I just got a note 2 for att, it's on 4.1.2. If i install any custom rom from 4.3 or 4.4, will it update the bootloader in turn installing knox?
Yes. ..If you take an "official"...OTA...you will get Knox. ..
But if you are rooting 4.1.2...and using a custom recovery. ..then you are free to flash the roms found in the development section. ..(no knox)...g
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kooshy91 said:
I just got a note 2 for att, it's on 4.1.2. If i install any custom rom from 4.3 or 4.4, will it update the bootloader in turn installing knox?
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Nope. U only get Knox bootloader from official 4.3 OTA. U can flash any ROM and still stay on your 4.1.2 bootloader.
P.S. just don't flash ROMs which are Knox Dependent. I've read somewhere about a ROM that's Knox dependent.
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Is it possible to install 4.1.2 custom rom on a note2 which has official 4.3?
Bump.... Any one tried this?
That's what I'm wondering too! It's what's keeping me from updating bootloader/rom right now
Bump.. bump? Anyone running a custom 4.1.2 rom on 4.3 bootloaders?
I have had no issues. With roms on 4.3 Other then my Knox counter tripping.
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jester12345 said:
I have had no issues. With roms on 4.3 Other then my Knox counter tripping.
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How did you install 4.3 bootloader, did you upgrade from 4.1.2? Can you point me to the instructions for the same?
I'm looking to install clean rom 5.0 with 4.3 bootloader
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I'm looking to install clean rom 5.0 with 4.3 bootloader
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Why? Did you already flash a 4.3 rom? Just restore a nandroid.
No it is updated officially to 4.3, so has the new bootloader.
So can't reverse the bootloader, but the question is can I install 4.1.2 based rom now?
All I did. Was odin the rooted stock 4.1.2 put on cwm and flashed rom
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I was going to say just use Odin to return to stock JB. I found that advice in a thread about this for at&t, but later on the thread a Canadian user said it worked for him.
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I was going to say just use Odin to return to stock JB. I found that advice in a thread about this for at&t, but later on the thread a Canadian user said it worked for him.
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how do u reset knox counter
Canadoc said:
how do u reset knox counter
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Not possible....
The bootloader would need a downgrade...and so far....we can't do that.....g
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I updated to 4.3 BTU using dn3 as the bootloader. I did something wrong and ended up with the bog standard 4.3 without the extra Note 3 stuff and knox enabled.
Basically can I still update the bootloader to dn3?
I'm not bothered about triggering knox because I already have by rooting.
Thankyou
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simacca said:
I updated to 4.3 BTU using dn3 as the bootloader. I did something wrong and ended up with the bog standard 4.3 without the extra Note 3 stuff and knox enabled.
Basically can I still update the bootloader to dn3?
I'm not bothered about triggering knox because I already have by rooting.
Thankyou
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DN3 Is a complete rom and it doesn't flash the bootloader it keeps the old one you had , you should go to the original tread and read it before you decide to start flashing or you will brick your phone.
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I have a note 2 I am running 4.4.2 Probam and love it. I just bought another note 2 for my wife and its 4.1.2. I plan on rooting but probably no custom ROMs. Just debloating on my own. Should I update to 4.3 or stay at where I am?
I have never updated my bootloader and use 4.3 touchwiz ROMs fine with devil kernel. What's my best move from some expertise experience. Not a nooby but not a developer. Thanks
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Jsouthernindiana said:
I have a note 2 I am running 4.4.2 Probam and love it. I just bought another note 2 for my wife and its 4.1.2. I plan on rooting but probably no custom ROMs. Just debloating on my own. Should I update to 4.3 or stay at where I am?
I have never updated my bootloader and use 4.3 touchwiz ROMs fine with devil kernel. What's my best move from some expertise experience. Not a nooby but not a developer. Thanks
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It honestly depends on ur plans for that phone. If u never plan on rooting it I would definitely update to 4.3 using the ota. But that's just a personal opinion. If ur planning on rooting I wouldn't update to 4.3 using the ATT ota. If u update to ota 4.3 anytime u use odin it will trip the Knox counter. And then chance for a warranty replacement if u need it is slim to none. If ur planning on rooting there a a few really solid TW 4.3 roms out there with no worries about Knox.
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4.1.2 is solid. Since it's your wife's phone, personal experience allows me to say leave it be. Lord help me if Candy Crush doesn't work.....
But you have an option.
A time saver to get to 4.3 and rooted on your current bootloader would be this.,,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2589891
AT&T UCUBMK6 i317 *Odexed* Stock ODIN Note 2
It's already rooted, all you have to do is debloat with Titanium BU or whatever.
From the thread -----> If you *are not* running Official 4.3 (MK6) or newer bootloader: After flashing one of the firmware packages above (the Stock ODIN) flash the bootloader package below in Odin to get wifi working (sorry, no option available for CWM/TWRP). I've included the Odin executable just after if needed.
Bootloader needs to be flashed only once. See post #2 for information on how to check what version of bootloader you have installed.
This is what you will flash:
AT&T i317 ODIN 4.3 UCUBMJ4 (Leak) Bootloader & TZ (AT&T Note 2 ONLY)
This bootloader will not trip Knox.
Thanks. Not worried about warranties. I rooted it at 4.1.2. I'd I update OTA to 4.3 am I still able to put a custom recovery on it? Kinda confused if the 4.3 update locks the bootloader and lastly wasn't the at&t s4 bootloader able to be unlocked when it first came out? Soon after a OTA broke the root. If so then why wouldn't a brand new one out of box be able to have bootloader unlocked just as the phones come with the same firmware version and not updated until bought. Just wondering.
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Thanks. Not worried about warranties. I rooted it at 4.1.2. I'd I update OTA to 4.3 am I still able to put a custom recovery on it? Kinda confused if the 4.3 update locks the bootloader and lastly wasn't the at&t s4 bootloader able to be unlocked when it first came out? Soon after a OTA broke the root. If so then why wouldn't a brand new one out of box be able to have bootloader unlocked just as the phones come with the same firmware version and not updated until bought. Just wondering.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2589891
Check this here, it should answer your questions.
I am not too sure about the S4.
I recently got a refurbished Note 2 that came with the 4.3 firmware (my original note 2 broke), MK6 booloader. According to this link, If your phone is running the MK6 bootloader, It is not possible AS OF NOW to revert to the previous bootloader MJ4. You can put CWM recovery and custom roms on your 4.3 build but I don't think they are too stable as of now. I have not tried it yet.
I have at&t note 2 and never updated to 4.3 like I said before but when I flashed a 4.3 tw ROM WiFi wouldnt work like you said. Instead of doing the Odin bootloader thing I just flashed the devel kernel and everything went good. WiFi works flawless. Devil kernel works on toichwiz and aosp. My question is would it be better to do that and leave the bootloader alone?
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The note 2 I got last Friday is 4.1.2. The only reason I didn't get the note 3 is this whole bootloader crap. T-Mobile is really starting to look good from here
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To not confuse. I have had my note 2. Just got my wife the other one. I don't think I am going to update it at all. Just to make sure I rooted hers with framaroot and stopped any ota 4.3 from slipping by.
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One last question. Not sure if we already touched this or not. On your at&t 4.3 note 2 can you put a custom recovery cwm?
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Jsouthernindiana said:
One last question. Not sure if we already touched this or not. On your at&t 4.3 note 2 can you put a custom recovery cwm?
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How did you flash the devils kernel ? ODIN ?
And the answer is yes you can.
Hello all...
I have a note 2 with stock firmware android 4.3, and unfortunately with knox, I did root, with chainfire auto root and does not work superSu!!!
It do not has root acces!!!
does anyone know what I need to do, please?
I would like to know if I can unroot and install stock firmware with android 4.1.2 I do not have any issue?
I will be waiting for your help, thanks
I know that you are very busy, but can anyone help me with this, please?
Is my question in wrong place?
Do you have access to custom recovery. If so flash a custom 4.3 rom. Ill recommend the s.w.a.r.m rom
If not ill google how to downgrade to 4.1.2 or google how to get rid of knox
If you want to stay stock flash Mr Robinsons rom, it is stock, rooted and Knox-free.
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ciphercodes said:
If you want to stay stock flash Mr Robinsons rom, it is stock, rooted and Knox-free.
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How is Mr Robinsons rom on your phone???
ce321 said:
How is Mr Robinsons rom on your phone???
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My phone is stock rooted but not on Mr Robinson's. Performance wise it should be same or better than stock ROM since it's the stock ROM.
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If you want to stay stock flash Mr Robinsons rom, it is stock, rooted and Knox-free.
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Thank you for your answer, the issue is that it do not has any root access!
Can I downgrade of 4.3 to 4.1.2?
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Thank you for your answer, the issue is that it do not has any root access!
Can I downgrade of 4.3 to 4.1.2?
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Are you saying the MrRobinson's ROM isn't rooted ? Did you try the version 2 he posted ? I know that the first one had some issues.
If you are on 4.1.2 and only use PC odin for flashing then you can flash this stock rooted, knox-free ROM I uploaded here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2636552
This ROM will not update your bootloader and you can switch back to 4.1.2 using PC odin.
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Are you saying the MrRobinson's ROM isn't rooted ? Did you try the version 2 he posted ? I know that the first one had some issues.
If you are on 4.1.2 and only use PC odin for flashing then you can flash this stock rooted, knox-free ROM I uploaded here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2636552
This ROM will not update your bootloader and you can switch back to 4.1.2 using PC odin.
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You do not understand me, right now it has 4.3 stock Rom with Knox, and I did root with chainfire auto-root, but does not work!
It do not has any root access, is impossible flash custom recovery.
Can I unroot, and install via Odin stock firmware 4.1.2, it has any issue?
I appreciated your help.
No problem,
You can install Mr Robinsons root 66 rom, make sure you download the v2 version and you will be all set.
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No problem,
You can install Mr Robinsons root 66 rom, make sure you download the v2 version and you will be all set.
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But, Can I flash anhoter Rom?
If I downgrade via Odin, with stock firmware, android 4.1.2. Can I?
Because I would like to flash some cm Rom.
Your phone is already on 4.3 bootloader and there is no way to downgrade that.
But you can still flash any 4.1.2 ROM'S as long as you do not flash the bootloader. Almost all custom ROM's come without bootloader so you should be able to flash them via CWM,TWRP or mobile din.
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I don't care about Tripping knox, or voiding any warranty.
Outside of that, is the 4.4.2 bootloader locked? Meaning, can I easily flash a custom recovery TWRP or CWM? Are you able to downgrade the firmware at any point, or are you locked in doing that?
I had an AT&T S4 but got tired of it's locked bootloader, so I sold it and I am back on my S3 for now. I was considering picking up a new T-mobile s4 and then unlocking it for AT&T, but I wanted to be sure it was an unlocked bootloader on 4.4.2 before I did.
Thanks.
It's unlocked, the only thing you can't do is downgrade the firmware but you can still flash 4.2.2 or 4.3 ROMs
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It's unlocked, the only thing you can't do is downgrade the firmware but you can still flash 4.2.2 or 4.3 ROMs
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Okay, sounds great. I don't have any particular need to go back to something lower than 4.4.2, so that is really no big deal. I am just trying to get myself educated on where the phone is limited.
Thanks.
EDIT: So your are saying that I would not be able to downgrade to an official 4.3 firmware for example via odin, but I could use twrp to flash a custom 4.3 based rom. Just making sure I understand you correctly.
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Okay, sounds great. I don't have any particular need to go back to something lower than 4.4.2, so that is really no big deal. I am just trying to get myself educated on where the phone is limited.
Thanks.
EDIT: So your are saying that I would not be able to downgrade to an official 4.3 firmware for example via odin, but I could use twrp to flash a custom 4.3 based rom. Just making sure I understand you correctly.
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4.3 i believe still works as it holds the newer bootloader. But 4.2 you will need to use a ROM zip to install that one. If you try in Odin it fails due to signature headers not matching in the bootloader.
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EDIT: So your are saying that I would not be able to downgrade to an official 4.3 firmware for example via odin, but I could use twrp to flash a custom 4.3 based rom. Just making sure I understand you correctly.
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Yup, that's exactly what I'm saying ?
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4.3 i believe still works as it holds the newer bootloader. But 4.2 you will need to use a ROM zip to install that one. If you try in Odin it fails due to signature headers not matching in the bootloader.
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Any stock firmware below 4.4.2 will cause FC's problems and/or soft brick.
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Kriptik210 said:
Any stock firmware below 4.4.2 will cause FC's problems and/or soft brick.
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lol
Kriptik210 said:
Any stock firmware below 4.4.2 will cause FC's problems and/or soft brick.
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Actually, it will just give you a fail message in Odin
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Actually, it will just give you a fail message in Odin
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Then I must have tried a different firmware. I swear it was stock 4.2.2
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Then I must have tried a different firmware. I swear it was stock 4.2.2
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That will fail in Odin. No way will it cause a brick.
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I read somewhere that flashing even an untouched Samsung 4.4.2 firmware though Odin would trip Knox. Can anyone confirm that??
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Shaftamle said:
I read somewhere that flashing even an untouched Samsung 4.4.2 firmware though Odin would trip Knox. Can anyone confirm that??
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The Knox flag is only tripped when you flash a non-stock Recovery. If you only flash stock ROMs, it will not trip Knox.
However, some Root methods install a non-stock Recovery and this will trip the flag.
Rob
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The Knox flag is only tripped when you flash a non-stock Recovery. If you only flash stock ROMs, it will not trip Knox.
However, some Root methods install a non-stock Recovery and this will trip the flag.
Rob
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Thanks man. I don't know to much about Knox because I have an MDK Verizon s4. I'm researching this for my girl. Thanks for clarifying. So it sounds like towel root with no recovery is a safe plan. Thanks again.
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Thanks man. I don't know to much about Knox because I have an MDK Verizon s4. I'm researching this for my girl. Thanks for clarifying. So it sounds like towel root with no recovery is a safe plan. Thanks again.
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Let us know how it worked. I rooted before TowelRoot was available, and wanted a non-stock Recovery so was fine with the Knox flag being set.
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