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overclocking epic 4g

What is the safest speed you can overclock the samsung epic 4g? I am using the Tegrak overclock right now, and I found out the ultimate can run up to 2ghz.

That doesn't work. You have to be using a custom kernel to overclock the Epic and it is only safe up to 1.4ghz.

063_XOBX said:
That doesn't work. You have to be using a custom kernel to overclock the Epic and it is only safe up to 1.4ghz.
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FYI, complete newb to this stuff, so please bear with me. Are you saying that it takes a custom kernal for the Tegrak Ulitimate, or the the version I have right now? With the Tegrak Overclock, I put it at 1.3 and it seems noticably faster.

Tegrak ultimate shouldn't work at all, and you're lucky it didn't royally screw up your phone without a kernel with support for overclocking. Look in development and select a custom kernel to fit your tastes then download either SetCPU or OverClock widget and use one of them to raise the clock speed on your phone. I recommend either of those because they are tried and tested methods.

063_XOBX said:
Tegrak ultimate shouldn't work at all, and you're lucky it didn't royally screw up your phone without a kernel with support for overclocking. Look in development and select a custom kernel to fit your tastes then download either SetCPU or OverClock widget and use one of them to raise the clock speed on your phone. I recommend either of those because they are tried and tested methods.
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Weird, on the android market it says that it (the standard Tegrak) works with stock kernels, custom kernels, and custom roms. I checked before installing it and I just double checked it now

For the record, it has been a while since I played with my phone, but it's kernel right now is 2.6.32.9

063_XOBX said:
Tegrak ultimate shouldn't work at all, and you're lucky it didn't royally screw up your phone without a kernel with support for overclocking. Look in development and select a custom kernel to fit your tastes then download either SetCPU or OverClock widget and use one of them to raise the clock speed on your phone. I recommend either of those because they are tried and tested methods.
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Another thought; I've had setcpu for a while, but didn't find much use for it as the phone is already operating at 1GHZ, which is the max SetCPU will allow the phone to work.

Because there isn't a kernel that support OverClocking installed.Once you have an overclock-compatible kernel installed SetCPU can raise the CPU speed.

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Because there isn't a kernel that support OverClocking installed.Once you have an overclock-compatible kernel installed SetCPU can raise the CPU speed.
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I see. Thanks for the info

Also, while tegrak may work I strongly recommend a custom kernel for added stability, along with overclock capabilities up to 1.4ghz (depending on if your phone can handle it) undervolting and other useful features.

Each phone is different. Some phones can handle 1.4ghz, others can't even handle 1.2ghz. You just have to test it out and see what your phone can handle.

063_XOBX said:
Also, while tegrak may work I strongly recommend a custom kernel for added stability, along with overclock capabilities up to 1.4ghz (depending on if your phone can handle it) undervolting and other useful features.
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Any recommendations for a custom kernel?

qbking77 said:
Each phone is different. Some phones can handle 1.4ghz, others can't even handle 1.2ghz. You just have to test it out and see what your phone can handle.
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It seemed to hand 1.3 just fine, but I still backed it down to 1.0 until I get the custom kernel for it.

Grimace78 said:
Any recommendations for a custom kernel?
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I personally use Twilite Zone.

063_XOBX said:
I personally use Twilite Zone.
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Got a link? I looked but couldn't find it.

Grimace78 said:
Got a link? I looked but couldn't find it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976197&highlight=twilight+zone

qbking77 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=976197&highlight=twilight+zone
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Thank you

After reading the link to Twilite, I am interested in running the SyndicateROM Frozen. Any chance someone could walk me through the steps? I'm not being lazy and am doing research, just want to make sure I don't screw up my phone. I am at work right now, so I haven't even attempted to get Twilite yet. Perhaps getting the new rom would accomplish two things at once??
Edit: After some reading I think I will be ok, but if anyone wants to chime in then feel free.

Grimace78 said:
After reading the link to Twilite, I am interested in running the SyndicateROM Frozen. Any chance someone could walk me through the steps? I'm not being lazy and am doing research, just want to make sure I don't screw up my phone. I am at work right now, so I haven't even attempted to get Twilite yet. Perhaps getting the new rom would accomplish two things at once??
Edit: After some reading I think I will be ok, but if anyone wants to chime in then feel free.
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Here you go man! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy2Et6qVGdo
I made this video and it should help you out. The twilight kernel comes with the syndicate rom so you don't need to flash it since it already comes with the rom.

Is there any truth to a post I read stating some kernels support Wifi Tether and others don't?
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[Q] Kernel for Revolution HD 14.1

I know there might already be an answer to my question but if been searching for 2 hrs and can't find it.
Can anyone point me to a Kernel which can be used with the ROM in the title?

Gaffiero88 said:
I know there might already be an answer to my question but if been searching for 2 hrs and can't find it.
Can anyone point me to a Kernel which can be used with the ROM in the title?
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you can use only the stock one, cause the JB kernel's source code hasn't been released yet....

matt95 said:
you can use only the stock one, cause the JB kernel's source code hasn't been released yet....
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Ahh that explains everything, thanks

So why is my CPU running at 1.3 Ghz not 1.5Ghz since I flashed this rom?

Gaffiero88 said:
So why is my CPU running at 1.3 Ghz not 1.5Ghz since I flashed this rom?
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mike could have tweaked the stock kernel...

matt95 said:
mike could have tweaked the stock kernel...
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Wouldn't that be listed in Rom details?
I just want to know if my phone is running as it should or not

I have found what was wrong, it was the battery saver app under-clocking the CPU .
Just some info in case anyone else has/had the same question

Gaffiero88 said:
I have found what was wrong, it was the battery saver app under-clocking the CPU .
Just some info in case anyone else has/had the same question
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in fact that sounded pretty strange to me....

Yeah sounded strange to me too but I didn't know there was a battery saver app by default

Gaffiero88 said:
Yeah sounded strange to me too but I didn't know there was a battery saver app by default
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HTC's ****

i actually find the power saving feature more power consuming(aside from brightness and vibration), i think it causes all processors to start up at lower frequency rather than 1 cpu at high frequency.

Vcek said:
i actually find the power saving feature more power consuming(aside from brightness and vibration), i think it causes all processors to start up at lower frequency rather than 1 cpu at high frequency.
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Yes I did notice that too, in fact I'm not using it anymore, I just do everything manually instead.

I've got another question about this rom, is it normal that the wallpaper isn't scrolling when I scroll through the home screens?

[Q] Huge FPS drops in games

I searched the forum and saw some people had similar issues but nothing in the other threads seems to have fixed their issue.
I am having huge FPS drops in games after about 5 minutes of play time. I never had this problem when I was on stock, and ever since I have tried a few different ROMs and all of them have the same result. I found that if I turn my screen off for ~30 seconds the lag will go away for about 2 minutes but just comes right back.
Currently running SOKP ROM.
Games that I play are Valkyrie Crusade, The Gate, Heroes of Camelot.
Any help would be appreciated!

Ok, so the issue seems to only be present while charging. Does anyone have any suggestion on how to alleviate this issue without unplugging my phone from the charger? My battery does not last as long as it used to and I can only play for about a half hour before my phone battery starts to get extremely low.

Does your Rom allow for Changing of Governors and Voltages ? If so, then try Trickster Mod. If it does not allow such changes then switch to a AOSP Rom and then Flash KT747 Kernel by @ktoonsez. that kernel has profiles specifically tailored for Gaming.
That kernel was not compatible with AOKP Roms until Recently. I do not use AOKP Roms so I am not sure if AOKP Code has changed to make it compatible.

Perseus71 said:
Does your Rom allow for Changing of Governors and Voltages ? If so, then try Trickster Mod. If it does not allow such changes then switch to a AOSP Rom and then Flash KT747 Kernel by @ktoonsez. that kernel has profiles specifically tailored for Gaming.
That kernel was not compatible with AOKP Roms until Recently. I do not use AOKP Roms so I am not sure if AOKP Code has changed to make it compatible.
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The app from the app store? I don't know anything about Trickster mod.

Yes its the App in Play Store. If you are not comfortable tweaking those parameters, then leave that alone.

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Yes its the App in Play Store. If you are not comfortable tweaking those parameters, then leave that alone.
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Any recommendations on settings then?

Explore the thread on Undervolting / Overclocking in my signature. Let me know if you are comfortable with making that kind of changes.

Perseus71 said:
Explore the thread on Undervolting / Overclocking in my signature. Let me know if you are comfortable with making that kind of changes.
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I checked it out but it seems pretty confusing.. still not sure what settings I should change. Why would it be different from stock rom though?

In that case, please use the App "Fast Reboot Pro". It also creates a shortcut on your homescreen that, when clicked, will improve performance.
You may also want to apply V6 Supercharger Mod by @zeppelinrox.

Perseus71 said:
In that case, please use the App "Fast Reboot Pro". It also creates a shortcut on your homescreen that, when clicked, will improve performance.
You may also want to apply V6 Supercharger Mod by @zeppelinrox.
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My ROM is 4.4.2. Do I still need to apply the Ultimatic Jar Patcher?

I have not kept up with the more recent developments on that thread. Search the thread or post the question on it.

If your battery is getting low that quickly and easily your best bet, imo, is to replace it. Aa they age and lose capacity they also lose the ability to run the hardware effectively. Youre probably seeing lag because it just isnt able to provide the stable voltage required to run the cpu/gpu at full throttle very long.
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I have not kept up with the more recent developments on that thread. Search the thread or post the question on it.
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I tried these modifications and I am still getting terrible FPS drops.

Your only other option is Fast Reboot Pro in lieu of Governor changes and Overclocking.

how to disable CPU cores

I want to know how to disable CPU cores to save power. It was possible on my nexus 5. but on my nexus 6p and now on my htc 10, I'm not sure if it's possible. I read that it's would need a kernel rewrite or something along those lines.
So does anyone know how to do this? I'm running latest LeeDroid ROM if that helps. thanks :good:

That's what I also wanted to know about the 10.
I had the mind before and there I could run with only one core, if not needed the other three cores. But if I needed power, the 4 cores are running.
It would be great, if there is an option in kernel settings to run all the cores only if they are really needed.
So the 10 is only a battery eater... Especially with sense roms I don't come through the day without charging.
On CM 14 or AOSP the battery is much more better, but with better core management it would be famous.

anyone got any info on this?

less cores doesn't mean better battery life, look at u11, "octa-core" and getting better battery life than 10 and anything else. it's een like if you have less cores, the cores which are online have to do all the work and might end up with locked max freq which will result in heat and more drain. so just keep the core control like it is and maybe just underclock

drago10029 said:
I want to know how to disable CPU cores to save power. It was possible on my nexus 5. but on my nexus 6p and now on my htc 10, I'm not sure if it's possible. I read that it's would need a kernel rewrite or something along those lines.
So does anyone know how to do this? I'm running latest LeeDroid ROM if that helps. thanks :good:
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It is possible to disable cores with the custom kernel, and I believe force them to remain off at boot, but the HTC 10 uses a big/little cluster CPU setup and disabling cores isn't how you want to conserve power in my humble opinion.
The HTC 10 and some other modern devices uses BIG.little core ARM processor technology.
So the hardware and software is optimized to use all the cores to chase the best battery life and performance. I'm guessing that unless it's very specific usage scenarios, if you manage to force disable the cores with a custom kernel, you'll see both performance and battery life drop.
I would highly recommend installing a custom kernel, and tweaking the kernel settings while letting the hardware make full use of the BIG.little cluster system for efficiency. For high performance, I'd recommend one of the sense based kernel's that uses the HTC PnP Manager system. Something like Flar's ElementalX or TBalden's cleanslate kernel.
For battery efficiency, since you're really wanting to customize things for the best efficiency and battery life, try out the Helix kernel, by zeroinfinity. It's using a technology to optimize control of the processor based on "EAS" technology. EAS stands for "Energy Aware Scheduling" and zeroinfinity has written his "Helix Engine" to control the power profiles and thus power consumption of different apps, and you can customize the profiles to put any other apps you have in the profiles you want them.
This was a very basic and non technical summary, you can find tons of info on the kernels in the OP of each kernel thread. I would recommend making a backup with TWRP and trying both ElementalX and Helix kernels and seeing what works best in your usage scenario, before you start trying to force disable cores.
Here's a quick article I found on google, I'm at work and only briefly skimmed it, so no promises it's any good, but you can google BIG.little procs on Android mobile devices to find more imformation. https://community.arm.com/processors/b/blog/posts/ten-things-to-know-about-big-little

CharliesTheMan said:
It is possible to disable cores with the custom kernel, and I believe force them to remain off at boot, but the HTC 10 uses a big/little cluster CPU setup and disabling cores isn't how you want to conserve power in my humble opinion.
The HTC 10 and some other modern devices uses BIG.little core ARM processor technology.
So the hardware and software is optimized to use all the cores to chase the best battery life and performance. I'm guessing that unless it's very specific usage scenarios, if you manage to force disable the cores with a custom kernel, you'll see both performance and battery life drop.
I would highly recommend installing a custom kernel, and tweaking the kernel settings while letting the hardware make full use of the BIG.little cluster system for efficiency. For high performance, I'd recommend one of the sense based kernel's that uses the HTC PnP Manager system. Something like Flar's ElementalX or TBalden's cleanslate kernel.
For battery efficiency, since you're really wanting to customize things for the best efficiency and battery life, try out the Helix kernel, by zeroinfinity. It's using a technology to optimize control of the processor based on "EAS" technology. EAS stands for "Energy Aware Scheduling" and zeroinfinity has written his "Helix Engine" to control the power profiles and thus power consumption of different apps, and you can customize the profiles to put any other apps you have in the profiles you want them.
This was a very basic and non technical summary, you can find tons of info on the kernels in the OP of each kernel thread. I would recommend making a backup with TWRP and trying both ElementalX and Helix kernels and seeing what works best in your usage scenario, before you start trying to force disable cores.
Here's a quick article I found on google, I'm at work and only briefly skimmed it, so no promises it's any good, but you can google BIG.little procs on Android mobile devices to find more imformation. https://community.arm.com/processors/b/blog/posts/ten-things-to-know-about-big-little
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was a good read, thanks! based on the quote from below from that website sounds like the little cores can drive the most battery savings the most .... which is my goal.
The LITTLE cores can be implemented to target lower leakage and a more moderate performance point, independently from the physical implementation of the big cores that are often tuned for higher frequency.
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and seeing that you were a tester for helix htc 10 kernel, is it designed to with stock based ROM or just any magisk based ROMs? I did see that ASOP is not supported.

drago10029 said:
was a good read, thanks! based on the quote from below from that website sounds like the little cores can drive the most battery savings the most .... which is my goal.
and seeing that you were a tester for helix htc 10 kernel, is it designed to with stock based ROM or just any magisk based ROMs? I did see that ASOP is not supported.
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Stock based sense roms. I just use it with regular rooted builds of leedroid or viper. It works with magisk and has been built to be fully compatible, however I use it for my normal modded system rooted sense based rom with supersu. I don't use or set up magisk, I'm still kind of old school.
But if you were to use magisk, @ZeroInfinity is running magisk as his daily since the last several builds, and I don't believe it's got any bugs or anything that doesn't work in the magisk build. One of the other team members @p50kombi knows a lot about magisk if you need to know anything further, I just have very limited magisk knowledge I'm general.
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CharliesTheMan said:
Stock based sense roms. I just use it with regular rooted builds of leedroid or viper. It works with magisk and has been built to be fully compatible, however I use it for my normal modded system rooted sense based rom with supersu. I don't use or set up magisk, I'm still kind of old school.
But if you were to use magisk, @ZeroInfinity is running magisk as his daily since the last several builds, and I don't believe it's got any bugs or anything that doesn't work in the magisk build. One of the other team members @p50kombi knows a lot about magisk if you need to know anything further, I just have very limited magisk knowledge I'm general.
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magisk version works same as the version which writes to system

CharliesTheMan said:
Stock based sense roms. I just use it with regular rooted builds of leedroid or viper. It works with magisk and has been built to be fully compatible, however I use it for my normal modded system rooted sense based rom with supersu. I don't use or set up magisk, I'm still kind of old school.
But if you were to use magisk, @ZeroInfinity is running magisk as his daily since the last several builds, and I don't believe it's got any bugs or anything that doesn't work in the magisk build. One of the other team members @p50kombi knows a lot about magisk if you need to know anything further, I just have very limited magisk knowledge I'm general.
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Great I also use supersu not magisk, probably same old school thing...also too tough getting things to play nice with magisk IMO. So for supersu do i just install v012 r1 systemless kernel and it should just work w/ leedoird? did you notice any functions on lee droid not working?
also do you underclock? recommend any kernel managers?

drago10029 said:
Great I also use supersu not magisk, probably same old school thing...also too tough getting things to play nice with magisk IMO. So for supersu do i just install v012 r1 systemless kernel and it should just work w/ leedoird? did you notice any functions on lee droid not working?
also do you underclock? recommend any kernel managers?
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It's version 17, you'll download it from this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73068312&postcount=1216 , sorry that link you had shouldn't be there, but systemless is the magisk version but now there's only one version, and the Aroma installer will let you choose the normal non-magisk version.
In the installer, there's a question that asks about installing custom scripts, I use the @ZeroInfinity script, the one from @roger81 and @TotallyAnxious are good too so you can't really go wrong, but I recommend starting with zero's, and you can reflash to experiment once you get going good with it. Rogers is great for battery life but his is a little more custom and extreme, which is why I'd start.
I use EXKM kernel manager, but I really recommend not changing many settings at first. Definitely leave the governor default with this kernel. I would run it like it comes out of the box, and see how your apps and battery life goes, and if you have apps causing a lot of drainage, maybe add them to the helix engine profiles before you start changing clock speeds.
You'll notice with EXKM the core frequencies reported in real time will look different from how it looks with a stock based kernel, but don't let that scare you.
My only other recommendation is if you use any other power saving apps like greenify or doze (I don't use any of them personally but some do) I would first get used to the kernel without them, so you kind of have a better idea of baseline.

CharliesTheMan said:
It's version 17, you'll download it from this post https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73068312&postcount=1216 , sorry that link you had shouldn't be there, but systemless is the magisk version but now there's only one version, and the Aroma installer will let you choose the normal non-magisk version.
In the installer, there's a question that asks about installing custom scripts, I use the @ZeroInfinity script, the one from @roger81 and @TotallyAnxious are good too so you can't really go wrong, but I recommend starting with zero's, and you can reflash to experiment once you get going good with it. Rogers is great for battery life but his is a little more custom and extreme, which is why I'd start.
I use EXKM kernel manager, but I really recommend not changing many settings at first. Definitely leave the governor default with this kernel. I would run it like it comes out of the box, and see how your apps and battery life goes, and if you have apps causing a lot of drainage, maybe add them to the helix engine profiles before you start changing clock speeds.
You'll notice with EXKM the core frequencies reported in real time will look different from how it looks with a stock based kernel, but don't let that scare you.
My only other recommendation is if you use any other power saving apps like greenify or doze (I don't use any of them personally but some do) I would first get used to the kernel without them, so you kind of have a better idea of baseline.
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Bonus points for being the least confusing AROMA installer I have used! and I used zero's as well. thanks for all your help! and one last thing.. isn't doze built into android nougat? or am I highly misinformed.

drago10029 said:
Bonus points for being the least confusing AROMA installer I have used! and I used zero's as well. thanks for all your help! and one last thing.. isn't doze built into android nougat? or am I highly misinformed.
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It is you're correct, but there's a lot of "super doze" and dozingest doze around" sort of mods and tweaks people use, it's the extra modified stuff I would avoid for now, until baseline is established. However once you get things ironed out, @RogerF81 (if I spelled that Right) has tons of good info on further tweaking. He once tweaked his battery life to something like 7 or 8 hours screen on time with the Helix EAS kernel. That's just showing off.
Glad you like the Aroma installer, it nearly killed the poor dev trying to get it set up when he first started implementing it, he still probably throws keyboards if I ask for a black theme lol.
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Calibrate screen colors?

I usually would use Kernel Adiutor, but it doesn't show the Display section on whyred. Any suggestions?

oroboros74 said:
I usually would use Kernel Adiutor, but it doesn't show the Display section on whyred. Any suggestions?
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you need KCAL support stock kernel doesnt have kcal drivers. you need custom kernel that supports kcal.. example insigniux or kirks kernel.

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you need KCAL support stock kernel doesnt have kcal drivers. you need custom kernel that supports kcal.. example insigniux or kirks kernel.
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Which would you prefer, or would you just stick to stock? Do you also feel the colors to be a little subdued?

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Which would you prefer, or would you just stick to stock? Do you also feel the colors to be a little subdued?
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kirks has OC adn UC but hasnt been update in a month..
am using insigniux similar to stock but has kcal and schedunt governor.. no i never use stock kernel thats the reason i unlocked bootloader..
yes colors are subdue. i use saturate and add 3 points value.

raptorddd said:
kirks has OC adn UC but hasnt been update in a month..
am using insigniux similar to stock but has kcal and schedunt governor.. no i never use stock kernel thats the reason i unlocked bootloader..
yes colors are subdue. i use saturate and add 3 points value.
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So the thing is - I know nothing about kernels! Have never flashed them, don't really know what they do, so I've always kept stock. Any ideas where to begin to understand more about them (besides digging through the forums)?
I see Blackbox and Kirks cited a lot. How would those compare to Insigniux?
Also, I'm on stock Global MIUI (rooted of course), and want to stay on that for a while, but later am planning to go to LOS (or maybe another custom ROM). Would I need to change kernel in that case?
Thanks for your help, btw!

oroboros74 said:
So the thing is - I know nothing about kernels! Have never flashed them, don't really know what they do, so I've always kept stock. Any ideas where to begin to understand more about them (besides digging through the forums)?
I see Blackbox and Kirks cited a lot. How would those compare to Insigniux?
Also, I'm on stock Global MIUI (rooted of course), and want to stay on that for a while, but later am planning to go to LOS (or maybe another custom ROM). Would I need to change kernel in that case?
Thanks for your help, btw!
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they are all different.. i first flashed balckbox but didnt have many extra options seemed like a stock kernel.. then kirks had more options and i just started using insigniux.. many have claimed that it gives better battery life and its fast..
you can change many things in kernel.. if you want more battery then theres options to make go easy battery but will suffer from performance and speed. then theres ways to gain a bit of battery and keep performance.. and of course performance...
like change governors.. this will change cpu frequencies some are more tamed other agressive.. ect.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/guide-android-governors-explained-t2017715
https://ilmvfx.wordpress.com/2015/0...cpu-governors-and-io-schedulers-by-gsstudios/

raptorddd said:
they are all different.. i first flashed balckbox but didnt have many extra options seemed like a stock kernel.. then kirks had more options and i just started using insigniux.. many have claimed that it gives better battery life and its fast..
you can change many things in kernel.. if you want more battery then theres options to make go easy battery but will suffer from performance and speed. then theres ways to gain a bit of battery and keep performance.. and of course performance...
like change governors.. this will change cpu frequencies some are more tamed other agressive.. ect.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/guide-android-governors-explained-t2017715
https://ilmvfx.wordpress.com/2015/0...cpu-governors-and-io-schedulers-by-gsstudios/
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Thanks for that info! I'll definitely look at those links!

oroboros74 said:
Thanks for that info! I'll definitely look at those links!
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your wlcome just read... and if you have any question about it just ask.. i recommend using from playstore kernel adituor app to adjust kernel settings.