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Just wondering if they ever updated Kingo sending information...i wanna root but this seems the safest way/ only way to root in not tripping Knox. In the end...from what it sounds like it does doesn't sound like the worst...but curious
There has been some dialogue between XDA and Kingo staff. However, there are always issues when using third party software. I suggest you do some more reading, even off of XDA for that matter, to get fully informed.
The issue is about IMEI data being sent, which Kingo now/recently alleges has been removed, I humbly suggest ALL users go with caution, and remember that if you brick your fancy device, DO NOT resort to fraud, own your issues. Be adults.
use root de la vega. That's what I used. Pretty simple. Follow instructions and you should be fine. Keeps your knox intact with root.
I know of no issue I rooted using kingo a month or 2 ago with no problems.
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teshxx said:
use root de la vega. That's what I used. Pretty simple. Follow instructions and you should be fine. Keeps your knox intact with root.
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not anymore, in the disclaimer said my version would trip knox (came preupdated)
Are you on T-Mobile n900t?
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teshxx said:
use root de la vega. That's what I used. Pretty simple. Follow instructions and you should be fine. Keeps your knox intact with root.
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Unless you're unlucky enough to have recently purchased a Note with the updated firmware preinstalled.
Zhuge_Liang said:
Unless you're unlucky enough to have recently purchased a Note with the updated firmware preinstalled.
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This is the T-Mobile forum... there has not been an Updated Firmware released for the SM-900T yet. So this is not (yet) an issue. Personally, I would just use the KingoRoot process.
krelvinaz said:
This is the T-Mobile forum... there has not been an Updated Firmware released for the SM-900T yet. So this is not (yet) an issue. Personally, I would just use the KingoRoot process.
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Yeah, I realized that after the fact. My bad.
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How to root p600 (32gb) P600XXUBMJ6 without tripping the Knox?
As far as I know, there isn't a way yet.
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What about for the 605 LTE version?
I just root it using CF-AUTO Root, after it was tripped by just flashing the stock firmware again using Odin.
while there are no roms available for the note 2014, id still like to root for a couple apps. specifically, the external ntfs drive mounter. because there is not a way to root without tripping knox i will eagerly sit tight. good work though beans! :good:
DeBoX said:
What about for the 605 LTE version?
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A few weeks ago it was possible to root the P605 without tripping Knox using Root de la Vega. However one of the software updates changed something apparently, and the Vega files were pulled. Hopefully there will be an updated method and they'll show up again.
Any news on this front?
Safe root for the P 600?
Root de la vega that is for the note 3 would be great if there was a port for 2014 device...
just picked one of these bad boys up for my partner after the nexus 10 2 is no where to be found... great little tablet i say
Is there any way to reset knox after you root?
JarkMackson said:
Is there any way to reset knox after you root?
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No... not yet anyway. It may never be reversible from what we know. I bit the bullet and rooted anyway. Oh well.
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tripping the knox
Sorry to be so dumb but what is 'tripping the Knox'. I once turned Knox on to see what it was when I first got my Note 2014 and as I recall I had to do a factory reset to shut it up.
Are you all saying that if you root a Note 2014 Knox starts and cannot be stopped??
Just got two T-Mobile Note 3's and want to root them as I did our Verizon Note 2's.
Was watching the XDA video on using the chainfire method (which I used to root my Note
tablet) and it looks like the way to go.
That video came out in Oct of 2013. The little owners manual thingie that came
with the phones states that any "If unauthorized firmware is placed on the device it will not
work."
Question: Does anyone know if Samsung has buggered up the phone since October
so that the root no longer works, or am I still good to go?
Thanks!
dal71 said:
Just got two T-Mobile Note 3's and want to root them as I did our Verizon Note 2's.
Was watching the XDA video on using the chainfire method (which I used to root my Note
tablet) and it looks like the way to go.
That video came out in Oct of 2013. The little owners manual thingie that came
with the phones states that any "If unauthorized firmware is placed on the device it will not
work."
Question: Does anyone know if Samsung has buggered up the phone since October
so that the root no longer works, or am I still good to go?
Thanks!
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You can root a couple different ways. It depends on if you want to trip Knox or not.
I literally just used chainfires auto-root via Odin and it worked fine
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Beefvvl said:
You can root a couple different ways. It depends on if you want to trip Knox or not.
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Thanks for the response, but I'll admit to being enough of a newbie not to know what you mean by trip Knox?
Knox is new Samsung secure environment, if you start flashing ROMS etc it will trip Knox flag which no one knows how to reset, if it ever can be reset. Samsung can and did refuse any warranty repairs if the Knox flag is tripped. As far as rooting goes if your firmware is below MJ7 I think, you won't trip the flag, if it's MJ7 and above the flag will be tripped I think. For example I have MI7 (last 3 digits of FW build) so I can root, without setting flag. Anyhow, I would suggest you read and learn as much as you can here, before you do something you can't undo.
I really wanted to wait until the 4.4.2 Kitkat update before I root.... but I can't wait.
I think I will cave in and get root this weekend!
I have been researching the different rooting methods lately since this might be the longest I've ever gone without root a device. I plan on keeping the stock rom since I use wifi calling on several occasions. What I really want is to customize the device using Xposed and wanam. So, on to questions.
1) Which root method do you recommend? I have looked into CF Auto Root and Root de la Vega. I don't particularly care about my Knox warranty or the ability to use Knox since it is basically bloatware to me. Does Root de la Vega wipe the entire device or not (I have read conflicting reports about this.)
2) I had intended to use root to access the old standby wifi tether however that doesn't seem to be an option anymore. (Unless anybody has a fix for it)
3) What all can be done with the Xposed framework and Wanam? I always used custom roms on my old T-Mobile GS2 and never got into any of this.
4) I do have several Square-Enix games installed and I have read that Xposed breaks them. Is the only workaround still to disable all of Xposed to play your game? Also, after disabling Xposed will I have to reset all the customizations I had made every time? Seems like that would be a lot of hassle.
5) Anything else I might be overlooking?
Thanks in advance for any replies. Just looking for a little help in deciding on whether or not to root this device since I have no intention (at this time) of flashing any roms and it wont allow me to tether.
I just realized that I posted this in general instead of Questions, could a moderator please move it?
I used root de la vega without knox tripping. Seems like if you don't care about knox being tripped than use kingo. But kingo usually don't trip knox either.
Dattack said:
I used root de la vega without knox tripping. Seems like if you don't care about knox being tripped than use kingo. But kingo usually don't trip knox either.
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Did root de la vega wipe your device or did everything stay put?
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phil.culler said:
Did root de la vega wipe your device or did everything stay put?
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For me, it didn't wiped anything.
I used CF-Autoroot. The fastest and easiest way. Took me 12 seconds to root. If you're going to put TWRP/CWM on your phone then just use CF-Autoroot. Nothing was wiped on my phone.
if you root your phone this way, and want to "jump" to an different phone down the road, does T-mo care if knox is tripped, or your phone is rooted when you bring it in to get a different one?
moving from Sprint to T-mo this week, and I dont know what the "rules" are with T-m0..
thanks
I guess I will use CF Auto Root. I spent the better part of 3 hours or so trying to use universal RDLV and couldn't get it to build my custom firmware.
does the g3 have any sort of tamper flag like knox on samsung , which voids warranty when rooting?
pre10c said:
does the g3 have any sort of tamper flag like knox on samsung , which voids warranty when rooting?
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Pretty sure any sort of rooting technically voids the warranty. That's what an ODIN reflash is for.
Slash8915 said:
Pretty sure any sort of rooting technically voids the warranty. That's what an ODIN reflash is for.
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Not in Europe (EU).
Don't feel bad read what is coming from Google .....http://m.gsmarena.com/google_announces_andriod_l_developer_preview-news-8864.php
Any device with ics or better can run Knox software and Samsung pushed it back to Google who will put it in Android L
Don't feel like having a device with Knox well the new iPhone may not have Knox
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so the lg G3 has any sort of tamper flag implemented?
Well, I used towelroot to root the G3. It's pretty non-intrusive and very simple to use. No reboots required. Just install the APK and click a button.
Your bootloader stays intact and so does the stock recovery. If a simple root is all you want, try towelroot. You just need a factory reset to remove root.
And yes.. the S5 users are using it to root their devices without tampering the Knox bit. Based on this info, I would say it's pretty safe
No way to unroot towelrooted device without hard reset?
MasK said:
Well, I used towelroot to root the G3. It's pretty non-intrusive and very simple to use. No reboots required. Just install the APK and click a button.
Your bootloader stays intact and so does the stock recovery. If a simple root is all you want, try towelroot. You just need a factory reset to remove root.
And yes.. the S5 users are using it to root their devices without tampering the Knox bit. Based on this info, I would say it's pretty safe
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Is the factory reset enough to make the phone accept OTA's? I can't see why it wouldn't be (unless there is a tampered flag) however some people on here have said refreshing stock rom is the only way to do it.
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MasK said:
Well, I used towelroot to root the G3. It's pretty non-intrusive and very simple to use. No reboots required. Just install the APK and click a button.
Your bootloader stays intact and so does the stock recovery. If a simple root is all you want, try towelroot. You just need a factory reset to remove root.
And yes.. the S5 users are using it to root their devices without tampering the Knox bit. Based on this info, I would say it's pretty safe
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Does it work with a carrier branded G3 in same way?
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Can we have some more information guys? Seems like a simple .apk can root the device and in the EU the warranty isn't void?
Lennyuk said:
Is the factory reset enough to make the phone accept OTA's? I can't see why it wouldn't be (unless there is a tampered flag) however some people on here have said refreshing stock rom is the only way to do it.
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I used towel root on my LG G Pro 2 to change my build prop so that I could install and run skygo. I performed a full unroot with supersSU Pro and surprisingly found that this did not satisfy skygo and it still flagged up as rooted (superSU Pro has always worked for me previously with other root processes).
I repeated the root process and I found some additional towel root files in system xbin which I removed then ran unroot with supersSU Pro and was then able to run skygo successfully.
I hope this is relevant to the g3 as I intend to buy a 32gb version but would like to have skygo on this. For the first time in my life, I am not charging in head first. I am holding back on my purchase and reading everything about it first.
Not sure I can keep this up for much longer though.
Good to know where to look.
Thanks for the info:good:
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I asked in one of the root threads and didn't get a reply. From looking through the existing threads I understand that you lose samsung pay and the hidden folder feature. I can live with those but is there any other features lost when unlocking the bootloader?
1.) Once knox is tripped will features be lost forever or start working again once tablet is returned to stock?
2.) Still shows as widevine L1? Any loss in resolution from an streaming apps (youtube, netflix, amazon prime, youtube tv)?
3.) Any other apps or features not working?
1. I rooted my Note 4 phone and Note Pro 12.2 tablet some years ago. Back then, I did this installing a custom recovery called TWRP. This blows an e-fuse on the main board, which prohibits Knox from working forever. Flashing back to stock recovery can't "unblow" a fuse.
2. Not sure about this one, sorry.
3. In my experience, rooting broke only those apps that relied on Knox. But I suppose these days more apps are likely to detect if they're running on a rooted device and refuse to run. That would account for the popularity of tools like Magisk that try to hide the root state from apps.
After I moved away from those devices (S7 Edge and Tab S3 were next in my history), I abandoned the rooting game. Not sure the value is worth the cost anymore.
EDIT: There are apparently ways to root without flashing a custom recovery -- this was news to me, and shows how long I've not been playing the rooting game, heh.
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1. I rooted my Note 4 phone and Note Pro 12.2 tablet some years ago. This blows an e-fuse on the main board, which prohibits Knox from working forever. Flashing back to stock can't "unblow" a fuse.
2. Not sure about this one, sorry.
3. In my experience, rooting broke only those apps that relied on Knox. But I suppose these days more apps are likely to detect if they're running on a rooted device and refuse to run. That would account for the popularity of tools like Magisk that try to hide the root state from apps.
After I moved away from those devices (S7 Edge and Tab S3 were next in my history), I abandoned the rooting game. Not sure the value is worth the cost anymore.
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Thanks for the reply. Yeah I have rooted my samsung devices in the past as well but I believe the last one I did was my note 4 as well but I don't remember widevine being a thing back then or at least I didn't care. Of all the features I am concerned about that. Don't really care about the other samsung features save for maybe dex but I don't think that is affected. Can anyone rooted confirm if they still have widevine? Is any legit premium video app like netflix or youtube tv affected? My oneplus 7 pro had widevine downgraded I believe when the bootloader unlocked which was annoying.
SteveRiley said:
1. I rooted my Note 4 phone and Note Pro 12.2 tablet some years ago. This blows an e-fuse on the main board, which prohibits Knox from working forever. Flashing back to stock can't "unblow" a fuse
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That's not quite true these days.
Using Magisk to root doesn't "blow the e fuse".
Rooting without installing TWRP will keep the warranty status 0x0 which is valid.
BTW: Netflix ect. Works just fine.
It's nice to see old Note 4 guyz around. I was very active in the sprint Note 4 forums years ago. IMO that was the very best phone samsung ever made. @tx_dbs_tx was a mad man of a developer for that device.
jhill110 said:
That's not quite true these days.
Using Magisk to root doesn't "blow the e fuse".
Rooting without installing TWRP will keep the warranty status 0x0 which is valid.
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Hey, this is interesting news! I just might take the plunge, then. Thanks for making me smarter.
EDIT. See conversation here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s7/how-to/guide-unlock-tab-s7-bootloader-t4158841
Confirmed that unlocking the boot loader and rooting with modified firmware does trip Knox. Magisk can try to conceal this bypass some security checks, but not always successfully.
jhill110 said:
It's nice to see old Note 4 guyz around. I was very active in the sprint Note 4 forums years ago. IMO that was the very best phone samsung ever made.
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100% agree. Once upon a time a Galaxy Note was not just a Galaxy S with a stylus. Alas, it appears Samsung is diligently heading away from what made the Note a distinctive device.
SteveRiley said:
Hey, this is interesting news! I just might take the plunge, then. Thanks for making me smarter.
100% agree. Once upon a time a Galaxy Note was not just a Galaxy S with a stylus. Alas, it appears Samsung is diligently heading away from what made the Note a distinctive device.
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I thought the knox tripped when you unlock the bootloader, don't you need to do this even if you root your device without installing twrp?
mikedavo said:
I thought the knox tripped when you unlock the bootloader, don't you need to do this even if you root your device without installing twrp?
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Yes you do need to unlock the bootloader to root your device... But that doesn't trip knox.
Rooting with magisk will definitely trip knox, even without TWRP.
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That's not quite true these days.
Using Magisk to root doesn't "blow the e fuse".
Rooting without installing TWRP will keep the warranty status 0x0 which is valid.
BTW: Netflix ect. Works just fine.
It's nice to see old Note 4 guyz around. I was very active in the sprint Note 4 forums years ago. IMO that was the very best phone samsung ever made. @tx_dbs_tx was a mad man of a developer for that device.
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Can anyone else confirm this?
smartymcfly said:
Can anyone else confirm this?
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You loose warranty once device is rooted. No matter if with SuperSU or magisk. Root is root
Cindysmith0994 said:
Rooting with magisk will definitely trip knox, even without TWRP.
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Is it sure? Even without TWRP?
By the way, knox is really important for personal use? I will still able to encrypt my tab? And update it without problem?
jhill110 said:
That's not quite true these days.
Using Magisk to root doesn't "blow the e fuse".
Rooting without installing TWRP will keep the warranty status 0x0 which is valid.
BTW: Netflix ect. Works just fine.
It's nice to see old Note 4 guyz around. I was very active in the sprint Note 4 forums years ago. IMO that was the very best phone samsung ever made. @tx_dbs_tx was a mad man of a developer for that device.
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Can you make an instruction? Thanks
umibuzu said:
Is it sure? Even without TWRP?
By the way, knox is really important for personal use? I will still able to encrypt my tab? And update it without problem?
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You lose L1 once the BL is unlocked though. So kiss goodbye HD on netflix and such on the ts7+ which is beneficial.
EugenStanis said:
You loose warranty once device is rooted. No matter if with SuperSU or magisk. Root is root
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Did you see the picture in the post that was quoted?
It shows as rooted and knox efuse intact. So the warranty would still be good as long as it doesn't trip the efuse.
Look at the picture before telling me a generic answer. I already know that when the excuse is blown the warranty is lost. How do they have root without tripping the efuse?
This is the picture I am referring to.
See conversation here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s7/how-to/guide-unlock-tab-s7-bootloader-t4158841
Confirmed that unlocking the boot loader and rooting with modified firmware does trip Knox. Magisk can try to conceal this bypass some security checks, but not always successfully.
smartymcfly said:
Can anyone else confirm this?
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hes wrong
umibuzu said:
Is it sure? Even without TWRP?
By the way, knox is really important for personal use? I will still able to encrypt my tab? And update it without problem?
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unlpcking bootloader alone doesnt trip knox but as soon as u flash any custom firmware i.e. disabled vbmeta, twrp, magisk etc. then it will trip knox.
theres thousands of threads on xda alone about tripped knox and what works n doesnt work so id go n look for urself before anything..
and usually it will break ota updates but can depend on device etc. but ull likely have to update via odin
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Can you make an instruction? Thanks
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hes wrong
bs3pro said:
You lose L1 once the BL is unlocked though. So kiss goodbye HD on netflix and such on the ts7+ which is beneficial.
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dunno what L1 is but unlocking by itself doesnt trio knox, its custom firmware that trips it.. basically anything u do after unlocking lol
and netflix can still work.. its trivial for netflix