Is there any way to root this phone without a data wipe? I've never owned this phone, but a family member wanted to remove the verizon bloat. No ROMs will ever be installed, just need root to remove the specific apps. firmware 6.04.605.07, android 2.3.4.
Of note, I know about all the root and s-off guides, but none (that I read anyway) spoke specifically about data wipe. I know the HTCDev method DOES wipe data, so thats a no go..
Use alpharevx soff called revolutionary they have a web page revolutionary.io I think
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What are all the things I need become a full root user?
What do I need to use everything and have everything?
Like Unrevoked forever or 3.21 rooting?
Custom recovery,custom Rom,kernel,free WiFi tethering,nand unlock and backup,what apps to have everything and how to become a superuser and update the radio(if necessary)
How to back up my Rom in Rom manager.
Please step by step.
And in order please,
I need to learn how to do all of this.
Can someone help me with all the content of new to root?
I need to know what I need to do and how to do it.
What I'm missing and how I can back things up.
Like how to get nand unlock and backup.
How I install Roms and update the radio? Is that still needed?
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Theunlockr.com has instructions and video as well to help you. Always use cyanogen.
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Also go to androidspin.com
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The newest one click root method found on this site gives you full root access now. Nand unlocked and s-off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=787304
I got a brand new desire phone recently. some how I was lucky enough to get an imported phone with a local licence, how that happened I have no idea.
The thing is I love the current stock Rom I have because it has certain discontinued apps I've been trying to hunt down + the market app which hasn't been licensed in this region yet.
I still want to have root access to my phone. How do I rip the current Rom and root my phone with it? I also want to try and port it over to my old Legend and customize it a bit.
I would also be happy to provide it publicly here or on the shipped roms website if I'm successful. The phone is unbranded and unlocked so there should be no legal issues with HTC or network carriers.
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You can't backup BEFORE rooting but you can AFTER - once you've got your custom recovery on the handset you can use it to perform a backup of your phone as it is onto the SD card so should anything go wrong you can just restore it.
However, you might wanna look at the app I've attached to this reply - it can be used to backup apps to your SD card and doesn't need root. That way you can always reinstall them on newer ROM versions that don't have it
(To install it, extract the file from the ZIP and copy it to your sd card...then open a file manager and install using that)
Thanks, I'll give that app a try. But still there must be some kind of way to rip an image of the Rom? I'm going to need the image as backup and I want port that Rom over to the Legend if possible.
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Without root you simply can't do it as you don't have access to the /system partition
ok i'm a bit confused now, doesn't the root process already include flashing a custom ROM? so if i root the phone so i can access my stock ROM i'm gonna lose it either way becase of the rooting?
if thats the case then how do stock roms even exist publicly? sort of like which came first, the chicken or the egg?
i might be wrong but this is what i understood from the UnrEVOked rooting tutorials i read
Rooting doesnt involve a flash now, so once rooted u can backup the stock, rooted ROM. Then u can flash a custom ROM
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This applies to unrEVOked too right?
Thank you so much for bearing with me
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Yes. If u root using unrEVOked it only roots the phone. U can then do a nandroid backup before flashing a new ROM
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Yes. If u root using unrEVOked it only roots the phone. U can then do a nandroid backup before flashing a new ROM
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Unrevoked dose flash
It flashes a recovery image
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But it doesn't flash a new ROM so you can back up your existing one before flashing a new one
just to make sure i've been going through some tutorials again and they eventually led me to rootmydroid.com where i asked them about this issue. i got this answer:
"unrEVOked flashes a custom recovery image that is different from the stock one.
If you don’t want this maybe you should try VISIONary (google it)"
I did google VISIONary and it seems to be an app you can install on your phone and root it right on the spot, however going through the comments it doesn't seem to work on the Desire. I'm gonna test it myself on both the Desire and Legend and see if it works. i'll post back here with the results. if i got it working and managed to rip the rom i'll write a guide, i know its simple but it took me quite some searching and reading to get to this point.
VISIONary is an app developed by Paul/Modaco if anyone is wondering
A lot easier to just use unrEVOked - VISIONary was developed for the Desire HD
VISONary worked like a charm for the Legend, MUCH easier than the complex tutorial over at the Legend forums, but the downside is i have to work harder to get a backup whereas if I had rooted using other methods a recovery tool like nandroid would've been automatically installed. now although its rooted i'm still searching for a way to backup the legend.
VISIONary doesn't support the Desire so unrEVOked is the only way to go.
also i seem to have gotten 2 things confused: Recovery and ROM. after quite some reading let me see if i've got down the differences right.
when you say unrEVOked flashes a custom recovery it means it changes the default recovery mode to a custom one like say NANDroid or AmonRA which gives you the option to back up your ROM, correct? the ROM is an image of the OS itself which you can backup/restore with a recovery.
confusing those two made me run around in circles for a while but thanks to that i've learned quite a lot. I'm gonna try unrEVOked on my Desire and search for a way to backup the Legend, i'll ask around on the Legend forum and see where that goes.
i'll post back my results with the Desire here.
thanks Eddy
Hey guys,
This probably isn't just for DHD users but seeing as thats what im using i'll post it here!
So a while back i went through the custom ROM phase. I am by no means an expert in this area, im just able to follow instructions!
I rooted with visionary and went radio-off with the one click method (My phone was on 1.32). I gave a few ROMS a go and just preferred stock battery life etc so restored the stock ROM from my clockwork recovery back-up.
My question is how do i get my phone back to the state where it will receive official OTA updates from HTC (I've read that they wont work once you've done the S-off/radio-off procedure).
If its not possible to get it back to this state then what options do i have for getting official updates (say whenever HTC push the 2.3.3 ROM!)
Thanks Guys
easy way , run ruu updater utility for your phone but you loose all data and settings
Unroot it and install stock rom. You should be able to get total updates then
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easy way , run ruu updater utility for your phone but you loose all data and settings
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How does this work?!
After some searching i found this LINK
Would that be what your referring to?
jamieboy88 said:
How does this work?!
After some searching i found this LINK
Would that be what your referring to?
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Yep, that's the guide to follow
That's the one. Use 1.32.405.6 RUU. Then you must turn your phone S-ON, you can follow the instructions in my radio s-off tool thread to do that.
Is this correct that if you root and have S-OFF you won't receive updates? I asked that question at the time of rooting and was told that I would still get updates?
The only reason I rooted was to get Adfree working and get other such apps for rooted devices.
My Rom is the 1.32.405.6 as I bought the DHD all I have done is root with Visionary and got S-OFF.
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Is this correct that if you root and have S-OFF you won't receive updates? I asked that question at the time of rooting and was told that I would still get updates?
The only reason I rooted was to get Adfree working and get other such apps for rooted devices.
My Rom is 1.32.405.6 all I have done is root with Visionary and got S-OFF.
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im in the same boat. wouldn't mind leaving my phone as is if id still recieve updates despite the root and s-off!
S-OFF does not disable OTA updates, but root does.
jkoljo said:
S-OFF does not disable OTA updates, but root does.
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Oh so whenever there's an OTA available I can just unroot the phone? Or is it a little more complicated?!
jkoljo said:
S-OFF does not disable OTA updates, but root does.
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I used the S-OFF tool and Visionary temp root then perm root. How would we go about restoring everything when it comes to being able to get the 2.3 update?
Kind of wish I didn't root now as I was told the oppisite that S-OFF and rooting wouldn't effect getting updates.
Edit: I just used attempt unroot with Visionary, the DHD rebooted and I used root checker from the market and it says I don't have root now. Would this be sufficient to get updates now do you think?
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Yep, that should be alright. If the OTA does not want to install, you can just flash HTC RUU and the issue will be fixed. You will get a notification about the OTA anyway, so you do not have to guess whether it works or not.
Thanks that's good to know that the update notification will come and that by unrooting fixes any problems. In the meantime until 2.3 comes I think I'll reroot
I only rooted in the first place to get things like Adfree and Drocap2 working.
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Before I updated my Desire to official Gingerbread 2.3.3, I had used Visionary+ to temp root my phone. It doesn't work with Gingerbread and also looks like the app has come to end of life.
I tried searching the forum and Google, found many solutions but only to perm root.
I don't want to downgrade or change any ROM or do perm root. I'm looking for temp root only, like with Visionary+. I install it in my phone click temp root and done.
If anyone knows about this app, please let me know. I'd appreciate it very much.
Gingerbread closes the exploit visionary+ used for temp root. As far as I am aware, there is no temp root app yet. Can I ask why you don't want perm root?
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Gingerbread closes the exploit visionary+ used for temp root. As far as I am aware, there is no temp root app yet. Can I ask why you don't want perm root?
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I only want root, nothing else. No different ROM or loader or other fancy stuff.
I don't think I can say give me perm root like visionary+ temp root but don't change any stuff in my phone. I sincerely hope I'm wrong here.
You can go perm root and still use your stock rom.. You don't have to change that if you don't want to.
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Oh! I can. I tried unrevoked but it only talks about custom ROM. Am I misinterpreting something? Please advise.
Unrevoked doesn't work on GB. You have to use revolutionary.
Yes it opens the door for custom Roms, but you don't have to.
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rootSU said:
Unrevoked doesn't work on GB. You have to use revolutionary.
Yes it opens the door for custom Roms, but you don't have to.
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The FAQ in unrevoked.com/rootwiki/doku.php/public/revolutionary says:
Does Revolutionary give me root?
No. You will need to flash this zipfile from recovery.
So this means I don't need revolutionary for rooting?
How to flash that file from recovery?
You need first revolutionary, then recovery then you can flash zip. You need s-off first provided by revolutionary to get root. You can't get it without it
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rootSU said:
You need first revolutionary, then recovery then you can flash zip. You need s-off first provided by revolutionary to get root. You can't get it without it
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OK. I'll read more and try. Thank you all for the help so far.
I found this guide, http://techspalace.blogspot.com/2011/10/perm-root-htc-desire-gingerbread-233.html and followed it. My phone is rooted now. Thanks guys.
Good job!
I did a few searches in the EVO forum but found nothing specific to my question. Hope this hasnt already been answered.
I have a pretty simple question. If I run the HTC bootloader unlock tool and unlock my phone can I uninstall the sprint apps like nova, sprint football, sprint nascar etc? or is it more involved then that?
After you unlock your phone an install superuser there's many ways to uninstall those apps titanium backup is a great app to use for that
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Also I like revolutionary to root my phone because it provides you with a recovery and superuser if you followed the instructions its pretty darn easy
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shizkoff777 said:
Also I like revolutionary to root my phone because it provides you with a recovery and superuser if you followed the instructions its pretty darn easy
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I was trying to not root my phone. MY hope was that I could just unlock the boot loader and that alone would grant me access to delete those apps.
Firehawk_1066 said:
I was trying to not root my phone. MY hope was that I could just unlock the boot loader and that alone would grant me access to delete those apps.
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No, you need full root access to remove those, not just an unlocked bootloader.
S-off = nand unlock to flash roms you need to be s-off. To have root is to have superuser and busybox. With revolutionary you get both
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if u unlock boot loader you can flash anything you want. So if you take a stock from and delete the apps from it you do not want and then flash it, then u don't need root at all.
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No, you need full root access to remove those, not just an unlocked bootloader.
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thank you, this is what I wanted to know
you can root, then uninstall your apps, then use a pc3600img to flash back to the stock recovery and the s-on tool found here on xda to re lock your hboot then you may also uninstall superuser and no longer have a rooted phone