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Hey there!
So here's my situation: I recently got rid of a Rogers cellphone plan and decided to sell my GS3. Someone I know, immediately showed interest and decided to buy it from me. Good! At that moment, the device was locked to Rogers and was running stock Samsung GS3 (SGH-i747M) firmware.
That person decided to play with the phone, try to root it, flash Cyanogenmod or whatever it may be, and having failed several times, he decided to return the phone and get his money back. I shouldn't have accepted to reimburse him knowing how much he fiddled with it but I did.
Anyways too late now. The good thing is that I believe the phone is 100% functional (it boots, runs perfect and under system info shows everything as usual except under Status > Device Status, it shows modified.
I am not 100% sure of that what means but I believe it has something to do with a modified ROM or something like that.
That person supposedly unlocked the device because he was with another carrier.
Now I am putting the phone in the classifieds. Obviously I would like to have the phone back to 100% factory settings and ROM, no aftermarket stuff whatsoever BUT I'd like to keep it unlocked (if that's possible).
That way, it will be easier to resell.
So here's my questions:
What does "Device Status: Modified" really means?
How can I find out if the phone has been altered in any ways?
If it has been altered, is there a LINUX based procedure to restore EVERYTHING back to factory?
If I restore whatever has to be restored, will it re-lock the device?
As you can see, I am a total noob in that field. I would appreciate if someone can help me to prepare this device to be resold.
I don't want to cause any problems to anyone, that wouldn't be fair.
I appreciate. Thanks!!!
Okay a lot of questions, you can download the stock firmware from Samsung updates and if it is rooted you can get triangle away on the play store and reset the counter the using kies or the Samsung galaxy s3 toolkit from mskip's to flash the original firmware, your phone should be unlocked as none of the procedures should/could reloj the simple card
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Okay a lot of questions, you can download the stock firmware from Samsung updates and if it is rooted you can get triangle away on the play store and reset the counter the using kies or the Samsung galaxy s3 toolkit from mskip's to flash the original firmware, your phone should be unlocked as none of the procedures should/could reloj the simple card
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Ok I have verified with an app called Root Checker Basic, and it said that the device wasn't rooted. I wonder if this is reliable.
I wiull check mskip's toolkit or Kies to restore the stock firmware.
What a pain..
Thanks jimchee for replying!!
Actually it's pretty easy but you can probably sell it just as easy if it's rooted and that way you can clear the counter, there is also a post in the Samsung sIII THREAD for AT&T that will walk you through restoring to stock, just make sure you download the file for your device the link is also in the att thread, if you have any trouble pm me and I can help, I am just a tinkerer but been doing it since my 1st original Motorola Droid
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Probably the easiest approach would be to look for the Samsung S3 V7.0 toolkit post. This is a flash (programming) tool. It would easily root your phone if it needs that. Then you can use the app referred to earlier to reset the phone to an "unmodified" status.
Then finally go to the Samsung updates site as suggested and flash the phone with a stock Rogers firmware. I'd recommend a 4.1.1. version. Probably your phone will still be unlocked at this point. But if not, the stock v 4.1.1. Rogers firmware will allow you to unlock it again from an onscreen menu (search for "S3 unlock code *#197328640#"). And your phone will report an unmodified status at the end.
mrwhite0732 said:
Hey there!
So here's my situation: I recently got rid of a Rogers cellphone plan and decided to sell my GS3. Someone I know, immediately showed interest and decided to buy it from me. Good! At that moment, the device was locked to Rogers and was running stock Samsung GS3 (SGH-i747M) firmware.
That person decided to play with the phone, try to root it, flash Cyanogenmod or whatever it may be, and having failed several times, he decided to return the phone and get his money back. I shouldn't have accepted to reimburse him knowing how much he fiddled with it but I did.
Anyways too late now. The good thing is that I believe the phone is 100% functional (it boots, runs perfect and under system info shows everything as usual except under Status > Device Status, it shows modified.
I am not 100% sure of that what means but I believe it has something to do with a modified ROM or something like that.
That person supposedly unlocked the device because he was with another carrier.
Now I am putting the phone in the classifieds. Obviously I would like to have the phone back to 100% factory settings and ROM, no aftermarket stuff whatsoever BUT I'd like to keep it unlocked (if that's possible).
That way, it will be easier to resell.
So here's my questions:
What does "Device Status: Modified" really means?
How can I find out if the phone has been altered in any ways?
If it has been altered, is there a LINUX based procedure to restore EVERYTHING back to factory?
If I restore whatever has to be restored, will it re-lock the device?
As you can see, I am a total noob in that field. I would appreciate if someone can help me to prepare this device to be resold.
I don't want to cause any problems to anyone, that wouldn't be fair.
I appreciate. Thanks!!!
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Give this a shot.........works well. I've used it a number of times on both my phones ( SH-I747M/SH-I747 )
[ROM/RESTORE][AT&T/ROGERS/TELUS/BELL]Return to UNROOTED STOCK WITH FLASH COUNT RESET
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2363882
Once the phone is unlocked it will stay that way whether you go back to stock or not.
Hello all, hopefully this will help give some clarification for users, especially ones who have a newer SGS3, who are experiencing issues trying to flash certain ROM's and are getting errors due to assert/bootloader checks.
There is a specific part of a ROM .zip file called the updater-script which contains a security feature known as the assert lines. These parts of the script look for a bootloader match prior to flashing to ensure the ROM is compatible with the phone. This is used when there are multiple variants of one phone, such as the SGS3, which is available from Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, and some international variants. Flashing a ROM meant for a different carrier can have disastrous consequences, so developers include this bootloader check as a CYA measure. Here is where a lot of newer users are running into trouble and are choosing a "fix" which is incorrect. If your phone has MK3 (Sprint) or MK5 (Virgin Mobile/Boost) as the bootloader (not the modem, will address that later), then you have a bootloader which is not recognized for 4.3.x or earlier builds of CyanogenMod or custom ROM's based on AOSP. The CM 11 builds do recognize MK3, so will flash fine with no modification needed for rooted users. More importantly though, if MK3 or MK5 is your bootloader, then you have Knox as well, and Knox will fight any attempt to replace it with another bootloader, as in it will brick your phone badly. Therefore, MK3 and MK5 users who think their flash has failed because they need a different bootloader and then proceed to change their firmware, either with a "return to stock" .tar file via Odin or a flashable .zip designed to change the firmware have just inadvertently bricked their phone.
Here are some rules of thumb:
1. Know what is on your phone! Be aware of what bootloader you have, specifically you need to know if you have Knox or are Knox-free. If you are Knox-free, congratulations, if you have Knox, my condolences. In the Knoxed-up situation NEVER EVER try to push, via Odin a .tar file designed to "return to stock" if the bootloader associated with that file is MD4 or earlier (Sprint users) or MG2 or earlier (VM/Boost). Sprint users also have .zip files available designed to do the same thing, avoid these as well if you have Knox. Flashing a ROM with an earlier Android build is just fine, there is no bootloader included in a custom ROM based on AOSP, contrary to what some people are posting. You can "downgrade" to an earlier build of Android if you wish, you absolutely CANNOT downgrade your bootloader if you already have Knox on your phone.
2. If you get an "assert failed" message, you just need to modify or delete the asserts to match your bootloader, you do not need to change the bootloader itself. DO NOT assume that changing your bootloader is a fix for anything without knowing what you are doing first.
3. Modem does not equal bootloader. We use the same nomenclature (MD4, MK3, etc.), which can be confusing, but modems are interchangeable, and there are .zip files available so that you can easily flash from one to another. Additionally, anybody who has an SPH-L710 can use any modem designed for Sprint, VM, or Boost. A lot of Sprint users actually achieved great signal/data results with the MG2 modem from VM/Boost, and I have used MK3 modem just fine myself (I am on VM). ROM .zip files don't care about your modem, only your bootloader.
I hope this helps, I am seeing way too many users asking why they bricked their phones when this information would have helped them in advance had they not just forged ahead and assumed the bootloader was the problem. If anyone would like to know how to safely modify or delete the assert lines please let me know via posting or PM.
Useful information.
One item that could use some clarification is how to know whether a package includes a bootloader, and whether the assert line in the script will work with the Knox bootloader?
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Useful information.
One item that could use some clarification is how to know whether a package includes a bootloader, and whether the assert line in the script will work with the Knox bootloader?
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For the most part, as far as I know any custom ROM in the Original Android Development section, as well as anything AOSP based in the Android Development section will never contain a bootloader. The ROM's that do should be clearly (hopefully!) labeled as being "return to stock" (wording may vary), with the specific bootloader listed, and will almost always be a .tar file, not a .zip file. If it is a .zip, there should be some mention of "firmware" involved. This is not set in stone, just what I have seen in the various titles.
As to the assert lines, one of them just has to be an exact match for the bootloader designation, Knox or otherwise. If you have managed to install custom recovery and root post-Knox (it is possible, just can be a little bit of a headache), then Knox is a non-issue in terms of the assert lines and the bootloader check, the check is not looking for Knox, it is looking to see if any one of the several bootloaders listed in the asserts is present on the phone before proceeding.
using sprint stock rom on boost mobile s3
Mr. Struck said:
Hello all, hopefully this will help give some clarification for users, especially ones who have a newer SGS3, who are experiencing issues trying to flash certain ROM's and are getting errors due to assert/bootloader checks.
There is a specific part of a ROM .zip file called the updater-script which contains a security feature known as the assert lines. These parts of the script look for a bootloader match prior to flashing to ensure the ROM is compatible with the phone. This is used when there are multiple variants of one phone, such as the SGS3, which is available from Sprint, AT&T, T-Mobile, and some international variants. Flashing a ROM meant for a different carrier can have disastrous consequences, so developers include this bootloader check as a CYA measure. Here is where a lot of newer users are running into trouble and are choosing a "fix" which is incorrect. If your phone has MK3 (Sprint) or MK5 (Virgin Mobile/Boost) as the bootloader (not the modem, will address that later), then you have a bootloader which is not recognized for 4.3.x or earlier builds of CyanogenMod or custom ROM's based on AOSP. The CM 11 builds do recognize MK3, so will flash fine with no modification needed for rooted users. More importantly though, if MK3 or MK5 is your bootloader, then you have Knox as well, and Knox will fight any attempt to replace it with another bootloader, as in it will brick your phone badly. Therefore, MK3 and MK5 users who think their flash has failed because they need a different bootloader and then proceed to change their firmware, either with a "return to stock" .tar file via Odin or a flashable .zip designed to change the firmware have just inadvertently bricked their phone.
Here are some rules of thumb:
1. Know what is on your phone! Be aware of what bootloader you have, specifically you need to know if you have Knox or are Knox-free. If you are Knox-free, congratulations, if you have Knox, my condolences. In the Knoxed-up situation NEVER EVER try to push, via Odin a .tar file designed to "return to stock" if the bootloader associated with that file is MD4 or earlier (Sprint users) or MG2 or earlier (VM/Boost). Sprint users also have .zip files available designed to do the same thing, avoid these as well if you have Knox. Flashing a ROM with an earlier Android build is just fine, there is no bootloader included in a custom ROM based on AOSP, contrary to what some people are posting. You can "downgrade" to an earlier build of Android if you wish, you absolutely CANNOT downgrade your bootloader if you already have Knox on your phone.
2. If you get an "assert failed" message, you just need to modify or delete the asserts to match your bootloader, you do not need to change the bootloader itself. DO NOT assume that changing your bootloader is a fix for anything without knowing what you are doing first.
3. Modem does not equal bootloader. We use the same nomenclature (MD4, MK3, etc.), which can be confusing, but modems are interchangeable, and there are .zip files available so that you can easily flash from one to another. Additionally, anybody who has an SPH-L710 can use any modem designed for Sprint, VM, or Boost. A lot of Sprint users actually achieved great signal/data results with the MG2 modem from VM/Boost, and I have used MK3 modem just fine myself (I am on VM). ROM .zip files don't care about your modem, only your bootloader.
I hope this helps, I am seeing way too many users asking why they bricked their phones when this information would have helped them in advance had they not just forged ahead and assumed the bootloader was the problem. If anyone would like to know how to safely modify or delete the assert lines please let me know via posting or PM.
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Can i use a return to stock of Sprint S3 "L710VPUCMK3_L710SPRCMK3_L710VPUCMK3_HOME.tar" on a Boost mobile with bsaeband version L710VPUBMk5???
alemosman said:
Can i use a return to stock of Sprint S3 "L710VPUCMK3_L710SPRCMK3_L710VPUCMK3_HOME.tar" on a Boost mobile with bsaeband version L710VPUBMk5???
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No, you will want a return to stock tar meant specifically for Boost. There is one available on the Android Forums Boost subforum, give me a minute and I will get you a link.
Edit: Can't find the specific post right now, I would suggest going to the Boost subforum and starting a thread or contacting either @jdsingle76 or @wetbiker7 (they are both active here on XDA as well) as they are probably the two most knowledgeable Boost users of this phone that I know.
http://androidforums.com/boost-mobile-galaxy-s3-all-things-root/
Mr. Struck said:
No, you will want a return to stock tar meant specifically for Boost. There is one available on the Android Forums Boost subforum, give me a minute and I will get you a link.
Edit: Can't find the specific post right now, I would suggest going to the Boost subforum and starting a thread or contacting either @jdsingle76 or @wetbiker7 (they are both active here on XDA as well) as they are probably the two most knowledgeable Boost users of this phone that I know.
http://androidforums.com/boost-mobile-galaxy-s3-all-things-root/
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@Mr. Struck is right, MK3 is for the Sprint version of the S3. If you want to go back completely stock MK5, at this time, the only way I can think of to do that, is to Odin flash back to MG2, and then do OTA to get MK5. Two things here to remember, as Mr. Struck pointed out. First, DO NOT DO THIS if you have the Knox bootloader on your phone. Flashing back to 4.1.2 will hard brick your phone. Secondly, if you don't have the Knox, and flash back to MG2, and then OTA MK5, you WILL get the Knox bootloader. Your call...here's the link for MG2 tar. Good luck!
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23212708291678209
Hey guys...I hope you can help me out here. After days of searching this thread is the closest I've come to some clarification but I'm still a little confused.
My brother bought an AT&T i747 S3 (d2att) off of a coworker the other day. When I started to look through it I noticed it has SuperUser installed so I downloaded root checker and sure enough the guy that sold it had already rooted it. I thought to myself "great", mind you it was running 4.1.1. So in decided to throw some kitkat on it! Before doing that I thought it wise to update the recovery to the latest. So I went and found a "d2att philz touch cwm" and began the update process only to receive a status 7 error informing me that the package was for a d2att device (which I knew) and I was using a d2spr (which I'm not). So I went and downloaded the d2spr recovery and it updated allowing me to install a d2lte ROM. Everything works but I can not get an LTE signal at all.
My question is...is there anything I can do to make this work? My brother would love to have LTE connectivity but if we can't do anything we'll probably just sell it to a pawn shop. They probably won't know diddly squat.
Anyone still following this thread? I wanted to change roms from LiquidSmooth to MOAR 9.0.1. I have MD4 radio installed and have read that installing MK3 will put the dreaded KNOX bootloader lock on our phones? I thought this was just when we updated to 4.3? Thanks in advance
mcc23 said:
Anyone still following this thread? I wanted to change roms from LiquidSmooth to MOAR 9.0.1. I have MD4 radio installed and have read that installing MK3 will put the dreaded KNOX bootloader lock on our phones? I thought this was just when we updated to 4.3? Thanks in advance
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Part three of the OP: modem does not equal bootloader.
Bootloader, Modem and a new ROM (S4)
Mr. Struck said:
Here are some rules of thumb:
1. Know what is on your phone! Be aware of what bootloader you have, specifically you need to know if you have Knox or are Knox-free. If you are Knox-free, congratulations, if you have Knox, my condolences. In the Knoxed-up situation NEVER EVER try to push, via Odin a .tar file designed to "return to stock" if the bootloader associated with that file is MD4 or earlier (Sprint users) or MG2 or earlier (VM/Boost). Sprint users also have .zip files available designed to do the same thing, avoid these as well if you have Knox. Flashing a ROM with an earlier Android build is just fine, there is no bootloader included in a custom ROM based on AOSP, contrary to what some people are posting. You can "downgrade" to an earlier build of Android if you wish, you absolutely CANNOT downgrade your bootloader if you already have Knox on your phone.
2. If you get an "assert failed" message, you just need to modify or delete the asserts to match your bootloader, you do not need to change the bootloader itself. DO NOT assume that changing your bootloader is a fix for anything without knowing what you are doing first.
3. Modem does not equal bootloader. We use the same nomenclature (MD4, MK3, etc.), which can be confusing, but modems are interchangeable, and there are .zip files available so that you can easily flash from one to another. Additionally, anybody who has an SPH-L710 can use any modem designed for Sprint, VM, or Boost. A lot of Sprint users actually achieved great signal/data results with the MG2 modem from VM/Boost, and I have used MK3 modem just fine myself (I am on VM). ROM .zip files don't care about your modem, only your bootloader.
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I am glad to have found this post as I have been struggling with the decision to update my ROM from 4.3 (old bootloader and modem) to 4.4.2 on my S4 GT-i9505. With a lot of discussion about Knox I was very uncertain whether I could leave the BL and Modem as they were and merely update the ROM. I am pleased to say you can but now I am trying to understand the value of upgrading the BL +/- Modem as new Official products have been released. This thread is very useful but I thought I'd add a few more links to it in case others are also interested in this topic.
Here's a description of the purpose of the modem I found in one of the links below. I think it helps me see why you may want or need to update it at some stage: •Baseband/Radio/Modem - radio[version].img - Is the firmware for the separate cell modem and is responsible for your cell phone signal and on older devices may control wifi, bluetooth, and GPS (on most newer devices, these are handled by the kernel and ROM). Upgrades may improve or diminish battery performance, network signal strength, and roaming capability. It is also sometimes required to have a minimum Baseband version to use a ROM so that the RIL will play nice with the Baseband.
Here's a description of what a radio/modem is:
http://www.reddit.com/r/AndroidQuestions/comments/1wzmp7/what_are_all_the_different_pieces_of_android/
http://androidforums.com/galaxy-s2-international-all-things-root/588852-modems-dummies-guide.html
Here's a link to whether you need to upgrade your modem and how to do it on an S4:
http://galaxys4root.com/galaxy-s4-radiomodems/
http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/63870/omega-rom-4-4-bootloader-modem-problems
Here's a link to Official modems for S4s [i9505/i9000]: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48113546
Discussion of Knox with new BL can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46189882
I am still searching for why one would want to update their BL and/or modem if their existing ones are working fine? I am also trying to understand why some ROM update the BL (and modem?) as part of their install processes.
So if you have any links or thoughts about these issues, please post here or drop me a line.
Hello everyone, I decided to finally write for directions, because the more I read, the more confused I get.
I apologize in advance if I am in a wrong thread.
Although I spent already hundreds of hours of reading about rooting, flashing etc it is hard to find simple, specific answers regarding my device, partially due to vast number of ROM builds for different countries. I downloaded mskip Toolkit in April 2012, to root my GN2 I found it, at the time to be easiest, most comprehensive tool to use, and although I did it like a blind peson in a dark room, it worked. So after almost 9 months of having stock ROM, TWRP recovery and unable to get OTA updates
I wanted to experience new and different ROMs. I would love to check out CM or Phoenix ROM.
Firstly, I wanted to get stock ROM for my N7100, so I could flash it back to original, out of the box condition if I ever need to sell it. There are many good guides but these assume your county of residence as source of your ROM Here is my first obstacle which is my stock ROM?
I purchased my international GN2 on newegg.com and there are no ROMs for United States other than
for specific US carrier. I use Straight Talk, which runs on ATT network.
Then comparing (via *#1234#) my:
AP:N7100UBDMA3,
CP:N7100UBDMA1
CSC:N7100UUBDMA2
found somewhere that these are identical with 4.1.2 Argentinian ARO ROMs.
Purchased Triangle Away, getting ready for stock flash, but Triangle Away says "Status unknown", ODIN mode however reports 2 flashes. Why? Does it have to do with how phone was rooted? Using Toolkit?
Now Toolkit reports under "Device information
"country code: TTT" which is Trinidad and Tobago
Now I am completely confused.
Therefore I have many questions. Can I flash my N7100 with, let's say, US ATT SCH-l317 stock ROM
If not, which is correct stock ROM for above build numbers? When looking for a ROM which number is
most important one, to compare with? Baseband? Build number on the bottom of "About device page?
If I don't find exact builds, which one I should use the (closest one by build number, frequency).
Can i flush the most popular (or most developed) ROMs from let's say India, UK, or Poland? I am
completely lost. Thank you for any suggestions.
First try to use Kies to see what update it suggests, then take a look at http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/.
Compare and avoid an update which contains Knox, try to find a Knox-free stock rom here on XDA or even using Google.
Good Luck!
Edit: "Status unknown" is the normal message you get from triangle away, as far as I've experienced.
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First try to use Kies to see what update it suggests, then take a look at...
Compare and avoid an update which contains Knox, try to find a Knox-free stock rom here on XDA or even using Google.
Good Luck!
Edit: "Status unknown" is the normal message you get from triangle away, as far as I've experienced.
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Thank you! Awesome advice! Indeed Kies suggested TTT ROM, (which is Trinidad and Tobago, how weird is that).
So it seems that what should care about is last three characters of PDA ROM version, right?
I read about Knox just to know enough to avoid it. Thanks.
So now I am downloading 4.1.2 stock version of my ROM, after that Triangle away.... ODIN.... Reboot in download mode.... flash.... and I should have out-of-the-box phone, right?
Now, what about when I want to use Phoenix ROM or any other ROM for that matter, that was build on whatever ( for example XXUDMJ1 stock ROM from Israel let's say) can I use that? I doubt that I can find custom ROM based on my TTT stock. What then?
Various online tutorials, guides or Youtube videos, don't even mention checking original ROM. It just say.... download from "here" and flash.
What's that about?
Hello,
I just bought my first Galaxy device (had a CDMA LG for a while, and I have a Nexus Tablet), and I am looking at how to get this new phone set up right. I bought my i747 retail, so I was unable to unlock it. However, now I'm struggling with finding the right method for upgrading, rooting, etc. I know nothing about knox or any of these Samsung intricacies. Could someone please give me a little guidance on how to go about getting to the OS and status that I'm looking for? This is what I've done so far:
Came unrooted with 4.1.2 stock rom
Unlocked using legit unlock code
Tried OTA updates, but none were available (must be because of unlock)
Rooted w/ ODIN using 4.1.1 file based of MrRobinson method. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1739426)
Now I keep getting popups like process. ... .acore,media, etc. stopped.
I'm looking to ideally get a custom recovery (either CWM or TWRP, whichever is better) and either kitkat Touchwiz or possibly kitkat nexus stock (I read somewhere that it was possible). Also, i just bought it, and have the code still, so I don't mind deleting everything if needed. Regardless, I'd like the ability to get it back to pure stock with no flash counter (I have a manufacturer's warranty I want to use if need be).
Could someone please just give me a little guidance? I'm pretty capable with rooting, etc., so you'd only need to lead me to other threads, etc. that will take me where I want to go. Thank you very much.
Before flashing or doing anything else, confirm the bootloader on your phone. Download and install the Samsung Phone Info app from the playstore and post your bootloader.
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Before flashing or doing anything else, confirm the bootloader on your phone. Download and install the Samsung Phone Info app from the playstore and post your bootloader.
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Well, the bad news is I already flashed using MrRobinson's instructions, and now my phone is barely workable, as things like process.android.media and Touchwiz keep crashing. I was able to install the info app though, and my bootloader is listed as I747UCDLK3. Thanks again though, and let me know what else you need from me.
I recommend starting over by flashing the stock AT&T 4.1.1 firmware from sammobile. Once flashed, boot the phone and make sure your phone is sim unlocked. If it isn't sim unlocked, unlock it using the free method or your unlock code.
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SGH-I747/
After sim unlocking, run OTA updates until you have the latest stock AT&T ROM on your phone. Upgrading the phone's bootloader and modem is the easiest way to do it for someone that is new to the phone and custom ROMs.
audit13 said:
I recommend starting over by flashing the stock AT&T 4.1.1 firmware from sammobile. Once flashed, boot the phone and make sure your phone is sim unlocked. If it isn't sim unlocked, unlock it using the free method or your unlock code.
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SGH-I747/
After sim unlocking, run OTA updates until you have the latest stock AT&T ROM on your phone. Upgrading the phone's bootloader and modem is the easiest way to do it for someone that is new to the phone and custom ROMs.
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Thank you, but wouldn't OTA updates install Knox, which would basically void my warranty if I tried to flash anything after that? And, I've checked for OTA updates twice, once on 4.1.2 and on 4.1.1, and both times it said my software was up to date.
I spoke with StoneyJSG about my situation, and he suggested that I go to stock 4.1, root w/ saferoot, then flash a kitkat custom rom without Knox through TWRP. That way, I could use triangle away and flash stock unrooted if I needed to send it in.
Although, I'm not sure if I should do that, as I thought I read that you need to update the radio and bootloader first before you can install a custom kitkat rom from jelly bean, but I'm still not entirely sure how that works.
The most recent release of many custom ROMs will not work but you may not have a signal without an updated modem and you should not be running updated modems on an older bootloader. Doing this could brick your phone.
With a rooted system, OTA updates will not work.
Thank you again for helping walk me through the minutia around this phone.
I think I have a much better understanding of everything now. I read the following article on Knox (http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/) and with an understanding of that, I get now that there is no way to load any custom rom on 4.3 or higher without losing my warranty.
So, basically my options are to stay at 4.1 and flash whatever, using triangle away to erase my tracks. Or, I could update to 4.3, but only be able to use saferoot/towelroot, otherwise I'd trip the warranty void. But, if all I did use was towelroot (no custom recovery or rom), then I could just unroot the phone using the full unroot option in SuperSU and send it on in for service if needed, right?
Also, I did unroot my phone and did a factory reset, so it's back at 4.1.1 and unrooted. Yet, I still do not see any software updates available from Samsung. I even plugged it into Kies, and nothing (http://i.imgur.com/E0xPGpf.png). Does anyone know why this could be? Does it have something to do with my not having a carrier for the phone yet? I'm sorry for all the questions, but I do appreciate your help.
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Thank you again for helping walk me through the minutia around this phone.
I think I have a much better understanding of everything now. I read the following article on Knox (http://omegadroid.co/wanted-knox-void-warranty-0x1/) and with an understanding of that, I get now that there is no way to load any custom rom on 4.3 or higher without losing my warranty.
So, basically my options are to stay at 4.1 and flash whatever, using triangle away to erase my tracks. Or, I could update to 4.3, but only be able to use saferoot/towelroot, otherwise I'd trip the warranty void. But, if all I did use was towelroot (no custom recovery or rom), then I could just unroot the phone using the full unroot option in SuperSU and send it on in for service if needed, right?
Also, I did unroot my phone and did a factory reset, so it's back at 4.1.1 and unrooted. Yet, I still do not see any software updates available from Samsung. I even plugged it into Kies, and nothing (http://i.imgur.com/E0xPGpf.png). Does anyone know why this could be? Does it have something to do with my not having a carrier for the phone yet? I'm sorry for all the questions, but I do appreciate your help.
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What is your cell service? If not AT&T, you will never get OTA.
Whether you get OTA can vary from carrier to carrier and phone to phone in my opinion.
I have a Rogers HTC One X that gets OTA updates from HTC even though I am on the Bell network.
I have a Bell S3 that is running on the Rogers network and it receives OTA updates from Bell even though it has a Rogers sim card in the phone.
I have a Telus Moto G running on the Bell network and it received the Telus KK OTA update while connected to the Bell network.
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Whether you get OTA can vary from carrier to carrier and phone to phone in my opinion.
I have a Rogers HTC One X that gets OTA updates from HTC even though I am on the Bell network.
I have a Bell S3 that is running on the Rogers network and it receives OTA updates from Bell even though it has a Rogers sim card in the phone.
I have a Telus Moto G running on the Bell network and it received the Telus KK OTA update while connected to the Bell network.
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Well, I have an AT&T model which I unlocked and will be putting on Cricket at the end of the week (when my plan month is set to end). Right now there's no SIM in it, and I've been doing everything over wifi. I looked up whether the carrier had something to do with the OTAs, and I was told that Samsung sent the updates out, not AT&T, so I figured that the carrier info was irrelevant. I now wonder what my options are.
Can I manually flash 4.3 stock without tripping the knox warranty void?
Does Towelroot/Xposed framework trip the Knox void flag?
If I can update to 4.3/4.4 and root without tripping the knox flag, I might just manually update and just run towelroot and xposed to modify my OS the best I can until my warranty runs out.
If I can't root it at all once I'm on 4.3+, then I'll just sit on 4.1.1 for a few months until I can't stand it anymore and just void the warranty anyway.
Thanks again everyone. This whole knox/binary counter thing is not something I dealt with on my CDMA LG or Nexus, so I was totally in the dark about how it all worked. This is also my first GSM phone, so all those intricacies are new to me too. Once I know about manually flashing stock and running towelroot/xposed, I think I'll be in good shape.
Flashing the stock 4.3 ROM should not trip the counter as long as you do not need to install a custom recovery to flash it.
Apparently, the latest KK stock ROM cannot be rooted using Towelroot.
If you want a custom ROM, use one that will work with a 4.1.1 bootloader and modem. Once on 4.3 or higher, it's a little harder to recover from a soft brick.
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Flashing the stock 4.3 ROM should not trip the counter as long as you do not need to install a custom recovery to flash it.
Apparently, the latest KK stock ROM cannot be rooted using Towelroot.
If you want a custom ROM, use one that will work with a 4.1.1 bootloader and modem. Once on 4.3 or higher, it's a little harder to recover from a soft brick.
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Excellent. If I did flash stock, i would just use ODIN, then factory reset to wipe the caches. And that's good to know about the KK rom, as I would probably update straight to 4.4 if at all (I've read a lot of bad things about 4.3 on the S3), but not if it means I cannot root safely and cleanly.
I'll check out the custom roms for 4.1.1. I know that flashing the rom and/or a custom recovery will trip the binary counter, but I can just use triangle away to clean that up. Do you know if there is a list of custom 4.1.1/4.1.2 roms somewhere, or do I need to scour the older threads here?
Thank you very much audit13 (thanks to StoneyJSG and pre4speed as well). You have been immensely helpful and really brought me up to speed on everything surrounding S3 customization. Needless to say it's way more complicated than what I've dealt with from LG and Google/Asus. (I mean, i could root my nexus with a single click using Wugfresh's toolkit)
4.1.1 is the only complete stock ROM that AT&T released for flashing via Odin.
4.3 ROMS and higher were prepared by XDA members for flashing in either a custom recovery or Odin.
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4.1.1 is the only complete stock ROM that AT&T released for flashing via Odin.
4.3 ROMS and higher were prepared by XDA members for flashing in either a custom recovery or Odin.
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Oh, so what other way can you flash a stock rom, if not through ODIN or a custom recovery? Regardless, it seems as though I really should not dive into 4.3+ until I'm ready to concede that my warranty is over. There are just too many potential pitfalls and headaches.
On the lighter side, I've found a few 4.1.2 based custom roms that have some promise. I'm going to post them here in case anyone has opinions on them, or if someone else in my situation sees this thread and wants to go custom 4.1 too:
Hyperdrive RLS16
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2176793
Slim Bean-d2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1865262
Jedi Academy
http://www.teamandroid.com/2013/12/...oid-412-jedi-academy-jelly-bean-custom-rom/2/
Jelly ‘Beans’
http://www.teamandroid.com/2013/04/...ndroid-412-att-galaxy-s3-sgh-i747-custom-rom/
I was also torn when I got my s3 that was running 4.1.2. I downgraded to 4.1.1, sim unlocked the phone, used it on stock 4.1.2 for about a week to make sure everything was working, hardware wise, upgraded to stock 4.4.2, installed a custom recovery and a custom ROM. I wasn't too concerned about the warranty since I got the phone as a free upgrade and had no intention of using the s3 as my daily phone. I kept it as a backup until my niece needed and phone and then it went to her. It's been over a year and there are still no problems with the phone.
Hello guys,
For some reason, my phone shows that my SIM is locked ( I was on RR 6.0). I need to flash the 4.1.1 firmware for Koodo to unlock the SIM.
Can anyone send me a link for this firmware?
Thank you!
You don't need Koodo to unlock the sim. Just flash the stock LJ2 firmware with Odin and use the dialler menu to permanently network unlock the phone.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2014982
Maybe this will work: http://rapidgator.net/file/0207e341...yos.com/samsung-galaxy-note-2-stock-firmware/
I know it's been a long time, but did this procedure actually WORK? AFAIK, Koodo Note 2s never came with less than KitKat, and we all know that Samsung has blocked downgrading though its bootloader starting then.
The reason I ask is I'm looking for a spare phone for mine as a backup and can't seem to find one on which I can load my Jellybean 4.1.2 CM based phone image.
Well this an interesting post, I have a similar problem, I have 2 exact Note 2 phones one with custom firmware (4.1.1) one without, I would like to copy/clone the stock firmware to my other (as I somehow managed to delete the stock firmware on it)
Now I have made a backup with TWRP and copied it to the other phone but TWRP refuses to install it, it tries to install and gets most of the way but at the very end I get the 255 error "install failed"
Why can't I copy/ install this backup?
Do I need to to use some other recovery software or make a backup some other way.
Thanks
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I know it's been a long time, but did this procedure actually WORK? AFAIK, Koodo Note 2s never came with less than KitKat, and we all know that Samsung has blocked downgrading though its bootloader starting then.
The reason I ask is I'm looking for a spare phone for mine as a backup and can't seem to find one on which I can load my Jellybean 4.1.2 CM based phone image.
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The note 2 sgh-i317m was used by Telus, Rogers, and Bell.
This downgrade method works. I've used it to network unlock four note 2 models.
The stock 4.1.1 firmware from sammobile.com did not contain a bootloader file which allowed me to flash it using Odin on a phone running a stock 4.4.2 rom.
audit13 said:
The note 2 sgh-i317m was used by Telus, Rogers, and Bell.
This downgrade method works. I've used it to network unlock four note 2 models.
The stock 4.1.1 firmware from sammobile.com did not contain a bootloader file which allowed me to flash it using Odin on a phone running a stock 4.4.2 rom.
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Man, if this really works it's going to solve all my problems. Are you saying you can flash the 4.1.x ROM on top of the the 4.4.2 bootloader (presumably one could deselect the bootloader from the 4.1.x ROM if it was included - sorry I'm quite rusty at this, haven't used Odin in years), so that the phone may be running ICS or JB despite having a 4.4.2 encrypted (locked) bootloader?
The idea is being able to load Clockworkmod recovery and from it, the rooted 4.1.2 backup on my external sd card...
Sorry if it's been asked before and if I may be confused - Thing is, I haven't done this type of tweaking in 5 years
I could flash a stock 4.1.1 ROM from sammobile.com on top of a stock 4.4.2 ROM because the stock 4.1.1 ROM didn't contain a bootloader. I did this to use the menu method to network unlock the sgh-i317m; however, the phone cannot stay on a stock 4.1.1 ROM with a 4.4.2 bootloader because the phone cannot connect to a cellular network with this 4.1.1 ROM/4.4.2 bootloader combination. After I unlocked the phone, I either re-flashed a stock 4.4.2 ROM or a new custom ROM.
The bootloader on the Canadian Note 2 was never locked the way it was with some USA carriers.
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The bootloader on the Canadian Note 2 was never locked the way it was with some USA carriers.
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Are you saying the Koodo/Rogers.... 4.4.2 Note 2 bootloader is NOT locked on our phones, ergo, that I could downgrade to 4.1.1 including its bootloader successfully?! If so I'm set, I could purchase a used one on kijiji and simply reload my old Bell based ROM backup on it I simply look for a way to load my 5 year old Rooted ROM onto a newer version of the phone. I have on it apps that won't run on 4.4.2 that I sorely miss on my tablet (which runs 4.4.4)
The bootloader is not locked which allows for the installation of TWRP and cwm but it cannot be downgraded.
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The bootloader is not locked which allows for the installation of TWRP and cwm but it cannot be downgraded.
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In other words it does allow for installing the 4.1.1 ROM for unlocking the phone, but it can't can't actually be used with the 4.1.1 ROM... What if I simply reinstalled the 4.4.2 modem, wouldn't that work?
I now I'm asking quite a lot - but in my case if I haven't been able to find a used phone that hadn't been at some point 'upgraded' and consequently became shackled (I've been looking for over a year now) in which case I might as well mourn it and move on to a new phone and start the fight for freedom all over again Honestly, I've grown tired of having to fight for the basic right of ownership against the relentless push for slavery that is the general trend in technology, to force people away from freedom of using the software they prefer and force them into a system where they must follow the dictates of corporate giants so perfectly exemplified by the cell phone, computer and browser based service industry.
Like Frederick Douglass famously said "Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never had and never will"... In other words if you want freedom and true control, you MUST FIGHT the providers and the manufacturers whose prime interest is to keep you enslaved
Installing the 4.4.2 modem will install but the stock 4.1.1 dialer doesn't work with a 4.4.2 modem and 4.4.2 bootloader from what I recall. It's been a long time since I had a note 2.