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How good is the camera?

I am thinking of getting a Defy as a free upgrade to my Hero. Reviews of camera seem mixed but general impression is that it's not brilliant, especially in low light. Interested to hear the views of people here.

You can compare the photos from defy with various other phones, including N8, iPhone4 on gsmarena site. Just click on some of the latest reviews, doesnt matter which phone, and go to the camera section of the review. There is a photo compare tool.

Thanks. That was helpful but I am more interested in the low light performance.

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Thanks. That was helpful but I am more interested in the low light performance.
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I was pleasantly suprised with the quality of the flash. up to a metre or 2 it is very effective and doesn't wash out the photo like some others. All in all I am pleases with the camera - thats just my opinion though.

Thanks. I am almost certainly going to get one. The nagging doubt in the back of my mind is the speaker issue. Difficult to know how much of a problem it really is. People who don't have the issue (obviously) don't post to forums

None of those Cell Cameras are that cool in low light compared to a DSLR. What would really help is a camera app that writes out a dng file so that one can properly posprocess this in say Lightroom/Photoshop/Noiseware.
Just for completeness shake, the camera module seems to be a MT9PT012 ...

Higgsy said:
I was pleasantly suprised with the quality of the flash. up to a metre or 2 it is very effective and doesn't wash out the photo like some others. All in all I am pleases with the camera - thats just my opinion though.
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IMHO - flash and camera is pretty awful. Here's a shot with flash, I even gave it +20 brightness in Gimp:
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Then again, I might be spoiled by these babies:
Ironically - That was shot with my HTC Desire
I guess the Defy's camera is just below cell-phone average. It should't be your only camera, but for "Hey this looks fun!" shots it'll do fine.

I really like my defy but, honestly, the camera is not the best part.
Also the display looks not so brilliant as the desire's one.
I'm not saying they're bad, just they're not wonderful, but considering defy's price it's absolutely fair.

Well, one thing none of the others can do is H2Oing it. I just filmed in water, definitely better results than any other phone attempting the same

I'm using the Camera360 app. There is a filter called "Effect enhancement". If i you this one, the pictures look better - the ones taken in short range. Ok, they do look a bit "artifical", but for me its ok. There is a "free" version of that app for trying out...
The Defy is not the first Android i bought, but it will be the first Android, which will not be sold again. I really like this phone...
Maybe there will be some kind of camera-optimization. Until then, i will take my digi-cam for "more important" pictures to make.
Best regards
Stefan

Here is sample picture, resized, with flash and taken with camera360 app.

This was taken with a Galaxy S
This was taken with the Defy, different day so not a direct comparison. The weather was worse and it was cloudy. Hope this give you an idea of comparison though.
Defy on macro with flash
Defy with macro no flash. Shows good detail.
thanks

Photos aren't that great but they're not awful. I do find that the built in editing (kodak perfect touch) does an excellent job though. The macro mode and color reproduction aren't as good as my vibrant. But overall im satisfied.
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disturkis4u said:
Photos aren't that great but they're not awful. I do find that the built in editing (kodak perfect touch) does an excellent job though. The macro mode and color reproduction aren't as good as my vibrant. But overall im satisfied.
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yeah I agree that kodak perfect touch enhancement works well

What about Videos in 720p ?
Anyone succeed to take videos in 720p with Froyo 2.2 ?

have you tryed the kodak perfect touch option?? It's excelent! for night pics, and remember to use the "night" mode in dark places
imo, It's good++

I took pictures with it for the first time today. I did not like the quality of the pictures. My first impressions:
Pros: The LED flash is bright and puts my old BB Curve to shame. You could use it to blind a night time attacker if you could instantly turn it on with an external button.
The interface to take pictures is pretty good and easy to use.
Cons:
-Colors are muddy and off color even when shot outdoors.
-Colors with the flash are not automatically corrected and show up with the blue/white color cast of the LED flash.
-Color space compression is very noticable with banding visible under various conditions.
-Slow to take a picture because it does not focus until you click the onscreen button to take the photo.
I thought video was better on balance than the camera but it is rather poor in low light (as expected). I hope that I will learn to get better results with it after more testing but I'm glad it's not a primary reason for me to own the Defy.
-felipe

What about 720p videos?
Could someone try it?with froyo??

I found the camera pretty good in comparaison of my old phone.
But there's a hudge miss on the native camera app: you cannot change the JPG compression and by default it's very very compressed! Some have their 5Mpxl pictures that takes around 300kB (it should be 1.5MB at least!).
Maybe if someone know a way to change this settings it would be nice for improving the quality of the final picture

I really like the Vignette app for the camera, it's old school styles go rather well with the "performance" of the camear

Have we gotten any kind of camera test shots yet?

Still looking for some comparison photos of the NG camera. The 5 MP camera is a bit offputting, but for years the iPhone camera was running at less MP and always seemed to have a better sensor and produce better pictures, i'm hoping that's the case right now. The camera and the size are really my two biggest concerns with the device right now.....

Droid life found some pictures from it back in October
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Something like that for example?
Test Pictures
They were made with a sample after the release show. Don't know if they are equal to the final product or not.

Engadget and Thisismynext did test shots between GN and the iPhone4S.
Not gonna be a lot of in-depth tests until review units go out.

The post about how megapixels don't mean crap in terms of picture quality needs to be made a sticky on this forum. I'm tired of it coming up. Take a Nikon dedicated camera that taps out at 5MP and compare it to a phone at 8MP and see which looks better.

If you have Google+ account, find Tim Bray and follow him.
He is one of the Android developer.
And he is testing the GN camera right now during his trip, posted in his Google+.
I saw the photos are amazing!
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You're right the nonshaky ones look good. I'm not stunned but I would say it's really solid work for a phone camera.

I'm not impressed. The night shot looked sharp for a night photo but the rest... no visible improvement compared to my Galaxy S. So much for sacrificing MP for quality.

ejkeebler said:
Still looking for some comparison photos of the NG camera. The 5 MP camera is a bit offputting, but for years the iPhone camera was running at less MP and always seemed to have a better sensor and produce better pictures, i'm hoping that's the case right now. The camera and the size are really my two biggest concerns with the device right now.....
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Comparison photos of the camera on the Nexus? Sure!
This is the Galaxy Nexus camera:
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And this is the iPhone 4 camera:
Compare away!

SomeGuyDude said:
The post about how megapixels don't mean crap in terms of picture quality needs to be made a sticky on this forum. I'm tired of it coming up. Take a Nikon dedicated camera that taps out at 5MP and compare it to a phone at 8MP and see which looks better.
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+1 I'm actually excited to see what this camera can do. The 5 MP cam on this phone will probably blow the mytouch4g slides 8 MP away. Bottom line, galaxy nexus Is going to be one badass phone. Period.
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gogol said:
If you have Google+ account, find Tim Bray and follow him.
He is one of the Android developer.
And he is testing the GN camera right now during his trip, posted in his Google+.
I saw the photos are amazing!
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Not sure what you're seeing. None of those pictures are any better than what my Fascinate takes. They should have went ahead and used the GSII camera. Seems much better than this one.

Post pictures from your Galaxy Nexus!

Can't believe there isn't a thread for this yet! Post some pics taken with your gnex!

Wrong sub forum that's why!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352163
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republitarian said:
Wrong sub forum that's why!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1352163
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He's not asking for screenshots.
I took these in Zürich last week. These are straight off the phone, no compression, no editing.
EDIT: After many cries I resized the pictures, although I believe providing full sized pictures would give more of an accurate representation.
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No offense, but those are terrible pictures.

They actually don't look that bad when they're not at full size.

Yea umm, the next posters need to resize their pics before posting otherwise potential GNex owners might get the wrong impression.

Sorry, but I tend to agree with the other posters. Those pics are a horrible representation of the camera. I've taken much better night shots with the GNex, and I also have better night shots in Zurich that I took with my EVO a year or two ago. Awesome city though. The train station during Oktoberfest was very cool.
Edit - sorry, didn't mean to be so negative. I have to say that I've taken plenty bad pictures with dedicated point-and-shoots. I'm not really a photog type, but I have friends that are so I can honestly say nothing short of a nice DSLR and plenty of time playing with exposures, etc is going to get you a nice night shot. Even a very nice camera will take bad shots. Starting to ramble...that second pic is walking straight out of the train station though, right? Wow, it's very crowded. Anything in particular going on that night?

Are these any better?

Better, yes. Just got mine and I haven't taken a picture yet, but I'll miss the stellar camera in the SGS II. This is almost the same module as the Nexus S, correct? Perfectly usable camera in decent light.

After seeing shots from the GSII and owning a iPhone 4S... This thread saddens me. :/

Post your pictures, stop complaining.

haven't taken any pics outside yet but here is one indoors.
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Just a quick shot
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I haven't used the camera app on gnex much yet, but I took a quick look yesterday. I couldn't find anything in the menu to adjust the resolution or picture detail (e.g. fine, super fine) like there was on my Captivate. Is there any way to adjust that in the settings?

I haven't really had a chance to take many pictures yet.
This didn't really come out very well because of the lighting, the whole bottom half is just black

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This didn't really come out very well because of the lighting, the whole bottom half is just black
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well unless they've made a NDGrad for the Nexus, you're always going to get black unless you HDR a couple of different exposure shots together..

Pano shot from my Nexus

i've been meaning to go out and test the pano feature! did you take this with arms out stretched or in close to your body, and how did swivel around?
its not a bad little camera, it gives better results than my 3Gs did

[GO]Bobster said:
i've been meaning to go out and test the pano feature! did you take this with arms out stretched or in close to your body, and how did swivel around?
its not a bad little camera, it gives better results than my 3Gs did
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arms stretched out and just swivelled round
to be brutally honest, the nexus camera doesn't cut it. The SGS2 and iPhone 4 camera is much much better. I remember when I first got the SGS2 the camera was very poor, and it improved drastically with firmware updates, so I am hoping for the same with the Nexus.

winwiz said:
arms stretched out and just swivelled round
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cool, thanks
winwiz said:
to be brutally honest, the nexus camera doesn't cut it. The SGS2 and iPhone 4 camera is much much better. I remember when I first got the SGS2 the camera was very poor, and it improved drastically with firmware updates, so I am hoping for the same with the Nexus.
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interesting, i hardly ever take photographs with my phone, but im quite happy with the results from the Nexus for a camera phone, and if they can improve it with updates over time, all the better..

The camera worse than S3 ?

I've noticed that some people complain about the poor quality of Note 2 photos.
http://www.iphones.ru/iNotes/253676
Is it true that camera worse than the Galaxy S3?

On an iPhone website, they won't tell you otherwise. Try a more objective source, like gsmarena and the likes...
f.

The Note II takes pretty amazing photos IMO.
Check this album out! http://www.flickr.com/photos/magnus3dphoto/8060042512/in/photostream/

does anybody know if samsung again used different cam modules in production?
at least with sgs2 there were 3 different manufacturers (and thus different firmwares), guess it would be the same here!
what i've seen so far is that the pink blob in the middle of the picture is almost gone, which is a huge improvement! don't
know if they fixed it with the firmware or hardware though...
update:
the second note2 i recieved today has a slightly pink blob, so what i can say the quality of the cams seem to differ in a same
way then the screens. one screen of my 2 units has yellow tint, the second one not!

I don't now but I didn't have pink spot in the middle of the camera any more with GN2.

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On an iPhone website, they won't tell you otherwise. Try a more objective source, like gsmarena and the likes...
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It is just an example. And here S3 in better than iphone 5 and Note 2.

Oh God, why? iPhone website? Kidding right? The camera is just amazing!

I wouldn't say that the camera is amazing...but it's pretty good.

I confirm that the camera is worse than SIII. I had both phones and SIII dominates in terms of picture quality. Although Note 2 has better exposition handling than SIII.

Well can't say about S3 but I had S2 and I might sound weird but the camera on Note 2 is poorer, overall.
One would really need to be a fanboy to call this camera amazing or have no idea about the word amazing.
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Recently read a review (Anandtech maybe?) that included a comparison of Note II vs S III picture quality. They did blind judging (no, the judges wern't blind, lol) of photos and videos taken by both phones. They were indistinguishable to the reviewers.

I can definitely say the camera isn't too impressive with pictures. Although it's amazing with video.
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I have only iPhone4 so i can only compare with it. For the picture quality, iPhone4 still better than Note 2 imo. But iPhone4 doesn't have so many setting options like Note 2 has.

Hello,
Before i bought this phone was using Xperia S. Right now i can see well the value of my ex Xperia S. Because with its 12 MP camera that was possible to capture amazing photos without no blurry and noisy.
I have to confess that Note 2 does not have a good camera. I do not know about S3 but i know it is worse and worser than Xperia..

Me coming from a photon,evo 3d and many other phones and have used an s3, the camera quality is no different between the s3 and the note 2 as they use the same cameras, maybe you guys aren't use to seeing a picture this blown up on a screen like the note, and that's why you claim it's bad?
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Hi ..im comming from sony xperia s ..dont loved it cuz the battery was suck and camera [email protected] all ..more megapixel doesnt mean better photos...my sony hsd a 12mp and my note2 8..but...there is a huge different...the note is much bettery at all..i cant remember that my sony did something better than my note 2. Btw..i advice everybode note to flash his phone..sometimes stock gives you better experience...i flashed every rom and kernel on sony xps. ...i wont touch my note 2 with roms e.t.c.

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Me coming from a photon,evo 3d and many other phones and have used an s3, the camera quality is no different between the s3 and the note 2 as they use the same cameras, maybe you guys aren't use to seeing a picture this blown up on a screen like the note, and that's why you claim it's bad?
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No, at least I don't give a damn how it looks on the phone. I transfer the files as soon as I can to my PC and see it there. The Note 2 camera is a below average camera.
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Hi ..im comming from sony xperia s ..dont loved it cuz the battery was suck and camera [email protected] all ..more megapixel doesnt mean better photos...my sony hsd a 12mp and my note2 8..but...there is a huge different...the note is much bettery at all..i cant remember that my sony did something better than my note 2. Btw..i advice everybode note to flash his phone..sometimes stock gives you better experience...i flashed every rom and kernel on sony xps. ...i wont touch my note 2 with roms e.t.c.
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You're only right about megapixel thing. Xperia S has a WAY better camera than Note 2. My friend has one and I often borrow it from him.
(I'm a semi pro photographer btw.)
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Best foto for me have nokia 808, but Note2 has too good quality photo

Most reviews give the N2 the better pic quality over the S3...I have both so I took a few pics on both under same settings, both outdoor and indoor, and to my eye I see no difference in either one, both look great. I though they both had the same hardware camera wise anyway?

Post your camera fw, mine is ZKFI07, so it says about different camera modules.
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Show us your photos taken with the Mi Mix

Share your photos here in this thread! We all know the camera is the weak link of this phone. However it is capable of taking good images if you ignore the absence of sharpness or accept the heavy noise reduction. Behind all of that are images that generally are well exposed with good dynamic range and natural colors.
I'll start. All photos shared here directly from camera without any kind of editing to give a fair picture of the phone (no pun intended).
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Tried the panorama function this morning for the first time.
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dannejanne said:
Tried the panorama function this morning for the first time.
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I do notice the noise which is a weakness of the sensor, but you have some real talent behind the lens! Some of these images are simply amazing!

satishp said:
I do notice the noise which is a weakness of the sensor, but you have some real talent behind the lens! Some of these images are simply amazing!
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Thank you very much! Yeah images get noisy but colors seems to be just fine so I can live with it. The subjects are what matter anyway not sharpness or something although it's a bonus. But it doesn't make a photo "better". It's pretty fun to shot with this camera it's very responsive.
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dannejanne said:
Thank you very much! Yeah images get noisy but colors seems to be just fine so I can live with it. The subjects are what matter anyway not sharpness or something although it's a bonus. But it doesn't make a photo "better". It's pretty fun to shot with this camera it's very responsive.
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Mi ?

My HDR collection:
http://imgur.com/a/kX9ht

http://imgur.com/a/R7cIo
Here's an album I did when I break down the performance of the camera

Can someone try with hdr+ using Google camera!
It's doing wonders for other snapdragon phones

vodovodo said:
Can someone try with hdr+ using Google camera!
It's doing wonders for other snapdragon phones
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Here are some I took last month, sorry for not full size I just re-downloaded them from my Facebook since don't have originals anymore.
https://imgur.com/a/3PsgX

Thanks
How do u rate it using hdr+ ?

It's really awesome!
Especially if you shoot in RAW and use Lightroom or Snapseed to retouch the photos it can really be impressive.

Pics taken with the hdr+ on and flash off.
Using google camera hdr+ for a whole month and it takes great pics

valerio.tosti said:
Pics taken with the hdr+ on and flash off.
Using google camera hdr+ for a whole month and it takes great pics
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What's there in the second photo though?

Kalisfura1001 said:
What's there in the second photo though?
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That with the green lights its my router and the red blue lights is my dogs gps.
Haha

What's the settings to use with the latest Google cam mod? I can't seems to get hdr+ and raw to work after upgrading to v4.4. Thanks in advance.

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so it doesnt look terrible. I just got one, coming in the mail soon...I don't want to miss out on baby pictures. How about videos, are they okay?
As asked above, what is the best camera I should be using - the stock one or something else?

saq333 said:
so it doesnt look terrible. I just got one, coming in the mail soon...I don't want to miss out on baby pictures. How about videos, are they okay?
As asked above, what is the best camera I should be using - the stock one or something else?
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I am currently using Arnova 8.1 port and it works flawlessly.
Truth be told I have used its portrait mode on a baby and the results are magnificent.
Imho, the MIUI camera is rubbish compared to what gcam gets from the sensor.