works great. Its a great ROM.
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yondercomesthetrain said:
I highly HIGHLY recommend using Codename Android. The kernel isn't so much important on this phone as it is with other ones. Codename android comes with its own custom kernel and it works great. Its a great ROM.
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+1 I agree with you
AOKP M3 + Franco Kernel. There's a reason that this is the most common setup.
Tree of Knowledge said:
I'm using AOKP with Franco's kernel. Great customization, speed, and stability on both fronts.
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This. Throw in the 4.0.4 radios, and you've got a great combination IMHO.
yondercomesthetrain said:
I highly HIGHLY recommend using Codename Android. The kernel isn't so much important on this phone as it is with other ones. Codename android comes with its own custom kernel and it works great. Its a great ROM.
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Kernel not important on the GN? I highly disagree with you. The benefits from using a alternative kernel is endless especially when looking at Franco Kernel.
AOKP + Franco for me.

Best battery 4.2.1 rom kernal combination

First of all.. A very happy New Year to all
Ok.. There are many roms on xda and kernals too
If someone has figured it out.. could anyone tell me which rom-kernel combination is the best for battery (and settings to if needed)
Thanks in advance
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Stock
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hetunandu said:
First of all.. A very happy New Year to all
Ok.. There are many roms on xda and kernals too
If someone has figured it out.. could anyone tell me which rom-kernel combination is the best for battery (and settings to if needed)
Thanks in advance
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There is no such thing as best. My phone and your phone are not identical, even though they may have very been from the same production lot. Nor are the individual circumstances under which two given people use their phones identical. Something that performs extremely well on one phone may very well boot loop on another.
Do some research by reading the applicable dev forum, and then try some different combinations for yourself to see if they work for you under your unique set of circumstances.
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I am using Cataclysm ROM with the inbuilt kernel that comes with it and I am completely happy with the battery life.
I could get 2 days out of my device on general usage.
You could try that.
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Stock
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I REALLY doubt you will get the BEST battery performance out of stock.
KERNEL.
there is no best combo, there is only the best combo for you and your device. for me its rasbean jelly rom with trinity kernel. but whats best for me and my device might not be right for you and your device.
I've been using cataclysm with Franco kernel for a while and have been very satisfied.
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Agreed, there is no best. I've had good luck with muzzy's aosp room and Trinity kernels. But you might not like that combo. I'm not interested in gaming for instance, so my needs might be different than yours. Try different combos and you'll discover your own best.
Ok.. got it.. thanks everyone
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stock rom is the best in my opinion
I think Xylon (014) with the default lean kernel gives good battery life. Tried the ROM with Franco 358 but i went back to lean.
Also, i make site that my most of my apps aren't running in the background and using up the battery... That's what the FAQs from Franco's OP in his thread mentions.
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I get over 5 hours screen on time and a flawless smooth ROM with heavy usage with both data and WiFi on with xylon stable and ak purity kernel running Wheatley gov. I just addressed this on the xylon thread. Works well for me and some others.. Have a look its worth the flash to see.
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Best I have found is stock.
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Check my sig. I can't use any rom other than paranoid. I've tried many different kernels, but i keep going back to Franco.
Whatever combo I use, no more than 2hrs of screen time and 16hrs of standby.
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I had great luck with Xylon (latest) with Tiny (latest)
Just flashed Evolution 3.0 and Lean Kernel (latest) and after 2 days I am satisfied.
Good Luck.
Xlon + faux123
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For me it's I've been on Muzzy's French Vanilla on stock kernal. However, I've read good things about tiny's kernal too but I haven't tried it myself.
As a noob in the android community, and after trying different roms, i like rasbean the most for different reasons, but on choosing a kernel, for example trinity, there are a lot of options. What's the difference? I really not get it :silly:
for example, TNP1536-512-JB-4.1.2-STABLE67
So this one is max 1536Mhz CPU and max 512 GPU i read on derkernel site
So there's a different setting for graphics (gpu)? I always tought CPU was working between 1536-512 Mhz?
And euh, when i have trinity's app, i can change the settings of this kernel to get this one? (TNP1344-384-JB-4.1.2-STABLE67)
So this is the same kernel but with different settings?
Please make me a little bit smarter

[DER KERNEL] Trinity Ten [4.3 / 4.4]

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Files, app:
www . Der Kernel . com
Kernel Source: https://bitbucket.org/morfic/trinity_ten
http://goo.gl/tUkg9A Trinity 10 KitKat 4.4.3 kernel Build 1
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Featuring:
Build optimizations
Performance through research
Static UV
GPU OC to 600+ MHz
Removed wasteful debugging
VM, Governor tweaks
row, sio added
fsync control
2000MHz (Use an app that protects the sysfs files to not have OS meddle with freqs)
Bullshít Free (Not pushing buzzwords to drop them later like others)
Morfic! Awesome to see you here . loved your nexus s kernels !
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great morfic! looking forward to rock the trinity kernels on my n10. i've been using your kernels since the nexus s days so welcome here :good:
lol. I have a purchased version of TKT. Just removed it yesterday from my Nexus 10. Today, I see there is support for Nexus 10 and have to install it again.
Best regards,
Finally, trinity for my nexus 10!
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Oh wow this is so awesome
We've been seeing a lot of development for nexus 10 this past week and now trinity is here.
Keep the development coming! Looking forward to this
King of Rapture™ said:
lol. I have a purchased version of TKT. Just removed it yesterday from my Nexus 10. Today, I see there is support for Nexus 10 and have to install it again.
Best regards,
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FYI, Trickster also now works on the Nexus 10. Not sure if the Play Store has been updated yet for it but the latest Manta beta version supports everything that Trickster normally does
Looking forward to doing some testing with this kernel as well.
i am using LIQUIDSMOOTH rom and i flash this kernel and i get stock at boot
rubene66 said:
i am using LIQUIDSMOOTH rom and i flash this kernel and i get stock at boot
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Not for cm
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Bataga said:
Not for cm
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Isn't liquid aosp based?
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jarjar124 said:
Isn't liquid aosp based?
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It contains some CM tweaks if you read the Liquid ROM OP. Those CM tweaks are probably what's causing the bootloop. I'm assuming the ROM has to be pure AOSP based.
Pure Aosp based? That's a bit difficult. I'm also on Liquid smooth.
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Lim Wee Huat said:
Pure Aosp based? That's a bit difficult. I'm also on Liquid smooth.
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This kernel works with MMuzzyROM and PA. I'm sure morfic (morfique?) will update it eventually to work on CM.
404 ERROR said:
This kernel works with MMuzzyROM and PA. I'm sure morfic (morfique?) will update it eventually to work on CM.
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Should work on aokp too, right?
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dreitzell78 said:
Should work on aokp too, right?
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I'm not a dev nor do I have any dev knowledge, so I don't know. It's not the fact that it has "CM" parts in it that doesn't make it work, but CM has a tweak in there that makes this kernel bootloop. If AOKP also has the tweak, then it's going to bootloop as well.
Just make a nandroid and try it.
Hey Morfic do you think we'll see a gamma and display calibration tool in the near future?
Fidelator said:
Hey Morfic do you think we'll see a gamma and display calibration tool in the near future?
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ktoonz stated that samsung took something out for this so it will be very likely to do that.
jarjar124 said:
ktoonz stated that samsung took something out for this so it will be very likely to do that.
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Someone found the drivers with mDNIe support for our screen (or at least they were named the same way as ours) on a Samsung's site.
Fidelator said:
Someone found the drivers with mDNIe support for our screen (or at least they were named the same way as ours) on a Samsung's site.
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who is that someone and which is that samsung site?
each time i talk to supercurio about mDNIe, he ends up commenting how it's not "real mDNIe", if it was it would be nice (not implying i talked to him about N10)

What Rom/Kernel/Mods are everyone running?

Love this tablet. Just curious what Rom/kernel/mods people are rocking.
Please share your experience, thank you !
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Stock rom with Elemantalx
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CM currently, looking around at other roms.
Elementalx (lovin the S2W/S)
Rom Deb
I´m running Carbon-Rom atm as its the only featured Rom for the Nexus 7 deb (LTE Version).
As soon as PACman Rom will be fully working, i will use it (or paranoidandroid).
I was pretty happy with stock rom and kernel rooted, but now flashed Carbon and a custom rom to test. Just a few tweaks I need like expanded desktop mode, lowering the size of the nav bar, themes etc and Carbon offer me all this so happy with my set up for the time being.
ZTE v8403 ram 256m up rom 4.0.4
LOSS BASEBAND ,IMEI. AND NETWORK.help me,tks very much
Dark Jelly is an awesome cm10.2 based ROM. The most options I have seen in any Aroma installer setup. Running it since the day it came out with no issues.
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I'm currently on PAC Rom nightly 09-01. I've previously tried PA and Carbon Rom. All are awesome. Can't decide which one is the best
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PA 3.98 and (005)FauxES
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If someone helps you, PLEASE use the THANKS button.
Just flashed PA with elementalx kernel.. What a beast! So far flawless and I love the sweep2wake and double tap to wake features
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Vanir 4.3. I was on PA but wanted some more customization. I have found it
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onicas said:
Vanir 4.3. I was on PA but wanted some more customization. I have found it
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Nice I'll have to flash yet and see what else it offers!
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Carbon, on faux-mm kernel. OC'd CPU and GPU.
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Mindrocket said:
Dark Jelly is an awesome cm10.2 based ROM. The most options I have seen in any Aroma installer setup. Running it since the day it came out with no issues.
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I second this. I have also been running this since it first became available, and I am very thrilled with it. Runs well, very fast and completely stable.
onicas said:
Vanir 4.3. I was on PA but wanted some more customization. I have found it
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I'm also using Vanir with ElementalX. I love that Vanir has both TabletUI and Extended Desktop options. Any other ROMs with these I should try?
CleanROM with ElementalX and a slight CPU overclock.
Slim Beta 4 and Bulletproof
Nova Launcher
Rocks! :good:
Now on stock 4.3, I received N7 just yesterday still unroot.
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Stock rom whit elementalX 1.2
Cpu oc to 1.89Ghz and gpu to 487Mhz Fast and stable. No Uv.
Pacman Rom with faux mainline kernel oc @1.7ghz. Also using faux sound. Excellent combo
Owner/Operator Nexus 7 2013
We were born in a time where if something was broken we would fix it and not just throw it away

which ROM and Kernel to pick?

Just rooted my nexus yesterday, and I was wondering which ROM and Kernel should a newbie use?
Thanks guys for the help.
CleanRom and ElementalX is what I'm using.
Buckeye10101 said:
Just rooted my nexus yesterday, and I was wondering which ROM and Kernel should a newbie use?
Thanks guys for the help.
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You should really ask this in Q&A section....
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stock rom + elementalX or franco kernel
just test them out, to each his own
CM + Glitch
I'm running CM11 nightly 20131221 with latest Glitch kernel, best stability, performance and battery for my N7
Cleanrom (latest version) and ElementalX kernel
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I'm using CM11 Nightly with the CM kernel, and I got 34 hours of normal use before the battery died. Take that for what its worth
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SwoRNLeaDejZ said:
I'm using CM11 Nightly with the CM kernel, and I got 34 hours of normal use before the battery died. Take that for what its worth
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34 hours! Holy Cow Man!
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Stock ROM + elementalx kernel for me, with some optimizations here and there
Currently (I use multirom hack) I am on dirty unicorns with elemental x kernal
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KangaKat and Franco kernel. Worry free since this machine came out. Avoid CM, IMHO.
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SinLessRom with ElementalX kernal & a few mods.
PA4 beta with Franco r10 and ART enabled. Butter.
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oadam11 said:
Currently (I use multirom hack) I am on dirty unicorns with elemental x kernal
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Hay im running Dirty Unicorn(4.4.2) and the latest elementalX kernal and it does charge my nexus 7 with the OTG cable and sends power to my DAC, but the sound is still playing through the speakers of my Nexus.
the DAC im using is the Behringer UCA-222 it works fine with CM10.2, but no OTG charging.
Could someone please help me out?
Thanks
There's a reason why these threads are frowned upon, and this is a prime example. To the OP, there are no real roms that are/are not noob friendly. Some just have extra optimizations...it's up to you to utilize them all. As starters, get comfortable with the stock rom, then try the others. Then you can truly determine which rom is best for you AND for your device (since each device may respond differently).
SwoRNLeaDejZ said:
I'm using CM11 Nightly with the CM kernel, and I got 34 hours of normal use before the battery died. Take that for what its worth
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Wow. Do you remember what your screen on time was?
Paranoid Android and Glitch kernel work flawlessly for me.
I like slimkat and glitch. I've had this setup since day 1 and still running this setup.
-Recovering Flashoholic
DEVICE #1:
Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini GT-I8190L
Carbon ROM
DEVICE #2:
NEXUS 7 (2013) 32GB WIFI
SlimKat w/ ElementalX
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Gotta update my sig heh lazy
DEVICE #1:
Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini GT-I8190L
Carbon ROM
DEVICE #2:
NEXUS 7 (2013) 32GB WIFI
SlimKat w/ ElementalX
I use slimkat stable 5 and the included kernel. I get sot from 8 hours
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Carbon and franco is best for me. Theme manager without resorting to caf
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