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I would like to better understand how to correctly switch back and forth between roms.
Whenever I have put a rom on my phone, I have done a full wipe and reinstalled from scratch (and then made a nandroid backup.)
I don't understand what I need to do once I get my MikFroyo set up the way I want, what steps need to be taken to back it up how I have it and then how to correctly load up a new rom?
And another question, when I go from one ROM to another, if I use a backup of some sort to load up, what areas need to be wiped prior to restoring the backup's?
So what do I need to do in order to switch up between Sense based and AOSP roms depending on the mood and what I am feeling on any given day that will allow the least amount of time but the most accurate and correct method of doing this?
Thank you for the help,
Whiteice
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
I would like to better understand how to correctly switch back and forth between roms.
Whenever I have put a rom on my phone, I have done a full wipe and reinstalled from scratch (and then made a nandroid backup.)
I don't understand what I need to do once I get my MikFroyo set up the way I want, what steps need to be taken to back it up how I have it and then how to correctly load up a new rom?
And another question, when I go from one ROM to another, if I use a backup of some sort to load up, what areas need to be wiped prior to restoring the backup's?
Thank you for the help,
Whiteice
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The best bet to keep your settings would be to do a nandroid backup after you set it up the way you want and then rename the backup to say something like Latest Mikfroyo.
Then wipe, flash, and reinstall apps the way you want it either manually or using Titanium Backup or Appbrain. Then repeat for every ROM.
I have a ton of backups made already for almost all the ROMs out there and I switch back and forth for testing purposes.
Try not to keep the nandroid on your SD Card since it takes up a ton of space.
But there are differences between certain ROMs. Some might use A2SD or only work with a certain kernel. So you would have to keep those as well. Rename them to match the correct ROM as well. So MikFroyoKernel.zip for example.
Nandroids won't back up the correct kernel. So you would want to wipe > flash kernel (if needed) > reboot > boot into recovery > wipe > restore nandroid.
That will do it for the most part. But mind you, sometimes the nandroid will fail. Not sure exactly what causes this but you can always restore another backup. Sometimes flashing the original ROM then restoring works as well.
WhiteiceDMSTech said:
So what do I need to do in order to switch up between Sense based and AOSP roms depending on the mood and what I am feeling on any given day that will allow the least amount of time but the most accurate and correct method of doing this?
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If you do full wipe won't have any problem going between Sense and AOSP. Just don't import your settings cause could mess things up.
Also, I always wipe/format the sd-ext as well. Depending on how you are set-up could have apps from the old rom show up in new after boot.
CCallahan said:
If you do full wipe won't have any problem going between Sense and AOSP. Just don't import your settings cause could mess things up.
Also, I always wipe/format the sd-ext as well. Depending on how you are set-up could have apps from the old rom show up in new after boot.
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nope, it dont matter if ur going between aosp or sense, nand will restore everything... but u might wanna read up some more on the latest amon-ra recoveries dat have been released, because whenever i do a nand restore, i get stuck in a boot loop, n its quite annoying...
vikramjatt11 said:
nope, it dont matter if ur going between aosp or sense, nand will restore everything... but u might wanna read up some more on the latest amon-ra recoveries dat have been released, because whenever i do a nand restore, i get stuck in a boot loop, n its quite annoying...
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Only if there is an existing backup to go to. OP really didn't specify whether switching between Sense & AOSP backups or new installs in that last paragraph.
Hi everyone,
I got a question. Is it a must to wipe before flashing a rom? For example, I'm on a rom and i want to flash another rom. Why is it a must to wipe it? What happens if I don't wipe it and flash a new rom?
Kind regards,
Semih
Its not a must but its highly recommended if you don't sometimes you'll get bootloops, sometimes you'll get random crashes and apps not working or you could get very lucky and everything might work fine. You should at least wipe the /cache partition, you won't lose any data.
semihsikier said:
Hi everyone,
I got a question. Is it a must to wipe before flashing a rom? For example, I'm on a rom and i want to flash another rom. Why is it a must to wipe it? What happens if I don't wipe it and flash a new rom?
Kind regards,
Semih
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if you are on the same rom and the dev updates then most of the times no it is no need to update. if you are trying different roms though then yeah best to do is wipe. if you go into ARHD thread in the first page there is a script called superwipe. download that and flash it before you flash a new rom and that will do all the wipes for you. or just do it the old fashion way in recovery and reason why to wipe sometimes so you do not have old system data from previous roms
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if you are on the same rom and the dev updates then most of the times no it is no need to update. if you are trying different roms though then yeah best to do is wipe. if you go into ARHD thread in the first page there is a script called superwipe. download that and flash it before you flash a new rom and that will do all the wipes for you. or just do it the old fashion way in recovery and reason why to wipe sometimes so you do not have old system data from previous roms
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Also make sure 100% you have your Rom on your sd as you can't mount sd in recovery and after running there is no system.
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treebill said:
Also make sure 100% you have your Rom on your sd as you can't mount sd in recovery and after running there is no system.
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And also a backup..that is the most important thing...went through a lot of threads that i read and most of the people on some threads ask on how to restore using RUU cause they do not have a backup of their stock rom..So please always make a backup my friend
It's not. They call that a "dirty flash". I've never done it but I've heard that it's not advised.
I want to flash a new rom, but i don't want to use titanium backup to restore my apps, thats to much time. And if I wipe it, my settings will lost. So, i don't want to do it. But it seems that I have to do it, otherwise i'll get some errors and bootloops etc. I thank you all for your fast reply. I'll wipe my phone
A nandroid backup. If I do it while on the old rom, can I restore it on the new rom? not an updated rom, just another rom of another developer..
semihsikier said:
I want to flash a new rom, but i don't want to use titanium backup to restore my apps, thats to much time. And if I wipe it, my settings will lost. So, i don't want to do it. But it seems that I have to do it, otherwise i'll get some errors and bootloops etc. I thank you all for your fast reply. I'll wipe my phone
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contacts you can save them if you have a google account my friend. regarding backing up apps with Titanium backup if you have the Pro version it is all a matter on a few clicks. so my advise would be get it if you do not have the Pro version
semihsikier said:
A nandroid backup. If I do it while on the old rom, can I restore it on the new rom? not an updated rom, just another rom of another developer..
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Yeah thats fine, I usually flash the old rom first then restore the backup when coming from cm9 or miui to stock to avoid bootloops etc.
NoobTerminator said:
contacts you can save them if you have a google account my friend. regarding backing up apps with Titanium backup if you have the Pro version it is all a matter on a few clicks. so my advise would be get it if you do not have the Pro version
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Yes, I have the pro version, thats not a problem. Ok, I'm going to wipe it for the safety. Thanks a lot
semihsikier said:
Yes, I have the pro version, thats not a problem. Ok, I'm going to wipe it for the safety. Thanks a lot
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no problem mate
Hello.
First sorry for my English so poor, it happens that my favorite language is not really speak Spanish. Anyway, that's beside the point.
I've always used Android Revolution HD, which is an amazing rom, but would like to try the CoreDroid v4.4 seeing ONE X has a very attractive graphical interface, and I wonder if I can just flash this rom without losing my applications, my games (and saved games) because when I change from one version of Android Revolution to a newer, I have no change in what I have on the phone.
Can I normally install without thorough cleaning (super wipe)?
Thanks in advance. Greetings from Dominican Republic excellent forum!!
It's highly recommended to do a full wipe before installing a new ROM - just make sure to backup everything you need before you do so. You can try installing it without a full wipe, but you'll have a greater chance of running into complications that way. All user files in your sdcard will not be touched during a super wipe.
tomascus said:
It's highly recommended to do a full wipe before installing a new ROM - just make sure to backup everything you need before you do so. You can try installing it without a full wipe, but you'll have a greater chance of running into complications that way. All user files in your sdcard will not be touched during a super wipe.
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Thanks for responding. What application do you recommend to do the backup? I have Titanium Backup, that's okay?
Yeah, use that to backup your user applications and use 'Go Backup Pro' to backup contacts, call logs etc.
Make sure to make a nanodroid backup just in case something goes wrong or you want to go back to ARHD.
tomascus said:
Yeah, use that to backup your user applications and use 'Go Backup Pro' to backup contacts, call logs etc.
Make sure to make a nanodroid backup just in case something goes wrong or you want to go back to ARHD.
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Sorry if I bother you, but I do not know how to do that the backup nanodroid, hehe
[email protected] said:
Sorry if I bother you, but I do not know how to do that the backup nanodroid, hehe
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From the recovery, i.e., clockworkmod.
I tried to make a backup nanodroid having free 2gb sd card in my and in the process he told me he did not have enough space, I suppose it's very heavy. In which case you would use a backup nanodroid? And which option should I choose in Titanium Backup? Backup all user app + system data?
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I tried to make a backup nanodroid having free 2gb sd card in my and in the process he told me he did not have enough space, I suppose it's very heavy. In which case you would use a backup nanodroid? And which option should I choose in Titanium Backup? Backup all user app + system data?
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A nandroid backup is a full system backup: besides the andriod system itself it includes all your setting and all your apps (so: ARDH, setting and apps).
With a nandroid backup its very easy to go back to what you had; just restore the nandroid backup from within the recovery and your phone is back to exactly the way it was.
The only downside of a nandroid backup is the size, but then again, it needs to be because it includes everything!
I would recommend making some extra space on your phone and making the nandroid backup. This way, if Coredroid doesn't work for you, its very easy to go back to your ARHD.
Please keep in mind that since there is no s-off it is always neccesary to flash the right boot.img before going to another ROM or before going back!
Since you'll be using Titanium Backup switching ROMs it doesn't make sense to backup system data; big change there are some differences between system data (settings and stuff) for different ROMs. I would just backup all user apps and try to restore them in Coredroid.
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A nandroid backup is a full system backup: besides the andriod system itself it includes all your setting and all your apps (so: ARDH, setting and apps).
With a nandroid backup its very easy to go back to what you had; just restore the nandroid backup from within the recovery and your phone is back to exactly the way it was.
The only downside of a nandroid backup is the size, but then again, it needs to be because it includes everything!
I would recommend making some extra space on your phone and making the nandroid backup. This way, if Coredroid doesn't work for you, its very easy to go back to your ARHD.
Please keep in mind that since there is no s-off it is always neccesary to flash the right boot.img before going to another ROM or before going back!
Since you'll be using Titanium Backup switching ROMs it doesn't make sense to backup system data; big change there are some differences between system data (settings and stuff) for different ROMs. I would just backup all user apps and try to restore them in Coredroid.
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Wow, thank you very much for this comprehensive information. I'll make a nanodroid backup and a backup of my applications with Titanium Backup to restore in Coredroid, and if not what I expected, just use the nanodroid backup to return to ARHD. I'll be back to tell you how I was. Thank you!
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Wow, thank you very much for this comprehensive information. I'll make a nanodroid backup and a backup of my applications with Titanium Backup to restore in Coredroid, and if not what I expected, just use the nanodroid backup to return to ARHD. I'll be back to tell you how I was. Thank you!
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No problem, glad to help
Just don't forget u also need to flash the boot.img before restoring the nandroid backup.
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Wow, thank you very much for this comprehensive information. I'll make a nanodroid backup and a backup of my applications with Titanium Backup to restore in Coredroid, and if not what I expected, just use the nanodroid backup to return to ARHD. I'll be back to tell you how I was. Thank you!
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just a heads up before you go and restore those apps: DONT DO IT!!!!!!!!
backing up is all good, i guess for the same rom at least. 9 times out of 10 restoring a backup, especially on the different rom, will completely bugger up the rom, and it will run like complete crap
just install the apps manually trust me - was rooting and custom romming my friends sensation a while ago, and he restored a backup, and it broke, so we had to wipe and reinstall the rom again to get it working properly
EDIT: definitely make the nandroid backup though.
lawrence750 said:
just a heads up before you go and restore those apps: DONT DO IT!!!!!!!!
backing up is all good, i guess for the same rom at least. 9 times out of 10 restoring a backup, especially on the different rom, will completely bugger up the rom, and it will run like complete crap
just install the apps manually trust me - was rooting and custom romming my friends sensation a while ago, and he restored a backup, and it broke, so we had to wipe and reinstall the rom again to get it working properly
EDIT: definitely make the nandroid backup though.
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Probably will bugger up the ROM if you try restore system apps. Didn't have any problems restoring all my user apps.
lawrence750 said:
just a heads up before you go and restore those apps: DONT DO IT!!!!!!!!
backing up is all good, i guess for the same rom at least. 9 times out of 10 restoring a backup, especially on the different rom, will completely bugger up the rom, and it will run like complete crap
just install the apps manually trust me - was rooting and custom romming my friends sensation a while ago, and he restored a backup, and it broke, so we had to wipe and reinstall the rom again to get it working properly
EDIT: definitely make the nandroid backup though.
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Hehehehe well my friends... I flash Coredroid and restore all applications including system apps from Titanium Backup. Everything is working perfectly.
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Hehehehe well my friends... I flash Coredroid and restore all applications including system apps from Titanium Backup. Everything is working perfectly.
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that's good to hear - enjoy
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Hehehehe well my friends... I flash Coredroid and restore all applications including system apps from Titanium Backup. Everything is working perfectly.
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Great news, enjoy!
Be sure leave a reply in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1861399 to share your experiences with Coredroid.
I'm always curious for experiences with other roms and I'm sure other are too :laugh:
Well my friends, but I think a good rom, used just kept only until Android Revolution HD JellyBean reached (only missing a few days). Anyway thanks for your help, I learned a lot including how to backup properly.
you're welcome, glad to help
I'm waiting for ARHD Jelly Bean as well, but it's hard
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Hi. I backed up my phone using the backup method found here: http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/28296/full-backup-of-non-rooted-devices
This method uses CMD and creates an android backup file (.ab) I want to unlock my bootloader and add the custom clockwork recovery. Of course unlocking the bootloader wipes everything. So if i were to restore everything with the .ab file, then do the custom recovey with the superuser thing, would that give me root, and would all of my apps and data be restored as they are right now?
Probably a stupid question, but i want to be completely 100% sure i won't mess up my phone. I know its going to void warranty, which would be a problem if i dropped it of course
Thanks
It should work yes, you can also backup apps with an app called carbon. Free in the playstore.
Then unlock the bootloader,flash a custom recovery and make a backup of the stock rom in there right away too (needed when you want to go back to full stock for future updates) its called a nandroid backup.
Then root it and restore, or install a brand new custom already rooted rom
Thanks a lot
If it was a custom rom i chose to install, will it still restore? or would it need to be the original stock for the restore to work properly?
Danw20 said:
Thanks a lot
If it was a custom rom i chose to install, will it still restore? or would it need to be the original stock for the restore to work properly?
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Afaik know you can restore apps on any rom with carbon. Watch out with restoring system data, it can crash the rom.
Because some custom roms have more changes and if you restore system parts it will break the rom. But apps should not be a problem. The most important thing is that you do a nandroid backup of the stock rom. The rest is easy to setup new in the worst case.
Brilliant. Thanks for the help, much apreciated.
Was half expecting an answer like that, i think i will give root stock a go, then probably when HTC stop updating i will be very tempted to give a custom a go.
Cheers
I have unlocked the bootloader, i think i have flashed the recovery, downloaded nandroid and still says i need root, so i downloaded the superuser thing and when i try to install the binary thing it says there is an error. Anything i can do?
Update: I have learnt Its all good now.
Good mate ! Have fun with your rooted phone
CASE CLOSED !
Hey folks!
This may be a silly but I just want to clarify, it is possible to switch between roms quickly with Nandroid backups?
In better words, I mean to have a Nandroid backup of Rom A with all the apps, settings etc. saved, and I flash Rom B to see if I like it, and if I want to switch back to Rom A, all I have to do to get back to where I was previously is to do a clean install of Rom A and restore Nandroid backup. Is this possible? Google tells me it's possible with other devices, but I just want to make sure.
Thanks!
No need to even do a clean restore.
Just backup rom A, install rom B, and when you want to go back to A, make a backup of B and do a nandroid restore.
Of course after wiping data and cache.
It's not silly, but the answer is obvious when you think about it, and most People figure stuff like this out from just trying it, if you've already made a backup it doesn't matter if something you attempt fails.
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tangosierra_ said:
No need to even do a clean restore.
Just backup rom A, install rom B, and when you want to go back to A, make a backup of B and do a nandroid restore.
Of course after wiping data and cache.
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XperienceD said:
It's not silly, but the answer is obvious when you think about it, and most People figure stuff like this out from just trying it, if you've already made a backup it doesn't matter if something you attempt fails.
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Thanks for clearing it up! It's the nerves that always get to me when I do these things
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It's the nerves that always get to me when I do these things
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I hear ya.
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