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Hello,
I have a LG G3 and I want to install it the cleanest of the Android system.
LG G3 Google Android Edition or 5.0 L
How can I do this?
Thank you
shimon360 said:
Hello,
I have a LG G3 and I want to install it the cleanest of the Android system.
LG G3 Google Android Edition or 5.0 L
How can I do this?
Thank you
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You can't.
shimon360 said:
Hello,
I have a LG G3 and I want to install it the cleanest of the Android system.
LG G3 Google Android Edition or 5.0 L
How can I do this?
Thank you
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There is no GPE G3.
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Not possible right now
keep your eyes on this section of the forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development
and wait for someone to port the GPE or when the 5.0 leak.
T mobiles LG G3 is the first to get root, bootloader unlock and custom recovery. It will be the first to get ROMS like AOSP android. That's your best bet. If you can find someone in good standing and get it unlocked, it should work on several carriers. It's up to the development community and what they create. I don't know what I would have done without them.
With something like GPE, are we going to lose extra functionalities like knock on and phone movement functions (like putting to ear to answer, flip to silence calls/snooze alarm), etc?
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Nitemare3219 said:
With something like GPE, are we going to lose extra functionalities like knock on and phone movement functions (like putting to ear to answer, flip to silence calls/snooze alarm), etc?
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Basically yes.
Stock Android is plain and devoid of features. That's why we all root and ROM our Nexus phones. Latest versions of Android are overrated when ROMs or skinned phones offer more out of the box.
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shimon360 said:
Hello,
I have a LG G3 and I want to install it the cleanest of the Android system.
LG G3 Google Android Edition or 5.0 L
How can I do this?
Thank you
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You sell your G3 for $550, you buy a Nexus 5 for $300, you now have the cleanest version of Android and an extra $250 in your pocket.
You're welcome.
bigkevbosky said:
You sell your G3 for $550, you buy a Nexus 5 for $300, you now have the cleanest version of Android and an extra $250 in your pocket.
You're welcome.
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Lol 550. I paid 570 New for my g3 from att. I don't see anybody getting 550 for it used
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903tex said:
Lol 550. I paid 570 New for my g3 from att. I don't see anybody getting 550 for it used
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http://swappa.com/buy/lg-g3-tmobile/us
http://swappa.com/buy/lg-g3-att/us
Your G3 is worth less because AT&T sucks. That's why.
partylikeaninjastar said:
Stock Android is plain and devoid of features. That's why we all root and ROM our Nexus phones. Latest versions of Android are overrated when ROMs or skinned phones offer more out of the box.
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And stock Android (or at least the Nexus version of Android) is still, by far, the best version available. Why do Nexus owners modify it? Because they CAN.... and it gives them an excellent framework on which to do so. Most everything you can do on ANY of these ROMs, you can find something that can approximate the same feature.... so you can pick and choose what you want. The UI isn't cluttered, screens aren't unnecessarily crowded. I had a Nexus 5 before I got my G3 and I can say, without hesitation, that I would replace the G3's stock ROM with AOSP the instant a fully functional one became available. When I first got my G3, I spent the better part of the first days of owning it doing my best to strip away the OEM stuff on there and 'Nex-ify' it.... Ideally, I'd have an AOSP-based ROM to work off rather than work around LG's stuff.
In fact, I'm going to try to build one for myself... I downloaded LG's D851 source code earlier to day actually (thank you LG for releasing the system and kernel sources). I'm not expecting this to be an easy task, not in the least... but the ONLY shortcoming that I can see in this phone is the software loaded on it, so if I can work around that, I'll be quite pleased.
LeoRex said:
And stock Android (or at least the Nexus version of Android) is still, by far, the best version available. Why do Nexus owners modify it? Because they CAN.... and it gives them an excellent framework on which to do so. Most everything you can do on ANY of these ROMs, you can find something that can approximate the same feature.... so you can pick and choose what you want. The UI isn't cluttered, screens aren't unnecessarily crowded. I had a Nexus 5 before I got my G3 and I can say, without hesitation, that I would replace the G3's stock ROM with AOSP the instant a fully functional one became available. When I first got my G3, I spent the better part of the first days of owning it doing my best to strip away the OEM stuff on there and 'Nex-ify' it.... Ideally, I'd have an AOSP-based ROM to work off rather than work around LG's stuff.
In fact, I'm going to try to build one for myself... I downloaded LG's D851 source code earlier to day actually (thank you LG for releasing the system and kernel sources). I'm not expecting this to be an easy task, not in the least... but the ONLY shortcoming that I can see in this phone is the software loaded on it, so if I can work around that, I'll be quite pleased.
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Nexus owners modify their phones because stock Android leaves so much to be desired and it add functionality that mind blowingly isn't in stock — a fine example being quick settings that are actually quick (and customizable) and something as simple as showing the battery percent in the status bar.
And how do you figure that the UI is cluttered on the G3? How exactly is that so? The screens aren't necessarily crowded in the least bit. Visually, the Nexus 5 and G3 don't differ much outside of the default launcher (that most people change anyway regardless of which phone they're on) and the settings menu. I'd argue that the G3 presents the settings better since you can quickly jump to what you want thanks to them being tabbed. Aside from those, the differences are negligible because you'd only find yourself in apps beyond that. I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch of "bloat" that is easy to remove or otherwise easy to ignore.
There is literally nothing obtrusive about LG's UI here. People are just Nexus/Google obsessed. That is my opinion after owning a Nexus 4 and still owning a Nexus 5 and 7. I don't need to "Nexify" my phone because there is literally nothing that a Nexus has over the G3 except for being a download away from the Google camera and its ability to take photosphere photos.
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bigkevbosky said:
http://swappa.com/buy/lg-g3-tmobile/us
http://swappa.com/buy/lg-g3-att/us
Your G3 is worth less because AT&T sucks. That's why.
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That's the dumbest thing I ever heard! Its called common sense. Why pay 550 when you can get one New for couple bucks more?
You can price what you want doesn't mean your going to get that price lol!
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And how do you figure that the UI is cluttered on the G3? How exactly is that so?
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The notification panel, like in touchwiz, is a hot mess. HTC, to their credit, left things be and themed the notification and quick settings panels, rather than smashing them into one. I hated that about touchwiz and I hate it here... thankfully, I was able to toss the worst with tweakbox.
The rest of the layout isn't horrible... just laid out awkwardly. Between tweakbox and the Now Launcher, things are pretty good now. I just prefer AOSP, visually. If you're fine with it, that's cool.
By the way, the Google camera, and photosphere, work on the G3.
903tex said:
That's the dumbest thing I ever heard! Its called common sense. Why pay 550 when you can get one New for couple bucks more?
You can price what you want doesn't mean your going to get that price lol!
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How is that dumb? If he has the T-Mo version, he can sell it for more. Look at the link I provided. T-Mo's versions are selling for $550. So my original statement that he could sell it for $550 and have $250 left after buying a Nexus 5 is correct.
I didn't check AT&T prices because I did away with that worthless company last year. Still, even if he has an AT&T version, he can sell it for $450 and have $150 left in his pocket. My original point is valid either way.
Why the hell are you arguing with me about this? Is it just to be able to have an argument on the internet?
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How is that dumb? If he has the T-Mo version, he can sell it for more. Look at the link I provided. T-Mo's versions are selling for $550. So my original statement that he could sell it for $550 and have $250 left after buying a Nexus 5 is correct.
I didn't check AT&T prices because I did away with that worthless company last year. Still, even if he has an AT&T version, he can sell it for $450 and have $150 left in his pocket. My original point is valid either way.
Why the hell are you arguing with me about this? Is it just to be able to have an argument on the internet?
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Lol I'm not arguing with you. I just know nobody gonna pay that much for a used g3 when you can get one New for a couple of bucks more.
LeoRex said:
The notification panel, like in touchwiz, is a hot mess. HTC, to their credit, left things be and themed the notification and quick settings panels, rather than smashing them into one. I hated that about touchwiz and I hate it here... thankfully, I was able to toss the worst with tweakbox.
The rest of the layout isn't horrible... just laid out awkwardly. Between tweakbox and the Now Launcher, things are pretty good now. I just prefer AOSP, visually. If you're fine with it, that's cool.
By the way, the Google camera, and photosphere, work on the G3.
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The notification panel is only as cluttered as the user makes it as any toggle in it is optional. A single line of icons with your most commonly used toggles first is not cluttered. I don't even need to scroll past the first five icons in my notification panel and I don't need the sliders either (though they do help if you want your notifications to start off lower to make them easier to select one handed). The stock Quick Settings are even more cluttered (a separate page of huge icons on a grid), so the Android L design will be a welcome and more useful refresh of the idea.
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Basically yes.
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GPE ROMs have plenty of OEM features in them.
Hi, I just wondered how LG is at upgrading the Android versions. Like do they come quick? Are they good and mostly bug-free? Etc etc. Thinking about buying the glorious G4 because it's beautiful and I need a new phone. Probably going to run custom roms tho, but if I choose not to I'd like to know how LG is at android-updates
martin9400 said:
Hi, I just wondered how LG is at upgrading the Android versions. Like do they come quick? Are they good and mostly bug-free? Etc etc. Thinking about buying the glorious G4 because it's beautiful and I need a new phone. Probably going to run custom roms tho, but if I choose not to I'd like to know how LG is at android-updates
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I switched from Sammy note 1 to G2 then G3 and now have both G3 & G4. Never need run custom ROM B4. Only Stock ROM and Cloudyfa's Stock ROM. I just love the LG UX.
Now with G4 's UX 4.0 simply awesome. No lagging for me for I only have G4 for 2 days and no root. IDK what to tell you try it don't like it just return it xD. Even my 1 year old low end LG Gpad 7.0 V400 got Lollipop OTA update in April. What to complain when LG USA MOBILE send me a Brand New LG G4 H815 to keep.
Great story, but can you answer the question the Op asked? How quickly do LG put out updates, eg. how quickly did they update from kitkat to lollipop?
Yeah, I'm wondering because it took my Z3 about an eon to update from 4.4.2 to 5.0.1, and that I really did not like. But hopefully this is an easier device to fiddle with when it comes to root and recovery than my old Z3, which was a pain in the butt sometimes. Had a good experience with my previous LG Optimus 4X HD when it came to getting it rooted with custom recovery, but man that phone is so old that it just lags when you barely look at it.
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Great story, but can you answer the question the Op asked? How quickly do LG put out updates, eg. how quickly did they update from kitkat to lollipop?
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How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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rogconnect said:
How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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True, but also keep in mind (stock) Lollipop for some devices is still FUBAR. For example t-mobile G3.
OP: In the end 90% of the delay in a device getting an update is not the manufacturer, Its the carrier. That's why things like Nexus phones and GE phones were able to get updates fairly rapidly. The manufacturer takes the source, compiles with/against their own custom code and a bit of testing and its done. This should likely take less than 2 weeks after source drop.
What takes so long is carriers with all their bloat (getting it to work) and also making sure they have locked you down enough to make them happy and to keep any lucrative government contracts they have that require a certain immutability of the phones core OS for security reasons. This part can take months. My kids LG Stylo is T-mo branded and the T-mo my account app still crashes all the time.
rogconnect said:
How fast? I remember G3 is the first to get Lollipop b4 nexus. The leaked version was out earlier. Here the articles
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/09/lg-first-with-lollipop-upgrades/
So there.
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Thanks for the info... Not sure what the childish 'so there' was about though!
rahlquist said:
True, but also keep in mind (stock) Lollipop for some devices is still FUBAR. For example t-mobile G3.
OP: In the end 90% of the delay in a device getting an update is not the manufacturer, Its the carrier. That's why things like Nexus phones and GE phones were able to get updates fairly rapidly. The manufacturer takes the source, compiles with/against their own custom code and a bit of testing and its done. This should likely take less than 2 weeks after source drop.
What takes so long is carriers with all their bloat (getting it to work) and also making sure they have locked you down enough to make them happy and to keep any lucrative government contracts they have that require a certain immutability of the phones core OS for security reasons. This part can take months. My kids LG Stylo is T-mo branded and the T-mo my account app still crashes all the time.
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That's exactly why I always go for sim-free phones and avoid the networks/carriers - much better chance of getting updates sooner (although I appreciate the short-term expense makes this unavailable to some).
Unless you have a Nexus device, I wouldn't even hope to get updates. The G2 was slow as hell, and only received 1 update ever with TMO.
Updates from LG are really good and fast. I have G3 and I can not complain.
Great story
hopefully lg goes straight to android m
Depends on the device. In the UK no G2s have Lollipop yet. Not even SIM free ones.
Hey all,
I'm almost ready to make my switch (from AT&T to Verizon). I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 that I put Candy5 ROM on it, and I really liked it, so I'm planning on trying that on an LG G4. I like the built in Privacy Guard and Ad Blocker....but as I read these forums it doesn't appear that Candy is developed for the G4. Advice...go with the G4 and see what other ROM's will be similar, or go with the G3 as I'm getting major discounts and a choice of phones? Thank you much.
DigiAngel69 said:
Hey all,
I'm almost ready to make my switch (from AT&T to Verizon). I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 that I put Candy5 ROM on it, and I really liked it, so I'm planning on trying that on an LG G4. I like the built in Privacy Guard and Ad Blocker....but as I read these forums it doesn't appear that Candy is developed for the G4. Advice...go with the G4 and see what other ROM's will be similar, or go with the G3 as I'm getting major discounts and a choice of phones? Thank you much.
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TL;DR If you need a rom, wait, if you can get by without it, I highly suggest the G4.
At the moment, there are no ROMS for the Verizon variant of the LG g4. You can root and disable some of the bloat wear, but that is about it. We don't have custom roms because the bootloader is still locked and this prevents us from installing a custom recovery (such as TWRP) that would allow you to install a ROM (if one existed).
If your hopes are to put a ROM on the LG G4, then I suggest you wait until the bootloader unlock happens (if it ever does).
HOWEVER, and you can take this with a grain or cup or whatever of salt, I had a Note 3. The development on it was extremely slow because it too had a locked bootloader. We used a program called SafeStrap which allowed stock based ROMs to be installed and deployed to the device. Another option was FlashFire which allowed you to flash a ROM, backup, or update from inside the device. So there are options available to get a ROM on the device, if they existed, but they would have to be stock based.
Both of these tools helped to bring some ROMS to the Note 3, but never succeed in providing a CM based rom.
I am a heavy ROM freak. I love to flash new ROMs, everyday if I can get by with it, but I usually test them for a few weeks and document how the ROM functioned on the device.
Normally my major complaints (coming from samsung) would be the bloatware and the UI overlay that the mother company puts in, such as Touchwiz. But I think that LG did a REALLY good job of keeping the bloat down, the UI smooth and nonintrusive (the same CAN NOT BE SAID FOR VERIZON!!! Their bloatware is atrocious and they have ways of spying on your device to see what is running and if you are rooted), so even though LG did a great job Verizon screwed the pooch, as always.
I really enjoyed the stock elements that LG brought to the LG G4, and all in all I say its a good switch. The device has a good battery life with the stock battery, there are tweaks with Xposed to make the DPI a little more manageable, and the Phone, at least my phone, is super smooth with NO crashes to this day! If you can get by without a ROM, I think the G4 would be a good upgrade.
If you HAVE to have a custom ROM, I suggest you wait a little longer to see what happens with the Bootloader.
If you have the ability buy one of the H815 European versions of the G4, LG will allow you to unlock the bootloader on the device which will allow you to install TWRP, and there is already a ROM for it!
Hope this helps!
I love my G4, don't get me wrong, but I just pre-ordered a Moto X Pure (starts at $399 - no contract price) and it's 100% unlocked for all carriers. You can use it on AT&T (with full LTE) for now and bring it to Verizon when you're ready. We know that the bootloader is unlockable so as soon as people begin receiving these phones, XDA will blow up with development. And this phone will be on of the first to receive Android M since it's running pure (or close to it) Android.
Again, the G4 is an amazing phone and has quite possibly one of the best cameras available. But if you're looking for roms and development you're going to find yourself checking a bare forum every day just to respond to off topic posts. The MXP is the clear winner for development and it hasn't even started shipping yet.
joshw0000 said:
I love my G4, don't get me wrong, but I just pre-ordered a Moto X Pure (starts at $399 - no contract price) and it's 100% unlocked for all carriers. You can use it on AT&T (with full LTE) for now and bring it to Verizon when you're ready. We know that the bootloader is unlockable so as soon as people begin receiving these phones, XDA will blow up with development. And this phone will be on of the first to receive Android M since it's running pure (or close to it) Android.
Again, the G4 is an amazing phone and has quite possibly one of the best cameras available. But if you're looking for roms and development you're going to find yourself checking a bare forum every day just to respond to off topic posts. The MXP is the clear winner for development and it hasn't even started shipping yet.
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My sentiments exactly. I couldn't wait for the G4. Slick design, leather back, great camera. A class act phone, but I don't want to keep waiting, and hoping, that the bootloader gets unlocked. The MXP has almost the same specs, and I know development will be huge. Gotta feed the need.
spotmark said:
My sentiments exactly. I couldn't wait for the G4. Slick design, leather back, great camera. A class act phone, but I don't want to keep waiting, and hoping, that the bootloader gets unlocked. The MXP has almost the same specs, and I know development will be huge. Gotta feed the need.
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I got 2 64gb's coming 9/21. Unless the G4 gets some development soon, that might be my last day using it.
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joshw0000 said:
I got 2 64gb's coming 9/21. Unless the G4 gets some development soon, that might be my last day using it.
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Sucks for you. Mine comes next Thursday.
As others have said, there are no ROMs out there currently for the Verizon G4.
No roms yet for the LG G4 but honestly the stock rom is golden. I've been a fan of stock LG ROMS since the G2. It's just about as close to vanilla as you're going to get.
Your best bet is to root, debloat, then install xposed, change your launcher to Google Now Launcher, then install the GEL xposed app (to change grid sizes, tweaks to launcher, etc).
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No roms yet for the LG G4 but honestly the stock rom is golden. I've been a fan of stock LG ROMS since the G2. It's just about as close to vanilla as you're going to get.
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Huh? I'm sorry, but LG is one of the furthest from stock Android out there.
Motorola and Sony are much closer to stock.
geoff5093 said:
Huh? I'm sorry, but LG is one of the furthest from stock Android out there.
Motorola and Sony are much closer to stock.
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LG is much closer to stock than HTC or Samsung. The last moto x i played on felt identical to stock android so i assumed it was. Ive never had a sony.
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LG is much closer to stock than HTC or Samsung. The last moto x i played on felt identical to stock android so i assumed it was. Ive never had a sony.
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Eh I think LG is pretty much the same as samsung
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Im also considering ditching my G4 for X Pure entirely because of the GUI and no root/roms. The GUI is not even close to vanilla. In fact from everything I've read on the forums the stock launcher was merely ported straight from the G3's KK ROM and doesn't include any/many updates for L. No support for native equalizer.
G4's battery life is mediocre at best, but receiving a free spare from LG and it being removable in general is a big plus. The display on the G4 is above average. If i could have an unlocked bootloader G4 with AOSP it would probably be perfect.
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Im also considering ditching my G4 for X Pure entirely because of the GUI and no root/roms. The GUI is not even close to vanilla. In fact from everything I've read on the forums the stock launcher was merely ported straight from the G3's KK ROM and doesn't include any/many updates for L. No support for native equalizer.
G4's battery life is mediocre at best, but receiving a free spare from LG and it being removable in general is a big plus. The display on the G4 is above average. If i could have an unlocked bootloader G4 with AOSP it would probably be perfect.
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My Pure is being delivered today. I can't wait for the devs to get theirs, so I can start flashing ROMs again. It's been a long three months. :victory:
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My Pure is being delivered today. I can't wait for the devs to get theirs, so I can start flashing ROMs again. It's been a long three months. :victory:
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What color combination did you get? The Pure is really intriguing, but I want to see reviews first and make sure it gets rooted.
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What color combination did you get? The Pure is really intriguing, but I want to see reviews first and make sure it gets rooted.
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Just got the black/gray, and I'm not worried one bit about it getting rooted. With an unlockable bootloader I'm sure there will be mad development. I love my G4, but I'm not holding out much hope for the bootloader at this point.
Got my 32gb white/bamboo MXPE arriving on Friday... Goodbye G4! (Sorry to hijack the thread)
Getting rid of the g4 was hard, but the nexus 6 is working well at this point. I forgot how nice it is to have a working touch screen.
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I'm tired of waiting also. The only thing that has prevented me from ordering the mxp so far is the possibility that the g4 pro is going to be an awesome phone. I'm sure it will have the same development issues as the g4 but if the spec rumors are close I might can live with it....lol
As the title says, I have a VK810 that I desperately need to get to 5.1 or greater.
I have been looking all over for a way with no luck. I have an audio controller that won't work properly with the tablet without it.
Seems like verizon is never going to release the update.
Can anyone assist?
lilngineer said:
As the title says, I have a VK810 that I desperately need to get to 5.1 or greater.
I have been looking all over for a way with no luck. I have an audio controller that won't work properly with the tablet without it.
Seems like verizon is never going to release the update.
Can anyone assist?
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There's a CM12.1 ROM in Development or Original Development, and more recent builds you can find by looking for @invisiblek 's site. You can't get mobile data on them. Some had luck getting mobile data to work for a little while on more recent builds but I never had luck, and I know it stopped working for a friend of mine who out world for originally.
It's too soon to give up on another official update in my opinion. The second official 5.0.2 release came out three months ago, and to compare, on the VS985 G3, there were three months between the second 5.0.1 and 5.1.1, and updates will never come out as fast for the G Pad 8.3 as for the G3 although I think perhaps the first Lollipop for the VK810.4G came out before it did for the G3, but you know what I mean. The phones are more of a priority.
Hi, I was hoping someone could explain something for me. I'm looking through the forums and seeing the threads for roms and kernels specifically for H815 and H811, usually separate. I'm from the US, considering the G4 on T-Mobile. As I understand it, both can have the bootloaders unlocked (H811 comes unlocked, and the H815 can be unlocked).
I know the H815 has had Marshmallow released, and the H811 has not yet.
What I'm wondering and what I can't find a straight answer to is why, for example, when I look at CM downloads, I can find a v13 for H815 but only a v12.x for H811. The best answer I could find is something about there not being a released bootloader or modem for the H811 compatible with that. I don't know if that was accurate or not, but if it is that confuses me because I've had a Galaxy SIII whose last carrier Android release was 4.4.2, yet is still getting CM 13 releases pretty quickly and other AOSP updates from developers. Is the reason the H811 isn't just because there isn't enough people or developers using that model, so less are working on an updated kernel compatibile with it? I've never had to update my modem or bootloader for an update between Android versions, so I'm assuming that answer was wrong unless there's something I'm missing? I don't think there's a real hardware difference between the two models besides the modems/bands supported, right?
I'm trying to figure out my best option here, have had a Samsung Galaxy SIII since Aug. 2012, bootloader unlocked not too long after, and have really liked it until recently when I was having a slight issue with streaming audio over my mobile network and decided to switch back to stock for a short time to see if it fixed it and compare some settings, stupidly not realizing that in the 3 years I had been away from the stock firmware that Verizon had locked down the firmware again to 4.4.2 and nobody has figured out how to get around it.
I'm looking for a phone that I can install AOSP or CM or similar Roms on (Although I'm not against playing around with the LG Stock Android, it doesn't look that bad, but I want the choice) and am really hoping user removable battery and MicroSD slot. It's not a major must, but I would also like a fairly good camera.
Sounds like my best bet is either the Nexus devices or the LG G3 or the G4 H811. These all either have unlocked boot loaders or ones that are easy to more or less unlock, which I know is something I'll want if I don't want to be stuck on the version of Android the manufacturer supports. I can't stand the size the Nexus 6 or 6P is, haven't had a chance to see the 5X, but it's lacking the removable battery and memory card. I'm currently on Verizon, and would prefer to stay there, but am considering T-Mobile as a potential possibility. If I go with a G3 I'll stay with Verizon, if I go with a G4 I'll have to switch to T-Mobile.
I've seen the G3 and G4 in person, I like both, but prefer the G4 just based on the color temp of the screen, the camera, and battery charging (The G3's in Verizon's store were all low on battery because the charger couldn't keep up, but the G4 was fine I'm assuming because of the quick charging). But, it's looking like the G3 is currently better in terms of development support than the G4. My worry is in a year or so I may be stuck on a version of Android, whereas with my GS3 (Up until it got re-locked) it was still being actively updated. I can get the G3 online for ~200$ versus ~$400 for the G4, and the rest of the specs on the phone aren't different enough for me to care that much about seeing as my GSIII was handing all my requirements until recently.
Wasn't sure if this was the best place to post this, but my only option for the G4 is the T-Mobile H811, and if there is a big reason why that isn't supported (Whether it's because there's not a large enough user base or something else) then perhaps it's best I not consider that device?
It's been a long time since I've done much with porting Android and have been focused on the device I've had for the past 3.5 years, so I might be missing something here. If anyone can clear some of this up for me, it's be appreciated.
Thanks.
If you want to be able to install an AOSP or CM or similar Roms you sure gonna have a bad time with the LG G4 cause the variants that can be unlocked are the H815 from the european market, hence the variable that are sell in the US ares as you mention the H811 that can't be unlcoked or the H815P wich can't be unlocked either, if you can afford a nexus i'll go with the nexus (I'm planning in upgrading to the nexus 6P for the same reason i own a LG G4 and i'm very dissapointed with the develop of the phone) since i come from the LG G3 that phone although it has a very limited amount of roms at the time it's now a little biger but nothing compare with any nexus... so for resume I'll go Nexus>LG G3>LG G4
Sorry for the bad english
flick36 said:
If you want to be able to install an AOSP or CM or similar Roms you sure gonna have a bad time with the LG G4 cause the variants that can be unlocked are the H815 from the european market, hence the variable that are sell in the US ares as you mention the H811 that can't be unlcoked or the H815P wich can't be unlocked either, if you can afford a nexus i'll go with the nexus (I'm planning in upgrading to the nexus 6P for the same reason i own a LG G4 and i'm very dissapointed with the develop of the phone) since i come from the LG G3 that phone although it has a very limited amount of roms at the time it's now a little biger but nothing compare with any nexus... so for resume I'll go Nexus>LG G3>LG G4
Sorry for the bad english
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Thanks for the reply.
The H811 is unlocked, which is the only reason I was considering it. The rest of the US carrier G4's are locked and have basically no development going on. I prefer the idea of the nexus just based on software and support being that it's a Google phone, and it's going to be guaranteed updates for quite a while, I just am concerned that since I cannot see any of the nexus phones in person currently (Besides the original Nexus 6 which are in some stores) the only way I'd have to see the phone is to buy it, play with it, then return it if I dislike it, which I prefer not to deal with. The newer Nexus phones aren't in stores here in the US besides one store Best Buy which is just getting them, but I was told today that they likely wouldn't get a display model, just boxed up ones to sell.
I'm probably over thinking the fact that I need a removable battery or memory card. It's just nice to not have to worry about not having it.
Blahages said:
Thanks for the reply.
The H811 is unlocked, which is the only reason I was considering it. The rest of the US carrier G4's are locked and have basically no development going on. I prefer the idea of the nexus just based on software and support being that it's a Google phone, and it's going to be guaranteed updates for quite a while, I just am concerned that since I cannot see any of the nexus phones in person currently (Besides the original Nexus 6 which are in some stores) the only way I'd have to see the phone is to buy it, play with it, then return it if I dislike it, which I prefer not to deal with. The newer Nexus phones aren't in stores here in the US besides one store Best Buy which is just getting them, but I was told today that they likely wouldn't get a display model, just boxed up ones to sell.
I'm probably over thinking the fact that I need a removable battery or memory card. It's just nice to not have to worry about not having it.
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I have h811 and we will have the same roms available to unlocked h815 variants as soon as T-Mobile updates us to marshmallow...cm13 is going to be available to h811 as soon as we get the bootstack that will come with the update...also we have a few great kernel devs that will more than likely release an h811 version with that release
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I have h811 and we will have the same roms available to unlocked h815 variants as soon as T-Mobile updates us to marshmallow...cm13 is going to be available to h811 as soon as we get the bootstack that will come with the update...also we have a few great kernel devs that will more than likely release an h811 version with that release
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That's what I was asking about... Why do they need T-Mobile to release an update? I mean obviously it's easier if they do, but is it required or is it just majorly helpful? I'm asking because my current phone this whole "bootstack" stuff was never needed for developers to release updates. I'm just looking for that clarification to make sure that there's not some new requirement with this device that I'm not used to seeing that would make it unlikely to see development in the future, say if LG or T-Mobile decided to not update to the next version of Android after Marshmallow, if we'd be stuck on Marshmallow, or if the development could keep going like it did on the phone I currently have, where the manufacturer stopped development on Kitkat, but people are still releasing even current marshmallow builds.
I would not buy the G4 again.
For some reason it struggles with games.
Qi Wireless Charging is very very very wonky.
Locked bootloaders. Rooting requires rooting a system image and flashing the entire 3.5gb image. LG has closed this loophole in the V10. So I think our days are limited. No custom roms, custom recovery, or much community support.
I love the phone itself and thankfully the stock roms are great but once updates cease, the device will be stuck.
I would pick a LG Nexus 6 or the Hauwei Nexus. I've honestly thought about going with Hauwei but the 6" screen is tablet territory IMO and too big for 1 handed operation. The 5.2" LG Nexus would be a better fit.
I love the TapOn/Off built in ability, but I may be looking at other options next time.
player911 said:
Locked bootloaders. Rooting requires rooting a system image and flashing the entire 3.5gb image. LG has closed this loophole in the V10. So I think our days are limited. No custom roms, custom recovery, or much community support.
I love the phone itself and thankfully the stock roms are great but once updates cease, the device will be stuck.
I would pick a LG Nexus 6 or the Hauwei Nexus. I've honestly thought about going with Hauwei but the 6" screen is tablet territory IMO and too big for 1 handed operation. The 5.2" LG Nexus would be a better fit.
I love the TapOn/Off built in ability, but I may be looking at other options next time.
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Okay, if that's the reason why the v10 doesn't have any real development going on, that would make sense. I wasn't aware that that was a requirement. Figured it was just that there wasn't enough knowledgeable people working on it yet.
I got a clarification from a friend as to the bootloader question... I guess normally an updated bootloader has been needed moving from 5.x to 6.x, which doesn't appear to have been needed with the GS3 I have... I guess people must have rigged something, because updating the bootloader was never a step with that. He has a Nexus 5 (the orig one) and said he's had to flash a boot loader several times for this reason.
i'm too lazy to read all of this, but i was planing a long period of time to buy the G4, but i found some hardware cons and problems in it as a result of my deep search on youtube , gsmarena users reviews, xda forums and more.
The one problem that made me decide not to buy it and not to think about it any more is the self-die / bootloop hardware problem. read about it on xda bro. Adding this big possibility to the other cons (hardware + some software complexity) made this deal very risky as it will be my second device within less than a year.
i don't know if i'm right and made a good decision, i was believe in this device and i love it ..