cAMERA IMAGES bcome very grainy ON ZOOMING A LITTLE IS IT NORMAL FOR THIS PONE IS THERE ANY SOLUTION FOR IT BCOZ ITS TOO BAD FOR A 13MP PHONE!!!and is there any way to improve camera in low light?
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cAMERA IMAGES bcome very grainy ON ZOOMING A LITTLE IS IT NORMAL FOR THIS PONE IS THERE ANY SOLUTION FOR IT BCOZ ITS TOO BAD FOR A 13MP PHONE!!!and is there any way to improve camera in low light?
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what u mean by +1
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I meant i was wondering about the same thing. The detail in the pics clicked by ZL is as poor as a 2MP camera.
Same here. I did a comparison with nexus 5 camera and zl loses out completely in every shot, in details, in colours, in night shots moreover display is very poor
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kumar abhishek said:
Same here. I did a comparison with nexus 5 camera and zl loses out completely in every shot, in details, in colours, in night shots moreover display is very poor
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I am on 4.2 versión .244 and camera its really nice. much better than 4.3 and 4.2 versión .67
is there any way to inprove the camera
Same question here. I bought a Sony Xperia ZL to my gf as a present, and she is disappointed with the camera quality, especially in a low-light or buildings. Shots taken outside in the daylight seem fine...
Any advice is appreciated.
Same problem too. Looks like, Sony installed terrible camera sensor on ZL model which have big (red on my camera) noise if sensor gets no light/very low light. On my camera red noise converting to white noise when i get shots.
i think its normal in zl chek this review buddy http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_zl-review-923.php camera is bad in low light
for me camera of ZL is decent here is a sample of my pic, without editing just touch focus on stock camera
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for me camera of ZL is decent here is a sample of my pic, without editing just touch focus on stock camera
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You are in 4.2 camera, rigth? because that image is so good. In 4.3 I have notice a worse image quality in this firmware, even in perfect ligth condition the imagen is noisy, a really bad image processing, I'm very disappointed by that.
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You are in 4.2 camera, rigth? because that image is so good. In 4.3 I have notice a worse image quality in this firmware, even in perfect ligth condition the imagen is noisy, a really bad image processing, I'm very disappointed by that.
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has any1 chkeed it on cm11?
maxomen said:
You are in 4.2 camera, rigth? because that image is so good. In 4.3 I have notice a worse image quality in this firmware, even in perfect ligth condition the imagen is noisy, a really bad image processing, I'm very disappointed by that.
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no im on 4.3
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no im on 4.3
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actually camera is awsom in good light but bad in low light can u upload a pic of low light condition
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no im on 4.3
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In the image's details I can see 10.3.1.A.2.67 (4.2). In my experience when I update from 4.2 to 4.3 I could compare between both version and the difference is notable.
you should shearch this in Google:
How to take better shots with your Sony Xperia Z? Use Burst mode!
maxomen said:
In the image's details I can see 10.3.1.A.2.67 (4.2). In my experience when I update from 4.2 to 4.3 I could compare between both version and the difference is notable.
you should shearch this in Google:
How to take better shots with your Sony Xperia Z? Use Burst mode!
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the best camera quality is the 4.2 versión .244 not .67 this is why im on 4.2
danieldp1990 said:
the best camera quality is the 4.2 versión .244 not .67 this is why im on 4.2
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Do you know if there a way to use de .244 camera without downgrade 4.3?.
Sorry for my basic english.
maxomen said:
Do you know if there a way to use de .244 camera without downgrade 4.3?.
Sorry for my basic english.
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i think we should uninstall updates and find the apk of reqd version of cam
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2221351 has any1 tried this
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how is the camera on this phone after the kitkat update
lg-sony-htc-samsung-apple said:
how is the camera on this phone after the kitkat update
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Sh*tty
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Sh*tty
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Lol Blunt.
I installed the newer Motorola camera from my Droid Mini onto the M. Everything seems to work for the most part, except the screen gets jumpy and glitchy when scrolling the settings wheel. It takes photos much faster. It was taking several seconds to take a photo with the original camera, so the newer Moto camera is a huge improvement in that regard. I don't know if the image quality is any better or worse, looked kind of bad to me, but I thought the photos looked kind of bad with the original camera ever since KK anyway. Might just be because indoors and not enough light though.
hey i am thinking about getting this
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Lol Blunt.
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Thank you for your reply can u please tell me ****tu in comparson to any other phone u used
thanks for thevdetailed response
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I installed the newer Motorola camera from my Droid Mini onto the M. Everything seems to work for the most part, except the screen gets jumpy and glitchy when scrolling the settings wheel. It takes photos much faster. It was taking several seconds to take a photo with the original camera, so the newer Moto camera is a huge improvement in that regard. I don't know if the image quality is any better or worse, looked kind of bad to me, but I thought the photos looked kind of bad with the original camera ever since KK anyway. Might just be because indoors and not enough light though.
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Can u tell me how it compares to any other phone u used if any
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Can u tell me how it compares to any other phone u used if any
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The Razr M's camera/sensor is terrible. My pictures come out foggy, grainy, and ever since KitKat...pinkish. Using Moto's new camera or Google's camera, my pictures don't come out with the pinkish hue, but there still terrible. My Galaxy Nexus takes better photos, and that camera sucks... bad.
Not as good as my iPhone 4S or Droid Mini. I just took a few indoor pics and they look out-of-focus and grainy. I don't know if they would look better with the stock camera since the new Moto camera replaces the stock camera app so I can't try both easily. Stock camera was just too damn slow to be useful. Moment is gone before it takes the pic. I feel like once upon a Jellybean, the phone used to take decent pics, and stock camera wasn't nearly as slow. I have a few pics that came out pretty decent that I was sure were taken on the M long ago, on JB. Granted, they were all outdoor pics.
I think even on KK, the pics it takes might be better than the Kyocera Hydro Elite I had (surprisingly bad for 8MP) and way better pics than the LG Lucid 2 which had the worst 5MP camera considering its speed/performance level was close to the RAZR M. Usually you only see cameras as bad as the Lucid 2's on cheap plastic single-core prepaid phones that come in blister packs.
thank u all very much i pressed it
Well after bith of your opinions and the revuews i read i think i will be looking else were for a phone fot work i need a cheap phone with a decent camera oh well thinking aout a used s3 or a used 4s thanks again guys if i could just strech for a used droid dna hope to see you all in anither forum
Hmmm, well, I guess the pics are not TOO awful.
Took a couple pics of my car with the newer Moto camera (don't make fun, it's an antique, lol). One in the morning, one in the afternoon. I think old camera probably took better pics, but was unbearably slow and the newer one takes pics instantly. I had HDR and spot focus turned off.
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I've seen better, but I've also seen much worse.
Which moto camera do you have ATTACK? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380199 or one different... Really looking to replace the stock one
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Which moto camera do you have ATTACK? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380199 or one different... Really looking to replace the stock one
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I pulled it from a Moto X system dump. This isn't the latest version, but it works well. The latest version is very glitchy on our phone.
MOTO CAMERA & GALLERY
AOSP CAMERA ONLY
NEXUS 5 CAMERA & GALLERY
Hey Guys! We Know Moto g4 Plus And All Variants Has launched,Post Your Best Camera Shots Which You Took In Your Moto g4 Plus..Let See How It Goes And Tell About Your Camera Settings While You Were Taking Your Shot So That If Other Liked Your Pics So that they Can Use Your Settings and Take Good Photos.:good:
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Enviado desde mi Moto G (4) mediante Tapatalk
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Enviado desde mi Moto G (4) mediante Tapatalk
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Thats awsome dude
My try with professional mode!
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My try with professional mode!
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Nice... makes me jealous... but still waiting for the 32/3 model.
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Nice... makes me jealous... but still waiting for the 32/3 model.
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Same here
http://imgur.com/HIytgDu
original image, without any effects, 4:3 format
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Wow, great, even the bird looks good. Drat... waiting until the device comes available... not even announced over here, only the tiny 16G versions. As if Motorola doesn't want to take cash from people who want a way to heavy phone over here. :silly:
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Wow, great, even the bird looks good. Drat... waiting until the device comes available... not even announced over here, only the tiny 16G versions. As if Motorola doesn't want to take cash from people who want a way to heavy phone over here. :silly:
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yeah but the phone does have heating issues
this review is perfect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrNeiPBJ7uY
The Moto G4 Plus' camera is indeed very good. Here is a macro shot of a fruit and I have also attached the same pic taken with my Galaxy S6 for comparison. More photos coming soon
Moto G
Galaxy S6
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its not in english but look at all the amazing pictures they took in this spanish review:
http://www.elandroidelibre.com/2016/05/moto-g4-plus-analisis.html
macros and daylight pictures.
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The Moto G4 Plus' camera is indeed very good. Here is a macro shot of a fruit and I have also attached the same pic taken with my Galaxy S6 for comparison. More photos coming soon
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nice brother..how to take macro shot.can u tell ur camera settings..
Full auto
A few more,
I cannot recommend this camera more for its ability to take macro shots. HDR is a hit or miss, usually works alright though.
Extremely low/mixed light
(Muse Concert FTW btw)
morgenman42 said:
A few more,
I cannot recommend this camera more for its ability to take macro shots. HDR is a hit or miss, usually works alright though.
Extremely low/mixed light
(Muse Concert FTW btw)
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Nice shot bro but i dint understand what u say (cannot recommend) u mean we zhould not buy
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Nice shot bro but i dint understand what u say (cannot recommend) u mean we zhould not buy
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I said I couldn't recommend it more, which means I highly recommend it for that.
If you want a good camera, get it .
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I said I couldn't recommend it more, which means I highly recommend it for that.
If you want a good camera, get it .
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R u not facing the overheating issue that causes camera ui lag n fc if used for more than 10 mins? Because a lot of people, including me, are not able to use the camera app over a prolonged period of time due to the issue...
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heating issue lot in this mobile?
Share your photos here in this thread! We all know the camera is the weak link of this phone. However it is capable of taking good images if you ignore the absence of sharpness or accept the heavy noise reduction. Behind all of that are images that generally are well exposed with good dynamic range and natural colors.
I'll start. All photos shared here directly from camera without any kind of editing to give a fair picture of the phone (no pun intended).
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Tried the panorama function this morning for the first time.
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Tried the panorama function this morning for the first time.
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I do notice the noise which is a weakness of the sensor, but you have some real talent behind the lens! Some of these images are simply amazing!
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I do notice the noise which is a weakness of the sensor, but you have some real talent behind the lens! Some of these images are simply amazing!
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Thank you very much! Yeah images get noisy but colors seems to be just fine so I can live with it. The subjects are what matter anyway not sharpness or something although it's a bonus. But it doesn't make a photo "better". It's pretty fun to shot with this camera it's very responsive.
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Thank you very much! Yeah images get noisy but colors seems to be just fine so I can live with it. The subjects are what matter anyway not sharpness or something although it's a bonus. But it doesn't make a photo "better". It's pretty fun to shot with this camera it's very responsive.
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Mi ?
My HDR collection:
http://imgur.com/a/kX9ht
http://imgur.com/a/R7cIo
Here's an album I did when I break down the performance of the camera
Can someone try with hdr+ using Google camera!
It's doing wonders for other snapdragon phones
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Can someone try with hdr+ using Google camera!
It's doing wonders for other snapdragon phones
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Here are some I took last month, sorry for not full size I just re-downloaded them from my Facebook since don't have originals anymore.
https://imgur.com/a/3PsgX
Thanks
How do u rate it using hdr+ ?
It's really awesome!
Especially if you shoot in RAW and use Lightroom or Snapseed to retouch the photos it can really be impressive.
Pics taken with the hdr+ on and flash off.
Using google camera hdr+ for a whole month and it takes great pics
valerio.tosti said:
Pics taken with the hdr+ on and flash off.
Using google camera hdr+ for a whole month and it takes great pics
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What's there in the second photo though?
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What's there in the second photo though?
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That with the green lights its my router and the red blue lights is my dogs gps.
Haha
What's the settings to use with the latest Google cam mod? I can't seems to get hdr+ and raw to work after upgrading to v4.4. Thanks in advance.
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so it doesnt look terrible. I just got one, coming in the mail soon...I don't want to miss out on baby pictures. How about videos, are they okay?
As asked above, what is the best camera I should be using - the stock one or something else?
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so it doesnt look terrible. I just got one, coming in the mail soon...I don't want to miss out on baby pictures. How about videos, are they okay?
As asked above, what is the best camera I should be using - the stock one or something else?
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I am currently using Arnova 8.1 port and it works flawlessly.
Truth be told I have used its portrait mode on a baby and the results are magnificent.
Imho, the MIUI camera is rubbish compared to what gcam gets from the sensor.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Sony Xperia XZ Premium come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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This phone is only good at well lighted condition but in low light it's horrendous even the video is very grainy. But i admire it with its capability in shooting moving objects no blur.
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Bar Beach; Newcastle, NSW Australia. The XZP takes a darned nice photo.
the frustrating thing is, the hardware is capable of so much more, its really just the post processing that lets it down, a finer degree of control would be more useful or even allow RAW so we can do the editing later.
low light shots are a different matter, that's probably an optical limitation more then anything else. a CMOS / CCD is only ever as good as the optics the light passes through.
I'm very disappointed with the low detail of the camera.
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the frustrating thing is, the hardware is capable of so much more, its really just the post processing that lets it down, a finer degree of control would be more useful or even allow RAW so we can do the editing later.
low light shots are a different matter, that's probably an optical limitation more then anything else. a CMOS / CCD is only ever as good as the optics the light passes through.
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I'm very disappointed with the low detail of the camera.
Unfortunately, I can not attach the link. I have few messages.
I think best camera ever.only missing front flash
I yesterday tested 4K video recording and its very very nice. Here is video direct from mobile its not edited on PC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkxrTBy7LNQ
Xzp have the best camera
Shot with the Sony xzp using auto mode and placing the phone on the table on a night out with friends . DXO MARK FAIL.
The new analyst dxomark david work for cupertino, is a apple fanboy and troll.
Dxomark was in this summer working in palo alto (,usa) cupertino base and designing new web, new protocols etc.
figo_rulz11 said:
Shot with the Sony xzp using auto mode and placing the phone on the table on a night out with friends . DXO MARK FAIL.
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that is really great I have the same phone
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Shot with the Sony xzp using auto mode and placing the phone on the table on a night out with friends . DXO MARK FAIL.
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Can u attach original pictures somewere else, those are resizes looks great but i do like the to see original ones.
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Here are some pictures taken by me!
ps. the first one had some camera filter on.. and the last one was a panorama
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Here are some pictures taken by me!
ps. the first one had some camera filter on.. and the last one was a panorama
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Oh wow the 3rd an 4th ones look great. I dont see how people can complain about the camera on any mobile device honestly. I came from an Xperia Z2 which had a phenomenal camera I was really impressed with it. The fact I could flash cyberian camera mod just made it even better. That gave me the ISO sensitivity equivalent to our XZP. The mod allowd for the Z3 to support 25600 ISO which I believe is higher than out XZP.
Just check out some of the photos I took on my Z2 here on my G+ page: https://plus.google.com/116272109758114321506
Completely satisfied with just that and I know the XZP will snap photos better. Lets just face it though, the XZP and ever other phone are just phones so youll never get anything like a DSLR but maybe something close. I think alot of people need to appreciate what phones are capeable of now. Especially those at dxomark. They also need to realise that they are just phones once only able to call.
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Here are some pictures taken by me!
ps. the first one had some camera filter on.. and the last one was a panorama
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Furthermore proof that dxomark was paid by Apple and Samsung, giving it an 83 and then you look at this? I would think that was taken on an expensive DSLR!
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Shot with the Sony xzp using auto mode and placing the phone on the table on a night out with friends . DXO MARK FAIL.
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Amazing mate, the colors the blur the contrast, thumbs up!
Oreo update helps immensely in low light, my xzp seems to be using 2000iso now instead of cranking it to 3200 or 6400. More grain but less smearing. Burst looks to do a good job as well, although you cant use it in low light for shutter speed reasons.
Pictures arent perfect or anywhere near note 8 level, but they are more than useable now in low light.
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Bar Beach; Newcastle, NSW Australia. The XZP takes a darned nice photo.
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Hey - I know that seagull! I say hello every morning as I run past there!
Hope you enjoyed our fine city!
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Simply superb
---------- Post added at 02:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:36 AM ----------
As an ex owner of Nokia 1020 I am quite happy with the new SONY IMX400 sensor performance as I am with my older IMX300 sensor in Xperia Z5. The later still does superb pics in daytime with 23MP manual mode.
EDIT: THIS THREAD IS NOW OBSOLETE. PLEASE GO TO https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-a70/how-to/gcam-arnova8g2-mod-config-files-t3947847 FOR THE BEST A70 GCAM BUILDS
I tried many Gcam apks and I couldn't get Night mode to work on any of them.
Download this Gcam mod to get full working night mode on the A70:
MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V2e
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=1395089523397887533
Make sure you make a few necessary changes in app settings by following this video:
https://youtu.be/0cRMt39V8Po
Getting great low light shots with this mod.
Credit goes to gizmoddict channel for finding apk and instructions.
another version with working night mode by default https://cloud.mail.ru/public/LZhF/Nqa6rZ7gy
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another version with working night mode by default https://cloud.mail.ru/public/LZhF/Nqa6rZ7gy
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It's not working
Another working version (or maybe the same one?) is documented here:
https://www.ytechb.com/download-google-camera-6-1-for-samsung-galaxy-a50-a70/
ContentsMayVary said:
Another working version (or maybe the same one?) is documented here:
https://www.ytechb.com/download-google-camera-6-1-for-samsung-galaxy-a50-a70/
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Have you tried this one yourself? My A70 is arriving next week.
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Have you tried this one yourself? My A70 is arriving next week.
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I tried one above and night site works if a little out focused but that's probably down to my shakey hand Lol just followed the settings tweak and yer it's working
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Any gcam mod with wide-angle lens support by any chance?
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Any gcam mod with wide-angle lens support by any chance?
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Think the pixel 3/xl only has front facing wide angle lense if your referring to rear camera then I doubt it but it might be when pixel 4 releases I'm sure that may have rear wide angle seems the trend in 2019
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Think the pixel 3/xl only has front facing wide angle lense if your referring to rear camera then I doubt it but it might be when pixel 4 releases I'm sure that may have rear wide angle seems the trend in 2019
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Yeah but I saw some mods for LG phones as well as some others that support the wide angle sensor in the back, tried it on my A70 - couldn't switch to the wide angle. Oh well, maybe with time someone will port it properly.
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Yeah but I saw some mods for LG phones as well as some others that support the wide angle sensor in the back, tried it on my A70 - couldn't switch to the wide angle. Oh well, maybe with time someone will port it properly.
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Hopefully that would be good [emoji106]
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Is it possible to set de Gcam as Default Camera, so you can use it under tapping the power button twice ?
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Is it possible to set de Gcam as Default Camera, so you can use it under tapping the power button twice?
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Snoete said:
Is it possible to set de Gcam as Default Camera, so you can use it under tapping the power button twice ?
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No.
As i came to know that Image stabilization is not there in a70, can it be fixed with software update by samsung ?
Can someone post some (uncompressed) pictures, I would be very thankful!
I was fully committed to buy this phone, but am now having second thoughts, because of mediocre camera review scores.
CyberOvca said:
Can someone post some (uncompressed) pictures, I would be very thankful!
I was fully committed to buy this phone, but am now having second thoughts, because of mediocre camera review scores.
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I don't have Gcam samples to show only stock camera photos. These have however been edited by me in the Photos app some of them more than others. Gcam pictures have less megapixels but have more details in them specially in low light but colors can be weird with Gcam and the dynamic range is not good with it compared to stock. I have not found a Gcam version that gives me better photos to work with than the stock app really. Gcam needs to be optimized for the A70. Now it's inconsistent. Here are some samples what stock camera is capable of if you know how to edit photos as they can look bland straight from camera. Mixed 12mp and 32mp photos. Full size can be downloaded.
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Nice photos!
Wow amazing photos can't believe the crappy A70 camera can produce such good shots even with photoshop lol
dannejanne said:
I don't have Gcam samples to show only stock camera photos. These have however been edited by me in the Photos app some of them more than others. Gcam pictures have less megapixels but have more details in them specially in low light but colors can be weird with Gcam and the dynamic range is not good with it compared to stock. I have not found a Gcam version that gives me better photos to work with than the stock app really. Gcam needs to be optimized for the A70. Now it's inconsistent. Here are some samples what stock camera is capable of if you know how to edit photos as they can look bland straight from camera. Mixed 12mp and 32mp photos. Full size can be downloaded.
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beautiful, incredible what makes a good edition, it hurts that they do not come out that way with just focus and shoot
Sufyan3D said:
Wow amazing photos can't believe the crappy A70 camera can produce such good shots even with photoshop lol
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yah .. true