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Galaxy nexus' screen makes me incredible dizzy :/

You might laugh but its true, i can't use my galaxy nexus while I'm on a moving car, and no I'm not the one driving, when I use it I get incredible dizzy, I wanna throw up, I'm blaming the pentile screen, I had a galaxy s ii which is super amoled plus and an inspire 4g which is super LCD and I had no troubles whatsoever, does anyone else has the same issue?
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It probably has to do with you focusing on the text when you're moving, you get motion sickness. just take medicine for it

I did notice that effect when staring down at the screen with a certain pattern of floor tile in my peripheral vision.
Immediately got dizzy and no matter how much I told myself out was just a visual effect and that I don't experience this type of vertigo, ever... It continued
I've had several smart phones and other devices that should have caused this if I had this type of problem, but this is the first screen that had ever done this to me
So yes, I believe you are correct
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derekwilkinson said:
It probably has to do with you focusing on the text when you're moving, you get motion sickness. just take medicine for it
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Bingo. Same as reading in the car, some can do it and some can't!

derekwilkinson said:
It probably has to do with you focusing on the text when you're moving, you get motion sickness. just take medicine for it
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As much as I doubt the pentile display is the cause for the dizziness, I found this hilarious.
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It may be.
I personally can't watch DLP TVs or Projectors. I see very vivid flashing rainbows that make me extremely sick.
LED backlight LCD screens make me sick too. When the brightness is dimmed I start seeing the flicker from the LEDs. Hence why I've had AMOLED phones for almost 2 years.
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Try not looking in the downward direction while your using it in the car, it helps

LancerEVA06 said:
It may be.
I personally can't watch DLP TVs or Projectors. I see very vivid flashing rainbows that make me extremely sick.
LED backlight LCD screens make me sick too. When the brightness is dimmed I start seeing the flicker from the LEDs. Hence why I've had AMOLED phones for almost 2 years.
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Your eyes probably run at a higher fps than the rest of us! :-O

Its because your brain thinks you're still and the liquid in your ears (forgot the word) is being moved around since you're in the car. If you look out the window then you won't feel sick.
Its motion sickness.

All of you are missing the point-obviously from his post he's had other phones and didn't experience the same issue, it's not simple motion sickness, it's somewhat device specific. Not that the Galaxy Nexus is the only device that can cause it by any means
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ingenious247 said:
All of you are missing the point-obviously from his post he's had other phones and didn't experience the same issue, it's not simple motion sickness, it's somewhat device specific. Not that the Galaxy Nexus is the only device that can cause it by any means
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because of the font, gamma settings, etc, he is having a harder time focussing when on this display. this is causing car sickness.

derekwilkinson said:
because of the font, gamma settings, etc, he is having a harder time focussing when on this display. this is causing car sickness.
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Could be, my personal feeling is the resolution has a LOT to do with it.
That's yet another reason the Galaxy S2 is pretty much the best phone every produced to date IMO. The lower resolution looks more stunning than anything I've ever seen on a smart phone and minimizes/eliminates the problems that come with a tighter pixel density
Still love my nexus though, more than the GS2
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Chad_Petree said:
You might laugh but its true, i can't use my galaxy nexus while I'm on a moving car, and no I'm not the one driving, when I use it I get incredible dizzy, I wanna throw up, I'm blaming the pentile screen, I had a galaxy s ii which is super amoled plus and an inspire 4g which is super LCD and I had no troubles whatsoever, does anyone else has the same issue?
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Sometimes when I play call of duty MW3 I get dizzy when I get a text and look at my nexus cause of the pentile....

The only logical explanation for his dizziness is that he loves his gnex so much, that everytime he touches it he gets an erection, causing more blood flow to other parts than the brain

Yeah I found the screen a little to look at coming from a super LCD device as well. Didn't make me sick just the samoled has a funny hue to it. I'm hoping the next nexus will be super ips, the one x has an amazing screen it's just a shame about the software.
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I knew Pentile isn't the best, but that's a bit harsh to say that cause motion sickness.
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I'm hoping the next nexus will be super ips, the one x has an amazing screen it's just a shame about the software.
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For the next Nexus, you'll have 5 different brands to choose from.

You should see your doctor.Dont forget to take your phone with you as this will help in your diagnosis

Ya I can't do anything on my phone while in a car or on a boat. I get nausea and such. I've always been like that with phones though.
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I wouldn't blame it on the pen tile. You have to realise that this is a 720dpi screen compared to the sgs2 with a lower Res screen. The additional sharpness leads to slow slightly smaller font and the clarity makes your eyes focus on words and pictures more.
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I'm afraid its bad news..... you caught eye aids from your phone and the prognosis isn't good.
Within 6 months you'll have full blown nexitis and maybe 6 months after that you will have to have your eyes replaced with two 5mp sensors from a gnex (irony) due to the eye aids.
In all seriousness tho there isn't much you can do, changing the gamma settings or a dev changing the frame rate or something like that may help you.
Other than that your only option is to not look at your phone when you're using it.

Why no haptic?

Why do you think there is no vibrator in the N7?
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Cost cutting.

It cost money , and when you sell a tablet for 229$ with a high end CPU , 2GB of DDR3 memory , and a 1920X1200 7" IPS screen you need to cut corners where its the least noticble ..

Because it's useless.

GoneTomorrow said:
Because it's useless.
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I wouldn't go that far, but I usually disable it for keyboards and such. There's plenty of possibilities for it.

GoneTomorrow said:
Because it's useless.
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I really like the haptic feedback for the kayboard , the click sound does help to some degree, but when you need to mute the device it feels weird to type.. its not useless , but its better to cut this corner then something like the device's body with feels amazing, more when you remember the soft touch is just plastic.

The motor is the biggest user of battery. It kills battery.
But it is a nice accessory to have. I enjoy unlocking my nexus to a gentle rumble. It works on something's but useless for most. Plus such a large device would probably need a decent motor. I guess they feel haptic feedback is wasted on such a large device. Cost savings, I can't say. Even at a $1 a motor across $500,000 devices is $500,000 in the pocket.
I don't really notice it honestly.
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Does Asus puts haptic feedback in any of its tablets? for example I know that the Note 10.1 has it , so probably other samsung tablets has them too.

I can't think of a tablet off the top of my head with a vibration motor. It's probably due to the fact that on a device bigger than about 6 inches, the motor either has to be prohibitively large to be felt equally around the tablet, or it's too localised.

The Toshiba Thrive 10.1 has one, but that's 3 generations ago....

If I remember right the Nexus 10 had one.
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I can't think of a tablet off the top of my head with a vibration motor. It's probably due to the fact that on a device bigger than about 6 inches, the motor either has to be prohibitively large to be felt equally around the tablet, or it's too localised.
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A few of the Samsung tablets I used have vibration motors so there's a few at least.

I use my tablet as a laptop replacement, not a phone. I disable haptic on my phone anyway.

This is something I had no idea about. Of well, a small compromise I guess. My Nexus 10 has haptic feedback and I'm quite used to it.
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I love haptic, sad its gone. Not really a major deal breaker.
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plznote said:
I love haptic, sad its gone. Not really a major deal breaker.
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Agreed on "not really a major deal breaker." The Nexus 10 and Nexus 4 haptic was nice, but usually turn off it anyway to save battery.

Would just be a waste of battery. I never use it on any device.
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[Q] Lg g pad 8.3 or google nexus 7 2013

I m looking to buy a tablet, but torn between the two. I play with both device in Best Buy, they both look awesome. I do like the LG for the bigger screen, thin design, look good, and sd card, read about it people stating battery is not very good about 6-7 hours, and dpi is only 273. I like Nexus cuz it come with google pure 4.3 and 4.4 is coming, no bloat ware, the screen is nicer brighter, 323dpi, but smaller screen, one thing I don't like cuz it doesn't have sd card expansion, and heard GPS is a problem. LG 16gb/w microsd slot for $349. And Nexus 32Gb/no slot for $269. Which one is the right one to buy here......Or Nexus 8 rumor coming....

I had the nexus 7, but v will never go back, after playing with the G PAD. IT,s so great on many things. Clever progs, great screen and a little bigger screen. And it,s Damn fast too ?
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Drakh1 said:
I had the nexus 7, but v will never go back, after playing with the G PAD. IT,s so great on many things. Clever progs, great screen and a little bigger screen. And it,s Damn fast too ?
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Agreed. I love mine. It's rooted, sat at 100% since this afternoon 12, and it's 12:45 am right now, and still sitting at 100%. So, the idle battery doesn't even die much unless you're letting useless programs run. I use Advanced Task Killer. Have always used it for my Note 1, Note 2, Note 3, and now my LG G Pad. Works wonders and keeps battery levels great. Just make sure you don't kill any random apps that keep opening up. Also, it's good to freeze useless apps with Titanium if you're rooted. It's super smooth. I've had zero issues with it.

I had the '13 Nexus 7, and while it's a great device (love wireless charging) I found the screen size too small.
I absolutely love the G Pad. I think the 8.3 screen is just about perfect, and the the LG stock rom is very good.
Unlike some people, the battery life has been exceptional for me, and the brightness doesn't bother me much since I usually use the device in bed to read.

I was set on getting the 32gb nexus 7 but then the best buy pre-order popped up for the G Pad. The added screen size, overall design/ build and expand doable memory moved me this way. Loving this thing.

I went through 3 32gb 2013 Nexus 7s. They each had the multi-touch bug, even after the last 4.3 update (JSS15Q?). They were beyond unusable. Couldn't play games, couldn't use Google Maps, could barely use Chrome. I won't be trying any other Asus made Nexus devices for a while, it's clear they cut too many corners trying to keep costs down. I'm probably going to get a G Pad 8.3 but I'm waiting to see if any development is going to come to it. Been a bit slow so far.

I have a nexus flo and a g2...love my g2 ...nexus is plain and dull..screen is great but the stock os takes zero advantage of it, and some apps look worse then they do on my g2... I don't get people's fascination with stock android. I'm guessing the g pad would be close ui wise to the phone, and, had it been out before I bought my nexus it'd be g pad hands down.
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Have them Both
My Nexus 7 (2013) has hardware issues.
I've had the G Pad 8.3 for 2 weeks now. My Nexus 7 has been to the repair center and soon I'll be sending it to a landfill and not looking back.
The G Pad rocks.

I think that the only advantages of the nexus are that it's smoother, lighter and the screen is brighter. Only had the gpad two days so I guess I still have to really make my mind about it.
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i'll probably buy one, but waiting to see if anyone starts working on some custom roms for it first

Hard to compare with the size difference... I find the 7 to be too small and have crazy large bezels. I am very happy to be getting the G Pad with the 8.3. With newegg's price they are almost the same (I got mine for 260... only a 30 dollar difference)
The nexus will get more updates but I find stripped android to be boring unless you have custom roms with Mods. The G Pad will have little to no updates so you get what you get. Still excited!

well good news, looks like we'll see something eventually. dalingrin just bought one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47958836&postcount=26
i have a lot to thank him for, especially since he did work on the hp touchpad

For me, GPad has better aspect ratio then N7 - it's better for daily use

I have both on the way right now and will only keep one... I will post impressions here if you think it would help
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I know this isn't what some will want to hear since this is the G Pad forum after all, but I had the G Pad for about a week. It wasn't a bad tablet, but I returned it to Best Buy and decided to wait for either hard evidence of a Nexus 8 or a good deal on a Nexus 7. I got the N7 32gb last week for $229 and haven't looked back. Even if an N8 was announced today I'd think long and hard about keeping the N7 assuming there'd be a significant price difference.
The N7 is as fast as I could want it to be. I wouldn't say it's noticeably slower than my Nexus 5. Where the N5 has pretty much zero lag, the N7 will lag occasionally, but that's the only difference. Otherwise it is buttery smooth. I was skeptical about whether or not the N7 would work for me b/c I thought the 7 inch screen would be too small, but after having it for a week, I'm totally satisfied with it. It's great for reading and browsing and even works well for comics. As for the bezels...I see people use this as a knock on the N7 and I used to think the same way, but after having the G Pad for a week I realized that you need to have some bezel if you want to be able to hold the thing comfortably. With the G Pad I kept accidentally touching the edge of the screen while trying to hold it and it was really irritating.
One of my biggest complaints about the G Pad was the dim screen -- seriously, it's ridiculously dim...by comparison I was able to read a book on the N7 at under 50% brightness with the sun coming in through a window behind me, whereas the G Pad was almost unusable in any conditions under 50% brightness. I also had the blue line which it seems to me every G Pad has. I know it's hard to notice, but I don't like that it appears when the thing heats up...speaks to possible greater quality control/reliability issues.
Anyway a summary of why I prefer the N7:
Better battery life observed (I get closer to 7 or 8 hours of screen time on the N7 where I got around 5-6 on the G Pad)
Brighter screen on the N7...like Waaaay brighter
More comfortable to hold, both b/c of the bezels and because of the grippy back -- found the G Pad to be too slippery
Stock android (got Kit Kat already)
I have had no issues at all with the N7...I know some have touchscreen issues but mine has worked flawlessly.
B/c I have an N4 and N5 in the household I am getting wireless chargers for all 3 devices.
The G Pad is not bad and I would probably say if you absolutely positively must have 8+ inches then you should get it if you can find a deal, but if I was holding out for that particular size still I would wait to see exactly what the LG V510 is first (i believe it is a Nexus 8, but don't think it is necessarily imminent). For me, the 7 inch screen is working out just fine, so if you think you'd be satisfied with that size then I would say get a Nexus 7.

i've been spoiled on 10 inch tablets and its hard to 'upgrade' to a new 7 inch one. 8.3 seems like a compromise, still small but not too small as a 7. hopefully that rumor would be true. it looks like the specs are near identical to the gpad though, maybe google will just rebrand the gpad as a nexus?

x000x said:
i've been spoiled on 10 inch tablets and its hard to 'upgrade' to a new 7 inch one. 8.3 seems like a compromise, still small but not too small as a 7. hopefully that rumor would be true. it looks like the specs are near identical to the gpad though, maybe google will just rebrand the gpad as a nexus?
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The V510 could be a Nexus 8 or it could be a G Pad LTE. Either is possible.

yeah, i'm hoping for a nexus version b/c i do like nexus devices, but who knows at this point. i read up on the leaked manual today. not much more info to be gleaned from it however =/
the gpad is on sale for $249 at newegg today with promo code CYBERMND16. thursday there was a flash sale for $179, which i sadly missed. tempting prices.

x000x said:
i've been spoiled on 10 inch tablets and its hard to 'upgrade' to a new 7 inch one. 8.3 seems like a compromise, still small but not too small as a 7. hopefully that rumor would be true. it looks like the specs are near identical to the gpad though, maybe google will just rebrand the gpad as a nexus?
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for me, 7 and 10 inches are almost not even comparable. I have a 10 inch tablet, and specifically wanted something smaller so it was easier to hold while reading and such. The 7 is filling that niche nicely for me.

G pad has been in the drawer for a while now. Nexus 7 is just so much better to use for me. G pad screen is too dark, sound is crap and it feels like it weighs twice as much as the Nexus. Yes for some things it might be better than the Nexus, but the Nexus is so nice to use overall.
Probably sell it or give it to my mom next time I visit her.
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Decisions decisions

Well I finally got my one plus one invite tonight. Have the g3 since the day it was released. Though I love the phone the battery life is a bit subpar but that's what the replaceable battery is for right if you can find one. Question is would you take the plunge.? Anyone with similar predicament? Curious to hear all thoughts I have 3 days to decide.
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I wanted a one plus for so long . I'm glad I got the G3 though. Battery life for me is Awesome. The he Has a better screen and I actually like what LG has put on top of android. Another thing to think about . with one plus being so limited on phones that they have to do a slow invite roll out how easy do you think it will be to get a replacement unit if you have problems with yours?

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I wanted a one plus for so long . I'm glad I got the G3 though. Battery life for me is Awesome. The he Has a better screen and I actually like what LG has put on top of android. Another thing to think about . with one plus being so limited on phones that they have to do a slow invite roll out how easy do you think it will be to get a replacement unit if you have problems with yours?
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That is true. But you should admit each does have its pros and Cons it's a tough decision. The development for custom roms have been next to none. If it wasn't for the tweaks I probably would have given up the phone by now. I only get 4 and a half to 5 hours of sot. 5 and a half on a good day.
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Also why is it so impossible to find an extra battery and we shouldn't have to pay an arm and a leg for it having it shipped from korea
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I have both and prefer the G3 because even though the OPO is a little faster it is not smoother than the G3 especially now that I have updated to H
The biggest problems with the OPO is the screen and customer service if you have a problem. I bought one OPO from a seller here in the UK that sold the phone with the understanding that when he got the invites he would pass them on to me. I didn't expect to hear from him again but I did so I bought another two of them and all three had the yellow tint to some degree, they were not bad but it was there.
The camera on the Oneplus One isn't great either except for the 4k video which was very good(yes I was looking at it on a 4k TV) and another thing about the Oneplus One is the back of the phone, the sandstone is something I couldn't get used to, I just don't like the feel of it although they are making a couple of different backs for it.
I also have the M8 and I also prefer the G3 over that as well mainly for the size and quality of the screen.
If you buy the Oneplus One then I would buy it with the understanding that you may not or as good as not have a warranty with the phone.
I sold two of my Oneplus Ones for £100 more than I paid for them each so at the end of the day the way I see it is that I paid just £95 for the one I have so if it goes tits up I'm only loosing that much.

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I have both and prefer the G3 because even though the OPO is a little faster it is not smoother than the G3 especially now that I have updated to H
The biggest problems with the OPO is the screen and customer service if you have a problem. I bought one OPO from a seller here in the UK that sold the phone with the understanding that when he got the invites he would pass them on to me. I didn't expect to hear from him again but I did so I bought another two of them and all three had the yellow tint to some degree, they were not bad but it was there.
The camera on the Oneplus One isn't great either except for the 4k video which was very good(yes I was looking at it on a 4k TV) and another thing about the Oneplus One is the back of the phone, the sandstone is something I couldn't get used to, I just don't like the feel of it although they are making a couple of different backs for it.
I also have the M8 and I also prefer the G3 over that as well mainly for the size and quality of the screen.
If you buy the Oneplus One then I would buy it with the understanding that you may not or as good as not have a warranty with the phone.
I sold two of my Oneplus Ones for £100 more than I paid for them each so at the end of the day the way I see it is that I paid just £95 for the one I have so if it goes tits up I'm only loosing that much.
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You are correct at many points. With this yellow tint is it baked into the actual screen or just the glass of the screen? You really find the g3 to be as smooth? I keep reading the opo is the smoothest stutter free device most people have ever used and the sandstone back felt amazing. How about your battery life compared to the g3? Right now I'm lucky if I get 5 hours of SOT.
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bustinstugots24 said:
You are correct at many points. With this yellow tint is it baked into the actual screen or just the glass of the screen? You really find the g3 to be as smooth? I keep reading the opo is the smoothest stutter free device most people have ever used and the sandstone back felt amazing. How about your battery life compared to the g3? Right now I'm lucky if I get 5 hours of SOT.
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The M8 has the best battery life, then the Oneplus One and then the G3 but the G3 is only a few days old and I have only got the H update so I can't say for sure that the G3 isn't as good but at the moment it isn't. I get about 6-7 hours out of the G3, 7-8 out of the Oneplus One and a bit more out of the M8 but I'm not a heavy user but I have found that with the G3 my app usage on Gsam has gone up to over 50% but that is probably because I have been using it more for YouTube and just in general using it more instead of my Surface 2
I got over 11 hours out of my M8 when I got it but that was mainly just setting it up and using different apps like Zooper and that because having been used to windows all the different settings and customization took some getting used to again.
I do find that the G3 is as smooth or smoother than the Oneplus One but not as smooth as the M8 but then again the M8 is slow and stutters compared to my Nokia 1520

You could buy the 1+1 and sell it on ebay for a profit. If you have an invite, you might as well use it to your advantage or give it away.

I have an lg g3 and its a good phone but is mega laggy slow at switching between apps and everything really I've got option to swap for oneplusone think I'm gonna take it but not sure??
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russcausier said:
I have an lg g3 and its a good phone but is mega laggy slow at switching between apps and everything really I've got option to swap for oneplusone think I'm gonna take it but not sure??
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A friend of mine is willing to take the g3 off my hands but price hasn't been discussed as of yet. How much could I sell the one plus for you think? Also how are you guys getting 7 hours of screen time. I can barely get 4 and a half to 5 hours and I'm not a heavy heavy user.
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bustinstugots24 said:
A friend of mine is willing to take the g3 off my hands but price hasn't been discussed as of yet. How much could I sell the one plus for you think? Also how are you guys getting 7 hours of screen time. I can barely get 4 and a half to 5 hours and I'm not a heavy heavy user.
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Read this before making a leap:
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...tery-apparently-blows-up-in-users-pocket.html

grneyez said:
Read this before making a leap:
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...tery-apparently-blows-up-in-users-pocket.html
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I saw that yesterday. It is scary for sure. It's happened to the s5 too I believe.
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bustinstugots24 said:
I saw that yesterday. It is scary for sure. It's happened to the s5 too I believe.
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Yes, it's happened to the S4, not sure about the S5. But, you don't want the battery exploding while your on a call. something to think about, just saying. Good luck with whatever your decision, I do agree with you that the development on the G3 is slower than other devises. It is what it is.
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grneyez said:
Yes, it's happened to the S4, not sure about the S5. But, you don't want the battery exploding while your on a call. something to think about, just saying. Good luck with whatever your decision, I do agree with you that the development on the G3 is slower than other devises. It is what it is.
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I'm thinking of pulling the trigger and if I don't like it I sell it. Seems to be a pretty high resell value. Also on screen time gets you about 6-7 hrs if use I'll purchase and compare screen camera speaker etc.
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bustinstugots24 said:
I'm thinking of pulling the trigger and if I don't like it I sell it. Seems to be a pretty high resell value. Also on screen time gets you about 6-7 hrs if use I'll purchase and compare screen camera speaker etc.
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I just came from the HTC M8 and in comparing the G3 to the M8 I tend to like the G3 more than the M8, just that the locked boot loader is kind of killing it for me. I like the screen size of the G3 but do find that the M8 screen is much brighter and looks crisper compared to the G3. In addition the M8 speakers a second to none. Tough decision for me to make. May give it another week or so to see what comes out of the development.

grneyez said:
I just came from the HTC M8 and in comparing the G3 to the M8 I tend to like the G3 more than the M8, just that the locked boot loader is kind of killing it for me. I like the screen size of the G3 but do find that the M8 screen is much brighter and looks crisper compared to the G3. In addition the M8 speakers a second to none. Tough decision for me to make. May give it another week or so to see what comes out of the development.
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Was originally picking up the m8 but the subpar camera along with those huge bezels I just couldn't do it. If you stand the g3 and the M8 side by side it's the same length for a phone that has a bigger screen. I understand about the boom sound speakers but it was just overkill for me plus I think the g3 speaker sounds pretty Damn good if you ask me
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So here are my thoughts. Picked up the oneplus one figuring I could sell it of course. It's a nicely built device especially for the price. Packaging was excellent as well really impressive. I did a side by side comparison for a few hours between pictures videos fluidity.
Screen:
Having the screen side by side I truly believe the g3 screen is better. Colors seem to pop more, everything and I mean everything is crystal clear on the g3. Video looks exceptional on the g3 and on the opo to me it looked washed out compared to it. The opo also didn't look nearly as clear side by side but of course that was expected but even text in a Web browser just looks so much better on the g3. The only thing I did notice screen wise browsing the Web is the whites are really milky white on the opo and more toned down on the g3. The opo goes much brighter too but I would never keep it on that high of a brightness to begin with. I think the g3 screen has spoiled me and I don't think I can use a 1080p screen any longer.
Loud speaker: the opo impressed me with its loudspeaker it was pretty loud I must admit but the g3 wiped the floor with it. Just louder and more of a fuller sound.
Camera: g3 is definitely better. For the back. Clearer pictures faster focus and better colors. The front facing camera definitely has to go to the opo though. Again this was expected considering the g3 is a 2 mp compared to opo 5 mp.
Fluidity: in my honest opinion I couldn't tell the difference. They both felt smooth.
Final thoughts : for the 5.5 inch screen size the g3 has worked wonders in making you think you are holding a smaller device it really is incredible how they designed this phone. The opo is just way to long for me. Don't get me wrong the back felt nice and the build quality was top notch for a $350 phone but it's just too big for me. There are too many pros that out weigh the cons for the g3 in my opinion. Add removable battery and SD card to me it's a no brainer. I usually get 4.5-5 hours of battery life for SOT on my g3 to begin and can normal get me through. A day on moderate use but I have a second battery so that's no issue for me.
Verdict : I'll be keeping my beloved g3 and selling my opo on eBay.
Thanks everyone!
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Potentialreplacement device?

m.pocketnow.com/2016/10/22/blass-leaks-huawei-mate-9-pro
I have moved onto an Axon7 for now, but I'm still a Note7 user at heart! Anyway, i saw this today. Could be interesting...
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ekerbuddyeker said:
m.pocketnow.com/2016/10/22/blass-leaks-huawei-mate-9-pro
I have moved onto an Axon7 for now, but I'm still a Note7 user at heart! Anyway, i saw this today. Could be interesting...
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How do u like the axon.

Until one of these decides to have a stylus there really is no replacement other than previous note models.
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borijess said:
How do u like the axon.
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I will second this question. Most importantly the Axon has these potential issues:
1) A dim display. A review tested the Axon 7 and got only 319 nits at max brightness. This is half of what the Note 7 gets for max nits on manual brightness settings.
2) Poor reception on both cell service and wifi signal. This is because of the metal build. Yes, there are bands built into the metal frame for the antennas, but in another review the Axon 7 had 30 to 40% worse reception than the Note 7.
3) SD card is not able to install apps. Not a big deal really, 64 gb is enough for apps IMHO.
4 The virtual buttons are not backlit and are too close together. Again, something a person can live with.
So #1 and #2 are pretty big problems with the Axon 7. It is a nice looking phone with very nice specs and seems to work well. The battery could have been a little bigger but not a huge deal. And it is not IP rated so water will kill it. Also, the demand has risen for it, it is backordered and/or raised in price on Amazon from it's original price.

Actually I like the a7 a lot. I bought the v20 but have drifted back to the axon again . Screen brightness is fine IMHO. I Haven't had a reception issue. Virtual buttons took notice at all to get used to. Still miss my n7. A friend hasn't given his up yet and it's still better than anything else.
In Star Trek philosophy, we are all trying to get back to the nexus... (but not the Nexus!)
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Getting increasingly frustrated with Samsung. How could they mess up such a basic thing as - their phone explodes!! Looking at what else is out there is making me nervous. Everyone plans to offer 6GB ram, 4000 mah battery seems to be on the rise too. And Samsung is coming up with these when? In one whole year??? Dammit if there was a IP68 device with those sepcs coming right now and blue...I would have to bite. I would just have to make notes with my finger and forget the rest of pen functions. Ugh.