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Thinking about G Pad instead of Nexus 7..

Hey guys.
So I have owned a Nexus 7 2013 for more than 8 months now, and having upgraded to it from the 2012 model - I am absolutely in love with the tablet: its weight, its formfactor, its screen, and so on, so I don't regret spending 600$ on it
But recently I though about having a bigger screen in a rather easy-to-use device as far as the weight and portability goes, and my Nexus 10 doesn't quite fit the criteria because it is a 10" tablet and it weighs ~600g, which is twice as much as N7 weighs, so it's not a great bed companion
And then I remembered about this thing - the G Pad 8.3, and it certainly looks like the best Android tablet in this formfactor. But having looked through the specs - I found that it has only 16 gigs of internal storage (as comparded to 32gigs on my N7) even though it has a Micro SD support
But with KitKAt I heard that Google broke the access to external storage, meaning that I'm left with these 16gigs only
Anyways - here's my question: is it worth switching over to the G Pad from the Nexus 7?
I like that both tablets have same screen resolution, that they are still fairly light (~330g for G Pad), and I'm not afraid of losing mobile data capabilities, since I use my N7 at home where I always have my WiFi enabled
But I'm kinda afraid about the internal/external storage - is it true that I'll run out of space pretty quickly just by installing big games and lots of apps? How does this tablet (or, well, any KK device with SD support) handle the two storages?
I saw a module for better handling of external storage - but still, does it mean that the games will store their caches (like Asphalt 8) on the extSD instead of internal storage?
That is pretty much my only concern regarding this device, as I saw that the development is fairly active so I will probably not be much behind the Nexus line as far as AOSP builds go (especially since it's officially supported by CM)
Thanks in advance

Fatal1ty_18_RUS said:
Hey guys.
So I have owned a Nexus 7 2013 for more than 8 months now, and having upgraded to it from the 2012 model - I am absolutely in love with the tablet: its weight, its formfactor, its screen, and so on, so I don't regret spending 600$ on it
But recently I though about having a bigger screen in a rather easy-to-use device as far as the weight and portability goes, and my Nexus 10 doesn't quite fit the criteria because it is a 10" tablet and it weighs ~600g, which is twice as much as N7 weighs, so it's not a great bed companion
And then I remembered about this thing - the G Pad 8.3, and it certainly looks like the best Android tablet in this formfactor. But having looked through the specs - I found that it has only 16 gigs of internal storage (as comparded to 32gigs on my N7) even though it has a Micro SD support
But with KitKAt I heard that Google broke the access to external storage, meaning that I'm left with these 16gigs only
Anyways - here's my question: is it worth switching over to the G Pad from the Nexus 7?
I like that both tablets have same screen resolution, that they are still fairly light (~330g for G Pad), and I'm not afraid of losing mobile data capabilities, since I use my N7 at home where I always have my WiFi enabled
But I'm kinda afraid about the internal/external storage - is it true that I'll run out of space pretty quickly just by installing big games and lots of apps? How does this tablet (or, well, any KK device with SD support) handle the two storages?
I saw a module for better handling of external storage - but still, does it mean that the games will store their caches (like Asphalt 8) on the extSD instead of internal storage?
That is pretty much my only concern regarding this device, as I saw that the development is fairly active so I will probably not be much behind the Nexus line as far as AOSP builds go (especially since it's officially supported by CM)
Thanks in advance
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if u root the g pad they have a mod to fix the SD card issue so you could utilize the external SD card
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raw2000j said:
if u root the g pad they have a mod to fix the SD card issue so you could utilize the external SD card
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Really?! Give me that! I am on CM 11 and I've been looking for that thing for AGES!
BTW, OP: after trying both n7 2013 and g pad I can clearly say the g pad is much more superior IMO, much better speakers, that 1.3" change in screen makes a big difference (a whole lot better), build quality is better... All of that only if you root it and install Infected's CM 11 Custom build which is crazy fast, stock rom is **** and if you're not going with CM 11 just stick with the n7.
BTW, how did you spend 600$ on it when it is 350$ for 32 gigs + 3G model?
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I would hold out to see if Google announced the nexus 8 next week.
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EdenGottlieb said:
All of that only if you root it and install Infected's CM 11 Custom build which is crazy fast, stock rom is **** and if you're not going with CM 11 just stick with the n7.
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I disagree with that - if you disable all the LG bloat (easy to do) and use a custom launcher, it is a very slick and polished ROM.
And of course with root and Xposed, you can customize all you wish.
I'm sure CM11 is great too, but the stock KK ROM is actually pretty solid

EdenGottlieb said:
Really?! Give me that! I am on CM 11 and I've been looking for that thing for AGES!
BTW, OP: after trying both n7 2013 and g pad I can clearly say the g pad is much more superior IMO, much better speakers, that 1.3" change in screen makes a big difference (a whole lot better), build quality is better... All of that only if you root it and install Infected's CM 11 Custom build which is crazy fast, stock rom is **** and if you're not going with CM 11 just stick with the n7.
BTW, how did you spend 600$ on it when it is 350$ for 32 gigs + 3G model?
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For external storage I know there is an Xposed module called HandleExternalStorage, but I still don't know if 16gigs is an issue, I have my N10 fully loaded at 32gigs and have about 7 gigs of free space on my N7 with also 32gigs, that's why I need to make sure that big games can drop their caches (all the assets and stuff) onto external SD card, or else I am pretty much left with, like, 16 1GB games, and that is a big no go, not counting apps
Yeah, I saw there is a CM11 build available, and as far as I know it's officially supported by CM, so I wouldn't have trouble with putting AOSP on this thing
And in Russia N7 LTE costed 550-600$ when it first came out, now it's down to about 450$. Sadly Google hasn't launched Play Devices here yet, and G Pad here is actually almost 100$ less expensive than N7!
killerapl said:
I would hold out to see if Google announced the nexus 8 next week.
HTC One M8
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Of course, if there is Nexus 8 - I am probably jumping ship on that thing, otherwise I am going for a G Pad
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I disagree with that - if you disable all the LG bloat (easy to do) and use a custom launcher, it is a very slick and polished ROM.
And of course with root and Xposed, you can customize all you wish.
I'm sure CM11 is great too, but the stock KK ROM is actually pretty solid
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Personally I don't like LG's UI. They do have a lot of neat features (and maybe future updates will bring stuff from G3 as well like more navbar buttons and such), but the interface is general is not to my liking - I prefer the AOSP and its vanilla Holo UI.

[Q] Upgrading from Samsung Galaxy S3

The Samsung Galaxy S3 has served me well, but it now seems to struggle. Some apps seem to be processor limited, then they open the default web browser and when exiting the browser I find the app restarts which I assume is because of lack of memory.
Likewise, Google Maps can get very sluggish and use up lots of memory when driving a route of over an hours duration. Google could probably make it better, but unlikely if it works OK on more modern phones.
So I'm considering an upgrade to the LG G3, which would mean doubling the RAM from 1GB to 2GB and upping the processor from 1.5Ghz to 2.5Ghz.
Would this make things better? Or is the amount of RAM allocated to user apps similar and so I'll still have the same problems?
I keep seeing people talk about overheating issues and cracks, are these really a problem ?

speckles said:
The Samsung Galaxy S3 has served me well, but it now seems to struggle. Some apps seem to be processor limited, then they open the default web browser and when exiting the browser I find the app restarts which I assume is because of lack of memory.
Likewise, Google Maps can get very sluggish and use up lots of memory when driving a route of over an hours duration. Google could probably make it better, but unlikely if it works OK on more modern phones.
So I'm considering an upgrade to the LG G3, which would mean doubling the RAM from 1GB to 2GB and upping the processor from 1.5Ghz to 2.5Ghz.
Would this make things better? Or is the amount of RAM allocated to user apps similar and so I'll still have the same problems?
I keep seeing people talk about overheating issues and cracks, are these really a problem ?
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I haven't had a Galaxy SIII. Otherwise I come from a iPhone 4s, and before this I had a Sony-Ericsson Arc S. Personally speaking, I had a lot of problems with the Xperia: continuous rebooting, RAM limits, not software updates, etc. So I felt let down by Android, and I decide to switch to another platform. I can tell that the iPhone worked just fine, but I never felt comfortable in such a closed OS. Reading about technology and gadgets I realized that in three years Android had improved enough and it had become a very mature platform, so I came back to android. I chose the LG G3, because of the good reviews and the better price/value ratio, and I cant tell you that this was a very good decision. To sum up, the LG G3 is a very good device in every single aspect. It's cute, light and has an incredibly screen. Even with its huge 5.5' qHD screen, it's easily one hand managed. I heard complaints about poor battery life, overheating issues and lags. In contrast I never had one single issue: no lags, no overheating, great battery life and an incredible performance.
Last but not least the G3 has matured enough in the community to have a great developer support. Right now you can install Stock based Lollipop ROMs that will make your experience with this phone even better.
I bought my phone in July 2014. If, right now, I'd have to buy a new phone, it'd be the LG G3, again.

I came from S3. Totally new life with G3. No regrets.

I upgraded from an S3 too, no regrets whatshowever, the camera is a bit slower but the quality is so much better. As well as that, the screen is awesome! I strongly advise you to do so

I also upgrade from S3 to G3 (so many 3's )... The difference is huge. Much faster, great screen and not so big (for me is ok).
The only thing that dissapoint me is that in S3 we have so many roms, kernels, tweaks, etc etc and in G3 there are few (but goods )
So, for me, the upgrade is a Must and i'm really happy with that...

If you could get your hands on the 3GB ram version I would highly advise that to make it more future proof (you seem like a guy who wanna keep his phone for a while).

Thanks all, couldn't find a 3GB version, but ebuyer seem to be the cheapest, so bought it from there. Now just need to get them to actually deliver it. They've said they shipped via Yodel, which are not known for good customer service. Last package someone sent via them they lost!
I'll probably have lots of questions once I've got it!

[Q] 1+1 or ZF2

I am sitting here wondering if I should upgrade from the 1+1 to the rumored 128GB ZF2 when it releases.
Couple of questions though,
How is using a 128GB SDXC in the phone to those that use one?
Is the camera really THAT bad?
While I know that the bootloader is currently locked and nothing in the pipeline, so far, to show that it is going to even get CM when it does release. What is the stock rom like sans ASUS apps?
Given the history of ASUS flash in the Transformer models and the Nexus, does it seem like this one is going to have similar issues or have they solved that too with this phone?
Did anyone actually come from a 1+1 by chance? What are you thoughts in comparison to it and the ZF2.
Cheers

pyrocide said:
I am sitting here wondering if I should upgrade from the 1+1 to the rumored 128GB ZF2 when it releases.
Couple of questions though,
How is using a 128GB SDXC in the phone to those that use one?
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I have a 32GB mSD in my ZF2 and it works fine. What issues are you concerned about? Mine is currently full of music and no problems.
pyrocide said:
Is the camera really THAT bad?
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Camera works fine. It's better than the camera I have on the OPO when I first got that phone. I prefer the camera on the ZF2 at the moment for auto shots than my OPO with ColorOS and tweaks.
pyrocide said:
While I know that the bootloader is currently locked and nothing in the pipeline, so far, to show that it is going to even get CM when it does release. What is the stock rom like sans ASUS apps?
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I think the stock Asus apps are a decent alternative if you want to stay away from Google apps for the most part. They do however seem redundant if you do use Google apps and services to some degree. There are some apps that are useless for the most part and should be uninstalled or disabled. I'm on a pre-rooted image and have some disabled but not all of them and my ram usage and performance are fine. Typically about 1GB of ram usage maybe 1.5GB. That's with over half still enabled and installed.
pyrocide said:
Given the history of ASUS flash in the Transformer models and the Nexus, does it seem like this one is going to have similar issues or have they solved that too with this phone?
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I'm not sure what you're talking about. All companies have horrible track records in my experience to a degree. Some are just better than others at this stretch of time or are new. No clue how Asus tablet/laptop will translate into phones. This will likely be the most popular mobile device they have ever had imo.
pyrocide said:
Did anyone actually come from a 1+1 by chance? What are you thoughts in comparison to it and the ZF2.
Cheers
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I own two OPO 64GB SS Blacks and a ZE551ML 64GB/4GB ZF2. OPO's are running CM12.1 nightlies and the other is on CM12S. My ZF2 is faster than my OPO phones on WiFi and installing in general. Data rates on TMO and ATT MVNO's (Cricket/Net10/TMO) also bench faster than the OPO's in my area. Gaming is another area where it just demolishes everything. I've put it up against multiple G3's a Nexus 4/5 (own a 4 still) an S6 Edge. If you do any sort of gaming on a mobile device this appears to be the cream of the crop so far. I'm still playing around with a bunch of emulators that folks have mentioned here on the forums. That seems to be hit or miss atm but should improve since most of it is ARM.

I was specially talking about the 128GB micro sdxc card in the slot. Any performance degradation?
I hated ColorOS and wasn't to fond of the progress that CM11s was making with the issues it had like battery drain and WiFi issues. I put CM11 then 12 and hadn't had any problems. Got any photos you can share using opo and zf2 in comparison?
I like slim ROMs. Minimal crapware installed and least amount of apps running and prefer Google apps over proprietary. Id be interested in seeing performance difference, especially battery, from fat stock to slim stock.
IIRC, the reason i didn't buy one, the flash storage on the android transformer was riddled with issues and slowed down drastically after prolonged use. I just hope its not the same here.
I game, a lot, on the OPO. Many are emulators too, epsxe specifically (FF7 & 9). Reason I bought it was for the ram and gaming benchmarks as well as the price was just crazy for the specs. I unfortunately got the yellow band on mine and since OPO support that is nonexistent, it kind of left a bad taste and steering me away from the OP2.
I really like the specs but it had been my experience that the stock ROMs that come on any phone that I have owned all sucked and had to be flashed to become worth its weight.

I am running a 128 gb sd without any problems

pyrocide said:
I was specially talking about the 128GB micro sdxc card in the slot. Any performance degradation?
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Ok, I misunderstood then. I don't have a 128GB mSD to try just 32GB or under laying around my house.
pyrocide said:
I hated ColorOS and wasn't to fond of the progress that CM11s was making with the issues it had like battery drain and WiFi issues. I put CM11 then 12 and hadn't had any problems. Got any photos you can share using opo and zf2 in comparison?
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I tried ColorOS briefly but couldn't stick with it. I did however use the ColorOS Camera port to the OPO which seemed to improve things to a degree with the camera. Sorry I wasn't more specific.
pyrocide said:
I like slim ROMs. Minimal crapware installed and least amount of apps running and prefer Google apps over proprietary. Id be interested in seeing performance difference, especially battery, from fat stock to slim stock.
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I generally lean towards ROMs like you describe. Nexus 4 favorite was Dirty Unicorns or SlimKat with Franco or some other kernel (boeffla? can't recall). I still prefer them to any Lollipop base I've run across. It might change in the future who knows.
pyrocide said:
IIRC, the reason i didn't buy one, the flash storage on the android transformer was riddled with issues and slowed down drastically after prolonged use. I just hope its not the same here.
I game, a lot, on the OPO. Many are emulators too, epsxe specifically (FF7 & 9). Reason I bought it was for the ram and gaming benchmarks as well as the price was just crazy for the specs. I unfortunately got the yellow band on mine and since OPO support that is nonexistent, it kind of left a bad taste and steering me away from the OP2.
I really like the specs but it had been my experience that the stock ROMs that come on any phone that I have owned all sucked and had to be flashed to become worth its weight.
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I don't have prior experience with Asus products besides motherboards and other products for desktop PC or routers specifically. Routers like the N56U and 66U were one of the best routers you could have (I own multiple). Gaming is top notch on this phone. I'm not kidding when I say this thing handles better than even the most expensive Samsungs out today. Agree with you on stock experiences. This phone has pre-rooted images you can flash. Uninstall or disable anything you want. Custom ROM wise it won't be as fast as other communities because like the OPO which shares hardware with the G3 and many others there just isn't the like here. It would also help if Asus gets the sources out and makes sure we're unlocked .

Short response... If you are going for a OPO, you're going for a device that is over an year old! On the contrary Zenfone was released just a few months back.
There are many things you lose by purchasing an older device, which I am sure you have common sense to understand.

I switched from OPO mainly because I had the digitizer issues with touchscreen and OPO had tendency to heat up and throttle a lot and the heat would exacerbate the touch response issues.
If you're happy with your OPO and have no issues with it, why not wait to see what's released in fall with new Nexus phones before upgrading?

thedisturbedone said:
Short response... If you are going for a OPO, you're going for a device that is over an year old! On the contrary Zenfone was released just a few months back.
There are many things you lose by purchasing an older device, which I am sure you have common sense to understand.
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I already have the OPO

pyrocide said:
I already have the OPO
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If you play mobile games or emulators then there would be an improvement over the OPO. If you don't then I would wait it out and see what gets released by this fall. It definitely games better than my OPO. G3 would be a sidegrade/upgrade even though it's near identical to an OPO. Screen is better has mSD support looks better and the camera is nice. I've seen plenty of nused G3's in the 300 range.

still relevant today for a low to mid range phone

I'm looking to change my iphone 5c. I know the performance of the two phones is almost the same.
This would be my first Samsung. I'm a bit scared of switching because friends of mine had S4 (not mini) variants with major issues including replacement of mainboard).
The reason I am looking at this phone is that I want something with more freedom and future proofing ( removable battery, sdcard, nfc, IR ) and a bigger screen, while being around the $150-$200 price range
So:
Would anyone recommend buying it today?
Has anyone used this phone more than a year or two? I'm looking for a phone to last me at least 2-3 years, as I don't change them that often.
How is the rom availability and performance and stability of the available custom roms?

The s4 mini is a decent old phone. It is compact, it is powerfull enough to do most of the work we do on smartphones in 2016.
It has an excellent (A+) development community. You will surely love the little features like removable battery, sd card, ir blaster etc.
I have used them a lot. Battery life on this phone, from my experience is just above average. Although my phone now suffers some ghost drain.
The phone has official cyanogenmod 13 support which is phenomenal. Some high end phones still do not have that support.
In terms of stability as of now cm12.1 is the most stable and all roms based on cm12.1, like aicp, ressurection remix etc are very stable and daily driver
worthy. CM13 will be stable soon. The work devs put into this phone almost makes me cry, :crying: Samsung takes money and gives no updates, while
these awesome guys do it for free, with limited resources.
The performance of this phone is adequate for most 2016 needs as i said earlier. Recently i ran antutu while on cm13, I got a score of 33K. Which is on par
with most midrange chipsets these days that have 8-10 cores Not that benchmarks matter a lot, but real world usage is brilliant. I have very few lags or
memory issues with this phone. It holds up really good with moderate-slightly heavy usage. But ofcourse with really hardcore use, phone may stutter here and
there. But performance for a midrange phone from 2013,... this is great.

Samsung more or less maxed out the technology on the S4. There's very little the S5+ offer over the S4 and even regression in some categories. The S6 might have more cores and memory, but it handles tasks poorly and can't be modded. The S5 has useless bloat features and no real RAM or processor update over the S4. Most of the "innovation" now is cosmetic.
The S4 Mini might not have the best camera, but specs-wise it's comparable to the full power S3 LTE, with the S4 interface. With CyanogenMod's Lolipop/Marshmallow roms and the Brazilian Kitkat bootloader, there is no fear of being locked into a specific ROM, as you can flash from JellyBean through Marshmallow without problem.
It's an underrated phone. I don't agree with sansak that the development community is A+, because these forums are rather quiet for such a modable phone. The phone is thankfully still supported among other things.
Is it relevant? Very yes. Just because it's "old" does not mean "bad". Galaxy S quality plateaued after the S4.

Still worth buying?

I'm currently using an HTC One M7. It's still a decent phone, there are even pretty stable Nougat Roms available for it. But it is noticeable struggling when it comes to more demanding tasks. No surprise really, since it's a more than 4 year old phone.
So would you guys say, that the 5X is still worth buying? How is its overall performance? Especially now with Android O?
Thanks in advance!

Haven't used Android O. I don't recommend the phone because there is always a chance of bootlooping. If you are willing to roll the dice then it is a very good phone after modding it. If you want to keep everything stock then it's probably better to get a newer phone with stock android.

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Haven't used Android O. I don't recommend the phone because there is always a chance of bootlooping. If you are willing to roll the dice then it is a very good phone after modding it. If you want to keep everything stock then it's probably better to get a newer phone with stock android.
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I read there was this bootloop issue, but didn't do much reading on it. Is it a hardware issue?
Flashing a custom Rom/rooting it would be the first thing I'd do with the phone.

Marc199 said:
I read there was this bootloop issue, but didn't do much reading on it. Is it a hardware issue?
Flashing a custom Rom/rooting it would be the first thing I'd do with the phone.
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Yeah it's a hardware issue- basically a low-quality soldering job from Qualcomm. Basically the big cluster of A57 cores eventually fail- though this can be rectified with a custom boot.img/kernel.
I recently purchased a Google-refurb 5X simply for O support (and it was extremely cheap), and it's a fantastic phone. However, as a long term device I can't recommend it.

negusp said:
Yeah it's a hardware issue- basically a low-quality soldering job from Qualcomm. Basically the big cluster of A57 cores eventually fail- though this can be rectified with a custom boot.img/kernel.
I recently purchased a Google-refurb 5X simply for O support (and it was extremely cheap), and it's a fantastic phone. However, as a long term device I can't recommend it.
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Well, this is obviously not great. But if this is fixable, it might not be as bad.
Official O-support is one of the main reasons I am thinking about buying it. And since the 5X is also out for quite a while now it's not supposed to be a long term solution.

Marc199 said:
Well, this is obviously not great. But if this is fixable, it might not be as bad.
Official O-support is one of the main reasons I am thinking about buying it. And since the 5X is also out for quite a while now it's not supposed to be a long term solution.
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It's not within the ability of a normal person to fix (ie: reflow/repair the solder joints permanently); however, running the CPU with only the small cores (which is essentially the "fix" for the bootloop) should mitigate the problem beyond the practical lifespan of the device.
I'm perfectly happy with a bit of a performance hit- the camera, fingerprint scanner, speakers, dev support, and notification LED are all heckin amazing.

No, I would not recommend it, there are plenty of faster phones that you can get for around the same price. Plus the boot loop issue

I use N5X since 1y. For my low usage it's fine and stays cool, so I exspect still 2y without bootloop. But 2GB RAM will be or become a bottleneck. Remain the fast Andeoid updates - look here for devices, which got Oreo yet.

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I use N5X since 1y. For my low usage it's fine and stays cool, so I exspect still 2y without bootloop. But 2GB RAM will be or become a bottleneck. Remain the fast Andeoid updates - look here for devices, which got Oreo yet.
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Yeah, don't know what Google was thinking when they decided to only put 2 GB of Ram in it.
Well, seems like I shouldn't buy it. Guess I'll wait for the Pixel to become a bit cheaper.

I am quite happy with this phone, though due to 2 things (only 2GB of RAM and no SD card) I'll move to some of the Android One models as soon as they're available in Europe, most probably Xiaomi Mi A1 (as long as one can unlock bootloader and root it without issues). I want to stay with clean Android and guaranteed, early and periodic updates. Not too many choices out there, Pixel is too expensive for me.

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I am quite happy with this phone, though due to 2 things (only 2GB of RAM and no SD card) I'll move to some of the Android One models as soon as they're available in Europe, most probably Xiaomi Mi A1 (as long as one can unlock bootloader and root it without issues). I want to stay with clean Android and guaranteed, early and periodic updates. Not too many choices out there, Pixel is too expensive for me.
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I'd say exactly that. Been using The n5x for 1 year now but thre 2GB of RAM + the SD808 are just too old to compete with devices like the Mi A1. Surely the SD625 isnt a highend soc but it should perform better then the SD808 because of the 4GB of RAM. I personally will wait until End of the year and maybe buy the Mi Mix 2 if i get it for around 350€. We will see.

The 5X runs Oreo and is scheduled to receive monthly security updates for a year. This alone makes it still a relevant smartphone. One year from now you will certainly see much newer phones still without Oreo. The form, size, and fingerprint reader are near perfect for me. Its biggest limitation is having only 2GB of RAM which affects multitasking. This is most obvious when you use a web browser for a while and then switch back to other tasks because there is an obvious delay which means that the app is being reloaded.

It's like having a $200+ brick, mine bootlooped in the worst moment possible. Overall is a great phone if you are willing to live with the uncertainty of when its going to bootloop. Save your money and buy something better.

Bought mines mines in june 2016, using it till this date, no bootloop problem (as yet hopefully), totally worth the price imo just make sure you enable oem unlocking in the dev menu in case something happens.

I wouldn't recommend this phone, and overall any LG phone. I didn't get the bootloop issue yet but I read A LOT about it and it seems it will come for you one day for sure, usually after 1 year. The only other serious problem with this phone is the overheating, it overheats even if I don't do anything. Only after chatting with a friend for ~20 minutes on messenger with no other apps running, the phone gets hot. Games are even worse...
Next, the phone is fine with most games but don't expect to run all the AAA games on higher than Low (Modern Combat 5, Minecraft [barely], Mortal Kombat, Asphalts, Gangstar...). Android O is mostly fine, has some issues here and there but nothing too serious IMO.