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[Q] Rooted; Accept OTA 3.36.651.6?

I flashed the rooted 3.36.651.3 ROM when it came out. Now that .6 is out, and 2.2 has been rooted can I accept the .6 OTA? I am not sure what will happen.
I am fully rooted and unlocked. Will I retain root? I prefer not to wipe my phone if I dont have to. Thanks for helping a confused noob!

You're better off flashing the rooted version of .6 instead of doing the OTA. The OTA will unroot you unless you have Unrevoked Forever, but even then, why risk it? Even if you did do the OTA, you COULD unroot, but that would be more of a "oh, crap, I screwed up, at least I can fix it" way of doing things. I'm not super-familiar with what UF actually does, but definitely don't do anything without installing that and switching to S-OFF. Then you can try the .6 OTA. If it works, great. If not, you'll have to use the new root method (and wipe your phone anyway) to downgrade, then you'll HAVE to flash the rooted version or another custom ROM after that to get up to 2.2 again.

Thats what I figured too. I wasnt sure if the OTA would leave the su and various pieces in place or what... Is it safe to flash the .6 rooted over .3 rooted? Suggestions on which version? I prefer to stay as close to stock as I can. Thanks for the quick reply.

^^What he said^^ Here's one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743352

If you want stock, use the stock version. There's one odexed and one deodexed. Don't ask what the difference is, there's already answers to that around. Use the wiki link at the top of each forum to find all the ROMs.
As for flashing up to a new version without wiping, that's up to you. Within the same version (stock to stock) it should be okay, but if you're switching to a custom version, you have to wipe. I do anyway just to make sure there aren't fragments or anything lying around that will screw things up. I'm cautious like that.

netarchy recommends doing a full wipe first. Has anyone done an upgrade over .3 successfully? There also appear to people experiencing issues toward the 56th page.... that was my initial concern in why I was asking about the OTA.

cool, I will flash the one Jim M linked. I have been lurking it for a while. Thanks!

after i rooted last night, i tried to update to the ota, and keep root then, i could download the file, but it would not install, started to, but froze everytime, tried it a few times, and just said forget it.

SilverZero said:
If you want stock, use the stock version. There's one odexed and one deodexed. Don't ask what the difference is, there's already answers to that around. Use the wiki link at the top of each forum to find all the ROMs.
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I was just going to ask that. So I went to the wiki ansd got:
Create the page "Deodexed" on this wiki!
I did a search and came up with:
Search: Keyword(s): deodexed ; Forum: HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G and child forums Showing results 1 to 25 of 170
AH: http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7435282

deodexed = you can change things, such as themes, more easliy transported and packed smaller or changed.
odexed = basic stock
That's it in a nutshell from a nut.
@Gary - I'm waving back, can you see me?

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@Gary - I'm waving back, can you see me?
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Is that you with the bottle in your hand? I think I'll stop at Outback and grab a beer and burger on the way home.

Thanks for all the responses. I was able to use the update and flash right over .3 and now .6 still rooted! I used titanium & rom manager to backup everything in case I needed to roll back. Its been a day without any issues.

Sprint Updates, do I want them? (rooted phone)

Hi all. I am a proud EVO user and generally love the phone. It's rooted for use w/ wifi tether. Not really using root much beyond that. Question, do I want or need the Sprint system update(s)? I had read that unrooting my phone could keep it from being rootable later on. Will the phone perform any better w/ the updates? Are there alternatives? My last phone was WM and it had a custom ROM. What do you all think?
Thanks!

lawyeradam said:
Hi all. I am a proud EVO user and generally love the phone. It's rooted for use w/ wifi tether. Not really using root much beyond that. Question, do I want or need the Sprint system update(s)? I had read that unrooting my phone could keep it from being rootable later on. Will the phone perform any better w/ the updates? Are there alternatives? My last phone was WM and it had a custom ROM. What do you all think?
Thanks!
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Anything Sprint releases ends up on here rooted and ready for flashing (usually within hours). I would not do any ota updates knowing that.
Sent on the go from my HTC EVO

Thanks, that being said, should I flash to a custom ROM? I'm sure all this has been asked and answered, so appologies to that. Also, if i do that, should I back up my current apps (what should I use) and when i restore can i restore to a newly flashed phone or is part of the back up process the system files?

People do create rooted versions of the stock ROMs that Sprint releases. So, you can try custom ROMs, but you don't HAVE to. You can get the latest one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
Here's a thread where you can grab all of the latest Radio, WiMax, PRL, etc updates:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485

No, installing and official OTA can cause you to lose root. Download the rooted version ^ or stall the latest update for your rom.

[Q] 4.04 update will not install on rooted Galaxy nexus help

So I am running the stock rom but have root access. the update pops up every 5 minutes to remind me to install it. I let it install and about 3 second in i get a yeild sign with an exclamation point in it. and the phone stops there. I waited for about 3 hours and nothing happened. Anybody know what I need to do here? I used Galaxy Nexus root toolkit v1.3 to root my phone. BTW i am with verizon

For as far as i now you cant update a rooted device. i sugest unrooting an try to update agian.

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yea that's what I thought I was going to have to do. but wanted to see if there was an update package someone had made for rooted devices like some others had.

nvm i think im going to trade the phone

So no one has an answer on this?

jordi97 said:
For as far as i now you cant update a rooted device. i sugest unrooting an try to update agian.
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Yes you can. You can't update a phone with CWM recovery though.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Correct a rooted phone can update but not with any custom recovery. You need to flash back to the factory stock recovery.
Sent from a phone...

OK so looks like everyone is here was incorrect. The 4.04 rooted update is here in the XDA forums all i needed to do was flash it and the new antenna and everything is working fine now. here are the links.
4.04 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631796
radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630438
Thank you Brandon for helping me out with this.
There are no stupid questions only stupid answers.

Sdalton19 said:
OK so looks like everyone is here was incorrect. The 4.04 rooted update is here in the XDA forums all i needed to do was flash it and the new antenna and everything is working fine now. here are the links.
4.04 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631796
radio http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1630438
Thank you Brandon for helping me out with this.
There are no stupid questions only stupid answers.
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Your right, stupid answers, that's not an ota update you did. That was pulled from a phone which was updated and packaged into a flashable file to use on a rooted device. But a carrier ota update as your device was asking you to update will not work without stock recovery.
Sent from a phone...

Isn't that exactly what i asked for second post in? Point is if you knew that, why didn't you say so? Look there's nothing wrong with being wrong every once in a while but be graceful about it. And if your going to give advice make sure you fully read the question and offer decent advice. You were saying there was no way to update it without unrooting and flashing back to stock. That was after I asked "yea that's what I thought I was going to have to do. but wanted to see if there was an update package someone had made for rooted devices like some others had." Is that not exactly what I asked for????

Sdalton19 said:
Isn't that exactly what i asked for second post in? Point is if you knew that, why didn't you say so? Look there's nothing wrong with being wrong every once in a while but be graceful about it. And if your going to give advice make sure you fully read the question and offer decent advice. You were saying there was no way to update it without unrooting and flashing back to stock. That was after I asked "yea that's what I thought I was going to have to do. but wanted to see if there was an update package someone had made for rooted devices like some others had." Is that not exactly what I asked for????
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Well, you are right that there are a lot of partially right and partially wrong answers in this thread. But what are you saying is not exactly right either.
1) There is a difference between updating your existing build (like what you had asked to do in the first post) and flashing an entirely new build.
2) There is a difference between running a stock ROM (like what you were running before) and running a ROM that looks like it's stock, but is not (like what you are running now).
3) Root has NO impact whatsoever on your ability to install OTA updates on your stock ROM.
4) An OTA update will NOT install with a stock recovery UNLESS you are using the stock recovery version that came with the build you are using. (It seems like a lot of toolkits are flashing non-matching stock recoveries).
5) An OTA update file can EASILY be installed if you have CWM installed. See here.
6) Your phrase "unrooting and flashing back to stock" is silly, as flashing back to stock replaces your ROM, so why would you need to "unroot" your current ROM only to flash a stock ROM overtop? You don't root a device - you root an Android OS build. The phrase "root my device" does not make any sense.

Troubleshooting Guide & FAQ: Updating stock ROM

Hi guys,
I saw many threads popping up in the Q & A section about applying updates on a stock rooted ROM. So i though it would be helpul if i shared my experiences and also clear some misconceptions.
This Thread mainly applies for those looking to upgrade from 2.09 to the recent 2.22/2.24 ! It may or may not work for any previous updates.
Q) My phone is rooted, Bootloader unlocked and CWM installed. How do i update to 2.22?
Ans.)
1) Backup your root using Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper.
2) Flash the stock recovery for your area using the All in one kit (or you can use the command line if you're familiar).
3) Download the update, click install, sit back and enjoy !
ITS that simple.
Q) What do i do if i cant find stock recovery for my latest version?
Ans) The recovery does not seem to have changed from version 1.56 to 2.09. You can flash the older recovery provided, you've checked your region is correct.
Q) Do i need to re-lock my bootloader for the update to take place?
Ans) NO! You don't need to re-lock anything. It updates perfectly fine with unlocked bootloader. Just flash Stock recovery !
Q) Do i lose my apps/settings/cache?
Ans) Since its an OTA from HTC, you retain everyhting!
Q) Will i lose my root if i update?
Ans) You will! Thats exactly why you're advised to backup your root.
Q) My updates fails with a red triangle and exclamation mark, what did i do wrong?
Ans) You need to understand that during the update, several stock apps are patched. If any of these STOCK APPS ( the ones that came with ya new phone) are uninstalled/frozen/meddled with, an error will pop up.
Q) How do i identify the cause of the error?
Ans) When the red triangle pops up, press the Volume UP, Volume DOWN and LOCK keys at the same time for a second and release. You should see the cause of your error. Try to restore/unfreeze the app thats causing the error. If that is not possible, try posting your error here to see if experts here can help.
All the stock recoveries can be found on this forum. If however u've a doubt, i'd be happy to help.
This guide is not perfect and may contain errors ( i've tried to make it complete to the best of my knowledge). I'm open to suggestions and questions

shubhamsizzles said:
Hi guys,
I saw many threads popping up in the Q & A section about applying updates on a stock rooted ROM. So i though it would be helpul if i shared my experiences and also clear some misconceptions.
This Thread mainly applies for those looking to upgrade from 2.09 to the recent 2.22/2.24 ! It may or may not work for any previous updates.
Q) My phone is rooted, Bootloader unlocked and CWM installed. How do i update to 2.22?
Ans.)
1) Backup your root using Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper.
2) Flash the stock recovery for your area using the All in one kit (or you can use the command line if you're familiar).
3) Download the update, click install, sit back and enjoy !
ITS that simple.
Q) What do i do if i cant find stock recovery for my latest version?
Ans) The recovery does not seem to have changed from version 1.56 to 2.09. You can flash the older recovery provided, you've checked your region is correct.
Q) Do i need to re-lock my bootloader for the update to take place?
Ans) NO! You don't need to re-lock anything. It updates perfectly fine with unlocked bootloader. Just flash Stock recovery !
Q) Do i lose my apps/settings/cache?
Ans) Since its an OTA from HTC, you retain everyhting!
Q) Will i lose my root if i update?
Ans) You will! Thats exactly why you're advised to backup your root.
Q) My updates fails with a red triangle and exclamation mark, what did i do wrong?
Ans) You need to understand that during the update, several stock apps are patched. If any of these STOCK APPS ( the ones that came with ya new phone) are uninstalled/frozen/meddled with, an error will pop up.
Q) How do i identify the cause of the error?
Ans) When the red triangle pops up, press the Volume UP, Volume DOWN and LOCK keys at the same time for a second and release. You should see the cause of your error. Try to restore/unfreeze the app thats causing the error. If that is not possible, try posting your error here to see if experts here can help.
All the stock recoveries can be found on this forum. If however u've a doubt, i'd be happy to help.
This guide is not perfect and may contain errors ( i've tried to make it complete to the best of my knowledge). I'm open to suggestions and questions
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Hi, thanks for the super explanations - last two really helped me - at least I found the reason why my phone does not want to Updates.
I send thanks to your instructions displayed mistake - I phone from T-Mobile Czech and the application of course I deleted it - it is useless.
Do you know if this can be downloaded somewhere, possibly where I got all this ROM mentioned in the error? I deleted more applications, so it probably will want to install these
I watched a lot of the internet, but I found none.
Sorry for my English ...

Well, if you made a backup if the current Rom/apps, then just extract and install the apps. Or else, I think you can extract the app from ruu if your version. You'll have to do it for each of the apps you uninstalled. That's gonna be a hell of a job, if u ask me.
I think its better you stick to the current software, or of you really wanna update, reset your phone via ruu. And then update.
Sent from my HTC One V using xda app-developers app

[Q] Noob question regarding verizon jelly bean update

I am unlocked and rooted on my Galaxy Nexus but otherwise stock, no ROM. When the Jelly Bean update came through I thought that even though I was rooted, I'd still be able to take it, but when I tried to, I got errors. So thinking about this, here are my questions.
1) Obviously, I'm not stock because the update is signed. If I wanted to take the update (I'd like to be as close to stock as possible still being rooted) am I correct in that I'd have to relock bootloader and unroot?
2) I tried to look through the development threads to see if there was a stock rooted rom that I could flash through Clockwork, but I didn't see anything that was THAT close to stock. I'm wondering what suggestions people would have for me to get what I'm looking for.
3) If I'm completely off base and I should be able to take that update, I'd like to know if anyone knows why I'm getting errors. I tried flashing the update as a zip through clockwork, but I got the same error (sorry, didn't write down).
I messed around with my OG Droid quite a bit, rooted my Droid Inc and Droid Charge, and after messing around with the crap UI's that OEM's wanted to wrap around android, I just really want that stock experience. All suggestions are welcome, thanks in advance (sorry for the noobishness).

I think its recovery that has to be stock to receive OTA updates. As your trying to flash with CMW you have a custom recovery.
I believe you are manually able to flash the update.

MagicMiloX said:
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1)If I wanted to take the update (I'd like to be as close to stock as possible still being rooted) am I correct in that I'd have to relock bootloader and unroot?
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Not correct. Lock state of your bootloader, and even root, have no impact on you being able to apply an OTA update.
MagicMiloX said:
2) I tried to look through the development threads to see if there was a stock rooted rom that I could flash through Clockwork, but I didn't see anything that was THAT close to stock. I'm wondering what suggestions people would have for me to get what I'm looking for.
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Did you read the sticky in the General section that talks about returning to stock?
MagicMiloX said:
3) If I'm completely off base and I should be able to take that update, I'd like to know if anyone knows why I'm getting errors. I tried flashing the update as a zip through clockwork, but I got the same error (sorry, didn't write down).
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Did you read the sticky in the General section that talks about OTA updates?