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Logical question

If Nexus its a developer phone, with access to almost everything, unlockable bootloader etc etc... Why they just doesn't add a full working recovery that allows to flash any aosp rom with no need of cwm and or rooting?
Seems a interesting question
Also we should have root access out of the box in the terms of "developer phone"
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msedek said:
If Nexus its a developer phone, with access to almost everything, unlockable bootloader etc etc... Why they just doesn't add a full working recovery that allows to flash any aosp rom with no need of cwm and or rooting?
Seems a interesting question
Also we should have root access out of the box in the terms of "developer phone"
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There is a difference in "flagship" phone and developer phone. I have never seen anyone offical say this is a developer phone.
It is up to each man/woman to root and flash whatever they want, but that dont mean everything have to be that way out of the box.
Swyped on my CM9 Galaxy Nexus

I mean it literally takes five minutes to unlock and root so I don't see what the problem is, even if you might be right.
And they probably don't come like that for security purposes. Then everyone with a Galaxy Nexus could be subject to malware apps from the market that sieze control through root permissions. Considering 97% of people don't know what root is, this would be a problem considering the nexus was a "flagship".
Also, we have people on XDA that can't figure **** out, I don't expect the average consumer to want/care to either.

If you give the majority of the public access to a full blown recovery like CWM out of the box, you're asking for trouble IMO. As it is now, its relatively safe for the general public to poke about in without causing too much permanent damage.
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yeah I guess you all are right.... In that way
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4th time I had to factory restore. This is unbelievable.

Had my N72013 for 2 weeks now, and it boot loop'd four times on me twice in one day.
This can't be only happening to me.
I ordered from Google (big mistake), their rep said they can send me a new model but I would have to pay for it (dock the amount) first then once I receive it, send in my current model then wait to get my $$$ back.
Is this an issue with 4.3 or the device. I really don't want to return it if this problem could be patched away with an update...
Forgot to mention, I'm unlocked and rooted. 32gigs. No dead pixels, minor light bleed that doesn't bother me at all.
What would you do?
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If its boot looping that's not normal obviously you know that so I would exchange it. Keep swapping until you get a good one.
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Rican Bx Bomba said:
Had my N72013 for 2 weeks now, and it boot loop'd four times on me twice in one day.
This can't be only happening to me.
I ordered from Google (big mistake), their rep said they can send me a new model but I would have to pay for it (dock the amount) first then once I receive it, send in my current model then wait to get my $$$ back.
Is this an issue with 4.3 or the device. I really don't want to return it if this problem could be patched away with an update...
Forgot to mention, I'm unlocked and rooted. 32gigs. No dead pixels, minor light bleed that doesn't bother me at all.
What would you do?
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wha?? I would return immediately.

Yea I don't know why its boot looping either. Maybe your factory images are corrupt and thus you keep restoring a bad image. Perhaps you have a bad sector in your memory.
You could test it by flashing a non-stock rom, such as CM10.2 which also uses a CM kernel.
Use it for a few days and See if the problem goes away or stays.
Either way, reflash stock using the Google Nexus 7 images. If the problem stays, then take it back. If it fixes it, then keep it.
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player911 said:
Yea I don't know why its boot looping either. Maybe your factory images are corrupt and thus you keep restoring a bad image. Perhaps you have a bad sector in your memory.
You could test it by flashing a non-stock rom, such as CM10.2 which also uses a CM kernel.
Use it for a few days and See if the problem goes away or stays.
Either way, reflash stock using the Google Nexus 7 images. If the problem stays, then take it back. If it fixes it, then keep it.
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Will try that. Thanks!
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player911 said:
Yea I don't know why its boot looping either. Maybe your factory images are corrupt and thus you keep restoring a bad image. Perhaps you have a bad sector in your memory.
You could test it by flashing a non-stock rom, such as CM10.2 which also uses a CM kernel.
Use it for a few days and See if the problem goes away or stays.
Either way, reflash stock using the Google Nexus 7 images. If the problem stays, then take it back. If it fixes it, then keep it.
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Thought I'll give you an update.. Installed CM10.2 for a few days, as you said.. No issues what so ever. Decided to try my luck with CoolRom and it bootlooped the moment I rebooted.
Decided on doing a complete wipe of the device and flashing a factory rom ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381582 ).
Don't want to give up hope yet.

Rican Bx Bomba said:
Had my N72013 for 2 weeks now, and it boot loop'd four times on me twice in one day.
This can't be only happening to me.
I ordered from Google (big mistake), their rep said they can send me a new model but I would have to pay for it (dock the amount) first then once I receive it, send in my current model then wait to get my $$$ back.
Is this an issue with 4.3 or the device. I really don't want to return it if this problem could be patched away with an update...
Forgot to mention, I'm unlocked and rooted. 32gigs. No dead pixels, minor light bleed that doesn't bother me at all.
What would you do?
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Not sure why you would need to root this device. Its straight android and runs great without root or custom ROM.
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smurphdogg said:
Not sure why you would need to root this device. Its straight android and runs great without root or custom ROM.
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Rooted it for some apps that required root access.

smurphdogg said:
Not sure why you would need to root this device. Its straight android and runs great without root or custom ROM.
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There are tons of apps that require root access and are mandatory for many people including me.

I wouldn't bother to unlock and root. The N7 is flawless and fast out of the box.
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Again, root access is required for most decent backup programs and cloud data syncing apps. The issue doesn't require a debate about whether you need root or not. Yes the N7 is wicked fast and if you only use it as a bathroom reader for Facebook and light use, then that's cool. I like OTG support for my thumb drives when I'm in the field working.
Glad CM is working for you. That at least shows it isn't a hardware problem. I'd reflash stock images and see where that leaves you. Worse case you use CM (oh my!) until we see a patch.
It sounds like it just has a corrupted stock image. Kernels typically cause the reboots but a bad app or system file can too.
If you flash stock back and you still have issues, try just flashing a modified stock kernel (stock rom/custom stock kernel). CM has its own kernel which might be why it was working better.
You also should do a complete wipe between stock and CM and AOSP and vice versa. It typically bootloops if you dirty flash one type of rom over another. Stock and AOSP are pretty much the same thing but some custom ROMs like CM have different structures that hose you.
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player911 said:
It sounds like it just has a corrupted stock image. Kernels typically cause the reboots but a bad app or system file can too.
If you flash stock back and you still have issues, try just flashing a modified stock kernel (stock rom/custom stock kernel). CM has its own kernel which might be why it was working better.
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I flashed a stock image unroot, relocked. The process went without a hitch. Then I unlocked and rooted, flashed clean ROM, tried to see if I would get it to bootloop and it hasn't! Must've been a corrupt image.
I just want to thank you again, your advice saved me a lot of time and hassle with Google.
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Rican Bx Bomba said:
I flashed a stock image unroot, relocked. The process went without a hitch. Then I unlocked and rooted, flashed clean ROM, tried to see if I would get it to bootloop and it hasn't! Must've been a corrupt image.
I just want to thank you again, your advice saved me a lot of time and hassle with Google.
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I do not understand the hassle with Google.
I told them yesterday to get a new device, as wireless charging does not work. I talked max 10 minutes on the phone and I received an email 2 minutes after saying that I'll get a new device.
Yes, they will charge you "temporarily" for this, but you do not have to pay anything.
Anyway, it's me, I found it easy with Google.

Mine bootlooped today. Stock. No root or anything. I was forced to do a factory reset from recovery. Very troubling that this seems to be happening to a few people. There's a couple of threads over on android central of people having the same problem.
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I will admit this device is great without root but I prefer custom ROMs and titanium backup
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Just sat here rebooting the n7 a few time and it happened. Held power and got it to re start the boot process and it loaded. As soon as I unlocked it I got an android process media force close
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Andro_pty said:
I do not understand the hassle with Google.
I told them yesterday to get a new device, as wireless charging does not work. I talked max 10 minutes on the phone and I received an email 2 minutes after saying that I'll get a new device.
Yes, they will charge you "temporarily" for this, but you do not have to pay anything.
Anyway, it's me, I found it easy with Google.
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I rather not do the whole process of sending, receiving, ect. Call me lazy or whatever. Either way, it seems like my problem is solved, I'm once again happy.
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Rican Bx Bomba said:
I flashed a stock image unroot, relocked. The process went without a hitch. Then I unlocked and rooted, flashed clean ROM, tried to see if I would get it to bootloop and it hasn't! Must've been a corrupt image.
I just want to thank you again, your advice saved me a lot of time and hassle with Google.
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Super glad its worked. It worked for me. It worked for another guy. And worked for you. I think there is a bad rom image flashed on all of these that are causing lots of problems. The only fix is to clean slate and reflash the stock image, or move to custom ROMs.
Probably need to get someone to write a little app that just automates flashing the stock image again just for simplicity.
I'll probably create a new thread covering this.
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The stock images and the install script .bat file is simple enough.
Especially if you're rooted already. Since you already have the drivers installed on your computer.
Toolkits need to die a slow painful death.

You need root access a pen drive using an OTG cable, install app like titanium backup etc. Rooting doesn't mean custom rom or kernel
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S4 4.3 update coming in october

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Road...xy-S4-Galaxy-S-III-and-GALAXY-Note-II_id47806
So how likely are we to get this update quickly since T-Mobile seems to have forgotten about our updates so far. Really want apps2sd already with Wi-Fi calling
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TheAtheistOtaku said:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Road...xy-S4-Galaxy-S-III-and-GALAXY-Note-II_id47806
So how likely are we to get this update quickly since T-Mobile seems to have forgotten about our updates so far. Really want apps2sd already with WiJane-Fi calling
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Sorry bro but I wouldn't hold my breath for any tmobile update. They always have some lame excuse like we're testing for months and months...good news is you can have 4.3 and apps to sd NOW if you root and install a custom rom. Look in the roms change log and it will tell you if its 4.3 and all other features it has. i have apps to sd now with my current rom. So if you don't want to wait for God knows how long you can get these things you want now by rooting. Also you can change back to stock and unroot if you like so its not a permanent thing. There are some wonderful how to root threads in tmobile android development section. Look in the forum for tmobile Samsung galaxy and find the development section where the roms are kept and you should find a how to guide.read read read and when your comfortable with the procedure proceed to root your device. You won't regret it for a second. Best wishes. Otherwise you can wait on tmobile which is likely just going to frusterate you. Ive been with tmobile ten years and my only complaint is their update process.its always one excuse after another why we're not getting our update. So you do have options. You can root and run these things now or wait on tmobile. Its up to you. Best wishes. If your already rooted and just wondering when it will come out my guess is after a newer device is announced. Tmobile is awful when it comes to updates!

Surprisingly the moto x on Tmobile was the first to get the camera fix update. But I guess it's more a patch than an update.
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realsis said:
Sorry bro but I wouldn't hold my breath for any tmobile update. They always have some lame excuse like we're testing for months and months...good news is you can have 4.3 and apps to sd NOW if you root and install a custom rom. Look in the roms change log and it will tell you if its 4.3 and all other features it has. i have apps to sd now with my current rom. So if you don't want to wait for God knows how long you can get these things you want now by rooting. Also you can change back to stock and unroot if you like so its not a permanent thing. There are some wonderful how to root threads in tmobile android development section. Look in the forum for tmobile Samsung galaxy and find the development section where the roms are kept and you should find a how to guide.read read read and when your comfortable with the procedure proceed to root your device. You won't regret it for a second. Best wishes. Otherwise you can wait on tmobile which is likely just going to frusterate you. Ive been with tmobile ten years and my only complaint is their update process.its always one excuse after another why we're not getting our update. So you do have options. You can root and run these things now or wait on tmobile. Its up to you. Best wishes. If your already rooted and just wondering when it will come out my guess is after a newer device is announced. Tmobile is awful when it comes to updates!
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What ticks me off is that this slow update crap is one of the reasons I left Verizon, only to find out it's an issue with t mobile.
Right now I am seriously considering the Nexus 5. For now, thank God I am rooted.

Yes I understand. I went through this with my htc and it makes me furious. It is ALWAYS the same excuse. We're testing and it might take awhile. Its total bs. I honestly think its a marketing strategy of sorts to hold the update as long as possible until the latest and greatest comes out. Then we no longer even care about the update and want to move on..I just don't know why they are this way. I've been with tmobile ten years and I've seen this over and over. Always the same excuse.its really my only complaint about the company. They just won't give us our updates ever so small or large. Until we don't care anymore because we're moving on to something else anyway. Its ridicoulas. So many complain but it seems they turn a deaf ear to our pleas.i was hoping this device would be different and they would send out the update in a timely manner. But its looking like that's not the case. Very frustrating. ..

If you really want bleeding edge updates, check out what happened to the 2013 Nexus 7 and its updates: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380866
It's bad enough when a tablet reboots randomly; I can't imagine a primary communication device like a smartphone doing the same... you know, like in the middle of a phone call.

I agree with realsis, don't count on T-Mobile. Right now you have 4.3 roms but they might not be perfect, I'm sure when Samsung releases the update with Touchwiz and everything, someone will figure out how to port the features to our S4. This seems like it's been repeated a million times, but latest updates can only come from 2 sources: XDA or directly from Google for Nexus devices.
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As soon as the internatinal i9505 galaxy s4 4.3 is realesed we will be able to install it becuase we run the same hardware so thats the good thing
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Sorry but this thread is funny and painful. We know tmobile employees are too dumb to rely on them for software

I'd honestly have a hard time believing that Samsung isn't going to be pushing the providers HARD to get the update out. They've got watches to sell...

Toleraen said:
I'd honestly have a hard time believing that Samsung isn't going to be pushing the providers HARD to get the update out. They've got watches to sell...
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That's a good point, but i dont think the carriers care.
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Pray for the update in Oct 2014

Im sure not waiting till october 2014 for this update. hopefully I'll have jumped over to something else. By that time. .in the meantime I'm going to enjoy what we have available here on xda... tmobile ALWAYS uses the same excuse every update. "Oh were testing it" or " there was a issue with it" having been with tmobile ten years ive heard this over and over. Different device SAME story. This might sound odd but I think they hold their updates as a sort of marketing strategy. They will wait till something even greater is released by the time the updates comes out its so old it does not matter and we jump ship to the latest and greatest... think about it..if they gave our updates as they should be given we might actually be happy with our device therefore less likely to buy the latest and greatest new device... I dont know I can't help but think that they hold these updstes for their OWN reasons.. hopefully I'm wrong but ive seen this before....

Correct me if I'm wrong, the "WATCH " is only compatible with the Note 3 when it's released. I could seriously see T-Mobile waiting to see how many S4 owners are desperate enough to go out purchase the N3 just to get the watch before releasing the update.
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nymikey said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, the "WATCH " is only compatible with the Note 3 when it's released. I could seriously see T-Mobile waiting to see how many S4 owners are desperate enough to go out purchase the N3 just to get the watch before releasing the update.
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No the watch will be compatible with the s3 s4 and note 2 IF they are updated by T-Mobile/Samsung to 4.3.
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They wouldn't do that as marketing strategy because the only people that care about updates are people that know a lot about the phone so if they continued to never update any phones customers would eventually go to other carriers that care about updates versus buying a new phone again that will never get updated
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nymikey said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, the "WATCH " is only compatible with the Note 3 when it's released. I could seriously see T-Mobile waiting to see how many S4 owners are desperate enough to go out purchase the N3 just to get the watch before releasing the update.
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I still think Samsung is in a nice position (in regards to market-share) to push the telcos to release the update. Seems kind of silly anyway since Samsung are the ones creating the update. One leak to SamMobile would put the pressure back on T-Mobile. Samsung has a lot more to gain from watch sales with multiple compatible devices in the wild than they would hoping that people would upgrade to a N3 AND get the watch.
I'll probably still be running CM, but it'll be nice to have an official 4.3 release

I saw a thread somewhere on xda an hour ago about a leaked Sammy 4.3 for the i9500/i9505 trying to find it again to share the link.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465713
[GT-I9505][Leaked firmware] I9505XXUEMI8 (Android 4.3) - Open Europe (OXA) [01-10-13]
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jds3118 said:
I saw a thread somewhere on xda an hour ago about a leaked Sammy 4.3 for the i9500/i9505 trying to find it again to share the link.
Edit: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2465713
[GT-I9505][Leaked firmware] I9505XXUEMI8 (Android 4.3) - Open Europe (OXA) [01-10-13]
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I saw this and was wondering is there anything special one needs to do before flashing. Like should I wait for a CWM rom or can I just use the download as is?

Dustin.M650 said:
I saw this and was wondering is there anything special one needs to do before flashing. Like should I wait for a CWM rom or can I just use the download as is?
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Not sure haven't tried it yet lol but from reading the thread I believe if u flash without the new bl file it should work maybe a more experienced dev can work their magic for us. :thumbup:
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Can a Verizon HTC One with 4.4.2 OTA be rooted yet?

The 25th of February was the last time I asked this, and it's been a week and a day since then, so I figured that its an appropriate time to ask.
Can a stock Verizon HTC One (the standard One, not Max, not Mini, not dual-SIM) running stock Android 4.4.2 KitKat OTA be rooted yet?
Thanks,
Andrew
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nikalsaki said:
The 25th of February was the last time I asked this, and it's been a week and a day since then, so I figured that its an appropriate time to ask.
Can a stock Verizon HTC One (the standard One, not Max, not Mini, not dual-SIM) running stock Android 4.4.2 KitKat OTA be rooted yet?
Thanks,
Andrew
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Nope. You'll see a thread pop up when its possible. Just scan around the Verizon HTC One forums. When an update happens there's usually chatter in the Rumrunner thread.
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It'll happen when it happens. I want to root my phone as much as the next guy, particularly so that the titanium backup app I paid good money for will have a purpose, but having previously come from a sprint gs II, the "stock" version of this phone is leagues ahead of others I've seen. Root is almost unnecessary.
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Aganar said:
Root is almost unnecessary.
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I agree with you 99%. In fact the only reason I want to root this phone is so I can install adaway.

Tethering
I need root to tether as the 4.4.2 update killed Foxfi. There is no way in HELL I am paying $30 to Verizon just to tether my phone to my computer (I have unlimited data)

KOAO said:
I need root to tether as the 4.4.2 update killed Foxfi. There is no way in HELL I am paying $30 to Verizon just to tether my phone to my computer (I have unlimited data)
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Not to mention you would also lose you unlimited data if you did go with Verizon's service. I'm in the same boat, my Foxfi got killed with the update and I considered paying for the mobile hotspot feature but said hell no to giving up my unlim data.

Aganar said:
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Can't agree with you. Verizon installs a bunch of unneeded software which just drains your battery. Also you can't create a hot-spot. That's ridiculous - they're taking money for a built-in android feature. So having root gives you a real advantage of re-flashing your device with custom firmware and getting rid of all the limitations Verizon put on you.

k-unker said:
Can't agree with you. Verizon installs a bunch of unneeded software which just drains your battery. Also you can't create a hot-spot. That's ridiculous - they're taking money for a built-in android feature. So having root gives you a real advantage of re-flashing your device with custom firmware and getting rid of all the limitations Verizon put on you.
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You can disable most of the bloat software. Just go into your settings, go to app manager, go to all and tap on whatever you want to disable. It will make it like the app was never there.

pda48428 said:
You can disable most of the bloat software. Just go into your settings, go to app manager, go to all and tap on whatever you want to disable. It will make it like the app was never there.
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That doesn't exactly fix the problem of the apps taking up valuable space. I kinda agree with both of you. I think that without root this phone, unlike the S4 and others, is mostly enjoyable and still smooth. However, with root it just adds a nice amount of gravy. I like being able to perform nandroids/flash firmwares/etc, use Titanium Backup, flash any rom I please with useful features (like double tap to wake so I don't have to use the poorly placed power button), use Xposed modules, use Adaway, use emulators with a PS3 controller, etc etc.

Root vs not rooted is irrelevant to the OP. The OP wants root.
I highly recommend checking with sonic or checking with mobile tech videos.
It is probably possible to downgrade the firmware to make the phone vulnerable to S-off
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Disagree with those who say rooting is unnecessary. It is like opening a window to endless opportunities on your phone , sort of like Alice through the Looking Glass. It is very worth it. I have been rooted since version 4.2 and to me defines the very concept of Android being open source. Verizon tries to limit the Android like Apple does to the iPhone.
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xdadevnube said:
Root vs not rooted is irrelevant to the OP. The OP wants root.
I highly recommend checking with sonic or checking with mobile tech videos.
It is probably possible to downgrade the firmware to make the phone vulnerable to S-off
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It's not possible to downgrade firmware..unless, of course, you're s-off. If there's a way to achieve s-off for the VZW HTC One on 4.4.2, it will be seen here in the VZW HTC One forums. There's a new thread everyday asking the same question.
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brholt6 said:
It's not possible to downgrade firmware..unless, of course, you're s-off. If there's a way to achieve s-off for the VZW HTC One on 4.4.2, it will be seen here in the VZW HTC One forums. There's a new thread everyday asking the same question.
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Are you sure that Sonic's card method or Mobile Tech Videos can't do it?
Unless you confirm with them, I still suspect it is possible.
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xdadevnube said:
Are you sure that Sonic's card method or Mobile Tech Videos can't do it?
Unless you confirm with them, I still suspect it is possible.
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I'm 100% positive you can't downgrade firmware. Sonics java card is the only other possibility. Don't think anyone has had any luck contacting him, though (check out the java card s-off thread). I know I tried before 4.3 was exploited. If mobile tech videos had a method, you would have seen a thread somewhere in this forum.
Basically all I was getting at is that if there's a way to achieve s-off on 4.4.2, there would be chatter here.
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brholt6 said:
I'm 100% positive you can't downgrade firmware. Sonics java card is the only other possibility. Don't think anyone has had any luck contacting him, though (check out the java card s-off thread). I know I tried before 4.3 was exploited. If mobile tech videos had a method, you would have seen a thread somewhere in this forum.
Basically all I was getting at is that if there's a way to achieve s-off on 4.4.2, there would be chatter here.
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No offense, but you are saying neither Sonic nor Mobile Tech Videos have been contacted...
Therefore, your conclusion that it is not possible to downgrade firmware is based on nothing.
Like I said, until I see it from the horses mouth, it is still a possibility. Sonic has achieved S-off for many people and I haven't seen anything to tarnish his good reputation. The Java card will likely work on the latest update.
I do not speak for Sonic nor Mobile Tech Videos. Until either party provides a confirmation themselves, I WILL NOT FALSLEY CONCLUDE IT IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY.
People said the exact and thing about the VZW Note 2. AS IT TURNS OUT, Mobile Tech Videos can downgrade the firmware on the VZW Note 2 with JTag. They confirmed when they were emailed. They charge 75$ for the valuable service.
You may be correct in that there is currently no cost free method to downgrade the firmware on the VZW HTC One on the latest OTA.
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xdadevnube said:
No offense, but you are saying neither Sonic nor Mobile Tech Videos have been contacted...
Therefore, your conclusion that it is not possible to downgrade firmware is based on nothing.
Like I said, until I see it from the horses mouth, it is still a possibility. Sonic has achieved S-off for many people and I haven't seen anything to tarnish his good reputation. The Java card will likely work on the latest update.
I do not speak for Sonic nor Mobile Tech Videos. Until either party provides a confirmation themselves, I WILL NOT FALSLEY CONCLUDE IT IS AN IMPOSSIBILITY.
People said the exact and thing about the VZW Note 2. AS IT TURNS OUT, Mobile Tech Videos can downgrade the firmware on the VZW Note 2 with JTag. They confirmed when they were emailed. They charge 75$ for the valuable service.
You may be correct in that there is currently no cost free method to downgrade the firmware on the VZW HTC One on the latest OTA.
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SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO
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SOUNDS LIKE YOU'VE GOT SOME WORK TO DO
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I'll give it a shot. It's better than useless naysaying and spreading FUD without the info to back it up.
I will get back with an answer. Unless you beat me to it.
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I'll give it a shot. It's better than useless naysaying and spreading FUD without the info to back it up.
I will get back with an answer. Unless you beat me to it.
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I'm s-off so I don't really care what you come up with. But I'm not just BS'ing. It would be great if people had the option to downgrade firmware so hopefully you can prove me wrong (since you're calling BS on the ability to downgrade...the java card gets you s-off, it doesn't downgrade your firmware. You're only hope is mobile tech to prove me wrong).
Anyways, bickering is even more useless than calling BS with nothing to back it up. I really do wish you luck...it would make a lot of people happy.
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Mobile Tech Videos confirmed that they can indeed S-off any, including Kitkat 4.4.2 OTA, VZW HTC One units.
They are charging $75.
No response from the PayPal email address that was used for the transaction with Sonic's S-off procedure. Not yet, anyway.
Mobile Tech Videos has a good reputation and I'm confident they will be true to their word.
Also, there is a new thread unveiling Jcases's root method for 4.4.2 to be unveiled in August.

Certainly not definitive, but I tried numerous times without success to contact Sonic about the java card S-off... I tried PM, text message, tweet, and email with no response. As, I am one of the unlucky ones with the 4.4.2 OTA, I may try the Mobile Tech Videos... anyone ever used them for an HTC Verizon device?

Stock Android

Im not sure if my tablet is 7.0, to be honest I just took it from my mom after she bought it and used it for 1 day and then left it in a drawer.
My model number is SM-T210, and the android that came with it is a bit slow so I wanted to install stock, anyone has a guide? and so I need a special android for it or can I install the same one that is on my Nexus 4 for example?
Thanks!

What if she ever found out her tabs missing? Or found you playing with it and she complained about the whole thing being messed up?
Anyway, to answer your question no, there is not a stock ROM, and if there is for your model its buggy, and probably has more lag then Samsung's touchwiz.
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Dont worry it not like that when I said "took" I ment with permission from her.
Anyway, 2 Question:
1. if I install a custom ROM I imagine there will be no OTA for me anymore right? (Unless I got back to to smasung's ROM)
2. What is the fastest and most stable ROM/Kernel combo out there? I tried googling it but the information is very fragmented over the net.
Thanks!

You can't find anything cause they're is really no development. A lot of people aren't even helping answering questions the past couple days...its that slow.
Your best bet is to just root, backup, and play around with exposed modules and see what you can customize on your own, its what most of us do. Just Google it and read about it. Not a lot of us can help with exposed either, its just trial and error. If one thing fails, you just restore and try again.
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Meaning I cant just install the same Android that is on my phone on my tablet? tablets need an android that is ment for them? and in other words im stuck with samsung's **** OS?

And what about installing nexus 7 OS on galaxy tab 3?

It has to be developed for our hardware, if you try to flash something that wasn't meant for your device you could end up with a brick.
We need sources for our device, or we need to buy a cyanogen mod developer one of our devices so they can do it. Its not as easy as one might think.
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