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Hacking the Sony Liveview

Despite the bad reviews I picked up a Liveview yesterday. Was $50 brand new off Craigslist. And surprise surprise, it turned out to be a turd. Well, I don't like to waste money, so I set about modding it. Thought some people here might be interested to see what I did.
So far I've waterproofed the case. Next I'll be building a better strap, one that doesn't make it huge or block the USB port. http://www.jax184.com/projects/liveview/liveview.html has everything I've done so far on it.

Nice i got that thing and it "worked" but still with the having to restart it all the time was very annoying but i ended up sending mine back

So I've been using the Liveview for a couple days, or at least trying to. Even after doing a full reset of the device, reinstalling the software on my phone and removing all the plugins, it has a battery life of about 6-8 hours. In that time I turned the screen on twice, and it briefly lit up to tell me of an incoming call. No texts, no alerts, and I don't have farcebook/twatter/etc turned on. It sat 2 feet from my phone the entire time. If I actually try to use the damn thing to, say, control the media player, the battery goes dead in 2 to 3 hours.
Pathetic...
I've decided I'm going to build it into a custom case for a friend of mine with a much larger battery, since the stock one is completely and utterly useless. So much for my gasket job...

Not sure if the battery is just dying on yours or what but if I never touch the screen, mine lasts for a couple days at least (and that's with alerts!). Sad to hear yours has issues :\

Mine's brand new and running the latest firmware/software with the bare minimum of functionality enabled, so I'm as confused as you.

I have a liveview and i absolutely love it. I dont have any connection issues but i mostly just use it as a watch with out having it connected over bluetooth and the battery lasts for days when i do that. I do have an issue now where i dropped it and the select button on top doesnt work anymore

Can I connect multiple liveviews to my phone?
I just bought 4 of them for $15 a pop !! Sweet
I know I can use it with torque which is cool
what else can I do with them? Can I run album art to it from say player pro? or Pocket Casts?
is there a decent list somewhere of "interesting" things you can do with the little buggers?

Hi, do someone know the dimensions of the battery, because i have one with death batt. and need a replacement.

nice mod! Based on the pictures I can see the battery size in case I need to replace it, by the way using notifications my watch last 2.5 days, using a plugin last only 30minutes or less

nerys71 said:
Can I connect multiple liveviews to my phone?
I know I can use it with torque which is cool
what else can I do with them? Can I run album art to it from say player pro? or Pocket Casts?
is there a decent list somewhere of "interesting" things you can do with the little buggers?
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+1 I just got one for $15, I wanna find some cool things I can do with it. What have you done to set yours up?

its a pain in the freaking butt. cool potential poor execution.
it constantly gets disconnected when something goes wrong ON THE DROID SIDE. terminating the app and relaunching it solves the problem for X period of time (few hours ??)
the most convenient access is also the worst designed. the watch band. YOU CAN NOT CHARGE IT WHILE IN THE WATCH BAND.
what freaking moron though that was a good idea to force us to remove it (VERY difficult) to charge it.
if the software bugs get worked out I may look into modding the stinking socket so I can charge it while in watch mode (thinking of RIVETING the case to the band) then I won't need the little watch pin thingy that is keeping me from charging it while its in the watch band.
and there is just not that many "cool" apps to use for it yet or the few out their are poorly executed.
how hard can it be to reliably push the freaking album art to the watch ?

nerys71 said:
its a pain in the freaking butt. cool potential poor execution.
it constantly gets disconnected when something goes wrong ON THE DROID SIDE. terminating the app and relaunching it solves the problem for X period of time (few hours ??)
the most convenient access is also the worst designed. the watch band. YOU CAN NOT CHARGE IT WHILE IN THE WATCH BAND.
what freaking moron though that was a good idea to force us to remove it (VERY difficult) to charge it.
if the software bugs get worked out I may look into modding the stinking socket so I can charge it while in watch mode (thinking of RIVETING the case to the band) then I won't need the little watch pin thingy that is keeping me from charging it while its in the watch band.
and there is just not that many "cool" apps to use for it yet or the few out their are poorly executed.
how hard can it be to reliably push the freaking album art to the watch ?
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Brother....
For disconnect issue , install this app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ishii.app.liveviewcharm
Its really bad remove device all time from strap : (
Hope it help you

2 Generations of Liveviews
Just to be clear, there are 2 versions of this device floating about... The older one goes for around $20 and is not much more than a novelty... The newer model runs around $100 and seems to have fixed the battery life issue... One should look at the Pebble once it is available as a possible alternative...

openliveview
Drewmungus said:
+1 I just got one for $15, I wanna find some cool things I can do with it. What have you done to set yours up?
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I started creating a usable gui for the openliveview project. Theo openliveview project is an open source reimplementation Of the liveview app.
You van follow the development in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422106&page=26
Note: you have to uninstall the liveview app bevore you van install openliveview

probbiethe1 said:
I have a liveview and i absolutely love it. I dont have any connection issues but i mostly just use it as a watch with out having it connected over bluetooth and the battery lasts for days when i do that. I do have an issue now where i dropped it and the select button on top doesnt work anymore
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This might help you. It won't solve the issue of select button, but it'll help you read notifications.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40041226

Where can you find one for 15 bucks? Even if it did nothing, I'd want it for 15 bucks, just to have as a key for my phone using tasker. I supposed I could get any old bluetooth headset, but I wanted something wearable.

jadenguy said:
Where can you find one for 15 bucks? Even if it did nothing, I'd want it for 15 bucks, just to have as a key for my phone using tasker. I supposed I could get any old bluetooth headset, but I wanted something wearable.
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Yeah, $15 is AWESOME!
$18 with Free shipping on ebay buy it now is the best price I can find so far.
I bought four of them and donated 2 to the local hackerspace.
Would be wicked to control more than one at once. I'm trying to find some chick to wear two as earrings.
Perhaps one controlled with Sony app and one Open Liveview App each for one mac address.
Contrary to earlier post, I seem to be able to have both Sony and Openliveview apps installed at once (though haven't tried RUNNING both) yet.
My battery life across the two that I've evaluated and (a third I lost to the ocean) seems significantly better than the average reported above.
But a LOT of variables have changed since the OP. New firmware, new app, new phone, new bt stack, new android versions...
My impression IIRC is that this thing is ROCK SOLID on CyanogenMod7 or CM9 on evo 3d.

Now that you had the A100 for a while any problems

Now that I have had this tab for a month. Its now starting to act up. Browser force closing, touch screen can be difficult to navigate (too sensitive) it will often open apps when swiping through screens, and overall performance is getting really slow. I have added a memory card to free up some memory but doesn't help. So I'm wondering what the community experience for us that has had the device for awhile.
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I really like my A100 overall. Three things that are starting to kill me about it are:
1: Battery life; I've attempted to remove all/some/certain apps, turn off syncing, set sync long, turn wifi/gps off, remove "bloat", turn screen brightness low etc.. For the last two weeks I've tried a lot of different methods to save battery. Still, last night I went to sleep with it at 60-70%(on my latest method to save battery) and woke up with it completely drained. Might need to exchange it I guess.
2: Viewing angles. Thought I could deal with it no problem. However, when I use it as an e-reader (or anytime is portrait) the viewing angles make it difficult to look at the screen for extended periods of time. I have to tilt the left side back more so I don't strain my eyes.
3: Live wallpapers; Many are unusable. I have 4 widgets total and only use 3 home screens. On many of the live wallpapers I use, the swiping of screens either is very laggy, or has a very obvious delay in the time I swipe to the time the screen actually moves.
Performance has started to get slightly worse, not too bad though. I have started to get force closes on some apps and the browser. May end up returning / selling this and get something else. Pity, I really like it other than the first two annoyances..I can live without live wallpaper.

Battery life is a sore point for me as I'm sure it is for everyone. The screen isn't great, but it's not bad enough to bother me much.
I haven't had any software problems fortunately, or at least not any that aren't common with the whole Honeycomb live beta that Google has been running all year. Hopefully ICS will fix a lot on the software side.
That being said, I'm coming from a Nook Color(with a Kindle Fire also considered). Since I paid in the same price range for this($189 on Black Friday) the trade offs as compared to the Nook/KF aren't too bad and at the end of the day I do like having a full tablet with out having to turn it into an ugly hack job(I'm especially looking at you Nook Color)
For $200, I'd say I got my moneys worth, and I might even say it's worth it for the $260 BestBuy is still selling them for, but anything higher, and I'd say it'd be too much to pay for this thing. It's not a high quality tablet, the screen and battery life seal the deal on that one, but it's definitely not the worst tablet I've seen out there. It's miles better than all the cheap Chinese crap tablets, but it doesn't to much to exceed the standards of the "upper crap" brands like Archos.

I'd say the thing is worth about $250.
For now, I think 7" is the sweet spot for tablets. (I previously owned a 10.1" Asus Transformer, which had great battery life and a beautiful screen but was awkwardly big/heavy).
And that said, the A100 is the best 7" tablet currently available (including the new 7" Galaxy Tab, simply because it lacks a microSD slot. I wouldn't trade my microSD slot for 3 more hours of battery life and an IPS screen, especially if the deal added $100+ bucks to the price.)
- I give the screen a B+ (I do wish it didn't solarize from the bottom viewing angle, but it's otherwise bright and clear.)
- Real world battery life, C+ (6 hours is fine enough in practice because I charge nightly, but it'd be awesome to have 12 hours--save me from bringing the charger on short trips, etc.)
- The industrial design I don't care at all about. I have it in the phenomenal Blurex leather case, so the lame blue plastic/silver swirl thing on the back is a non-issue to me.
Really, Acer made all the right compromises. My next tablet will probably be the Transformer 3 when it comes out in a year, hopefully it'll have 300 ppi screen and will dual boot Jelly Bean and Windows 8. If Windows developers embrace ARM , I think a Transformer 3 + laptop dock will mean I'll never buy another PC.
Until tablets can replace laptops (early 2013), a cheap but fullspeed 7" is a great device.

I've had mine for about 2 weeks and I have seen some slowdown when booting up and scrolling in the app drawer from time to time but most likely due to having installed so many apps. Battery has been better for me. I have my wifi to turn off when screen is off and also have a wifi toggle widget to turn off wifi when I'm playing a game or sometimes I just turn off wifi completely when I'm not using the tablet which only drains my battery about 1-2% per hour. Overall usage I would say I get the normal 5 hour mark. Viewing angle is not much an issue for me as I always look at the tablet straight on and its much sharper than my older Samsung tab 7. The only issue I still have is the screen not being responsive or some are saying too sensitive. There's a thread on this already. I'm hoping this will be fixed via software. This is my 3rd one however since my other 2 had wifi issues. I fixed one but it still had screen touch issue so I exchanged and all 3 was the same. So far I'm happy for the $248 I purchased it for. I bring this thing everywhere i go since it fits inside my jacket pocket.

Mainly battery life is the sore point for me.
The screen is more sensitive than my iDevices but nowhere as bad as my LG Evo phone was. A bit more sensitive than the Blackberry Playbook.
Disabling the capacitive home button was a must for me. I would hit it so many times when holding it in landscape view, it drove me crazy.
The screen, I agree with everyone else about the viewing angle from the bottom not being good.
Of course, there is always room for improvement. The hardware in the PB is great, especially the screen and battery life but the software is way lacking in comparison to Android.
At $250, it is a good tablet. I wouldn't pay more for it than that.
It's the perfect size and I take it almost everywhere.

DaveRichardson said:
And that said, the A100 is the best 7" tablet currently available (including the new 7" Galaxy Tab, simply because it lacks a microSD slot. I wouldn't trade my microSD slot for 3 more hours of battery life and an IPS screen, especially if the deal added $100+ bucks to the price.)
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The Galaxy Tab 7 Plus does have a microSD slot.
http://cdn.androidcommunity.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/P1080005.jpg

I bought one.for my daughter and have been playing with it for 2 weeks now..Rooted it as soon as.I took it out of the box and installed a few root apps like ad free to keep her from clicking on ads.
For $250 I have to say I am pretty impressed. I have loaded it up with a bunch of educational apps as well as games. So far I have not had one force close on any app. Battery life is ok and WiFi is fastest device off same router as my dinc and t60.
I am not sure what you guys expect for 250, but if you can find any Android device that doesn't need.to be charged daily, then you aren't using it.
Just my opinion
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My thoughts exactly for the price it cant be beat. Very happy with the purchase. here is a screen cap of my a100 i never turn off wifi, this was with light usage. with regular use gaming/browsing for me I still get 8hrs.

For personal use the A100 is the perfect tablet, it easily fits in the inside pocket of a jacket, and despite complaints from others that the screen and battery life is not ideal, I think the screen is adequate and after 7 weeks I once had an empty battery. It is complete with Android 3.2, HDMI (works great as HTPC), 3.5mm audio connector, GPS, dual camera (not its strongest point), micro USB slave (missing USB host), Micro SD slot, and replacable battery. Upgrade to ICS is available next month. Moreover, it is much more affordable as similar products from its competitors.

Has anyone tried to use the tablet with it lying on any surface. Recently i discovered that with it on a bed or table lying flat the touch screen is practically unusable. Using a stylus for note taking is useless, it doesn't register every stroke and writing is broken up.
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qhinton said:
Has anyone tried to use the tablet with it lying on any surface. Recently i discovered that with it on a bed or table lying flat the touch screen is practically unusable. Using a stylus for note taking is useless, it doesn't register every stroke and writing is broken up.
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Yeah the touchscreen has some issues. If you lightly swipe the touchscreen on the browser it will zoom in I dunno why

@qhinton:
If you must use the A100 while it's lying on a table or a bed, try turning it upside-down first. There is no backlight on the bottom edge, only on the top edge. Viewing from above the top edge, or flipping the A100 upside down and viewing from below, is much better that way. Not perfect, but better.
Another remedy is to get an easel case, so you can prop the A100 at a comfortable viewing angle.

OpaPiloot said:
For personal use the A100 is the perfect tablet, it easily fits in the inside pocket of a jacket, and despite complaints from others that the screen and battery life is not ideal, I think the screen is adequate and after 7 weeks I once had an empty battery. It is complete with Android 3.2, HDMI (works great as HTPC), 3.5mm audio connector, GPS, dual camera (not its strongest point), micro USB slave (missing USB host), Micro SD slot, and replacable battery. Upgrade to ICS is available next month. Moreover, it is much more affordable as similar products from its competitors.
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It has a user replaceable battery?

jschall said:
@qhinton:
If you must use the A100 while it's lying on a table or a bed, try turning it upside-down first. There is no backlight on the bottom edge, only on the top edge. Viewing from above the top edge, or flipping the A100 upside down and viewing from below, is much better that way. Not perfect, but better.
Another remedy is to get an easel case, so you can prop the A100 at a comfortable viewing angle.
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Thanks I found that trick out from using a Viewsonic GTab. What I was explaining is that the tablet needs to be grounded to work properly. So basically if your not holding it the tablet struggles with registering your gestures. Whem laying it on a bed or table the tablet touch screen would be very sporadic.
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qhinton said:
Thanks I found that trick out from using a Viewsonic GTab. What I was explaining is that the tablet needs to be grounded to work properly. So basically if your not holding it the tablet struggles with registering your gestures. Whem laying it on a bed or table the tablet touch screen would be very sporadic.
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If you have major sensitivity issues try my fix posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347123&page=6
This has mostly fixed the issue for me, still shows up every once in a while but after doing this fix there was a huge improvement for me.

WiFi keeps turning itself off every few minutes. checked all the settings and it still does it. none of my other Android devices do this, only the Tab 7"

after two months of use.
I'm very satisfied of this tab. No "problem" at all.
Battery life: is good if used well. Obviously could be better, but with a double core and a so large display is very good. It surprises me when i play HD games for long and i see almost no change in battery life.
Wifi: signal reception is good, no problem. Connection speed at my home is almost 1Mb/sec checked on tablet.
Display and touch: angle of sight is small for a tablet, but colors and luminosity is very good. Touch screen is very very sensible but i like it. With the screen saver the touch is perfect.
Performance: I'm agree with my colleagues about the live wallpaper. Sometimes they are too slow. The computing speed of this tab is very very good. Opening apps, photos and hd video is vey fast. It's definitely a fast tab
Camera: Is good enough. I've recently bought a Galaxy S 2 with a 8mp camera and I see the difference from the 5mpx of the A100 but is still capable of very high detailed photos.
Voip and VideoCalls: I use this two features a lot since I'm often away from home and both are very good. No lag at all. Video is clear and fluid, audio too. The microphone volume is low I think, but is not a problem if you can hold it closer to you.
Handling and Style: I can bring it inside a pocket and go wherever I want. Is not heavy, it doesn't need a separate bag to be kept with you. Is the perfect size in terms of mobility. The shape is cool and can be handled easily. Maybe the back of the cover would be better completely gray or black.

No problem apart from the fact that i cannot delete bloat cuz i dunno which system app will brick if i delete em, weight since i hold it in portrait mode often, FCs, lastly screen ratio. Prefer it wider and shorter.

jay_993 said:
No problem apart from the fact that i cannot delete bloat cuz i dunno which system app will brick if i delete em, weight since i hold it in portrait mode often, FCs, lastly screen ratio. Prefer it wider and shorter.
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If you mess up you should be able to just flash any of the update.zip in the rom thread to bring those files back. You will need to reroot if were already rooted.

Ouya Issues

GF got me an ouya as a stocking stuffer and even though I really wanted one and think its a great little toy, I cant get over a few issues.
I am hoping some of you guys can tell me you've experienced the same and maybe even have a fix.
My console is rooted but stock rom.
1) controller lag is awful. Even playing an old SNES game mario world was so unresponsive I couldn't even finish the first stage. I downloaded "The Ball" which actually is a very interesting little game I might buy for 9$ but seriously the Lag would get so bad My guy would end up spinning in cricles and killing himself.
I recently decided to hard wire the system since I have read online thats a possible fix but really didnt get time to test. Also read placing the system on its side helps but REALLY?
2) Sound dissapears. EVERY time I reboot or come up from sleep mode (50/50 on that one) I have to repeatedly unplug and re plug in the HDMI plug until sound returns. WTF is up with that? Also read this could be a universal problem after the latest update.
3) Wireless N will not work. Again I have hardwired it for now but the thing WILL NOT see my wireless N on my duel band. It will see the G fine and have "excellent" connection but it will not see the N. I even tried manually entering the SSID but no luck. My buddy who also bought one when I did seems to have ZERO the issues Im having.
I have been dealing with tech support and wondering If I shoudl just return the thing to Target as a faulty model and try again.

tevil said:
GF got me an ouya as a stocking stuffer and even though I really wanted one and think its a great little toy, I cant get over a few issues.
I am hoping some of you guys can tell me you've experienced the same and maybe even have a fix.
My console is rooted but stock rom.
1) controller lag is awful. Even playing an old SNES game mario world was so unresponsive I couldn't even finish the first stage. I downloaded "The Ball" which actually is a very interesting little game I might buy for 9$ but seriously the Lag would get so bad My guy would end up spinning in cricles and killing himself.
I recently decided to hard wire the system since I have read online thats a possible fix but really didnt get time to test. Also read placing the system on its side helps but REALLY?
2) Sound dissapears. EVERY time I reboot or come up from sleep mode (50/50 on that one) I have to repeatedly unplug and re plug in the HDMI plug until sound returns. WTF is up with that? Also read this could be a universal problem after the latest update.
3) Wireless N will not work. Again I have hardwired it for now but the thing WILL NOT see my wireless N on my duel band. It will see the G fine and have "excellent" connection but it will not see the N. I even tried manually entering the SSID but no luck. My buddy who also bought one when I did seems to have ZERO the issues Im having.
I have been dealing with tech support and wondering If I shoudl just return the thing to Target as a faulty model and try again.
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1) I don't have any lags with controllet. I have used Wifi, but now I'm using ethernet and work fine. Try the controller settings with wifi and bluetooth settings.
2) I have sound bug only in emulator. Solution is go to the audio settings and than back. Once do this in GTA but I only press 2x menu button a than quit and it worked.
3) I have only 802.11 N and no problem. If you mean 5GHz N this is not support.

Mattthev said:
1) no problem. If you mean 5GHz N this is not support.
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okay then thats it cause mine is dual channel
Still the controller lag is a huge issue.
Also the sound settings are not it cause literally I will just replug in the HDMI and it comes back.
thanks
Ive googled and seen others who say their sound went after the latest update and since mine updated as soon as it turned on then thats probably it

tevil said:
okay then thats it cause mine is dual channel
Still the controller lag is a huge issue.
Also the sound settings are not it cause literally I will just replug in the HDMI and it comes back.
thanks
Ive googled and seen others who say their sound went after the latest update and since mine updated as soon as it turned on then thats probably it
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Try another HDMI cable and use ethernet.

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Try another HDMI cable and use ethernet.
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yeah been through about 4 cables until I finally just went back to stock because it was the shortest.
All of them did it.
Im on ethernet now. Will have to run some plays tonight.

Location. Is your Ouya in clear sight and close to the controller? For some ungodly reason the Ouya has a metal case, a metal case surrounding all the wireless antennas.
I recently placed my Ouya 6" from where it previously resided, but behind my TV. Now my streaming shows buffer every 2-3 minutes.
I have heard the aftermarket cases offer significant improvements in wireless performance. Since the WiFi and Bluetooth use the same chip and antenna both are affected, and both improve with increased signal that is the result of removing the Faraday cage from around the motherboard. This improves the responsiveness of the controller since it isn't fighting for signal as much, and Bluetooth is a low power short range protocol as it is.
Also try calibrating the controller. Pull the batteries, put them back in, and fire up the controller. Don't touch it while its starting. It helped improve my controller some, didn't notice if it improved lag at all though.

ill try the recalibration.
I have turned it on its side and its about 8' to the right of where I sit in plain line of sight. Also its using a hard cable now. improved but NOT great. Will work fine for like 15 minutes then just start buggin out.
My controller firmware is 0x0103 which seems to be older since there is 0104 out now.
My buddy who has ZERO issues with his controller running wifi with his OUYA behind his TV is going to tell me his firmware tonight. He lives in anotehr state tho so we cant trade controlelrs.
Been going back and forth with OUYA cust serv on this.
Also the sound thing seems to be a big issue on the OUYA forums

No issues with sound for me, so it is not universal. It's probably a bug that affects some TV's and receivers but not others. Stuff like that was super common when HDMI was new. Doing support for HD cable boxes sucked, let me tell you.
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MOGA any way to switch left and right sticks.

Hello, I've been playing the game Sky Gamblers - Rise of Glory. I bought this Moga Pro because I love the game soo much.. BUT, the dang sticks are backwards, for example right stick controls up and down, left and right. And the right controls rudder and throttle. . Huge bummer, I was wondering if anyone knows a way, with a game that doesn't offer control mapping, to switch the stick roles. Weather it be physically taking it apart / mapping app..

Pretty silly that every game except RiseOfGlory has the right stick as the "look around" stick.. Frustrating
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No Keyboard

I decided not to get a keyboard at least for now.
I am using the Pixel C to stream media, play videos, read books, and play games.
I believe the keyboard would just get in the way.
Anybody else going tablet only ?
Is there some reason I should reconsider and buy a keyboard ?

AstroDigital said:
I decided not to get a keyboard at least for now.
I am using the Pixel C to stream media, play videos, read books, and play games.
I believe the keyboard would just get in the way.
Anybody else going tablet only ?
Is there some reason I should reconsider and buy a keyboard ?
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Haven't picked one up myself, but when I do, I will most likely be going tablet only, as my use cases are pretty much the same as yours. I don't need a tablet for productivity. If I need to type a paper or massively long emails, I'll use my laptop. If I need a keyboard, my $20 Anker BT slim keyboard should work just fine.

charesa39 said:
Haven't picked one up myself, but when I do, I will most likely be going tablet only, as my use cases are pretty much the same as yours. I don't need a tablet for productivity. If I need to type a paper or massively long emails, I'll use my laptop. If I need a keyboard, my $20 Anker BT slim keyboard should work just fine.
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Same here, and doubt I'll pick it up. It's definitely a media consumption device for me rather than for creating. My 13" laptop is portable enough for creative stuff on the go and (should I need both) my Everyday Messenger Bag has slots for each.

Went tablet only here as well and LOVE this thing so far. Used it over the wee-end for some Netflix, YouTube, casual browsing, news reading and casual gaming (i.e. candy crush and the like). I might get the keyboard if they lower the price point a bit (200 CAD is pretty pricey for a keyboard tbh, hoping they'll have some sort of boxing day deal on the Play store maybe?) but really, what I wanted is a good, 10 inch, pure Android tablet and Google definitely delivered. The only 2 things I can sort of complain about so far is that the speakers kinda suck and the screen is a tadbit on the pink side for my taste but not a deal breaker for me, I am keeping the tablet for sure.
Battery wise, was at 100% Sat morning and 43% on Sunday evening, no complaints regarding battery life here (much better than what my N9 could do on Lollipop or even on Marshmallow).

I will do the same, no keyboard for me! Will use the Pixel C for some gaming, videos, web and reddit. I really hope Google will sell this device to Sweden

Tablet only as well
Mainly for gaming and dinking around on the net and what not
I need a screen protector for sure though. And a folio case of some kind to just use to kick stand it and support some of the top heavy weight while holding it and gaming lol.
Had it gaming for 4.5hrs straight on Marvel Future Fight before it needed to be plugged in lol

Hmm, so I am the only 'dumb' guy here, with the expensive keyboard? Well, I don't have a laptop and use it with ownnote and other typing stuff.
The magnetic system is neat too, the pix wakes up if you relocate the keyboard to the tablet and its very stable and doesn't detach by itself.
As for youtube and so on, I found out that its pretty convenient to lay it down on the chest with the attached keyboard.
Sure if you have a dedicated notebook, that keyboard is likely far too expensive.

Going to revive this thread because this is exactly what i came here looking for. My office computer is an always-on Windows 7 desktop. I've got the 2nd gen Chromebook Pixel, which ends up being my primary computer. I use CRD to access my office computer whenever I need something Chrome doesn't provide, which is really not that often. I've been very tempted by the Pixel C since it was announced, but I haven't pulled the trigger yet. With the 25% off option, I'm right on the cusp of doing it.
I rocked the Nexus 7s (both iterations) for years and loved having those. My '13 was one of the unlucky models to suffer the Lollipop brick issue, and I've been without a tablet since. I would love another Android tablet, especially something high-end like my CB Pixel. Obviously, this one fits the bill.
I'm curious if people are still running around without keyboards and no second thoughts. I can't help but think that, if I were to get the keyboard, I would end up with a lot of redundancy between the two Pixel devices. I'd love to hear thoughts.