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Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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When it is rooted even if you try to use the OTA update it won't let you, while rooted, you could alternatively flash the update via ODIN w/ root support. Or try some of the sweet ROMs available , the reason I switched to a custom ROM because I was going to have to erase my phone anyway if I wanted to update, so I thought why not just try a custom ROM?
I use LiquidSmoothRC7, but if you want a more stock feel with touchwiz you can try Wicked, Wicked stays true to the "official stock ROMs" and just adds roots and tweaks the ROM to make it as stable as possible
If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section
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If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section
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OR you could listen to this dude
cobraboy85 said:
If you are rooted, with a custom recovery, there is absolutely no reason for you to be playing around with Odin or OTAs... your updates are available in the development section
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Actually there is. There are 10 partitions rewritten with the Odin and OTA update. Only 5 get rewritten if you flash via custom recovery, so you don't get the full update.
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zul8er said:
Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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go to doc's thread, flash his firmware update, reboot, then flash whatever JB ROM you desire. there is absolutely no need to ODIN your phone with the OTA fw, resetting your device completely. you just need to make sure you flash the latest firmware first before you flash a ROM that is based off the latest OTA
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go to doc's thread, flash his firmware update, reboot, then flash whatever JB ROM you desire. there is absolutely no need to ODIN your phone with the OTA fw, resetting your device completely. you just need to make sure you flash the latest firmware first before you flash a ROM that is based off the latest OTA
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I stayed on 4.0.4 with the base of UVLH2 and just clean installed JB roms so should I update the base? Or is it already updated?
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Towle said:
Actually there is. There are 10 partitions rewritten with the Odin and OTA update. Only 5 get rewritten if you flash via custom recovery, so you don't get the full update.
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Some of those 10 partitions that are getting rewritten are... for one, your recovery... so that makes 9 actually...
My point is, and I'm not trying to be argumentative in any way, merely objective, is that unless it is reformatting the ext4 partition to new file structure (for example) there should be no need to do this. I suppose I would ask somebody to define in depth "rewritten" and how exactly this is being done and why. Every single update we have had since the release of this device I have not once updated my own device with odin merely to put it back to stock. And I have run into zero issues. Seems like a waste of time to me unless there is something highly critical being restructured entirely. In the end, its all the same disk, and disk size for any given partition.
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neim81094 said:
I stayed on 4.0.4 with the base of UVLH2 and just clean installed JB roms so should I update the base? Or is it already updated?
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If you are on LH2, with that same baseband, I would go ahead and update your baseband via docs packaged update in his thread, and just reboot, then move on to the jelly bean updates. Do a factory reset through recovery before you flash the JB ROM tho since you are coming from a completely different version of android.
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Can I let the Tmobile Update download and flash if I am rooted on the stock ROM and have Clockwork recovery? I would use ota root keeper to disable root also before the update.
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If you want to avoid all the weird miscellaneous problems listed in the Q&A forum, update using Odin and the rooted rom in Docs' thread. If you choose not to use Odin do not be surprised if odd things happen.
Just stating my experience, I was rooted stock ics and ran the ota update. I was able to update, keep root and ran stock jelly bean without any problems at all.
Now I am running frosty jelly and still no problems at all. I am not saying for you to do it (dont want anyone blaming me) just stating that it can be done. Do whats most comfortable for you.
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If you want to avoid all the weird miscellaneous problems listed in the Q&A forum, update using Odin and the rooted rom in Docs' thread. If you choose not to use Odin do not be surprised if odd things happen.
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Again looking for some technical clarity here. Haven't had a single issue myself. With anything. And I have not factory odined my device once since I got it. It is not critical to do this, otherwise I would be suffering from "weird miscellaneous problems"
Hopin doc can jump in here and set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me you will be fine just updating your radios and then moving to the latest build (4.1.1) as long as you clear data before flashing your ROM of choice
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Again looking for some technical clarity here. Haven't had a single issue myself. With anything. And I have not factory odined my device once since I got it. It is not critical to do this, otherwise I would be suffering from "weird miscellaneous problems"
Hopin doc can jump in here and set me straight if I am wrong, but it seems to me you will be fine just updating your radios and then moving to the latest build (4.1.1) as long as you clear data before flashing your ROM of choice
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You could very well be correct. Not trying to debate you.
but....I am seeing thread after thread of issues. Based on experience I suggest using the full proof method. I have updated many phones using many different methods and never have problems, but apparently many have had issues.
I also hope Doc chimes in on this thread.
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You could very well be correct. Not trying to debate you.
but....I am seeing thread after thread of issues. Based on experience I suggest using the full proof method. I have updated many phones using many different methods and never have problems, but apparently many have had issues.
I also hope Doc chimes in on this thread.
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Totally dig it. And yeah, just want to know what exactly is being done differently in odin
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Totally dig it. And yeah, just want to know what exactly is being done differently in odin
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If I understand the process correctly
ODIN flashes the entire phone OS like the kernel, Rom, baseband, etc
Using recovery to flash only updates the Rom,recovery,boot,kernel
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neim81094 said:
If I understand the process correctly
ODIN flashes the entire phone OS like the kernel, Rom, baseband, etc
Using recovery to flash only updates the Rom,recovery,boot,kernel
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Sorry, I will clarify, I am curious to know why Odin is such a critical issue. I know how it works as far as it being a flashing tool
I am not sure maybe it's just preference and how much you want to use your computer and what how much you want to download etc
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I am not sure maybe it's just preference and how much you want to use your computer and what how much you want to download etc
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The file used to flash with Odin is much larger because it is a complete rom. The OTA is a patch that attempts to patch and modify existing files.
I basically said that on the last post not the one you quoted
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Finally got the time to Odin Route66 Jelly bean.
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Everything good?
I've searched, googled, read stickies, etc...
I have a US ATT S3 but when I got to About Phone and look at Build Number I don't have UCALEM or UCALG1 like all the posts say I should. Instead I have UCDMG2 which i can't find anywhere on this site.
My phone is about a year old (got it last december) and is 100% virgin. I've never modified it or even rooted it.
All i'm wanting to do is put Slimbean on it but following the how to guides isn't helping.
Even tried following the Noob guide stickied on the forums (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=18021600) but it too tells me that i should have a different build number than i do.
Is it possible to modify my UCDMG2?
MG2 was an OTA patch/update to Android 4.1.2 from UCDLK3. No official firmware package was ever released to any of the firmware sites. You can use CF-Autoroot to root (it will trip your flash counter but if your device is over a year old, it won't matter).
The ones you listed were the ones for Ice Cream Sandwich 4.0.4. UCDLK3 was the 4.1.1 update and as said above, UCDMG2 was the OTA update for 4.1.2. The reasons the guides ask for an older version, is because they are probably outdated, so the easiest way to root would be CF Auto Root which takes only about a minute.
Thanks guys. After rooted, is it safe to flash? Since searching showed me NOTHING about MG2 I'm a little skeptical.
Yes its completely safe and practically required for any 4.3 ROM.
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Yes its completely safe and practically required for any 4.3 ROM.
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Sorry for sounding dumb about this. Would any of these work?
Things were so much more uncomplicated on my Captivate and Inspire
After rooting and installing a custom recovery(I like twrp cause it reminds me of 4ext recovery), you should be able to flash away.
Just checked for updates as described in other threads and it found the latest 4.3 update. I have read both positive and negative responses to the update. Some found things they used in 4.1.2 that are being taken away. Some like the new features in 4.3. It will vary from person to person whether the ROM is better for them or not. Fact is, all devices (current and future) are moving forward.
Should I just install the update? Should I make a copy of my current setup with one of the recoveries, then odin back, and run triangle away?
Strange. I went ahead and updated. Even after doing two complete resets, I still have SU app from 4.1.2. I guess it carried the program during the upgrade process?
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Strange. I went ahead and updated. Even after doing two complete resets, I still have SU app from 4.1.2. I guess it carried the program during the upgrade process?
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it basically dirty flashed the new update over your 4.1.2. I honestly didn't care much about the KNOX boot loader since my warranty is already over. but, I find not having to flash devil kernel so much easier w/ less lag.
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it basically dirty flashed the new update over your 4.1.2. I honestly didn't care much about the KNOX boot loader since my warranty is already over. but, I find not having to flash devil kernel so much easier w/ less lag.
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Hopefully someone will develop something that resets the KNOX counter. Triangle worked for 4.1.2, but does not work in 4.3 for me.
BTW, what 4.3 ROMs do you like, since we have the new bootloader? I just installed TWRP and trying to decide on a ROM.
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Hopefully someone will develop something that resets the KNOX counter. Triangle worked for 4.1.2, but does not work in 4.3 for me.
BTW, what 4.3 ROMs do you like, since we have the new bootloader? I just installed TWRP and trying to decide on a ROM.
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Me, personally, I did like JediMasterX till' I ran into a bunch of problems. so I went to the At&T forum. & I downloaded DN3. Its an amazing ROM & the features are just spectacular.
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Me, personally, I did like JediMasterX till' I ran into a bunch of problems. so I went to the At&T forum. & I downloaded DN3. Its an amazing ROM & the features are just spectacular.
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Works on our T-Mobile without issue? I don't need Wifi calling.
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Works on our T-Mobile without issue? I don't need Wifi calling.
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exactly why I didn't care much for the T-Mobile ROMs. it works spectacular. w/ the new boot loader you won't have to flash devil kernel to get WiFi working. and there's no data drops. + we get the N3 features.
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exactly why I didn't care much for the T-Mobile ROMs. it works spectacular. w/ the new boot loader you won't have to flash devil kernel to get WiFi working. and there's no data drops. + we get the N3 features.
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Which of the three versions did you use? LTE edition?
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exactly why I didn't care much for the T-Mobile ROMs. it works spectacular. w/ the new boot loader you won't have to flash devil kernel to get WiFi working. and there's no data drops. + we get the N3 features.
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Can you please give us the link to the Rom you are using?
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I am installing DN3 and am in their installer. It asks me whether I want the N7105 version... or the i317 or i317M. I read to install the ATT version, but what's the difference in the M and non-M version?
So I have a question I hqvent been on in a while and last I checked the newest update came with a locked bootloader. I know it did for the s3. I liked the newest software on the s3 but I jus5 cant stand all that bloat and not having full control of my phone. That s3 was killing me. I just got my note2 back from samsung with a nice new screen and of coure they forgot to send the spen with it. Not that I use the stupid thing anyway but still come on. Anyway is the bootloader locked on this one also and how hard is that to get around?
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I am installing DN3 and am in their installer. It asks me whether I want the N7105 version... or the i317 or i317M. I read to install the ATT version, but what's the difference in the M and non-M version?
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theyre for different companies i believe. as how ours (T889) also has a T889v ( i think thats the right letter) version as its for a different conpany. I installed using the ATT one. there's really no difference because you're just going to flash a tmobile modem over it.
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Can you please give us the link to the Rom you are using?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2541860
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So I have a question I hqvent been on in a while and last I checked the newest update came with a locked bootloader. I know it did for the s3. I liked the newest software on the s3 but I jus5 cant stand all that bloat and not having full control of my phone. That s3 was killing me. I just got my note2 back from samsung with a nice new screen and of coure they forgot to send the spen with it. Not that I use the stupid thing anyway but still come on. Anyway is the bootloader locked on this one also and how hard is that to get around?
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yes the boot loader is locked. I don't believe there's a workaround it yet. but I'm even sure. you can scroll around through the threads and see if there is. what I did was just update it anyways and tripped my KNOX boot loader to ox1. I didn't have warranty anyways so I'm not tripping over it. and then I just rooted it, flashed cwm and started to flash ROMs.
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Thank you. So is the root process the same? Usually i flash twrp with odin then install su permissions then I flash away. Or do I have to use another method? Really all I want is the modem software so I could just wait till someone pulls it out they usually do. I always liked c heckin out the latest stock rom but always changed back to aokp.
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Thank you. So is the root process the same? Usually i flash twrp with odin then install su permissions then I flash away. Or do I have to use another method? Really all I want is the modem software so I could just wait till someone pulls it out they usually do. I always liked c heckin out the latest stock rom but always changed back to aokp.
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I wrote instructions on how I rooted. there could be other methods to. this is easiest for me! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2562994
if you're going to end up on aokp, you should just stay on the 4.1.2 boot loader. the update to me is really only for TW roms because the stock ROMs are working just fine w/o the new boot loader.
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I am pretty overwhelmed by all the searching I have been doing on the different basebands and modem upgrades.. Most people seem to want to downgrade in the posts I have been finding.
I have not ran stock TouchWiz for over a year, I believe I was still on 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 back then.
Currently, I am running a custom ROM (GZ Rom Validus or Spirit Rom) which are both on 4.4.4. My current Baseband and Bootloader are LK3.
It was suggested in on of the G+ Communities I update my BB and BL, is NE4 the current one? Should I still go about this? and if so, Which guide should I follow? I have the current CWM Recovery installed. Do I use enewman's guide from the General Discussion? Do I need to install the full stock 4.4.2 firmware or can I just flash the modems and bootloader?
I have never installed 4.3 OTA update, have never had Knox on my phone.
Is knox that big of a deal? Does it make things that much tougher to get around things?
Sorry, if this has been covered before, and I have searched the forums and done a bit of reading, but I think I may have read too much and just confused myself further..
If youre warranty is up, knox doesnt really matter, except that you cannot downgrade to older firmware. Most who want to just want to use the free sim unlock.
There will always be people who disagree, but I personally feel updating is a good idea. Better performance, more features....thats up to each person to decide though.
If you decide to update, everything you need is in General.
Ive linked to some threads in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54800327
Thanks will go through that tonight..
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Wouldn't hurt to do the free unlock before updating...
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Wouldn't hurt to do the free unlock before updating...
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I agree with him
Lol, oops.. just flashed the MJB Firmware.. I read about what an unlock was for.. We had been with Centennial before AT&T bought them and are still on AT&T today, so probably over 14 years and never really thought about changing.. Guess it would have been useful if I was going to sell my phone, but I can't seem to let things go sometimes Still have my iPhone 3GS, which I probably could sold when I was done with it, but I thought I would need it again sometime (I didn't)
Anyway, DocHoliday, I came back here because I started to go through this thread you linked to in the link you posted above (enewman17's thread for updating to 4.4.2 (high success rate) http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2789917
I decided to not flash TWRP and just flash the MJB in his Step 3 in the CWM Recovery I already had.. Then I stopped and read a few more pages of that thread, then I saw you posted this "Do not flash an ota over a custom modified rom. The chances of it going way wrong are too great. OTA's patch existing files on the device, and if those files have been modified there's a very good chance either the patch just wont take, or it'll really screw things up."
In my OP I stated I was already running a custom rom, so had a finished that guide, I probably would have messed something up somewhere right?
So I guess, where do I go from here? I am on the MJB firmware bootloader modem (that I flashed from enewmans guide) right now running Spirit Rom Android 4.4.4. I don't care about going back to stock, I want to maintain root and continue using non-touchwiz ROMS.. Though I did consider using a TW Rom a few months ago..
Ok, no problem there! Use enewman17's other thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2808654
It will update your base firmware (bootloader/modem/etc) without touching your current rom.
Thanks.. Didn't see that thread..
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i have att s3 i747. under baseband it says i747ucdlk3.
I want to install and experience with more roms, especially the lollipop nightlies. but they require an updated bootloader! Otherwise, my phone doesnt read the sim card. i have read so many threads on how to update the bootloader and modem/firmware, but half of the threads i read result in many people bricking their device! How do i update the bootloader properly? that is, without bricking my phone of course! should i do incremental updates? or jump from lk3 to the latest one? im lost on what to do, like i said so many people got bricked. can anyone help me out? it would be greatly appreciated!
i used this to get to NE4 with no problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789917
always , read read read. make a backup. good luck.
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i used this to get to NE4 with no problems.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2789917
always , read read read. make a backup. good luck.
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Thanks I'll read up on it right now. I agree, I always read on forums first, which is why I found so many posts about how people had bricked their phones.
One question: did u use this to update from lk3?
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Is your phone sim unlocked? If it isn't, you could flash back to a stock AT&T 4.1.1 ROM, unlock, and run OTA updates until your have the latest ROM on your phone. This approach requires more time but it is the simplest and least risky in my opinion.
So basically you're saying to flash back to unrooted stock. And then keep using att updates until I get to the latest one, and then I should be on ne4 automatically?? Not sure if I'm understanding this correctly.
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Yes, flash back to stock and keep running ota until you hit the latest release.
If you have warranty left on your phone, updating, rooting, and loading a custom recovery will change the warranty bit from 0 to 1 which voids the remaining warranty.
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Yes, flash back to stock and keep running ota until you hit the latest release.
If you have warranty left on your phone, updating, rooting, and loading a custom recovery will change the warranty bit from 0 to 1 which voids the remaining warranty.
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K will do when chance the chance. Btw. Isn't there a requirement to not go past a certain firmware if I wanted to revert back to stock or else it'll brick? I thought it was if I go past 4.3. Any ideas?
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You will have no choice but to flash to 4.4.2 bootloader and modem if you want to run the latest d2lte ROMs.
True, once you are on 4.3 or higher bootloader, you cannot go back to stock 4.1.1.
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You will have no choice but to flash to 4.4.2 bootloader and modem if you want to run the latest d2lte ROMs.
True, once you are on 4.3 or higher bootloader, you cannot go back to stock 4.1.1.
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Isn't the 4.1.1 bootloader lk3? Cuz for some reason I'm on a 4.4.4 ROM with a baseband that ends in lk3....does that mean anything?
Sorry guys I'm clueless when it comes to modems and bootloaders and all that stuff. Thanks for these replies btw.
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Are you running a custom rom?
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Are you running a custom rom?
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Yes. CROM
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Some kk roms will run on a 4.1.1 bootloader while others will not. I know some of the newer cm11 roms will work but you will not have any signal with older modems and bootloaders.
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Some kk roms will run on a 4.1.1 bootloader while others will not. I know some of the newer cm11 roms will work but you will not have any signal with older modems and bootloaders.
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i had read of some people have to use ktoonz kernel to get wifi , but that is usually in the OP.
thank you once again @audit13 for coming to the rescue. i am now M8 and losing what little i747 now-how i had. lmao.
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So since I'm on lk3.. I should still be able to flash black to 4.1.1 stock via Odin and then use the ota right? Or should I flash back to 4.3. Which one is the safe option? Im thinking about using the ota option mentioned earlier in this thread.
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