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This is my first post on here,but I've been lurking for ages I just bought a Mugen 3200mAh battery from MugenBattery.com.I already know about not having to condition it(lithium ion),so I ignored the instructions about cycling it and plugged it in and used it right away,and at first it seemed okay for around an hour(I didnt use it at all up to this point,just left it there until I needed it).When I went to unlock my Vibrant from suspend(pushing on the power button),the phone shut off and seemed like it was rebooting...but it just had the first screen you see(the one with Samsung and Vibrant on it) blinking on and off,even when I plugged in the charger in this state,all that popped up was a battery that also blinked on and off.The only way to get it going again was to pull and replace the battery,and it went back on again...then did this all over again when it went into suspend and I tried to unlock it.All the while,the battery stated it had around 75% power,so I have no idea what could have caused this.I put my cheep chinese 2700mAh battery back in and all was well again,so I know its the battery,not the phone.Anyone else have or seen this problem before?This is the most expensive battrery I have ever purchased for a phone at $88.00US....I hate to think that a cheep($20.00US) chinese battery has better quality control than it....
i think you need to charge it for 12 hours first.
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Thanks,you were right! An overnight charge of around 12 hours did it.This is the first phone battery I had to do that with to get them to just work at all.Seems to work just fine now Again,thank you!
Let us know how long the battery is lasting once you get a few cycles please!
Yeah, you should run the battery dry, recharge, run dry, recharge and after a few cycles your life should improve.
Will do,just need a few days to do it,its lasting a looooong time!
XPLANE9 said:
Yeah, you should run the battery dry, recharge, run dry, recharge and after a few cycles your life should improve.
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NO, NO, NO. PLEASE stop spreading bad information. This will HARM the battery, and will have 0 benefit. The only "benefit" you can get from this is that the battery meter on the phone's firmware will be calibrated to show a more correct remaining %. You can achieve the same by charging the phone 100% (overnight) going to clockwork recovery and selecting 'wipe battery stats'. Calibrated or not, the battery will last the same, regardless of what % left its showing.
Again for posterity, REPEATED DISCHARGING OF LI-ION BELOW 20% IS BAD FOR THE BATTERY, IT'S PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR IT TO GET BETTER.
I am having a similar issue with a battery that I ordered off of ebay. It's 3500mah.
When I plug it in it will turn off and get stuck in a boot loop on the vibrant screen, but if it is off then it won't turn on at all when plugged in. It has been plugged in for 9 hours so far and it doesn't even show the charging animation or anything.
Normal? Or is the battery defective?
Thanks.
Ok. After charging it overnight and still nothing, I'm going to assume its broken. Thanks.
dragon2knight said:
This is my first post on here,but I've been lurking for ages I just bought a Mugen 3200mAh battery from MugenBattery.com.I already know about not having to condition it(lithium ion),so I ignored the instructions about cycling it and plugged it in and used it right away,and at first it seemed okay for around an hour(I didnt use it at all up to this point,just left it there until I needed it).When I went to unlock my Vibrant from suspend(pushing on the power button),the phone shut off and seemed like it was rebooting...but it just had the first screen you see(the one with Samsung and Vibrant on it) blinking on and off,even when I plugged in the charger in this state,all that popped up was a battery that also blinked on and off.The only way to get it going again was to pull and replace the battery,and it went back on again...then did this all over again when it went into suspend and I tried to unlock it.All the while,the battery stated it had around 75% power,so I have no idea what could have caused this.I put my cheep chinese 2700mAh battery back in and all was well again,so I know its the battery,not the phone.Anyone else have or seen this problem before?This is the most expensive battrery I have ever purchased for a phone at $88.00US....I hate to think that a cheep($20.00US) chinese battery has better quality control than it....
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Not to derail, but how much weight does it add, and how well does the back cover fit on that big Mugen?
it fits good...
lincoln131 said:
Not to derail, but how much weight does it add, and how well does the back cover fit on that big Mugen?
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...and it does get a bit bulky,weight goes up to about double the amount,but it is so worth it,and then some!!I went from 6 hours on the stock battery to over 18 with the Mugen,and thats with heavy use(full brightness/live wallpaper,etc.).If you dont have access to a charger outside your home,this is a great buy,and you know the quality is there,unlike the uncertainty of the cheep chinese ones.Highly recommended!
The OS needs to learn your new battery. Just takes time and usage.
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just bought 3000 mah
just bought one from accessory geeks, it came 70% charged, and am updating battery stats after a full charge, during stat recalibration, power is iffy. will update, and am considering mugen. any suggestions?
I am not so sure about your information
Mannymal said:
NO, NO, NO. PLEASE stop spreading bad information. This will HARM the battery, and will have 0 benefit. The only "benefit" you can get from this is that the battery meter on the phone's firmware will be calibrated to show a more correct remaining %. You can achieve the same by charging the phone 100% (overnight) going to clockwork recovery and selecting 'wipe battery stats'. Calibrated or not, the battery will last the same, regardless of what % left its showing.
Again for posterity, REPEATED DISCHARGING OF LI-ION BELOW 20% IS BAD FOR THE BATTERY, IT'S PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR IT TO GET BETTER.
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I am not so sure about your information. This is what DHGate, a wholesale Chinese online store wrote about the 3000mah battery for Galaxy S [not MUGGEN!]
How to use a new battery:
1. First when you received the battery,. you need to release the power in the battery, just put it into your phone without charging.
2. After the battery power is out, please charge it about 12 hours in first three times.
3. So the battery will be actived. So you can just charge it about 5-7 hours when use in the further.
You can find the URL here:
http://www.dhgate.com/ems-free-i900...-back/p-ff8080812c87c8d9012c97f06d9410ea.html
I also recommend you to read the article "Everything You Need To Know About Bump Charging And Inconsistent Battery Drain" here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
So this a controversial matter, isn't it?
Roby
roby5167 said:
I am not so sure about your information. This is what DHGate, a wholesale Chinese online store wrote about the 3000mah battery for Galaxy S [not MUGGEN!]
How to use a new battery:
1. First when you received the battery,. you need to release the power in the battery, just put it into your phone without charging.
2. After the battery power is out, please charge it about 12 hours in first three times.
3. So the battery will be actived. So you can just charge it about 5-7 hours when use in the further.
You can find the URL here:
http://www.dhgate.com/ems-free-i900...-back/p-ff8080812c87c8d9012c97f06d9410ea.html
I also recommend you to read the article "Everything You Need To Know About Bump Charging And Inconsistent Battery Drain" here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
So this a controversial matter, isn't it?
Roby
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No controversies at all. Your info from the link is outright wrong.
Mannymal is correct on this one.
I also have this battery. By the time I got it, Team Whiskeys roms had gotten good enough to where I didn't need an extended battery for day to day use (stock battery usually has 30-40% when i go to bed), but I do use it when I travel, so I don't have to worry about using it like crazy. The battery lasts a long time, probably like 2 or 3 days if I actually tried to drain it, at least. And it's definitely adds bulk, but it's reasonably well made and feels sturdy.
My only complaint is that I sometimes cover the speaker with my finger when I want to silence it real quick, and it doesn't work with this because the cover's so far from the speaker. But that's just my weird thing.
Also, yeah, don't kill your battery. No es bueno.
What is this? How do I read?
What is this? How do I read?
I use a seido innocell battery and it works great after a few over night charges. I get about 8 hours average of talk time. The battery is pretty small compared to the one accessory greeks sell. Even though the ah battery ia twenty five dollars, that is like the entry level name brand battery, it will lady you a while longer than the cheap ones on ebay, but I don't knower about the ones on ebay although I do know about the one ag sells skies down charging after about 45 percent charging. The seido is charging pretty fast for me and is half the price of a mugen, the next battery I'm going to buy will be the nugent, not because I need it, just
Cause I want to enjoy it.
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All batteries are so used it. . . .
All batteries are so used it. . . .
Hi,
I would like to know what is the best battery upgrade. Sometimes i need to use my phone for geocashing for more than two days and it is very boring trying to find time for waiting for charging. So I'm looking for best solution like extended battery or something like that. Size is not important for me, but i want something quality. Can you help me please ?
Thanks
Since size isnt a problem, id say.. get the Mugen 3200mah battery.
The quality is good and it has almost twice the capacity of the original.
Official samsung 2000 mah is pretty good. I get about 30% more usage on a full charge.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1649119
I bought a 9.99 3000mah battery from Ebay. Cut a hole in the back of my cover so it would fit. Anyway I'm getting over 36 hours between charge with moderate use. Atm I'm on 55% battery and I'm on 18 hours 16min. Data on. Sync on. half brightness
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thanks a lot for you ansvers
I run ICS with the samsung 2000Amh battery .. I get up to almost 3 days with 1 single charge and about 30% usage (calls and msg and whatsapp)
ICS alone is worth alot in getting the battery juice up..
I have just bought this 2600 mAh battery, has anyone had this, or one similar? any good or bad comment on it?
http://www.flagshipfones.co.uk/batt...sung-galaxy-s-ii-s2-2600mah-cs-smi9100hl.html
I'm always afraid of buying cheap batteries because I always hear they might explode...
well maybe not so radical about the exploision, everythink can explode, check out this anker battery thread, haha
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514929
but what is true and so far my experience is that cheap batteries never performed the advertised capacity, i am talking about few dozens i have purchased...
i have only a suggestion: don't use batteries that gives you with the dock of sgs2
gunzo71 said:
I run ICS with the samsung 2000Amh battery .. I get up to almost 3 days with 1 single charge and about 30% usage (calls and msg and whatsapp)
ICS alone is worth alot in getting the battery juice up..
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I'm using Dragon ICS with Siyah kernel and I'm now on 32% with 28 hours normal use.
What seemed to help is enable and disable airplane mode 3 times in a row. Read that somewhere on XDA and I dont know why but I'm having a better batterylife since
asysa commanded
Custom Rom and kernel and your battery will last you the whole day, and use sreen brightness at 30%
will a 2000mah original samsung battery fit great with the original back case?
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will a 2000mah original samsung battery fit great with the original back case?
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no Because is a little more big, the Kit comes with a New Back Case.
alexytlee said:
I'm always afraid of buying cheap batteries because I always hear they might explode...
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Try getting 2000 mah samsung extended battery. It maintains the sleek form factor.
i'm on the original samsung 2000 mah just to be sure
nice accesories for nice phone
i am ok with momax ex power, it come with your back case,
i don't have any bad comment.
thanks!
accesories details in box? how to check is they origional or not?
i recently bought galaxy sii but i have dout of accesories came wid phone .
i m wooried dat they are not originol ..
can anyone help me to check whether they are origional in quality?
I've own the SGS3 almost since launch day. Soon it will be 2 years old.
I'm getting 3 hours SOT and 24 hours total.
I'm thinking of buying a new original 2100 battery to see if it improves battery life. Would it?
Anyone has tried this?
Thanks.
Sensamic said:
I've own the SGS3 almost since launch day. Soon it will be 2 years old.
I'm getting 3 hours SOT and 24 hours total.
I'm thinking of buying a new original 2100 battery to see if it improves battery life. Would it?
Anyone has tried this?
Thanks.
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I haven't tried it yet since I'm hopefully getting a new phone soon but I do believe it would help, maybe an extra hour SOT because I know my battery was amazing back 2 years ago and now I get the same times you do if not worse.
After a year on mine I was only getting 1700mah, So now I get a new Anker 2200mah battery every 6 months because they are just as good as original but do last longer.
Theoretically yes! battery life should improve, as you will be having a new battery.
My battery is just over a year old and i get around a 1d12h worth of battery time and roughly 3.5 to 4 hours SOT.
I recently bought a Pisen 2100mah battery off the internet and for the same SOT i got more usage. maybe 1d 20h nearing the 2d use.
n.b; wifi is always on. i use 3G for like 30 mins during a day
from what I've heard, newer generations of batteries, like ones that ship with SGS3, should not be drained to 0% with phone shutting down. it was advised to charge at low percents like 1% to 5% while phone is still on
Sensamic said:
I've own the SGS3 almost since launch day. Soon it will be 2 years old.
I'm getting 3 hours SOT and 24 hours total.
I'm thinking of buying a new original 2100 battery to see if it improves battery life. Would it?
Anyone has tried this?
Thanks.
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Of course it would and if you dont have problem with size and weight i recomend you to get samsung's 3000mhA battery. Why not getting a bigger battery
It depends how old the battery is though. All Li-ion batteries degrade over time, even if they aren't used. So if you get a 2 year old battery, that has been sitting on a shelf somewhere, it won't help as much as you'd hoped. Depending on the temperature and charge level it was stored at, it could have lost a lot of its capacity.
So the trick is to get a newly manufactured battery, which isn't so easy since most sellers don't write this information.
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Michael_P said:
After a year on mine I was only getting 1700mah, So now I get a new Anker 2200mah battery every 6 months because they are just as good as original but do last longer.
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i've been trying to find an app that measures the actual battery capacity.. i havne't found one yet... what do you use?
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i've been trying to find an app that measures the actual battery capacity.. i havne't found one yet... what do you use?
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try Battery Calibration by Nema, it is on play store
Geo_Tech said:
Of course it would and if you dont have problem with size and weight i recomend you to get samsung's 3000mhA battery. Why not getting a bigger battery
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Since a bigger battery means the battery is thicker,the original back cover wouldn't fit,then you need to use a specific cover which would make your phone heavier.
Right now I am in this trouble,I got a Onite 4500mAh extended battery with a blue cover,hopefully it's a great product, shipping as listed and battery performs exactly as listed,I just don't like the cover,it made my phone looked heavier.I was wondering maybe I should choose a power bank and put back my OEM one on.
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It depends how old the battery is though. All Li-ion batteries degrade over time, even if they aren't used. So if you get a 2 year old battery, that has been sitting on a shelf somewhere, it won't help as much as you'd hoped. Depending on the temperature and charge level it was stored at, it could have lost a lot of its capacity.
So the trick is to get a newly manufactured battery, which isn't so easy since most sellers don't write this information.
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This is true. You also need to account for your usage. If you do a lot of activity that heats your battery up (games, navigation, etc.) Then even a shelf stored battery will help since heat is another Li-ion killer.
My S3 was 2 years old in May of this year. I have been having issues with the battery and charging. My USB charging port has the classic loose connection issue as does the headphone jack. I see the fix and YouTube videos to repair but have not yet done that. I last week got my new OEM Samsung battery and the external charging kit. I just upgraded to Kitkat 4.4.2 NDA8 despite being eligible for a new phone discount from Sprint. My S3 is a 32gb unit and I will not buy a S5 with only 16gb, no way no how.
The new battery is performing very well. It is so close on updating to 4.4.2 that I can not be certain that there were not issues with my rooted 4.1.2 build after so many months. For sure the new battery is lasting longer. I think it was worth the $42.03 spent on the charger and battery as my USB port is in question and I can always swap batteries and charge with the external charger.
My S3 has a new lease on life and I can wait for new tech before upgrading. xda developers forum - root - and the desire for liberty is a powerful combination.
why not try using wireless charging? the qi reciever + charger should not cost you mote than 35 bucks. and you can still use your current battery, battery cover, & nfc, unlike powermat.
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A 2 year battery will definitely be worn-out. Depending on the charging cycle count, could be only a 20%,but maybe a 50 or 70%.
I bought a Zerolemon 7000mAh battery few months a go, I'm usually getting 4-5 days on normal usage, and 11-13h of screen on.
Best bought I have ever made.
Ever since last week, my battery has been misrepresenting the % of battery. For example, last week, I had fully charged my phone in the morning and it said 100%. Right after I pulled out the charger, it said it was at 60% battery. When I used my phone, it dropped 1-2% every minute. I thought it was an app or something that was doing this, so I installed Battery Doctor. It didn't really make a difference.
I'm posting this, because right now it's worse than ever. It said that I had 100% battery and then right after I pulled out the charger, it said it was at 56% battery. After I closed the screen, it said 100% battery again. Then it started to drop %'s every few seconds.
Some information that might be handy:
- I've had the S3 for 1 1/2 years now
- Was rooted, after update, root was removed and I haven't bothered
-Attached to the pictures are two pictures of my battery today. I haven't done anything but screenshot twice.
Also if it is a battery problem, what type of battery should I get? I'm thinking of buying an Anker 4400 mAh Extended battery (http://www.amazon.ca/Extended-GT-I9300-T-Mobile-Cellular-EB-L1G6LLU/dp/B009GVG8FA).
ic3blitz said:
Ever since last week, my battery has been misrepresenting the % of battery. For example, last week, I had fully charged my phone in the morning and it said 100%. Right after I pulled out the charger, it said it was at 60% battery. When I used my phone, it dropped 1-2% every minute. I thought it was an app or something that was doing this, so I installed Battery Doctor. It didn't really make a difference.
I'm posting this, because right now it's worse than ever. It said that I had 100% battery and then right after I pulled out the charger, it said it was at 56% battery. After I closed the screen, it said 100% battery again. Then it started to drop %'s every few seconds.
Some information that might be handy:
- I've had the S3 for 1 1/2 years now
- Was rooted, after update, root was removed and I haven't bothered
-Attached to the pictures are two pictures of my battery today. I haven't done anything but screenshot twice.
Also if it is a battery problem, what type of battery should I get? I'm thinking of buying an Anker 4400 mAh Extended battery (http://www.amazon.ca/Extended-GT-I9300-T-Mobile-Cellular-EB-L1G6LLU/dp/B009GVG8FA).
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Chances are that your battery is dying. I don't really know which one is best to get as replacement though.
You should also take a look at what is using your battery, there might be more than a dying battery (app, system). Can also get OS Monitor to see if something is over-using your ram/cpu.
N.B.: Extended battery makes your back cover much larger, you'll also need a different case (if you're using one).
BWolf56 said:
Chances are that your battery is dying. I really know which one is best to get as replacement though.
You should also take a look at what is using your battery, there might be more than a dying battery (app, system). Can also get OS Monitor to see if something is over-using your ram/cpu.
N.B.: Extended battery makes your back cover much larger, you'll also need a different case (if you're using one).
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Nothing's using up my battery because I checked through a multitude of apps and the processes running were all the same as before my battery was really dying. I do have a case so I guess I'll just try to find a smaller battery. Thanks for confirming my suspicion about my battery!
I have the ZeroLemon battery. 2300 ma. Same size as stock battery. It was a good deal. They give you 2 batteries and wall charger. Only downside is it does not have NFC. I don't use it so didn't bother me.
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I got the zero lemon 2300 and I went from 1.5 hrs of screen on time to a little over 4 hrs of screen on time. Once while doing nothing but watching videos I got 5.5 hrs. My phone is the same age as yours. Seems that is about the lifespan of smart phone batteries.
edited to add that my phone would lose 2.5 % an hr while idle, but now it's only 0.4%.
Phone totally goes black/dies when battery is 21% down to 10%. does this just mean the battery I have is bad? What replacement battery is best? I've read Anker makes a good set with charger. Thanks.
Samsung SDI batteries are the only batteries I've known to do this. When screen goes black, that should be a shutdown. Do you plug in your charger at that time? Mine actually actually showed 0%.
It's inconvenient for a battery to shutdown unexpectedly, while showing capacity remaining. I always replace Samsung OEM batteries with another brand. I found one that I liked so l went to Amazon and bought a second plus external charger from same brand. If looking at another alternative, just search MPJ and read the reviews. The battery and wall charger were on sale last week, maybe still.
If you're considering upgrading to sealed battery in unibody phone, you should consider the care required for such a phone to get battery to last. Sealed batteries are actually very similar in capability and ratings; no leap in tech but apparent shortcoming evident in Note7 embarrassment. Fast charging produces heat and steals life from battery's endurance down the road. Studies have shown since lithium batteries have no memory that you're actually prolonging the battery by slow charging without load or minimum load and bump charging rather than cycling battery to near 0% then back to 100%. Manufacturers don't tell you that because they prefer you wear your battery down in less than a year's time and consider another phone purchase.
Maybe Samsung would be better off today if consumers were more aware of how to prolong lithium batteries?
If you want your battery to last two years, bump charge it after 25% used as much as possible; it shouldn't even matter if you bump charge it 3x per day. Avoid fast charging and heat cycles. IOW, try not to use it while charging; the cycles should be short anyway.
Or, if you prefer to abuse a removable battery like the Note 4 and care less, pay about $15 and just replace the battery every year. 500 full cycles is all these batteries are currently rated for due to increased degradation with abuse. Mini cycles allows more of those cycles without degradation but you'll still have capacity when you need it to last a long day without charging.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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Wow thanks for all the information. What does bump charge mean exactly? Now my battery won't charge passed 90% either. A different one is on the way.
Toyeboy said:
Wow thanks for all the information. What does bump charge mean exactly? Now my battery won't charge passed 90% either. A different one is on the way.
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Try this, if you are rooted and have recovery wipe dalvik cache and cache. Power off phone and pull battery for like 5-10min. Hold the power button (with battery out) for like 1-2min. After letting battery sit out for 5-10min reboot and see what happens. If same instances occur. Your battery is dead just purchase a new one! Anker recommended!
Toyeboy said:
Wow thanks for all the information. What does bump charge mean exactly? Now my battery won't charge passed 90% either. A different one is on the way.
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You're welcome.
Bump charging is partially charging before battery gets low. An example would be running the battery down 25% and charging without overcharging it.
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Had the same issue, bought a new Anker and issues resolved, the stock Samsung sucks!
I'm just glad there's a way to replace it that'll mean this phone can last a long time if I'm careful with it.
Yeah it must be these batteries. My mom has the Note 4 as well and hers does the same thing. As does mine
g355150 said:
Yeah it must be these batteries. My mom has the Note 4 as well and hers does the same thing. As does mine
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Yes the stock Samsung batteries are horrible. They don't last very long then they start misrepresenting the battery statistics to the OS so you get the shutdowns at 20 or so %. I switched to a twenty$ Anker I found on Amazon over 6 months ago and never had the issue occur again. Even thy sprint techs will tell you if you ask them outright!
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