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"Moister Damage" On The Tilt 2??

So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......

froggylover1345 said:
...... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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seems like sort of thing that could happen if moisture entered into your phone as that could cause electric shocks and considering the inner hardware and electrical components are very delicate even the slightest exposure to water vapors or moisture is a enough to damage them especially considering your scenario where you had no battery (and i am assuming you didn't have back cover either or you did?) but regardless as far as my understanding is this behavior seems in line with what you are thinking.

So no way to fix it.... I'm now phoneless. I'm so mad at myself right now....

I live in SWFL and unless you dropped the thing in a puddle I cant imagine the humidty down here doing that to your phone. Did you drop the thing in a puddle? The back cover is by no means air tight so I dont think NOT having a back cover did that too your phone.
Turn the phone on and plug it into your charger and see how long it stays on. There's a trick discussed here that talks about wrapping the phone up in paper towels and then putting it in a bowl of rice for 24 hours. That should suck any moisture you have in your phone out. Just do a search in the forum for "rice" or something.. I dont know.
Good Luck Though!!!

This is the thread you want to read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669472

i wouldn't think humidity would cause that much damage.
have you installed any recent app(s) that you might suspect causing these issues?

I thought the SAME THING. That's why I thought nothing of it! I just did a hard reset on it the night before so no apps installed. I did go on Android but, I do that about 1-2 times a week. Only reason I think it's moisture is because of the "white smoke" I saw thinking it was condensation. It wasn't really taken care of for a few hours because I was in disney. When I got to the hotel I put it in paper towels. The touchscreen works, and I can open apps on the menu but not use them. Wont let input through. No hardkeys work either. I'm gonna try a hard reset.

I WAS WRONG! I just did a hard reset, and it fixed the problem! Had to do it the button sequence way but it worked! The last thing I did on it, the night before was go on Android. Everything functioned well their and had no problems. What I'm guessing is I got a bad boot or something that stopped some drivers from working. I figured this out by trying to download mymobiler on the phone so I could do a hard reset and it wouldn't let me open it because it wasn't signed with a trusted certificate. Whew.... this is A HUGE RELIEF.

ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys

XERO_Racer said:
ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys
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I wouldnt think it would damnage the phone. Unless you actually submerge the unit or dump water on it it should be able to withstand the humidity. It's not like its in the moisture for hours and hours just a few minutes while you shower. Keep your fan running while you shower and that should help even more; although the fan should be on while you shower anyway AND for at least 5 minutes after you shower (little known fact) to protect the drywall and structure of the bathroom.

Humid place
Where I live some times in summer we have 98% of ambient humidity!
So it´s almost impossible to have anything dry here

froggylover1345 said:
So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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Just let it do some thorough drying out. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed but..after some thorough drying and TLC, it just started wrking again like nothing ever happened. I let my father have the Tilt cuz i had already had a replacement one sent to me. Just told them i lost it. cuz u say water, they like warranty voided..lol Still wrks to this day, its his new toy till he get that new EVO 4g for sprint. he got the tilt to work with a prepaid sim card. im like dayumm..he showing something new..lol

demandarin said:
. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed
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No pun intended right?

Attention defy users(water resistant thing)

I want to attention all the defy users about the water damage that can be done at our phone
I tested it today at a pool i even keeped the finger over the eapiece filme like 30 secons under water not even 1 meter deep and suprise when i tryed to call the person heard me but i heard just beep beep puk puk )
Anyway i was lucky enough to roll over it a dry towel and after a hour it was working normaly )
I think words are in vain i was scared as hell ) now i know that our defyes arent made to be used near watter
In one sentence DO NOT TRY THE WATTERPROFFNES OF THE DEFY YOU MIGHT BE DISSAPOINTED
Cheers

I took my phone to the pool for 45 minutes I was skipping it across the water, no problem.
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Some water in the earspeaker. Works fine after drying!
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I don't really wanna try to throw my Defy into any kind of liquid.
I know it's said to be waterproof, but seriously that little speaker doesn't look very robust to me... I know there are a lot of videos on youtube that show the defy in swimmingpools and stuff, but I'm not sure if that's so good for the device in the long run.
I just don't wanna ruin my 280 bucks device just for fun.
my 2 cents ^^

You guys all all right
Yes it did worked after drying
its a stupid thing anyway
Anyway now it works and thATS all it matters

Haha nice, first day I got it I dumped it into water work like a champ, got mine free through T-Mobile online promotion
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I put it inside a glass of water every night before going to sleep, because i can

My defy seemed to be pretty waterproof. as evidence

I forget where I read this but apparently, after using the Defy underwater or in water, you need to dry it out for at least 1 and 1/2 hours before using it normally.
I believe this is to ensure that the earpiece doesn't malfunction as it is the only part that isn't covered by anything water-proof, and for obvious reasons...

According to a review I recently read on Engadget, the battery door has a latch that one can sometimes lock improperly, thereby leaving a gap through which water can get in.

i wanna try it also.. but my concern is the mini usb port where we occasionally charge the phone, mine is i think loosen... is it mine only?
btw, it is water-resistant not waterproof..

The Defy is IP67 certified.
That means:
(1) No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact.
(2) Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (Test duration: 30 minutes, Immersion at depth of 1m).
So it is waterproof for 30 minutes to a depth of 1m / 3ft.
Also, since the 30 minute, 1 meter specification is based on pressure, then the phone can be taken deeper for shorter durations. For example, it can most likely withstand a depth of 10 feet for 5 minutes.

i don't know
I dip my defy in a glass of water every night when i go to sleep near to my bed.
In the mornig, when i wake up, i pull out the phone and i works perfectly.
Very water resistant!

well i check my lock every time i dont use it underwater anyway i wanted justnto test it and the test scared the crap out of me ) i think that this shoud be a sticky for all new defy users

agent__orange said:
...my concern is the mini usb port where we occasionally charge the phone, mine is i think loosen... is it mine only?
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same here but i already did some water test . If water gets in then usb port or 3.5 mm will be dead/ shorted but i think that the phone will work just fine (same as motherboards in PCs).

My friends always ask me to put in water, but I say to search video on youtube !

Congrats ) dont do it

MY previous Defy's battery cover latch moved very easily which resulted in my accidentally swiping it while underwater and the cover fell off!! It died and my new one has a better latch, so beware!

I couldn't resist and tried soon after purchase. Apparently no demage was done.
I no longer put defy under water now with excitement gone, but still wash it with soap and tap water from time to time.

First time i tried to put it under water, the phone suddenly rebooted...guess i'm not gonna try again...

Q: ARC S is rebooting it self regulary

My wife arc s has lost its brain. Just week ago has started rebooting itself. Phone has some apps and toked play market. Tried extra rebooting, changed battery, yesturday even root and costum rom(same as my arc s) Loced bootloader. Phone has ics and stock kernel. today wife said she saw 3-4 reboots.Just in the eye its shut down and starting up.
What to do or need to go service?
ALL DONE- peace of paper helped

Hey..
did u solve the problem..??
Cuz one of my friend is also having such problem with arc S
Can u tell me how u solved it..

Kajendran said:
Can u tell me how u solved it..
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READ the last line.

XperienceD said:
READ the last line.
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The last line means he add a piece of paper between the battery and battery cover doesn't it?

Its been long time, but problem does not solve paper. We send it service. Had replaced camera and scews. All most 5 months now and not any self restart after that. So something in camera has burnd out. My wife used phone as baby monitor. If baby sleep, then was some app with she got able to look in web. Possible long time open camera has burn something

rennu21 said:
Its been long time, but problem does not solve paper. We send it service. Had replaced camera and scews. All most 5 months now and not any self restart after that. So something in camera has burnd out. My wife used phone as baby monitor. If baby sleep, then was some app with she got able to look in web. Possible long time open camera has burn something
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Prolonged use of wifi or mobile data will cause your phone to heat up. Once it becomes too hot, it will turn itself off to prevent damage to the motherboard of your phone. It's not that there's a bug or software problem, it's a safety feature.
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Although the heat problem described above might be true, i had my Arc S rebooting itself at random even when it was cold.
The piece of paper trick works for me, i have a little strip of 0.5mm thick paper on the bottom of the battery, pushing the battery against the connectors at the top. Had no random reboots for months now.

Etra76 said:
Although the heat problem described above might be true, i had my Arc S rebooting itself at random even when it was cold.
The piece of paper trick works for me, i have a little strip of 0.5mm thick paper on the bottom of the battery, pushing the battery against the connectors at the top. Had no random reboots for months now.
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But I don't have that kind of problem with my phone... Most of my phone's random reboots so far are either phone too hot or when I drop it accidentally...
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Etra76 said:
Although the heat problem described above might be true, i had my Arc S rebooting itself at random even when it was cold.
The piece of paper trick works for me, i have a little strip of 0.5mm thick paper on the bottom of the battery, pushing the battery against the connectors at the top. Had no random reboots for months now.
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Paper made a little bit better, but still reboots- in numbers what we saw was 15 without paper and with paper arround 10 per day. After camera replacment 0 reboots in 6 months for sure

hot cocoa poured onto cell phone no longer works properly

Hello, I have been previously spilled on the work, a relatively hot cocoa mug on my cell phone. The cell phone was switched to the date when I wanted to look at, was from the phone. I have it on and I just came in to recovery mode. The touchpad does not boot more and more, it can be no more. What can I do that? I do not know what is broken. Outside the mobile phones are no more Schaede seen and the remaining cocoa on the phone I cleaned with a moisture cloth. Unfortunately solves my problem but not as I had hoped for. The phone has no warranty since I bought it used

How long was your reaction from pouring to cleaning the phone? It would be fine if you cleaned it in like 30secs max.
(Not trolling this info is important)
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It probably hit the board inside, my guess is the only way to try and fix it is opening the phone and cleaning the insides.

i'll give you 5 dollars for the phone.

I'd give 6$
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Guimac90 said:
It probably hit the board inside, my guess is the only way to try and fix it is opening the phone and cleaning the insides.
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thanks but my sister said to me that I put my phone on the heating over the night. I hope that fix it
and to the others, shut up to spam -.-

Pull out the battery and put your phone in a bag of rice for 24 hours.
Rice absorbs liquids.

[Q] Water Damage!

A bottle of water exploded in my bag, and now my tablet looks like this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgi0auae3rtjvyl/IMAG0644.jpg
What can I do to fix this? Open it and wipe it? Bag of rice? It looks really bad.

djbutter said:
A bottle of water exploded in my bag, and now my tablet looks like this:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fgi0auae3rtjvyl/IMAG0644.jpg
What can I do to fix this? Open it and wipe it? Bag of rice? It looks really bad.
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I had a similar situation wz my sony ericsson mobile, I opened it and let it takes its time to completely dry and then it works just fine .. good luck

Power it off fully, if not already. Open it up, if you can manage (and stomach it). Dry up what water you can (be careful not to damage anything). Do the bag of uncooked rice trick, dry in a warm (not hot) area for a few days if you can. Then try to power on.
When devices are exposed to water, its totally random whether it will work correctly or not. It might function perfectly, it might not work at all, or it might work but some things may be screwed up. Or it might work fine for a while, and then just stop working. It all depends on how much water got inside, where it went, it if caused a short circuit or corrosion inside, etc.
My wife dropped her iPhone 5 in the toilet pretty soon after its release. She put it in a bag of rice, and took it to the Apple Store, where the Genius Bar tech took it apart and dried it as best as they could. Its been working fine ever since.

so i attempted to open it by following instructions i found on this site, only to shatter the screen completely, along with the buttons on the side, and my heart. :crying::crying:
it's now a $400 paperweight.
redpoint73 said:
Power it off fully, if not already. Open it up, if you can manage (and stomach it). Dry up what water you can (be careful not to damage anything). Do the bag of uncooked rice trick, dry in a warm (not hot) area for a few days if you can. Then try to power on.
When devices are exposed to water, its totally random whether it will work correctly or not. It might function perfectly, it might not work at all, or it might work but some things may be screwed up. Or it might work fine for a while, and then just stop working. It all depends on how much water got inside, where it went, it if caused a short circuit or corrosion inside, etc.
My wife dropped her iPhone 5 in the toilet pretty soon after its release. She put it in a bag of rice, and took it to the Apple Store, where the Genius Bar tech took it apart and dried it as best as they could. Its been working fine ever since.
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djbutter said:
so i attempted to open it by following instructions i found on this site, only to shatter the screen completely, along with the buttons on the side, and my heart. :crying::crying:
it's now a $400 paperweight.
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That really sucks. I'm genuinely sorry for your loss.
Taking apart these devices is not for the faint of heart. Some people can do it like its nothing, but I learned long ago that I'm personally not good at it. You have to be really careful, as you have seen there are a lot of ways to damage the device in the process.
It may have been toast from the water damage anyway. At least you can tell yourself that!

Man, that sucks, but as stated above, that thing was a gonner as soon as it got drenched. It was only a matter of time.

When I have all my electronics charging on my desk sometimes my friends will set a cup of water coffee whatever on that same desk and I look at them like hey man what the he ll move that now. I never let liquid anything near my stuff and actually am paranoid as heck about it. Like I just said. I dont even let them set drinks within 5 feet of any electronic. Im sorry that sucks majorly man the note 8 is the perfect tablet im sorry once again
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Im a technician I fix all kinds of phones now I dont how the lcd/digitizer is, but most if samsungs phones are one peice. Ive been doing fixes for years and samsung are the most difficult screens
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Repair the Screen Damage
Probably Water is under the screen surface. Like the iPhone 5 here. Problem with all non-Waterproof LCD-Devices, lucky S4 AMOLED!
I want to buy a Note 8.0 WiFi+2G+3G+4G too. My Nexus 7 actually had no screen damage even if it was Underwater for about 56 Seconds!
FULL STORY:
(D11.M07.Y2014)I do the Backup to Restore some Lost files with IsoBuster, i wanted to move some Files to the Computer and then all the Non-Root files were somehow NOT THERE... ALL REMOVED AND DELETED! I've been so angry, that i Recorded an Underwater Video with the Nexus 7, it did Survive for 22 Second at 3,4 Metres depth but i could hold my Breath for 56 Seconds - damn, almost a(bout a) minute!
Now, 20143008 the UnderWater Damage is finally Repaired.
[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55137471&postcount=1]
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No Water Under (the) Screen.
[QOUTESENTENCE]I still want to have that (super-attractive) Note 8! The Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 WLAN WiFi 2G 3G 4G LTE 32GB was a €460€ dream tablet that time. Now it is only 189 € with my loved Android 4.1.2! (Hint:It would make sence to add the tag „Note 8" to your tàgs.)[/Qu0tesntence]
But The Hardware of the tablet seems still to work.. ...
Trust me, 92% Working Chance:
1.Put the Tablet into a Temperature-Resistant (not Plastic or something that actually melts... ) Container filled with rice. The Container can have a shape of whatever but your Note should fit into it.
So.
First read to avoid misunderstandings:
Put the Container with the Device on a Stove (E·Stove is more Recommended than a Gasstove. But a Gas-Stove will probably work too.)
BUT...
Set the Stove ONLY ON LEVEL 1 ≞ 40°C or 107,024000 °F
wait about 20 hours and see what's happend.
The same trick once repaired my Nokia 6220 Classic before it was NanoCoated (read story below) that i did buy on the release date in July 2008 . Since February 2008 i've been sure to buy the 6220 Classic.
[http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55223172&postcount=8]
Interresting Story
A (my one) Nanocoated Nokia 6220 Classic Survived since ~²Yrs Underwater, still works! (I switch on every 3 Months or so, battery around 60-70% still left since two years. I expected the Battery to require a charge every 5 Months in rare use cases and Discharges very slowly when not in use, i expected 8 Months with non use!. Now i did turn on the 6220 every all 3 months on and after 2 years, WONDER! STILL AROUND 60-70 % LEFT!) Who the hell made nanocoating? Thank you, whoever you are! I did the same with a solar calculator (eBay.de ArticleNumber: can't remember right now, i'll post if i'm able to.)
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IF THIS (still) DID NOT WORK, THEN try putting your Note 8 into a container with destilazed (destilled; destillized ) Water and try those steps agian. (destilled)
If that again does not Work then try Teslanol Testanolôl (also-called: „isopropyl alcohol", put your device into this liquid for 20·30 seconds and see if it works agaian ... !
This iso-alcohol is about ~99% pure Alcohol but well... it will actually not etch away the hardware and the contacts (not your digital phonebook but the electric physical contancts!)as you probably thought!
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Hannah Stern said:
Iso-Alcohol is made of 99% of Alcohol
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That Iso-Alkohol-Type is 99% Pure alcohol and 1% [destilled] water.
BUT that does not mean, that this alcohol will replace the destilled water.
This „destilled Water", that what i mean in the last recnet post is the 100% pur destilled
„water for clothe flat irons for cloth and so on."
But i said that you're use it for the Note 8.
Just to wash out some dirt out of it.