Hi all. I am a proud EVO user and generally love the phone. It's rooted for use w/ wifi tether. Not really using root much beyond that. Question, do I want or need the Sprint system update(s)? I had read that unrooting my phone could keep it from being rootable later on. Will the phone perform any better w/ the updates? Are there alternatives? My last phone was WM and it had a custom ROM. What do you all think?
Thanks!
lawyeradam said:
Hi all. I am a proud EVO user and generally love the phone. It's rooted for use w/ wifi tether. Not really using root much beyond that. Question, do I want or need the Sprint system update(s)? I had read that unrooting my phone could keep it from being rootable later on. Will the phone perform any better w/ the updates? Are there alternatives? My last phone was WM and it had a custom ROM. What do you all think?
Thanks!
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Anything Sprint releases ends up on here rooted and ready for flashing (usually within hours). I would not do any ota updates knowing that.
Sent on the go from my HTC EVO
Thanks, that being said, should I flash to a custom ROM? I'm sure all this has been asked and answered, so appologies to that. Also, if i do that, should I back up my current apps (what should I use) and when i restore can i restore to a newly flashed phone or is part of the back up process the system files?
People do create rooted versions of the stock ROMs that Sprint releases. So, you can try custom ROMs, but you don't HAVE to. You can get the latest one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=874251
Here's a thread where you can grab all of the latest Radio, WiMax, PRL, etc updates:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715485
No, installing and official OTA can cause you to lose root. Download the rooted version ^ or stall the latest update for your rom.
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Engadget states that Verizon is going to push the official 2.2 Froyo update tomorrow for all HTC incredible users.
IF this is true I have a few questions. I'm currently rooted and running Sky Raider 3.0 RC2. I did a nand backup of my old original 2.1 Stock sense rom. If i revert back to that, can I just check for updates and apply the new stock 2.2 Froyo rom that is pushed from verizon?
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ej_424
It is true. Unlike previous rumors, VZW employees were told today (this afternoon) and it shows on their bulletin screens now.
That and sometime between 1pm and 2:30pm they updated the support page.
So who's gonna jump in and who's gonna wait?
Please answer my question on how to go about updating. I'll jump in but want to knwo what process i have to take. Is there a chance that I wont be able to re-root if i go with the OTA update?
why go through the trouble of unrooting and going back to stock just to receive an update "officially" thats already been rooted and simplified here in 2 threads?
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why go through the trouble of unrooting and going back to stock just to receive an update "officially" thats already been rooted and simplified here in 2 threads?
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Honestly.. It's pre-rooted, and is almost positively the exact same as the official OTA.. why bother?
ej_424 said:
Please answer my question on how to go about updating. I'll jump in but want to knwo what process i have to take. Is there a chance that I wont be able to re-root if i go with the OTA update?
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Honestly there is so much information out there. Do what I did when I first got my Incredible. Do a search, and read, read, read. Mind you when you're done your head is going to be spinning. But that is the best way to get all the information you need.
To answer your question.
it was said along time ago that accepting the 2.2 OTA may cause you to not be able to re-root.
now, unrevoked forever takes S-OFF and with this you can accept the 2.2 OTA and still keep root, it was permanent, but with the new release of S-ON there is absolutely no reason not to use S-OFF, then un-root, if you want the "official" 2.2.
I thought that SkyRaider 2.5.2 and 3.0 were built off of the previous leak of FroYo 2.2...am I wrong? I love SkyRaider Vanilla, so I don't get giving that up for an "official" OTA? Maybe it is for some, but I don't see what else you'd really get that you don't have yet that was built into the 2.2 ROM's...
Mods will probably move this to Q and A,
But, you have to provide more info as what radio you are on, hboot.., etc. There are several threads started providing info as to how to prepare yourself...
I mean, the leak OTA has been ripped apart and placed all of this forum. The only thing you can get from verizon will be the satisfaction of a cool Blockbuster app and more vzw crapware, but hey if its what you want
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I thought that SkyRaider 2.5.2 and 3.0 were built off of the previous leak of FroYo 2.2...am I wrong? I love SkyRaider Vanilla, so I don't get giving that up for an "official" OTA? Maybe it is for some, but I don't see what else you'd really get that you don't have yet that was built into the 2.2 ROM's...
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Skyraider pre2.0 was based off an evo port, yes. 2.0 and onward is based off the leak, hence the necessity of the radio upgrade.
Gotcha. That's what I thought, as when I installed SkyRaider 2.2, I remember getting an email saying "thanks for registering your Nexus One" or something like that... Thank you for confirming, much appreciated!
Your recovery image must be stock as well. There are several threads that provide the needed file to return the DInc back to 100% stock/pre-root (just make sure S-OFF is applied first).
Mandatory OTA?
I read the pdf files from Verizon's website on the expected 2.2 OTA, and it says it is MANDATORY. That the only options it gives you are install and DELAY install. That it will keep bugging you every 30 minutes til you do !
I have used Unrevoked3, and Unrevoked Forever and love the phone as it is now (particularly the wifi tether). I want to avoid the OTA but do I HAVE to accept it? If I do, I hope I can reload the version I got with Unrevoked3.
(I assume that Verizon will, in their new version make you PAY to wifi tether)
Any info on this?
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charlier26 said:
I read the pdf files from Verizon's website on the expected 2.2 OTA, and it says it is MANDATORY. That the only options it gives you are install and DELAY install. That it will keep bugging you every 30 minutes til you do !
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I'll be pissed if thats the case. gotta do everything all over again. But if we're already @ 2.2 shouldn't it recognize that and not force the OTA to even appear on our phones?
I'm still pretty new to this so sorry if I sound like a complete outsider lol
For those of us who've rooted, forever'd, upgraded radio, and installed some leaked version of Froyo already -- if/when we get prompted to update the phone should we accept or deny it?
With the OTA update will be a radio update as well. And if they attempt to install over the same version won't that be the same as manually attempting to update it twice which equals brick?
Or will the update detect an upgraded radio already and skip that step?
Hackenstein said:
For those of us who've rooted, forever'd, upgraded radio, and installed some leaked version of Froyo already -- if/when we get prompted to update the phone should we accept or deny it?
With the OTA update will be a radio update as well. And if they attempt to install over the same version won't that be the same as manually attempting to update it twice which equals brick?
Or will the update detect an upgraded radio already and skip that step?
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IIRC, you will only be prompted if you have sock recovery installed. As for the OTA, it includes updates to the radio and HBOOT. The update doesn't check to see if you already have an upgraded radio because, in theory, no consumer should have it yet.
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The update doesn't check to see if you already have an upgraded radio because, in theory, no consumer should have it yet.
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If this is the case, there will be a whole lot of bricks out there, right? I thought I read that if you flash a radio twice you're bricked. Maybe not with S_Off.
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If this is the case, there will be a whole lot of bricks out there, right? I thought I read that if you flash a radio twice you're bricked. Maybe not with S_Off.
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Not a 100% sure but I think its only if you flash a radio.diff twice you get brick.
Never the less just don't have the updated radio with old builds and stock recovery and all should be fine.
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Nope
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If this is the case, there will be a whole lot of bricks out there, right? I thought I read that if you flash a radio twice you're bricked. Maybe not with S_Off.
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That applied because the prior unrEVOked hack was simply a diff ... it patched. So if you apply the patch to the patch, THEN you brick. Flashing a wholesale radio (while higher on the danger scale) is not the same.
I flashed the rooted 3.36.651.3 ROM when it came out. Now that .6 is out, and 2.2 has been rooted can I accept the .6 OTA? I am not sure what will happen.
I am fully rooted and unlocked. Will I retain root? I prefer not to wipe my phone if I dont have to. Thanks for helping a confused noob!
You're better off flashing the rooted version of .6 instead of doing the OTA. The OTA will unroot you unless you have Unrevoked Forever, but even then, why risk it? Even if you did do the OTA, you COULD unroot, but that would be more of a "oh, crap, I screwed up, at least I can fix it" way of doing things. I'm not super-familiar with what UF actually does, but definitely don't do anything without installing that and switching to S-OFF. Then you can try the .6 OTA. If it works, great. If not, you'll have to use the new root method (and wipe your phone anyway) to downgrade, then you'll HAVE to flash the rooted version or another custom ROM after that to get up to 2.2 again.
Thats what I figured too. I wasnt sure if the OTA would leave the su and various pieces in place or what... Is it safe to flash the .6 rooted over .3 rooted? Suggestions on which version? I prefer to stay as close to stock as I can. Thanks for the quick reply.
^^What he said^^ Here's one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=743352
If you want stock, use the stock version. There's one odexed and one deodexed. Don't ask what the difference is, there's already answers to that around. Use the wiki link at the top of each forum to find all the ROMs.
As for flashing up to a new version without wiping, that's up to you. Within the same version (stock to stock) it should be okay, but if you're switching to a custom version, you have to wipe. I do anyway just to make sure there aren't fragments or anything lying around that will screw things up. I'm cautious like that.
netarchy recommends doing a full wipe first. Has anyone done an upgrade over .3 successfully? There also appear to people experiencing issues toward the 56th page.... that was my initial concern in why I was asking about the OTA.
cool, I will flash the one Jim M linked. I have been lurking it for a while. Thanks!
after i rooted last night, i tried to update to the ota, and keep root then, i could download the file, but it would not install, started to, but froze everytime, tried it a few times, and just said forget it.
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If you want stock, use the stock version. There's one odexed and one deodexed. Don't ask what the difference is, there's already answers to that around. Use the wiki link at the top of each forum to find all the ROMs.
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I was just going to ask that. So I went to the wiki ansd got:
Create the page "Deodexed" on this wiki!
I did a search and came up with:
Search: Keyword(s): deodexed ; Forum: HTC Supersonic: EVO 4G and child forums Showing results 1 to 25 of 170
AH: http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7435282
deodexed = you can change things, such as themes, more easliy transported and packed smaller or changed.
odexed = basic stock
That's it in a nutshell from a nut.
@Gary - I'm waving back, can you see me?
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@Gary - I'm waving back, can you see me?
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Is that you with the bottle in your hand? I think I'll stop at Outback and grab a beer and burger on the way home.
Thanks for all the responses. I was able to use the update and flash right over .3 and now .6 still rooted! I used titanium & rom manager to backup everything in case I needed to roll back. Its been a day without any issues.
If and when the Gingerbread update gets pushed out, how will us custom ROMmers be notified? Will we receive notifications asking us to download the update and then have to deny it? Will we have to unroot then upgrade? I wasn't around for the 2.2 update so I am a little curious as to how this all works on the Evo. Feel like such a noob right now but I really don't feel liking bricking my Evo due to an act of stupidity.
Don't have to unroot, it should show there is an update, update and it will take off root and go to stock 2.3, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
You aren't going to need to do anything, other than NOT take the OTA. The only thing you will need to do is wait from 2-10 hours after the update is out in the wild for the devs to get their hands on it and give us a fully rooted build to flash. It does not take long around here. There is absolutely no need to unroot and take the OTA. Who knows, if you did that you may not even be able to root again. So basically all you're going to need to do for the update is wait for the devs, and then flash a rom as usual. Maybe some new radios or something too, who knows.
I'm more concerned about when they will push the damn update. *Supposedly* it's Q2, but I'd bet if that's true, it will be late Q2.
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Don't have to unroot, it should show there is an update, update and it will take off root and go to stock 2.3, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
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Sure, lots of people say "wait for a rooted version of the update," but all I want to know is, is it POSSIBLE to safely upgrade even if you are rooted? Would flashing the stock update remove ClockWork recovery?
yes i was rooted before 2.2 and i was having a crazy day, long story short i accepted the OTA not paying attention and it got me a weird reboot then i was unrooted and on 2.2 i had to wait for a root method for it. but i heard of some people having their phone glitch in crazy ways, also that first OTA sprint rolled out had a bug that was bricking some phones
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If and when the Gingerbread update gets pushed out, how will us custom ROMmers be notified? Will we receive notifications asking us to download the update and then have to deny it? Will we have to unroot then upgrade? I wasn't around for the 2.2 update so I am a little curious as to how this all works on the Evo. Feel like such a noob right now but I really don't feel liking bricking my Evo due to an act of stupidity.
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Developers will simply make new roms, and then you can flash the "update" of that rom. it'd be the same way of flashing CM7 nightlies.
Or just make sure you are s-off, take the update, install it. Then install SU from recovery and you are good to go. Thats the whole point of s-off (other than flashing PRI, NV, and Radios of course)
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If you rooted with Unrevoked and have Unrevoked Forever, then theoretically you should be able to flash the update and still be s-off to flash a rooted rom over the update. You'd have to push the custom recovery back onto the phone, though. However, I wouldn't be the guinea pig for the theory myself. I'd keep 2.2 until a rooted 2.3 rom is available and then flash that. No one knows what will happen if you flash the OTA update as no one has is or knows what's inside of it.
Once it starts being pushed out, it will just be a matter of time before some posts a thread either:
a) crying because the update broke their root.
b) gloating because the update did NOT break their root.
Basically, don't accept it. Play it safe and wait. We've been on 2.2 for well over half a year, so 1 more day isn't going to kill anyone.
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To make it simple, the result of accepting the OTA would either:
A- luckily do nothing
B- "Break" your phone and not be able to re-root
r916 said:
Don't have to unroot, it should show there is an update, update and it will take off root and go to stock 2.3, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
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You are correct!
Theoretical question... If you're on a custom non-stock ROM (Myn or CM or whatever) and you accept the OTA, what would happen to the ROM? I don't think it would revert you back to the stock ROM because that ROM isn't on your phone anymore. I can't imagine CM would continue to work since it's not Sense. Would a Sense-based ROM (assuming you reinstalled all the Sprint bloatware) continue working with all the customizations even though you don't have root any more? Or does the OTA rewrite the entire ROM? Or would you just screw up your phone unpredictably?
I'm certainly not going to try this myself, but I'm curious as to what would happen.
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Theoretical question... If you're on a custom non-stock ROM (Myn or CM or whatever) and you accept the OTA, what would happen to the ROM? I don't think it would revert you back to the stock ROM because that ROM isn't on your phone anymore. I can't imagine CM would continue to work since it's not Sense. Would a Sense-based ROM (assuming you reinstalled all the Sprint bloatware) continue working with all the customizations even though you don't have root any more? Or does the OTA rewrite the entire ROM? Or would you just screw up your phone unpredictably?
I'm certainly not going to try this myself, but I'm curious as to what would happen.
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The OTA update would include the new stock 2.3 rom in it. It would wipe whatever you have on your phone (regardless of whether it is Sense or not) and install the OEM Sprint 2.3-based rom that all will eventually be on all new Evos when HTC ships them out.
So been while since I've done much rom flashing. Had an EVO for 2+ years and tried lots of ROMS, but then got the sprint GNEX because I just wanted vanilla android without having to mess with ROMS as much. As such, I'm just running stock 4.1.1, with it rooted for a few apps and wifi tethering which I flashed after rooting. Looking to update to the new stock Sprint 4.2.1 firmware, keeping root and wifi tethering. Back on the EVO, every time there was a new firmare update, someone would post a "stock rooted" ROM (not that I used them), that didn't have anything done to it, but can't seem to find that with the latest Sprint GNEX update, only one that seems to come close has been fiddled with, deodexed, causing some issues. I'm also not used to flashing without my data being on a removable SD card. So I'm wondering, is there a way to just flash a rooted version of the Sprint firmware, keeping my data and wifi tethering (or by just flashing a new 4.2.1 wifi tethering patch), or can I use OTA rootkeeper, flash the OTA update, and restore root? I've got latest TWRP recovery btw, which it seems I would have to change back to stock recovery to flash the OTA update correct? Thanks for any direction anyone can provide
First off, im not sure about wifi tethering, but it is an option on gsm android settings. I would use OTA rootkeeper, but you need the stock recovery first to accept the ota. Did you check this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419170
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First off, im not sure about wifi tethering, but it is an option on gsm android settings. I would use OTA rootkeeper, but you need the stock recovery first to accept the ota. Did you check this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419170
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Thanks so much for pointing me in the right direction. Swear I tried to search other threads before asking but somehow missed that one, looks like it should tell me what I need. Think I was looking too much in the development forum for a full ROM to flash, and missed that thread in the general forum about just applying the update. Thanks again!!
Hi,
I've searched but not found answers to my questions, so I apologize if these are repeats. Like many of you, I've gotten the notification that version 4.3 is ready for my Verizon HTC One. I used RumRunner originally, so I am rooted and have s-off, but aside from that I'm running the stock ROM. For the record, I have run a few scripts (from these forums) and apps ("NoBloat") to remove the Verizon bloatware, so I'm not exactly running "pure" stock.
Here are my questions:
1. What's the best way to get the phone to stop bugging me if I want to stay on 4.2? Can I turn off the notification? I'm not sure which app controls this, so I'm currently unable to get it to stop notifying me.
2. If I wanted to try downloading and installing the OTA update (I am running the TWRP recovery), where would I find the downloaded file in the recovery directories, and what is the file name? Is there any risk to doing thison top of my current ROM? I kind of don't want to bother with restoring to stock, then updating, then re-rooting/etc. (Hence question one.)
Thanks in advance for any advice, folks!
Cheers!
himayv said:
Hi,
I've searched but not found answers to my questions, so I apologize if these are repeats. Like many of you, I've gotten the notification that version 4.3 is ready for my Verizon HTC One. I used RumRunner originally, so I am rooted and have s-off, but aside from that I'm running the stock ROM. For the record, I have run a few scripts (from these forums) and apps ("NoBloat") to remove the Verizon bloatware, so I'm not exactly running "pure" stock.
Here are my questions:
1. What's the best way to get the phone to stop bugging me if I want to stay on 4.2? Can I turn off the notification? I'm not sure which app controls this, so I'm currently unable to get it to stop notifying me.
2. If I wanted to try downloading and installing the OTA update (I am running the TWRP recovery), where would I find the downloaded file in the recovery directories, and what is the file name? Is there any risk to doing thison top of my current ROM? I kind of don't want to bother with restoring to stock, then updating, then re-rooting/etc. (Hence question one.)
Thanks in advance for any advice, folks!
Cheers!
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Answers: 1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2574265
2) YOU MUST be STOCK, and the stock recovery to take the OTA assuming you are on the .15 version. Here is the link to the stock recovery: http://goo.gl/OdVbX6
You can flash one of santod040's stock odex roms right on top of your current ROM. NO need to wipe data.
Some advice before continuing, make sure you are not only s-off, but bootloader unlocked as well ( believe me it will save you a headache ) Here how WITHOUT HTCDEV
Then swap out the recovery, then take the OTA, flash back your recovery, then flash superSU to the ROM, rooted! That's how i did mine.