Down Grade 4.3 to 4.1.2 Bell Help - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II

Is it possible to down grade Bell 4.3 to 4.1.2 and it to be totally stock. I have tried to Reflash several different fiels to downgrade but it won't do it. Is it possible to do or am I stuck with 4.3

You are stuck until the devs give us a way back. ..
The entire package can be downgraded.... But the bootloader can't..... Yet....g
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Stuck as am I with rogers.
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How do I check what boot loader I am on. I gave been flashing back and forth with no issues
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I believe u can just enter download mode ansd on the top left itll say bootloader model counter etc.
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Flashing is no problem...as we can flash any rom....kernel etc.
The trouble is the bootloader...and it's Knox enabled partition...
Once a flag is set...this partition is re-written and an efuse is blown...
The flag removes the ability to downgrade the bootloader ...as it now protects itself and the changes it made...
A real kick in the berries for us...and a huge bonus for Sammy...
So if your bootloader is flagged...the warranty is toast...
Until a really smart group of developers can figure out a fix...we can never revert to stock again....g
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With that said about the partition. Can we not just re-partition with odin?
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jester12345 said:
With that said about the partition. Can we not just re-partition with odin?
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No...
These changes are well below the standard PIT partition structure ....and are likely hard bound on the EMMC...
I've never seen such a malicious piece of code before...
It resists every known attempt to access the bootloader...
I'm working with a developer today in hopes that a bootloader downgrade patch will work...but I'm not gonna count my chickens just yet..
The corporate clowns at Sammy deserve a **** sandwich for this obvious attack on our right to choose Knox or not...
I was never given the chance to "not" take Knox for my device...and they provided no warning about the outcome if the OTA was taken...
Shame on them....g
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I wish u luck. And wish I could be more help.
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Please let us know
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wait wait so this means once we (rogers / bell) are on 4.3 we cannot downgrade to 4.1 to unlock?

anonapersons said:
wait wait so this means once we (rogers / bell) are on 4.3 we cannot downgrade to 4.1 to unlock?
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So far
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anonapersons said:
wait wait so this means once we (rogers / bell) are on 4.3 we cannot downgrade to 4.1 to unlock?
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Seems to be no way to change bootloader
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jester12345 said:
So far
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Seems to be no way to change bootloader
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ahhh thanks! i just came from ios and not this nightmare again =/

Ya this is new to android just recently. Ugh
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say i have a bell or rogers i317m and its on 4.3, all i want is to enable to aws frequency for wind mobile, would i still need to downgrade to 4.1 to do that? im not sure if the aws enabling thing requires 4.1, just the unlock?

Im running the MJ4 leak from a few weeks back. Works fine. for those wondering why air command and all those goodies weren't included, you have to buy the note 3 to get them. Good thing our devs ported them. BTW the MJ4 leak is completely downgradeable to 4.1.1 LJ2

How can I flah a bootloader for my i317m from an att bootloader. If I do that and it dont show my knox I can send my phone in and they will cover a repair. I did that with my infuse by accident and dint remember how
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Knox flagged and upgrading

Just a question. Does anyone think that if you trip you flag on knox would it stop u from getting future updates? Example say i317m gets 4.4 u think itll stop me from updating?
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I'm gonna say yes...
We need a way to downgrade the bootloader....
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[Q] New Phone/Root?

Hi, I just switched from Sprint GS3 to T-Mobile GS4.
I was rooted on the GS3 using MOAR. My new GS4 has not yet received the 4.3 update. Should I go ahead and root now or wait until it receives the update.?
Also what are the most popular ROM's available?
Thanks, Randy
Do not accept the update. 4.3 has an evil Knox ridden bootloader.
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Root with chain fire autoroot.
Then update to the mk2 modem this way, but not the boot loader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544612
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Wicked 9.1. Infamous. Cyanogen:
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Android_Monsters said:
Wicked 9.1. Infamous. Cyanogen:
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That's the one I was thinking about.
I haven't accepted the 4.3 update because of the Knox. I went through this with the Sprint GS3.
I'm assuming I Odin the Twrp recovery and do the standard re-boot in download mode to flash the new ROM?
I'm in Hawaii so I'm still awake
Thanks everyone
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Do not accept the update. 4.3 has an evil Knox ridden bootloader.
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Root with chain fire autoroot.
Then update to the mk2 modem this way, but not the boot loader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2544612
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Can I just ODIN the TWRP recovery? I'm more familiar with that method.
I lived in Hawaii before. Aloha. This is the way I would do it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294005
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Android_Monsters said:
I lived in Hawaii before. Aloha. This is the way I would do it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294005
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Thanks for the help. All done with the root, used goo manager to flash TWRP, doing a backup and will then flash a ROM
Piece of cake

Rooting 4.3.3?

Has anyone found a way to root 4.3.3 for the AT&T Galaxy S3? I see there is a way for the Verizon model but can't find anything for AT&T...
It's 4.3, not 4.3.3. Look in the General Section.
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CF-Auto-Root worked for me.
Do you have any warranty on your phone? If you do, rooting may trip the knox counter and void the warranty.
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Has anyone found a way to root 4.3.3 for the AT&T Galaxy S3? I see there is a way for the Verizon model but can't find anything for AT&T...
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We get it. You are very helpful
Cf-autoroot will root your phone but Knox will disable the installing of supersu. So just download it from market and open it. This will prompt you to disable Knox and then you will be rooted
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shortydoggg said:
It's 4.3, not 4.3.3. Look in the General Section.
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Sorry meant to quote that guy
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Sim unlock s3 on 4.3

Ok. So I tried to sim unlock s3 on t mobile . T mo gave me code. Put in old cetennial then an old att sim and says unlock unsuccesful. Theysent another phone and new code. Same problem. Anychance phone needs an active sim for unlock code to work? Tired of readi g andsearchi g to no avail.
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sim lock 4.3
You only have two options... Option 1, You wait until kikkat 4.4 become available for upgrade then unlock the phone with same code. Or option 2, you find the stock rom that came with the the phone which is the ice cream 4.04. Then use odin to downgrade and then you can use the same code.
From all my reading. I was under impression you cant down grade with odin?
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mike102871 said:
From all my reading. I was under impression you cant down grade with odin?
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You can't if your device has the official 4.3 update, like ota or if it was done through kies or Odin
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So you think maybe code is correct and4.3 ota broke ability to unlock by code?
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mike102871 said:
So you think maybe code is correct and4.3 ota broke ability to unlock by code?
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Its possible it could've been broken by mistake, some people have had the same issues with Samsung devices on 4.3, try the new 4.3 update and see if it helps
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Stilk no go with the latest update
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Quick Q about Mobile Odin

Does anyone know what does this Means and why is it coming out? (attached image bellow---reactivation lock)cause i remember i clicked yes to doenload some extra files need before this screen. so i clicked EXIT for this screen until i know what it is for and if safe to do so.
dpes this means thatmy phone is gonna be relocked to the network? or something like it?
i have a Tmo US rooted with twrp recovery but i want to change my recovery soooooooo bad to a better one. cause its giving me trouble
ok so i have this files downloaded in the search for a custom recovery:
1. samsung-galaxy-s4-tmo-cwm-odin (zipped) ------> recovery-clockwork-6.0.4.4-jfltetmo.tar (inside Zip)
2. samsung-galaxy-s4-tmo-touch-cwm-odin (zipped) ------> recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.4.4-jfltetmo.tar (inside Zip)
3. OUDHS-Recovery-jfltetmo-1.0.3.3 (zipped) ------> recovery.img (inside Zip)
4. philz_touch_6.15.4-jfltetmo.tar.md5
5. philz_touch_6.08.9-jfltetmo.tar.md5
which one of this should i install through odin 3.07?
I use flashify to flash recoveries.. Its user friendy, simple, and free
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Are you just trying to download a new recovery via ODIN? If so, then you dont have to worry aboit that message.
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Are you just trying to download a new recovery via ODIN? If so, then you dont have to worry aboit that message.
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No actually I just installed this for the first time and I just want to know if it's OK if I click OK on this? Cause I just keep clicking exit until someone who knows tells me it's OK to click it or that nothing will go wrong.
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dr69 said:
No actually I just installed this for the first time and I just want to know if it's OK if I click OK on this? Cause I just keep clicking exit until someone who knows tells me it's OK to click it or that nothing will go wrong.
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Nothing will happen if you click OK. Just make sure to unlock your bootloader.
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Nothing will happen if you click OK. Just make sure to unlock your bootloader.
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I have a T-Mobile US already rooted with two and busybox already installed so as far as I know my bootloader is not locked. So go I got back to mobile Odin, do you know of any guide or manual to using it or any links I will appreciate it bro. Thanks in advanced
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What version of ODIN?
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It's Mobile Odin Pro v4.10
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I didnt even know they updated lol.
I forgot you were using Mobile odin...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899
Sorry aboit that
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Kriptik210 said:
I didnt even know they updated lol.
This link should be good...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/help/guide-odin-flash-guide-t1671969
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OK thanks for the link bro, but actually the version I told you about it the .apk file app for the mobile device, even though I appreciate the link cause now I'm gonna read it to learn some Odin for PC, but again do you know of any other guide for Mobile odin? And regarding my previous question, do you think I should click OK on mobile odin? Or you just don't know?
This is actually the mobile odin I'm talking about bro:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.mobileodin.pro
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Yes you can press OK. And I changed the link for you in my comment above for the mobile version. Mobile ODIN doesnt play well with the Gs4 so brush up on the PC skillz
Unless the new update to 4.10 fixes the issues it was having
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Kriptik210 said:
Yes you can press OK. And I changed the link for you in my comment above for the mobile version. Mobile ODIN doesnt play well with the Gs4 so brush up on the PC skillz
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For real? Oh crap so don't erase the link then let me have them both plc and thanks for all your help.
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dr69 said:
For real? Oh crap so don't erase the link then let me have them both plc and thanks for all your help.
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No problem. You should still have the link to the PC version when you quoted me before I changed it. If not, let me know and I'll PM it to you.
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No problem. You should still have the link to the PC version when you quoted me before I changed it. If not, let me know and I'll PM it to you.
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OK thanks I'll read both and get acquainted with them since i will be using them a lot. Also i was reading g the 1st post on the mobile odin post and the Tmo s4 is listed as a supported devices, so you said it is not or did you have a bad experience?
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Its supported but there were some things that couldn't be flashed with mobile ODIN so you had to use PC. Nothing that would brick your phone or anything.
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Its supported but there were some things that couldn't be flashed with mobile ODIN so you had to use PC. Nothing that would brick your phone or anything.
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Ok, but you sure cause I don't wanna brick my phone or anything like that?
Jjajajaja
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If you don't mind me asking, can you please read my first post regarding recoveries for the s4 and give me your honest opinion? cause tarp is puss g me off.
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You wont brick your phone by pressing OK lol. After you start using ODIN is on you. Just read the guides and make sure you do things the right way so you dont brick your phone. If you want to try out an awesome ROM, try Insane KitKat. It's a great ROM
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dr69 said:
If you don't mind me asking, can you please read my first post regarding recoveries for the s4 and give me your honest opinion? cause tarp is puss g me off.
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What problems are you having with TWRP?
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You wont brick your phone by pressing OK lol. After you start using ODIN is on you. Just read the guides and make sure you do things the right way so you dont brick your phone. If you want to try out an awesome ROM, try Insane KitKat. It's a great ROM
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Great thanks, I will read the guides but that would be tomorrow cause I'm falling asleep. And in regards to the ROM I will give it a try once I have everything figured out, now for the exposed thingy when I do a search for it to download it... should I search for "exposed" itself? Is that the app or is that the extra setting/add-ons?
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dr69 said:
Great thanks, I will read the guides but that would be tomorrow cause I'm falling asleep. And in regards to the ROM I will give it a try once I have everything figured out, now for the exposed thingy when I do a search for it to download it... should I search for "exposed" itself? Is that the app or is that the extra setting/add-ons?
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Are you referring to "Xposed"? And as for a custom recovery, TWRP would be my choice.
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