I was reading on un rooting and flashing a stock rom for the s3 sense the 4.3 update. originally I was looking for why I am not able to flash roms. well i still am unsure really and thought, you know what. why not flash a older stock rom reroot and go from there. then i found this web site telling how to do that and as i was reading it i read that there was a different counter besides the flash counter and that there is no way to reset it. So whats up with this new KNOX seceurity. will this cause problems when trying to send it back to the company for any reason? It seems to be causing problems with being able to flash roms.
im using philz touch 6.0.x.x something like that. and also my rom manager which i paid for isnt downloading squat. just says it is but doesn't show progress just shows like the prep. and i keep getting the status 7 error when trying to flash. I read that maybe cause it wasnt the official cwm recovery but i have sprint and read somewhere that philz touch is the only one that will work with sprints 4.3 update and being rooted.
cause after i flashed stock to get this update and tried to root it wouldnt recgonize it till i used philz touch.
dam this sh!ts confusing haha.
and that was more or less alot of random things that just a question about one thing. sorry guys.
3ryce said:
I was reading on un rooting and flashing a stock rom for the s3 sense the 4.3 update. originally I was looking for why I am not able to flash roms. well i still am unsure really and thought, you know what. why not flash a older stock rom reroot and go from there. then i found this web site telling how to do that and as i was reading it i read that there was a different counter besides the flash counter and that there is no way to reset it. So whats up with this new KNOX seceurity. will this cause problems when trying to send it back to the company for any reason? It seems to be causing problems with being able to flash roms.
im using philz touch 6.0.x.x something like that. and also my rom manager which i paid for isnt downloading squat. just says it is but doesn't show progress just shows like the prep. and i keep getting the status 7 error when trying to flash. I read that maybe cause it wasnt the official cwm recovery but i have sprint and read somewhere that philz touch is the only one that will work with sprints 4.3 update and being rooted.
cause after i flashed stock to get this update and tried to root it wouldnt recgonize it till i used philz touch.
dam this sh!ts confusing haha.
and that was more or less alot of random things that just a question about one thing. sorry guys.
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It actually will cause a problem. The KNOX warranty viod count will go to one. To my Knowledge there is no way to reset that yet.Samsung KNOX addresses platform security with a comprehensive three-pronged strategy to secure the system: Customizable Secure Boot, ARM TrustZone -based Integrity Measurement Architecture (TIMA), and a kernel with built-in Security Enhancements for Android (SE for Android) access controls. Basically trying to stop people from FLashing there own Firmware into the phone,
WHATEVER YOU WANT DO NOT TRY TO FLASH A DOWNGRADE> IT WILL HARD BRICK>
Yea you'll have to wait because of the ****ty KNOX samsung did. You got it if you did the ota update to 4.3 samsung released. I was so close to doing the ota until I read about it first. Wait until someone comes out with a fix
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Ya I wish I read about the update first or I wouldn't have done it. Oh well. Im sure eventually someone will crack it. Oh and ya thanks for that heads up on a downgrade cause I thought about doing that. Ha.
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So I am running the stock rom but have root access. the update pops up every 5 minutes to remind me to install it. I let it install and about 3 second in i get a yeild sign with an exclamation point in it. and the phone stops there. I waited for about 3 hours and nothing happened. Anybody know what I need to do here? I used Galaxy Nexus root toolkit v1.3 to root my phone. BTW i am with verizon
For as far as i now you cant update a rooted device. i sugest unrooting an try to update agian.
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yea that's what I thought I was going to have to do. but wanted to see if there was an update package someone had made for rooted devices like some others had.
nvm i think im going to trade the phone
So no one has an answer on this?
jordi97 said:
For as far as i now you cant update a rooted device. i sugest unrooting an try to update agian.
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Yes you can. You can't update a phone with CWM recovery though.
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Correct a rooted phone can update but not with any custom recovery. You need to flash back to the factory stock recovery.
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OK so looks like everyone is here was incorrect. The 4.04 rooted update is here in the XDA forums all i needed to do was flash it and the new antenna and everything is working fine now. here are the links.
4.04 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631796
radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630438
Thank you Brandon for helping me out with this.
There are no stupid questions only stupid answers.
Sdalton19 said:
OK so looks like everyone is here was incorrect. The 4.04 rooted update is here in the XDA forums all i needed to do was flash it and the new antenna and everything is working fine now. here are the links.
4.04 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631796
radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630438
Thank you Brandon for helping me out with this.
There are no stupid questions only stupid answers.
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Your right, stupid answers, that's not an ota update you did. That was pulled from a phone which was updated and packaged into a flashable file to use on a rooted device. But a carrier ota update as your device was asking you to update will not work without stock recovery.
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Isn't that exactly what i asked for second post in? Point is if you knew that, why didn't you say so? Look there's nothing wrong with being wrong every once in a while but be graceful about it. And if your going to give advice make sure you fully read the question and offer decent advice. You were saying there was no way to update it without unrooting and flashing back to stock. That was after I asked "yea that's what I thought I was going to have to do. but wanted to see if there was an update package someone had made for rooted devices like some others had." Is that not exactly what I asked for????
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Isn't that exactly what i asked for second post in? Point is if you knew that, why didn't you say so? Look there's nothing wrong with being wrong every once in a while but be graceful about it. And if your going to give advice make sure you fully read the question and offer decent advice. You were saying there was no way to update it without unrooting and flashing back to stock. That was after I asked "yea that's what I thought I was going to have to do. but wanted to see if there was an update package someone had made for rooted devices like some others had." Is that not exactly what I asked for????
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Well, you are right that there are a lot of partially right and partially wrong answers in this thread. But what are you saying is not exactly right either.
1) There is a difference between updating your existing build (like what you had asked to do in the first post) and flashing an entirely new build.
2) There is a difference between running a stock ROM (like what you were running before) and running a ROM that looks like it's stock, but is not (like what you are running now).
3) Root has NO impact whatsoever on your ability to install OTA updates on your stock ROM.
4) An OTA update will NOT install with a stock recovery UNLESS you are using the stock recovery version that came with the build you are using. (It seems like a lot of toolkits are flashing non-matching stock recoveries).
5) An OTA update file can EASILY be installed if you have CWM installed. See here.
6) Your phrase "unrooting and flashing back to stock" is silly, as flashing back to stock replaces your ROM, so why would you need to "unroot" your current ROM only to flash a stock ROM overtop? You don't root a device - you root an Android OS build. The phrase "root my device" does not make any sense.
I have had nothing but issues trying to use this software to update the firmware on my ATT S3. I'm new to Android (From Apple) and I'm still a noob but I have rooted and I have been trying all kinds of different ROMS. I cannot update my phone because I am getting the dreaded "Communication failed" error that more than a few people are getting.
One fix is to install latest update through Kies - but I can't seem to accomplish that. Am I able to update my firmware using Odin? I really haven't figured out much about Odin, I only rooted my phone with it once and that was easy and I din't learn a lot about Odin.
Can I use Odin to update firmware? If so how do I go about getting firmware file and whats the quick of it?
Thanks! :good:
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I have had nothing but issues trying to use this software to update the firmware on my ATT S3. I'm new to Android (From Apple) and I'm still a noob but I have rooted and I have been trying all kinds of different ROMS. I cannot update my phone because I am getting the dreaded "Communication failed" error that more than a few people are getting.
One fix is to install latest update through Kies - but I can't seem to accomplish that. Am I able to update my firmware using Odin? I really haven't figured out much about Odin, I only rooted my phone with it once and that was easy and I din't learn a lot about Odin.
Can I use Odin to update firmware? If so how do I go about getting firmware file and whats the quick of it?
Thanks! :good:
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What firmware are you trying to update to? Once your phone is rooted and your "trying all kinds of different ROMS" I question your need for Odin. Unless your trying to go back to a bone stock ROM I'd think that you would want to use whatever custom recovery that you've installed (CWM or TWRP) to install a ROM. I'm not going to link to it but I can guarantee that if you search for it here or on Google you'll find several guides to Odin.
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What firmware are you trying to update to? Once your phone is rooted and your "trying all kinds of different ROMS" I question your need for Odin. Unless your trying to go back to a bone stock ROM I'd think that you would want to use whatever custom recovery that you've installed (CWM or TWRP) to install a ROM. I'm not going to link to it but I can guarantee that if you search for it here or on Google you'll find several guides to Odin.
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Well, here's the thing. ATT has pushed out updates and I'm not getting them. I know some updates improve things - like call quality etc. Since I am not getting these I'm worried that I am missing out. I have uninstalled EVERY SINGLE ROM I have tried because of one issue: everyone I talk to on my phone hears an echo of their voice, it's so bad they tell me they have to hang up. It only does this on custom ROMs. So, I would like to be able to get these updates...not sure if I am making sense or not. Since Kies is such an incredibly horrible piece of software, I was hoping there was another way I could update my phone?????
Got ya, you should be able to use Odin to install the stock ROM. I think it's Sam Mobile? that you can register at and get the latest stock firmware. Again, search for the best way but it's doable.
i followed the unroot galaxy s3 thread because i accidentally pressed update when OTA update popped up on my rooted phone.
downloaded the latest android zip and updated with ODIN.
but it doesnt show 4.2 it still shows 4.1.1 android.
im a bit confused.
theres just too much **** available and i lost track of all these build numbers and updates and different programs.
i dont spend much time here anymore after i got rid of the HD2 and now im completely lost.
got other stuff to do cant afford spending 3 hours a day to stay on top of latest repackaged rom release
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i followed the unroot galaxy s3 thread because i accidentally pressed update when OTA update popped up on my rooted phone.
downloaded the latest android zip and updated with ODIN.
but it doesnt show 4.2 it still shows 4.1.1 android.
im a bit confused.
theres just too much **** available and i lost track of all these build numbers and updates and different programs.
i dont spend much time here anymore after i got rid of the HD2 and now im completely lost.
got other stuff to do cant afford spending 3 hours a day to stay on top of latest repackaged rom release
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4.1.1 UVDLJC is the latest official firmware.
oh ok then i thought it was 4.2 for some reason
one more question that i could not understand clearly
once i root the phone again. what specific services do i need to disable to prevent the automatic OTA updates?
i disabled one service related to update but didnt see any others.
and once rooted. do i have to unroot it in order to use odin and manually install OTA update that i downloaded?
im not planning to use custom roms( spent toomuch time making them wrk on HD2 and done with that for good)
jsut stock tmobile roms work fine for me.
thanks for quick reply i was about to try flashing again since i thought that it was supposed to be 4.2 version
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one more question that i could not understand clearly
once i root the phone again. what specific services do i need to disable to prevent the automatic OTA updates?
i disabled one service related to update but didnt see any others.
and once rooted. do i have to unroot it in order to use odin and manually install OTA update that i downloaded?
im not planning to use custom roms( spent toomuch time making them wrk on HD2 and done with that for good)
jsut stock tmobile roms work fine for me.
thanks for quick reply i was about to try flashing again since i thought that it was supposed to be 4.2 version
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You don't have to do anything with ota. When next one comes out you can unroot and install the ota as long as you hav stock recovery. If you have custom recivery you can always update with Samsung kies but you would need to reroot the new ROM. Or just flash a ROM through Odin.
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My note 2 has always been stable on 4.1.1 stock and I debloated it myself. So when ever an update came out rather than risking my stable phone I would just flash the new baseband from it and keep 4.1.1, until tesh stopped updating his thread. Recently my screen cracked so I used my insurance for the first time. The new phone came with 4.3 and the knox bootloader plus the CMK7 baseband. I did a cwm backup on my cracked screen phone. Used odin to flash cwm onto the new phone, which did cause knox to show I did but who really cares since the phone is so far out of warranty anyway. Then loaded my cwm backup onto the new phone. What I ended up with is my nice stable phone with everything working plus the new baseband CMK7 stayed but the bootloader is still the new knox one. Everything is working just fine, so whats the big thing with everyone saying you cant go back from 4.3? I went from 4.3 to 4.1.1 just fine via cwm.
Cool story bro
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My note 2 has always been stable on 4.1.1 stock and I debloated it myself. So when ever an update came out rather than risking my stable phone I would just flash the new baseband from it and keep 4.1.1, until tesh stopped updating his thread. Recently my screen cracked so I used my insurance for the first time. The new phone came with 4.3 and the knox bootloader plus the CMK7 baseband. I did a cwm backup on my cracked screen phone. Used odin to flash cwm onto the new phone, which did cause knox to show I did but who really cares since the phone is so far out of warranty anyway. Then loaded my cwm backup onto the new phone. What I ended up with is my nice stable phone with everything working plus the new baseband CMK7 stayed but the bootloader is still the new knox one. Everything is working just fine, so whats the big thing with everyone saying you cant go back from 4.3? I went from 4.3 to 4.1.1 just fine via cwm.
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If you use PC Odin to go backwards there are uncomfortable results.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
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Cool story bro
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How many of your posts are worthless? All of them? You sir are whats wrong with xda. The fact that every one thinks you cant go backwards from 4.3 just got proven wrong as long as you do it with cwm and not odin apparently.
There are multiple threads regarding your cool story.
The issue people are having is not being able to downgrade to 4.1.x OS. Its the bootloader that people were discussing and when coming from a 4.3 bootloader is impossible to downgrade to the 4.1.x bootloader/s.
Maybe doing a search in the future will get you some answers about the whole 4.3 bootloader and downgrading that you're taking about.
Good luck to you..
Ok but like I said I have the 4.3 bootloader and a 4.1 rom with no issues using cwm. So there is no issue with having a 4.1.1 rom and the 4.3 bootloader. If you have nothing constructive to add then dont post anything.
I mostly Lurk on XDA, But you sir are a different kind of stupid.
Clearly you haven't played with 4.1 long enough to see what the issues are, Its been well known that you can return to a older rom.
but knox has issues by doing so.
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Ok but like I said I have the 4.3 bootloader and a 4.1 rom with no issues using cwm. So there is no issue with having a 4.1.1 rom and the 4.3 bootloader. If you have nothing constructive to add then dont post anything.
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I mostly Lurk on XDA, But you sir are a different kind of stupid.
Clearly you haven't played with 4.1 long enough to see what the issues are, Its been well known that you can return to a older rom.
but knox has issues by doing so.
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Lol long enough? How about since release day when I bought it? My phone is stable as can be with no force closes completely self deblaoted, working wifi tether, bunch of xposed modules and everything is pefect. For the most part the OS that a phone releases with is typically the most stable, there are obviously exceptions but I have been doing this since the G1 days and as soon as you start getting flash happy is when you have issues. Only thing I update is the baseband/modem. Also dont name call over the Internet its childish but then again most people on here are typically teenagers. Could you elaborate on the issues knox should be causing me but isn't?
This topic has been mentioned many times, there's no room for the useless bickering going on in here.
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Have a great day!
Newbie but ive been lurking here since the evo4g days always glad there are updates for anyone to follow. lately i havent come up with one for my note 4, can anyone help me on this matter? atm its rooted 4.4.4 knox has been tripped and if it helps SM-N910P. tried searching for youtube, google, and throughout different threads. i connected my phone to smart switch pc samsung program and it detects an update for it but im too scared it will brick it if i go on that route. Many thanks in advance
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Newbie but ive been lurking here since the evo4g days always glad there are updates for anyone to follow. lately i havent come up with one for my note 4, can anyone help me on this matter? atm its rooted 4.4.4 knox has been tripped and if it helps SM-N910P. tried searching for youtube, google, and throughout different threads. i connected my phone to smart switch pc samsung program and it detects an update for it but im too scared it will brick it if i go on that route. Many thanks in advance
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oops forgot to post, i would like to keep it rooted since i use my sd card a whole bunch. saw that since jelly bean not just any app can use sd card to read write info.
xxSEIYAxx said:
oops forgot to post, i would like to keep it rooted since i use my sd card a whole bunch. saw that since jelly bean not just any app can use sd card to read write info.
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Ok, pretty easy.
First you have to get your phones partitions right for 5.1.1.
To do it go to this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3252903
and follow the op carefully.
The instructions written in red a couple paragraphs down in the the thread has the link you need to get your phone to 5.1.1.
After that you can flash any rom in this forum you'd like.
Good luck and don't forget to give @tx_dbs_tx a big thanks (and any thing else you'd like) for the commitment and hard work he has done for us all.
jhill110 said:
Ok, pretty easy.
First you have to get your phones partitions right for 5.1.1.
To do it go to this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3252903
and follow the op carefully.
The instructions written in red a couple paragraphs down in the the thread has the link you need to get your phone to 5.1.1.
After that you can flash any rom in this forum you'd like.
Good luck and don't forget to give @tx_dbs_tx a big thanks (and any thing else you'd like) for the commitment and hard work he has done for us all.
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thanks so much, i might have messed up i pull up supersu and it tells me "there is no su binary installed and supersu cannot install it. this is a problem!" - i dont know if i really need this, i mainly rooted jelly bean note 4 to get sd card access on my 3rd party apps and it works as is right now
also it keeps bugging me if i want to install a 150.16MB update N910PVPS4COK1/N910PSPT4COK1/N910PVPS4COK1 - should i just go ahead and install it?
other than that everything seems to be working, faster and better than before.
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thanks so much, i might have messed up i pull up supersu and it tells me "there is no su binary installed and supersu cannot install it. this is a problem!" - i dont know if i really need this, i mainly rooted jelly bean note 4 to get sd card access on my 3rd party apps and it works as is right now
also it keeps bugging me if i want to install a 150.16MB update N910PVPS4COK1/N910PSPT4COK1/N910PVPS4COK1 - should i just go ahead and install it?
other than that everything seems to be working, faster and better than before.
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First of, don't take the ota just yet. Wait for comments about it first. If your on a custom rom you shouldn't be getting that update notification.
Which rom are you on when you get the SuperSU message?
If you are now up to 5.1.1 and flashed a custom rom you don't need to root.
Explain a little what you did to see if the issue can be sniffed out.
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First of, don't take the ota just yet. Wait for comments about it first. If your on a custom rom you shouldn't be getting that update notification.
Which rom are you on when you get the SuperSU message?
If you are now up to 5.1.1 and flashed a custom rom you don't need to root.
Explain a little what you did to see if the issue can be sniffed out.
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Yeah i followed the instructions in full of the thread you connected me to. im on 5.1.1 stock, i flashed the odexed version tx_dbs_tx placed on there.
i dont really flash any other rom in there that isnt stock since i know most have issues recognizing the spen
if it helps software version im on is N910PVPU4COJ6
hardware version N910P.05
the supersu message i mentioned earlier only appears if i hit the supsu app
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Yeah i followed the instructions in full of the thread you connected me to. im on 5.1.1 stock, i flashed the odexed version tx_dbs_tx placed on there.
i dont really flash any other rom in there that isnt stock since i know most have issues recognizing the spen
if it helps software version im on is N910PVPU4COJ6
hardware version N910P.05
the supersu message i mentioned earlier only appears if i hit the supsu app
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for the full steps on what i did is
Odin flash the stock OJ6 rom tar using odin on your PC. on that step it took forever it build the library and then i just made sure i was able to connect to usb for the next step.
i went ahead and placed the downloaded sprint stock rom onto my external
went to the recovery mode i wiped my internal 3 times
then i hit the apply update on external i believe is the option i chose (the way he explained on the thread was way different from what i had, i mean the wording). i selected the sprint stock and it hung up for a while on the sprint spark, built library again and phone was as if it was brand new asking me to signin google.
it downloaded all my previous apps even the sprint crap ( i was able to uninstall those) other than updating the apps and messing around w them i really havent done much else. bluetooth works as well as texting and calls, wifi too
Well, you can be sure if @tx_dbs_tx released a rom it's darn near perfect. His roms come prerooted.
If you are still having supersu issues do a wipe and install any of his roms. They don't have issues... I've been using his roms for over a year and have found problems are usually user created.