AOSP development yet?
enochsalum said:
AOSP development yet?
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im playing with a 4.4 aosp build that aospa made for nexus 7(fhd) and it is amazing. the speed difference and smoothness of the OS is a huge step foreword,even in an early quick build. Lol now ill be perfectly happy as soon as they finish making a flashable gapps, and my note gets an aosp build, 4.3 or 4.4, i want to remove touchwiz!!! and yes i know, i could try to build it, and i have been trying,but im obviously missing something, cause i cant get anything to boot that isnt touchwiz
jackxlj said:
im playing with a 4.4 aosp build that aospa made for nexus 7(fhd) and it is amazing. the speed difference and smoothness of the OS is a huge step foreword,even in an early quick build. Lol now ill be perfectly happy as soon as they finish making a flashable gapps, and my note gets an aosp build, 4.3 or 4.4, i want to remove touchwiz!!! and yes i know, i could try to build it, and i have been trying,but im obviously missing something, cause i cant get anything to boot that isnt touchwiz
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The only probablem with and AOSP build on this phone is you are going to lose 80% of the functionality of this phone. The entire design of the phone, spen, sensors, automated services, etc are built around TW. Once TW is gone, all that is gone, and what is left is a fast processor with stock android and 2 or 3 spen apps that may or may not work on the Note 3
Essentially you want to take a Chevy Cobalt, and stick a Aftermarket engine in and and a Custom paint job. when it's said and done, it's still going to be a regular old Cobalt.
dragonstalker said:
The only probablem with and AOSP build on this phone is you are going to lose 80% of the functionality of this phone. The entire design of the phone, spen, sensors, automated services, etc are built around TW. Once TW is gone, all that is gone, and what is left is a fast processor with stock android and 2 or 3 spen apps that may or may not work on the Note 3
Essentially you want to take a Chevy Cobalt, and stick a Aftermarket engine in and and a Custom paint job. when it's said and done, it's still going to be a regular old Cobalt.
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i dont use the spen, nor have i ever. i have bought every single note, based on screen size alone,and the development community. i prefer aosp, i dont comment on others desire to use tw and the many many features it offers. I just dont use them, so would prefer to have a rom that didnt have them. I i used multiwindow, or spen,etc, i wouldnt ask for aosp. If google released a note 3 sized device, i would buy it, but since they dont, i buy the note series and wait for our genius devs to make me cm roms to play with
dragonstalker said:
The only probablem with and AOSP build on this phone is you are going to lose 80% of the functionality of this phone. The entire design of the phone, spen, sensors, automated services, etc are built around TW. Once TW is gone, all that is gone, and what is left is a fast processor with stock android and 2 or 3 spen apps that may or may not work on the Note 3
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A lot of us don't even use 98% of TouchWiz's gimmicky features - we just love the big display. I've had to install at least a half dozen apps AND Xposed just to get back a lot of what is built into CyanogenMod, for example.
One nice feature of TouchWhiz, though, is swiping down in fullscreen apps shows the hidden notification bar, but, 4.4 will have that feature stock now. Magazine, AirStuff, SmartFooScrollWhatever, SPen Blah... however, won't miss it. I'll probably miss the camera, since that's one of things that's often hit or miss when CM is first released on a new device. Oh, almost forgot: I'll definitely miss the nice InfraRed universal remote app that comes with the device, because the next best one costs $$$.
jackxlj said:
i dont use the spen, nor have i ever. i have bought every single note, based on screen size alone,and the development community. i prefer aosp, i dont comment on others desire to use tw and the many many features it offers. I just dont use them, so would prefer to have a rom that didnt have them. I i used multiwindow, or spen,etc, i wouldnt ask for aosp. If google released a note 3 sized device, i would buy it, but since they dont, i buy the note series and wait for our genius devs to make me cm roms to play with
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AH gotcha, In that case it makes sense. Always curious to find out why people purchase certain phones and then want to put Aosp on them.
And there are people working on AOSP, but until somebody gets a base, that is stable, we won't see it. From the guys i talk to, until the dev edition is released, Sammy is keeping a tight lid on it because they don't want another leak, like the S4 had
For the people that want it. I know it's not AOSP, but when I get this INT. RoM picked apart like i want it for the masses. I will work on a seperate Int. ROM that will have as much TW removed without breaking the phone. Or, just replace TW with a custom Launcher that will let me freeze all the garbage you guys don't care about.
aosp always takes time, bs tw roms, nothing to do with samsung, just a matter of devs having to create drivers, etc. im pretty sure one of the cm devs got cm running on the tmobile note 3, but it was to buggy to release.took a couple months for note 1,note 2, etc, we will have it soon. I may be wrong, but the nexus 5 may make the note 3 easier to get to aosp, because it uses the same chip set, so i think it may make things a bit smoother, not alot, but hey every bit helps!
only reasons i bought note 3 knowing nexus 5 was coming is
-5.7 screen
-sd card
-snapdragon 800
Wish someone could make an AOSP rom that has all of the s-pen features present. Would be the greatest of all time.
zmore said:
A lot of us don't even use 98% of TouchWiz's gimmicky features - we just love the big display. I've had to install at least a half dozen apps AND Xposed just to get back a lot of what is built into CyanogenMod, for example.
One nice feature of TouchWhiz, though, is swiping down in fullscreen apps shows the hidden notification bar, but, 4.4 will have that feature stock now. Magazine, AirStuff, SmartFooScrollWhatever, SPen Blah... however, won't miss it. I'll probably miss the camera, since that's one of things that's often hit or miss when CM is first released on a new device. Oh, almost forgot: I'll definitely miss the nice InfraRed universal remote app that comes with the device, because the next best one costs $$$.
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Same here. The Touch Wiz stuff is there to show off in commercials for the average brain dead consumer to think is cool. First thing I do is disable all the motion/eye crap. The pen is the only thing I miss, but I really only used that for Draw Something.
To all the guys that love aosp and not TW you should switch to the nexus 5. How could you not like any of the features? Camera and such? Having aosp is like ANY other phone as old as it gets. Stock Android is available for many devices. Note 3 has its own special set of features, removing it it's like a car with no wheels. Not one of kind anymore just like the phone your buddy has. 700 phone to look like a 200 device is just dumb. But that's yalls minds I guess.
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muqali said:
Same here. The Touch Wiz stuff is there to show off in commercials for the average brain dead consumer to think is cool. First thing I do is disable all the motion/eye crap. The pen is the only thing I miss, but I really only used that for Draw Something.
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Unfortunately i'm among those brain dead consumers that you speak of. I actually don't like Sammy software, and have not since the Behold For those that even remember that phone). I do on the other hand, use alot of the features that come with it as i'm an IT and it makes life easier for me to carry around the note 3 instead of a tab, and pen/paper, and lap top to be able to do what i can do with this.
Waiting CyanogenMod！
It's hard to lose wifi calling.
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dragonstalker said:
The only probablem with and AOSP build on this phone is you are going to lose 80% of the functionality of this phone. The entire design of the phone, spen, sensors, automated services, etc are built around TW. Once TW is gone, all that is gone, and what is left is a fast processor with stock android and 2 or 3 spen apps that may or may not work on the Note 3
Essentially you want to take a Chevy Cobalt, and stick a Aftermarket engine in and and a Custom paint job. when it's said and done, it's still going to be a regular old Cobalt.
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I think ultimately we(donate) and they(devs) make solutions. My proposition is to rebuild multi window via s command style, draw box you have a window, minimize you get a floating bubble(notifications on bubbles would make sense). I don't know how hard that would be to build for AOSP but Clean android and multi App Window would make for a very light weight and productive Rom. I believe something similar is soon to be released but not with this level of simplicity hardware/user wise. Plus I've seen multi window on aosp roms coming to play out so I can't imagine why this isn't feasible.
**update**
Omnirom is the name of the rom that will feature multi window on aosp.
chuko303 said:
To all the guys that love aosp and not TW you should switch to the nexus 5. How could you not like any of the features? Camera and such? Having aosp is like ANY other phone as old as it gets. Stock Android is available for many devices. Note 3 has its own special set of features, removing it it's like a car with no wheels. Not one of kind anymore just like the phone your buddy has. 700 phone to look like a 200 device is just dumb. But that's yalls minds I guess.
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Nexus 5 is a 5in screen.
Note 3 is a 5.7in screen.
And stock android can be modified to be far more unique than TW by the way.
And there are people who don't find any of these features useful, which was stated before. It will be a shame to loose the camera app though.
Nexus ONE
Nexus 5 has 0 microSD slots
Note 3 has 1 microSD slot
Plainly put I brought this phone for the hardware not the software. I would have brought this phone with out the spen and Samsung features lol
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joverclock said:
only reasons i bought note 3 knowing nexus 5 was coming is
-5.7 screen
-sd card
-snapdragon 800
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Yeah I had been waiting for the nexus 5, sold my n4 and decided to go with the note3, totally happy I did..
i dont want a 5" phone without sd, i want a 5'7 inch screen, with sd, and the note 3 looks way better then the n5. I dont like touchwiz,i hate it, but i love samsung hardware. The beauty of android is choice, why complain that other people have a opinion that isnt the same as yours?
I have seen on gsmareana.com that the galaxy s4 mini GT-I9190 is upgradble to android 4.3 but there is no updates available on mine why??
And what are the new features of android 4.3?Does it have air gestures or smart scroll??
danyznd123 said:
I have seen on gsmareana.com that the galaxy s4 mini GT-I9190 is upgradble to android 4.3 but there is no updates available on mine why??
And what are the new features of android 4.3?Does it have air gestures or smart scroll??
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ROM/firmware update depends on your region. And if your phone is network provider dependent, it up to your network provider to release an OTA update.
Air gesture and smart scroll are something of the flagship feature, eg. S3/S4 but not the minis.
TNCS said:
ROM/firmware update depends on your region. And if your phone is network provider dependent, it up to your network provider to release an OTA update.
Air gesture and smart scroll are something of the flagship feature, eg. S3/S4 but not the minis.
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But the galaxy s4 mini have thr proximity sensor and front camera so there must be a smart screen!!
danyznd123 said:
But the galaxy s4 mini have thr proximity sensor and front camera so there must be a smart screen!!
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A sensor is just a sensor. All the feature you mention is software implementation, IMHO a useless one on top of it. Samsung has different software implementation for feature to differentiate various segment of phones. All this camera based feature are only available on the 1st tier phones, such as Note or S's. All this Samsung feature are mention on Samsung's own website... Alternatively there's GSM Arena. Check it before you buy the phones on the features you want.
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A sensor is just a sensor. All the feature you mention is software implementation, IMHO a useless one on top of it. Samsung has different software implementation for feature to differentiate various segment of phones. All this camera based feature are only available on the 1st tier phones, such as Note or S's. All this Samsung feature are mention on Samsung's own website... Alternatively there's GSM Arena. Check it before you buy the phones on the features you want.
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You know even if there a smart screen rarely we use it because it cause a battery drain ....
come on man! I am a senior developer don't think I am stupid but my experience on phone was on the galaxy ace plus see in my signature and I am new to the galaxy s4 mini and I am working on it
danyznd123 said:
You know even if there a smart screen rarely we use it because it cause a battery drain ....
come on man! I am a senior developer don't think I am stupid but my experience on phone was on the galaxy ace plus see in my signature and I am new to the galaxy s4 mini and I am working on it
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Hey man, cool, I didn't say anything beside the fact. They are all camera based feature, and beside the obvious battery drain, it also becomes useless in dark room as the camera won't see anything (since I use phone quit often before bed time). I got the S3 as well, it was cool like the first hour, but seriously, how often you see people around you waving their hand at their phone like some crazy person? It Samsung's marketing gimmick more than anything. Just like the name S4 'mini', instead of a flagship in smaller form, it a serious cut down. The only thing mini's resemblance to their big brother's are the exterior design. No more, no less.
Hello,
I've been thinking about getting myself a Note 10.1, mostly because of the S-Pen.
Since I don't like TW at all, I visited the Android development subforum and got confused about the different versions.
So I've seen ROMs for the P600/601/605. As far as I know, the white lte version is the P605 and both white wifi versions (16 or 32GB) are the P600. The black versions have another zero added (P6000 and P6050), but I guess they can still use the roms designed for the P600 and P605 respectively, right? And which one is the P601?
Also the S-Pen seems to be fully functional under some of the custom-roms, with palm rejection working, or am I wrong?
Thanks for taking your time to answer my questions!
N0he said:
Hello,
I've been thinking about getting myself a Note 10.1, mostly because of the S-Pen.
Since I don't like TW at all, I visited the Android development subforum and got confused about the different versions.
So I've seen ROMs for the P600/601/605. As far as I know, the white lte version is the P605 and both white wifi versions (16 or 32GB) are the P600. The black versions have another zero added (P6000 and P6050), but I guess they can still use the roms designed for the P600 and P605 respectively, right? And which one is the P601?
Also the S-Pen seems to be fully functional under some of the custom-roms, with palm rejection working, or am I wrong?
Thanks for taking your time to answer my questions!
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OK. All WiFi/g3 only Note is the p600. All the ones the carriers carry are the p605-7 which use snapdragon CPUs. I am currently rooted and running a custom ROM called LiquidSmooth, this is a Lollipop ROM. I am about to release it, just got the last go a head last night. It has S-Pen support. It doesn't have some of the features that tw has, but these are easy to replace, with an app, if you want them. Palm rejection work fine. Buy the Note root it then install a custom ROM like Liquid, CM 12 which is extremely bare bone and doesn't have the S-Pen customization, or temasek which is based off CM 12 but with a heck of a lot more customization.
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