I am seriously concerned about this new 4.3 firmware that includes CarrierIQ spyware crap? I don't see much discussion about it, am I the only one that is really upset about this or am I over reacting?
D0T-C0M said:
I am seriously concerned about this new 4.3 firmware that includes CarrierIQ spyware crap? I don't see much discussion about it, am I the only one that is really upset about this or am I over reacting?
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Is it still present in AT&T builds? I know it's inactive in Canadian builds and IIRC it's there on TMO.
I just don't really care as long as they don't share what's on my phone with my wife...
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polobunny said:
Is it still present in AT&T builds? I know it's inactive in Canadian builds and IIRC it's there on TMO.
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Not sure about the AT&T build but Its in the new JB4.3 canadian builds for ROGERS , BELL , TELUS and FIDO. Whether its active or not I really don't trust it being in my phone.
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I know it's inactive in Canadian builds and IIRC it's there on TMO.
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How do you know its inactive? The post here shows it active. Maybe its just idling doing nothing but I wouldn't trust a 3rd party from another country to adhere to our privacy laws.
Voodoo Carrier IQ detector is an app in the play store by a developer named Supercurio. I remember using a lot of his work back in the Captivate days, so I would trust him. I'm not sure how accurate the app could be, and he even says that in the app description. worth a shot to see what it says though.
Edit: just ran it on mine (at&t) and it said it was not present.
D0T-C0M said:
Not sure about the AT&T build but Its in the new JB4.3 canadian builds for ROGERS , BELL , TELUS and FIDO. Whether its active or not I really don't trust it being in my phone.
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How do you know its inactive? The post here shows it active. Maybe its just idling doing nothing but I wouldn't trust a 3rd party from another country to adhere to our privacy laws.
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There's apps you can use to detect the files and if it's running. The post you linked/made to doesn't show it's active, it shows an intent. An intent has nothing to do whether it's running or not, simply that it's either installed or partially installed.
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The post you linked/made to doesn't show it's active, it shows an intent. An intent has nothing to do whether it's running or not, simply that it's either installed or partially installed.
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Well I'm no expert in all this so I'm trying to get some expert advice, I'm concerned because it wasn't in the firmware before and now it is. From what I've read the program is so encrusted in the OS that it acts somewhat like a rootkit. Certainly I can't be the only one concerned about this?
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Well I'm no expert in all this so I'm trying to get some expert advice, I'm concerned because it wasn't in the firmware before and now it is. From what I've read the program is so encrusted in the OS that it acts somewhat like a rootkit. Certainly I can't be the only one concerned about this?
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I agree it would be concerning IF it was active, which it doesn't appear to be. I think we're just having remnants from the US builds (Sprint?) when the Canadian carriers stripped it from the ROM.
CRTC has a bit stricter policies on snooping on your users than the US has, so it be quite the drama if Carrier IQ suddenly ended up on Canadian phones.
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I agree it would be concerning IF it was active, which it doesn't appear to be. I think we're just having remnants from the US builds (Sprint?) when the Canadian carriers stripped it from the ROM.
CRTC has a bit stricter policies on snooping on your users than the US has, so it be quite the drama if Carrier IQ suddenly ended up on Canadian phones.
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I've already contacted @openmedia_ca and they also are very concerned and told me they would look into it. I talked to FIDO support and they just contacted me indicating to me that they have contacted the manufacturer (samsung) as to why it was added to the latest firmware.
D0T-C0M said:
I've already contacted @openmedia_ca and they also are very concerned and told me they would look into it. I talked to FIDO support and they just contacted me indicating to me that they have contacted the manufacturer (samsung) as to why it was added to the latest firmware.
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Let's see if it gets you answers, although like I said it seems to be the only trace of Carrier IQ, so it really looks like they simply forgot to remove a bit.
polobunny said:
Let's see if it gets you answers, although like I said it seems to be the only trace of Carrier IQ, so it really looks like they simply forgot to remove a bit.
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Hopefully they forgot to take it out and they will remove it.
D0T-C0M said:
Hopefully they forgot to take it out and they will remove it.
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That's somewhat unlikely they'll issue an OTA only to remove left-over non-active parts if it's the case. Canadian providers are somewhat notorious for their sparse updates, which are (usually) simple US rom variants without the carrier bloat.
polobunny said:
That's somewhat unlikely they'll issue an OTA only to remove left-over non-active parts if it's the case. Canadian providers are somewhat notorious for their sparse updates, which are (usually) simple US rom variants without the carrier bloat.
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Your probably right.
BTW out of curiosity how do you know that the CIQ program is inactive? Is that confirmed or an educated guess?
D0T-C0M said:
Your probably right.
BTW out of curiosity how do you know that the CIQ program is inactive? Is that confirmed or an educated guess?
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Educated guess.
CIQ leaves more than just 1 intent. There needs to be more, and so far the only thing I've seen shows an intent to a settings page that does not seem to work (can't launch it). Using "am" (Activity Manager) you can also see what services are running and it doesn't show anything related. You can also further check by looking at the apps pre-installed and nothing pops-out as out of the ordinary. Luckily our canadian phones are kinda stripped down of carrier bloat so that's an easy task.
To say it's like a "rootkit" is a bit overdoing it since it can technically be detected, it's just hiding from prying eyes as a background service. I don't agree with it, don't agree with what it's doing and I don't agree it should ever be on any phone and used the way it is because of the privacy breach though.
Edit: Also here's a long thread started by TrevE about CIQ. Lots of interesting information there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1247108
polobunny said:
Educated guess.
CIQ leaves more than just 1 intent. There needs to be more, and so far the only thing I've seen shows an intent to a settings page that does not seem to work (can't launch it). Using "am" (Activity Manager) you can also see what services are running and it doesn't show anything related. You can also further check by looking at the apps pre-installed and nothing pops-out as out of the ordinary. Luckily our canadian phones are kinda stripped down of carrier bloat so that's an easy task.
To say it's like a "rootkit" is a bit overdoing it since it can technically be detected, it's just hiding from prying eyes as a background service. I don't agree with it, don't agree with what it's doing and I don't agree it should ever be on any phone and used the way it is because of the privacy breach though.
Edit: Also here's a long thread started by TrevE about CIQ. Lots of interesting information there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1247108
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Many thanks for the long detailed reply.
One more reason for me to stay at 4.1.2
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Ok, surely you heard all the news about CarrierIQ, a preinstalled app on most of the smartphones (not only Android) that registers and sends to a secret server all the things you are doing on your smartphone (from the numbers you typed to the games you played). That being said, it is also possible that the cause of unrelated phone lagging might be this program sending data to their servers. Every program that contains "IQ" might beleong to CarrierIQ.
I searched within all my apps and didn't find anything related to "IQ" so could I say this troublesome program is not installed on XPlay? Or is it hidden?
The problem is that sometimes my phone laggs for no reason so it might be this program... or it might be nothing.
Can anyone confirm this? Do you belive CarrierIQ is installed on XPlay?
PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T17XQI_AYNo
Afaik the play does not have carrier IQ installed. Even if it was, it wouldnt bother me. I think the tech media have just been scare mongering. Carrier IQ as an application is safe imo. Its how companies (like HTC) have been using it, thats at fault.
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From what I can tell its installed by the carriers. Not really a model specific thing. I'd recommend installing the carrier iq test program off the market (voodoo something name escapes me) roots not required.
FWIW I'm running the 2.3.4 UK generic OTA and using Canada's Fido service and its NOT on my phone.
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So our privacy might be secured.
Rule of thumb: where are carriers more invasive, less consumer friendly and where is a non competitive market in the cell phone business? The USA.
As far as I've seen the Carrier IQ rootkit is mostly an issue with USA carriers, USA customised models and/or with smaller manufacturers like Huawei.
Logseman said:
Rule of thumb: where are carriers more invasive, less consumer friendly and where is a non competitive market in the cell phone business? The USA.
As far as I've seen the Carrier IQ rootkit is mostly an issue with USA carriers, USA customised models and/or with smaller manufacturers like Huawei.
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Nope, they steal personal info from all around the world. Even from penguins with smartphones from South Pole.
AndroHero said:
Afaik the play does not have carrier IQ installed. Even if it was, it wouldnt bother me. I think the tech media have just been scare mongering. Carrier IQ as an application is safe imo. Its how companies (like HTC) have been using it, thats at fault.
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So its ok for u if ur bank account details/passwords go to a ****ty company and their employ makes u bank corrupt?
Oh and none of SE phone have Carrier IQ
Official Sony Ericsson statement on Carrier IQ
Sony Ericsson does not install or support Carrier IQ on its devices. The exception is in the U.S when required by carriers. Sony Ericsson does not receive or gather any information or data collected by Carrier IQ. For questions regarding Carrier IQ, we recommend consumers to contact their operator.
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Source: http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/12/02/sony-ericsson-says-no-carrier-iq-on-xperia-handsets/
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Source: http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/12/02/sony-ericsson-says-no-carrier-iq-on-xperia-handsets/
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That's why I always trusted SE.
Not on Mine!
Geeve said:
That's why I always trusted SE.
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So you always trusted SE because they don't use a certain spyware whose existence was unknown to you and everybody else a couple of weeks ago?
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So you always trusted SE because they don't use a certain spyware whose existence was unknown to you and everybody else a couple of weeks ago?
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No, dear user who wants to spam until 10000 posts, I always trusted them because they are not a money-making company as the other ones, but one that cares for its customers.
Never had I seen the number of posts of a user used in a demeaning sense. What does my having dunnohowmany posts detract from my message?
Geeve said:
That's why I always trusted SE.
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Sony.... the same company who's music CD's were installing a rootkit on people's computers......
Geeve said:
No, dear user who wants to spam until 10000 posts, I always trusted them because they are not a money-making company as the other ones, but one that cares for its customers.
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Sonys only objective is to make money. Don't fool yourself, they would rip you off silly if they thought they could get away with it.
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Hi all. I just got my GNex from Verizon. I've heard things about this phone on the CDMA side being abandoned by devs. Is this true? If so, should I get a different phone (I still have 9 days to take it back)? I'm coming from a DX, so I love hacking and flashing.. If this phone is still a keeper...can someone point me in the right direction to a thread for rooting and ROMs and flashing (oh my!)?
Thanks all
-Path
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Where did you hear that this phone was being abandoned?!
Keep it, you will be glad you did.
It is not being abandoned, Google is just dropping official support for it. That's it.
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Miscellaneous posts from people lol
I thought it was odd considering I bought this phone because it was known for being hackable..
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Here is a thread to get you started for unlocking and rooting...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400871
Check out this forum for all kinds of ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1455
joshnichols189 said:
It is not being abandoned, Google is just dropping official support for it. That's it.
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Google just dropped it as a developer phone. the updates will still be rolling out.Google stated that clearly. the update might take a bit longer than the GSM nexus..but v will still get it....
trust me the nexus will see updates quicker than anybody.
the nexus will see official version 5.0 android os... None of the Droid line ups will see official android 5.0 version on them..trust me
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Hi all. I just got my GNex from Verizon. I've heard things about this phone on the CDMA side being abandoned by devs. Is this true? If so, should I get a different phone (I still have 9 days to take it back)? ...
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Take it back. Get the GSM version. Get anything else.
CDMA is pretty **** to begin with, but Google has admitted that AOSP Android cannot fully support CDMA. You cannot use the Android source to create a working CDMA build without proprietary blobs, delivered by Google, if the carrier permits it.
Google's support for CDMA depends on carriers permitting it. On a Nexus device.
Think about that.
You wont find any shennigance like that in the GSM world because the system is not ass-****ed enough to begin with to allow such carrier-control. GSM is open. GSM is the freedom you want.
Yes. Like the poeople here will tell you: For now the CDMA devs can hack a release together just fine. They can give you a working ROM based on hacking blobs and Android source. But no, but there are no guarantees it will remain that way. One day, you might be out of luck.
The CDMA/Verizon Galaxy Nexus is a carrier-neutered Nexus. It's not the real goods. And it never was. Think about the months delayed release, because a carrier had objections to what Google put on a "clean" developer phone.
The result is carrier bloatware, and Android features like tethering removed.
The CDMA/Verizon Nexus: It's not what you want. It wasn't when it was announced, and with AOSP support taken back, it definitely isn't now.
Just return that POS and get anything else. I've had non-Nexus phones miles more open than the "Verizon Nexus". It's a joke. It's the laughing-stock of the internet.
I have to have Verizon though :\
Where I live, GSM carriers (ATT is really the only one) get horrid service..
So, knowing that, what's your opinion?
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Keep it...
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PathologyX said:
I have to have Verizon though :\
Where I live, GSM carriers (ATT is really the only one) get horrid service..
So, knowing that, what's your opinion?
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Please don't listen to this guy he has been trolling these boards for a couple days now, makes me wonder if the mods are on vacation
(Last part of that was a joke/sarcasm of course)
Verizon is just as hackable, you will have no shortage of ROM's for at least a year or year and a half.
Okay, good to know
Thanks for all of your help/suggestions (minus the troll.. gtfo)
I'll keep it then ;D
Now let's see if I can hack this one worse than my DX xD doubtful
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josteink said:
Take it back. Get the GSM version. Get anything else.
CDMA is pretty **** to begin with, but Google has admitted that AOSP Android cannot fully support CDMA. You cannot use the Android source to create a working CDMA build without proprietary blobs, delivered by Google, if the carrier permits it.
Google's support for CDMA depends on carriers permitting it. On a Nexus device.
Think about that.
You wont find any shennigance like that in the GSM world because the system is not ass-****ed enough to begin with to allow such carrier-control. GSM is open. GSM is the freedom you want.
Yes. Like the poeople here will tell you: For now the CDMA devs can hack a release together just fine. They can give you a working ROM based on hacking blobs and Android source. But no, but there are no guarantees it will remain that way. One day, you might be out of luck.
The CDMA/Verizon Galaxy Nexus is a carrier-neutered Nexus. It's not the real goods. And it never was. Think about the months delayed release, because a carrier had objections to what Google put on a "clean" developer phone.
The result is carrier bloatware, and Android features like tethering removed.
The CDMA/Verizon Nexus: It's not what you want. It wasn't when it was announced, and with AOSP support taken back, it definitely isn't now.
Just return that POS and get anything else. I've had non-Nexus phones miles more open than the "Verizon Nexus". It's a joke. It's the laughing-stock of the internet.
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Claiming misinformation as fact - check
Trolls numerous CDMA GN threads - check
Listen, bud, the *only* things missing are the blobs, which can be extracted, no need for any hacking ATM, by users.
The fact that you need to result to swearing just goes to show how juvenile you really are.
Bloatware? Two apps? Hardly a big deal unless it is you trying to make a point by drastic exaggeration. Those on these boards who have the phone are running ROMs that doesn't include them so it is opt-in.
Tethering removed? That is just an outright fabrication by you.
Enjoy your GSM and let the OP enjoy twice the storage capacity of your phone and four times the transfer speed of yours.
mutelight said:
Claiming misinformation as fact - check
Trolls numerous CDMA GN threads - check
Listen, bud, the *only* things missing are the blobs, which can be extracted, no need for any hacking ATM, by users.
The fact that you need to result to swearing just goes to show how juvenile you really are.
Bloatware? Two apps? Hardly a big deal unless it is you trying to make a point by drastic exaggeration. Those on these boards who have the phone are running ROMs that doesn't include them so it is opt-in.
Tethering removed? That is just an outright fabrication by you.
Enjoy your GSM and let the OP enjoy twice the storage capacity of your phone and four times the transfer speed of yours.
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Funny thing is, on ICS the bloatware can be "Disabled" which is basically the same thing as freezing the app in TiBu which also removes it from your app drawer and stops it from running, essentially removing it from your phone.
Oh and I think what he means in terms of tether is that you have to pay to use it, which is the same with any other carrier just with the CDMA model it is pre built in that it is blocked.
Either way this guy is just an obvious troll.
Me a troll? Come on. Sorry for spreading the good word of freedom around the Nexus forums then.
If anyone should be called a troll at this point it should be Verizon. So far they've completely butchered the Nexus program, and nobody is even pointing a finger at them.
Good job. Really. I'd be surprised to see Google even bother with a non-standard carrier anytime again, if the Nexus program isn't sabotaged enough to be dead by then.
I'll piss off. Enjoy your carrier-approved, carrier-branded Nexus.
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Oh and I think what he means in terms of tether is that you have to pay to use it, which is the same with any other carrier just with the CDMA model it is pre built in that it is blocked.
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On all carriers I have had, I pay for data. How I use it is entirely up to me. Tethering is a phone-level function and not anything the carrier can or should control.
And least of all disable or strip free, built-in tethering from the phone. Jesus christ that is invasive to the point of being illegal where I live.
Sorry. There is a free market out there, and there **** like this is not accepted. I thought people buying Nexus-devices would be aware of things like that.
I guess that defines a troll around here, being European.
josteink said:
Me a troll? Come on. Sorry for spreading the good word of freedom around the Nexus forums then.
If anyone should be called a troll at this point it should be Verizon. So far they've completely butchered the Nexus program, and nobody is even pointing a finger at them.
Good job. Really. I'd be surprised to see Google even bother with a non-standard carrier anytime again, if the Nexus program isn't sabotaged enough to be dead by then.
I'll piss off. Enjoy your carrier-approved, carrier-branded Nexus.
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What did Verizon do in all this mess other than put their name on the back and put some (Removable) bloatware on the phone?
You don't back up your points at all but whine about how terrible this phone is, obvious troll is obvious.
miketoasty said:
What did Verizon do in all this mess other than put their name on the back and put some (Removable) bloatware on the phone?
You don't back up your points at all but whine about how terrible this phone is, obvious troll is obvious.
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They stripped the built in, free Android-tethering and replaced it with a for-pay service?
In the rest of the world, you'd return the phone over a defect like that.
josteink said:
On all carriers I have had, I pay for data. How I use it is entirely up to me. Tethering is a phone-level function and not anything the carrier can or should control.
And least of all disable or strip free, built-in tethering from the phone. Jesus christ that is invasive to the point of being illegal where I live.
Sorry. There is a free market out there, and there **** like this is not accepted. I thought people buying Nexus-devices would be aware of things like that.
I guess that defines a troll around here, being European.
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You are free to use data as you wish, as it is pre defined in your agreement you make with the carrier when you use their network. Verizon has tethering in their contract as a paid service. I understand it may be different where you live but here in the states that's just how it is.
The tethering is usable once you enable a tethering plan to your account so why would they remove it?
Yes there is a free market out there but there are also contracts we sign so we can use these phones, and like I said it may be different around here than it is out there.
Enjoy your phone and we will continue to live in our idiotic bliss.
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josteink said:
They stripped the built in, free Android-tethering and replaced it with a for-pay service?
In the rest of the world, you'd return the phone over a defect like that.
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Read above post, and they stripped nothing, just added a message (If you don't pay for the service) that you need to pay for it before you use it.
josteink said:
They stripped the built in, free Android-tethering and replaced it with a for-pay service?
In the rest of the world, you'd return the phone over a defect like that.
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If you don't have the technical knowledge, then don't speak of what you do not know.
They stripped nothing. They have a provisioning apk in place for legit users. Its easily bypassed and we leave it out of aosp.
josteink said:
Take it back. Get the GSM version. Get anything else.
CDMA is pretty **** to begin with, but Google has admitted that AOSP Android cannot fully support CDMA. You cannot use the Android source to create a working CDMA build without proprietary blobs, delivered by Google, if the carrier permits it.
Google's support for CDMA depends on carriers permitting it. On a Nexus device.
Think about that.
You wont find any shennigance like that in the GSM world because the system is not ass-****ed enough to begin with to allow such carrier-control. GSM is open. GSM is the freedom you want.
Yes. Like the poeople here will tell you: For now the CDMA devs can hack a release together just fine. They can give you a working ROM based on hacking blobs and Android source. But no, but there are no guarantees it will remain that way. One day, you might be out of luck.
The CDMA/Verizon Galaxy Nexus is a carrier-neutered Nexus. It's not the real goods. And it never was. Think about the months delayed release, because a carrier had objections to what Google put on a "clean" developer phone.
The result is carrier bloatware, and Android features like tethering removed.
The CDMA/Verizon Nexus: It's not what you want. It wasn't when it was announced, and with AOSP support taken back, it definitely isn't now.
Just return that POS and get anything else. I've had non-Nexus phones miles more open than the "Verizon Nexus". It's a joke. It's the laughing-stock of the internet.
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u mad
......
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... It's the laughing-stock of the internet.
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I'd return it asap.. who'd ever want to be the laughing stock of the internet!?
I received an OTA software update with build number IMM76Q. Has anyone else received it?
Get us a logcat before installing please.
945kb...
Hmm.
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Must be the gimping of the search bar
NeoMagus said:
Must be the gimping of the search bar
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My exact thoughts!!
Yeah. 949 kb is tinyyyyy. I can't believe Verizon would be this quick about an update Google has been working on for a week and released a day or two ago! But no..... a somewhat major software revision has to take 2 months. I realize the fact that it is only a very, very small update, and it doesn't change any major software/radio stuff... but still. You know what would be cool? If verizon pushed out software updates (i.e 4.0.4, 4.1) clean at first, then follow up with a second update on the radios.
Lol nice "screenshot".
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Lol nice "screenshot".
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Next generation screenshot.
El Madhatter said:
I received an OTA software update with build number IMM76Q. Has anyone else received it?
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Did you manage to get the file name for us yet?
If you've already installed it, the easiest way would be to look through the log files in /cache with a text viewer and look for a file name ending in .zip.
Thanks!
Wierd, even verizons support site doesn't have this update listed. http://support.verizonwireless.com/system_update/galaxynexus.html. Normally they list the update a few days before roll out on that site. Unless they really had to rush to get around the ban. Curious what's in this update, or if its real.
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Wierd, even verizons support site doesn't have this update listed. http://support.verizonwireless.com/system_update/galaxynexus.html. Normally they list the update a few days before roll out on that site. Unless they really had to rush to get around the ban. Curious what's in this update, or if its real.
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As was mentioned, it is probably the disabling of the "local search" feature of the search bar.
martonikaj said:
Lol nice "screenshot".
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Its the screen shot of all screen shots... Aero Shot ... comes in Jellybean lol
-Google
If anyone else gets the OTA, please post the filename here so I can update randomphantasmagoria.com. Thanks!
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As was mentioned, it is probably the disabling of the "local search" feature of the search bar.
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Yeah, i know thats what it probably is. Verizon just always puts out a pdf on the support sites of their phones no matter how minuscule the update is. Like one that turned off the initial 4g free tethering last year said something like "enables 4g tethering plans" or something like that. Oh you tricky VZ...
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Yeah, i know thats what it probably is. Verizon just always puts out a pdf on the support sites of their phones no matter how minuscule the update is. Like one that turned off the initial 4g free tethering last year said something like "enables 4g tethering plans" or something like that. Oh you tricky VZ...
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Definitely very weird that VZW wouldn't have updated the support PDFs. They update those things religiously when there's an OTA.
I hope this IMM76Q update isn't another IMM30B where someone accidentally pushes it to a few devices, shuts it off, and it fades into the ether, leaving anyone who applied the update stranded.
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Yeah. 949 kb is tinyyyyy. I can't believe Verizon would be this quick about an update Google has been working on for a week and released a day or two ago! But no..... a somewhat major software revision has to take 2 months. I realize the fact that it is only a very, very small update, and it doesn't change any major software/radio stuff... but still. You know what would be cool? If verizon pushed out software updates (i.e 4.0.4, 4.1) clean at first, then follow up with a second update on the radios.
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Technically, the updates come from Google. Since this update has nothing to do with aspects that would be specific to carrier use they probably didn't involve Verizon in this one.
live4nyy said:
Technically, the updates come from Google. Since this update has nothing to do with aspects that would be specific to carrier use they probably didn't involve Verizon in this one.
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As far as I'm aware, that's not an option. I believe VZW has to test and approve every single OTA that goes out to a phone on their network, regardless of how small or whether there is anything carrier-specific in it.
Apple is the lone exception to this rule. Verizon lets them do whatever the hell they want with the iPhone and iPad.
I spoke to a verizon tech rep this week---he said there was an update pending and suggested it was more about a radio fix. However, I'd take that with a grain of salt
oldblue910 said:
As far as I'm aware, that's not an option. I believe VZW has to test and approve every single OTA that goes out to a phone on their network, regardless of how small or whether there is anything carrier-specific in it.
Apple is the lone exception to this rule. Verizon lets them do whatever the hell they want with the iPhone and iPad.
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That's very unfortunate then.
It's probably just an update regarding the whole patent situation
http://www.droid-life.com/2015/02/2...le-publishes-software-update-tracker-webpage/
LG G3 is not listed.
Figures... Thanks for the link though
But no LG phones are listed, so it must be unlisted for a reason other than no update coming...
Nexus 6 isn't listed either. I'm pretty sure being omitted from that list does not mean the G3 isn't getting lollipop.
I am not quite sure as to how the LG G3 Lollipop update was left off of the list, but I am happy to report it is in the T-Mobile testing phase. And our testing is going really well. I will reach out to product development and try to get it added to the list. Thank you for pointing this out.
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Being taken care of.
Yeah that's pretty friggin depressing when our phone isn't even listen as a device on the timeline.
pypen said:
Being taken care of.
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Where did this come from?
Jason Syn said:
Yeah that's pretty friggin depressing when our phone isn't even listen as a device on the timeline.
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Agreed
G3 is now listed as 'Manufacturer Development'.
Why on earth is T-Mobile just now in the testing phase when every other carrier has had a release. T -mobile is the new Verizon when it comes to updates, very sad. I expected more from the uncarrier.
Maybe they are trying to fix the roaming data connectivity issues wrt IPv6. See the old threads.
jrglasson said:
Maybe they are trying to fix the roaming data connectivity issues wrt IPv6. See the old threads.
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Could be, T-Mobile is the only carrier using IPV6 only on LTE (if I'm not mistaken). They could also have required VoLTE be working, so LG could be taking longer to make sure all this works. Still sucks that it's taking so long.
i had to move from a nexus 5 to a lg g3, what a regression when you see t-mobile slowing such updates!
I've been using a Moto X 2nd Gen. New job has the silly policy of not allowing rooted devices to access our craptastic Lotus Notes e-mail. The G3's KitKat build is unusable without root. Hoping Lollipop is better, otherwise the G3 will be finding a new home.
bedroidapp said:
i had to move from a nexus 5 to a lg g3, what a regression when you see t-mobile slowing such updates!
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Lol
Sent from my LG-D851
havanahjoe said:
I've been using a Moto X 2nd Gen. New job has the silly policy of not allowing rooted devices to access our craptastic Lotus Notes e-mail. The G3's KitKat build is unusable without root. Hoping Lollipop is better, otherwise the G3 will be finding a new home.
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You could use RootCloak on Lotus Notes so your work wouldn't be able to detect it.
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prp2 said:
You could use RootCloak on Lotus Notes so your work wouldn't be able to detect it.
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I tried. Didn't work. They use Airwatch and I couldn't get anything to fool it on the G3 while rooted.
But now that you pointed me to it again, I searched through the RootCloak thread and apparently there is a version of Airwatch that can be fooled. I'll have to try it and see if I can get it working on my G3. That would be awesome.
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I tried. Didn't work. They use Airwatch and I couldn't get anything to fool it on the G3 while rooted.
But now that you pointed me to it again, I searched through the RootCloak thread and apparently there is a version of Airwatch that can be fooled. I'll have to try it and see if I can get it working on my G3. That would be awesome.
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It worked! Now I need a good Lollipop rom. Thank you!!
xlxcrossing said:
Why on earth is T-Mobile just now in the testing phase when every other carrier has had a release. T -mobile is the new Verizon when it comes to updates, very sad. I expected more from the uncarrier.
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The answer is so simple...
There's developmental teams for each region and NOT all of them finish at the same time... The last responses shows how childish some people are. Some devices get finished on other carriers and some don't. T-Mobile isn't always the first and they are not always the last. You can say that with ANY carrier.
If manufacturers really wanted to fix this problem they should take away the carrier options they give them, and then have a single base phone so they only need to code for a single device(iPhone 6, and 6+ as an example they are all exactly the same). Of course device prices would get more expensive then people will complain how expensive they are while blaming the carrier for the prices.
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The answer is so simple...
There's developmental teams for each region and NOT all of them finish at the same time... The last responses shows how childish some people are. Some devices get finished on other carriers and some don't. T-Mobile isn't always the first and they are not always the last. You can say that with ANY carrier.
If manufacturers really wanted to fix this problem they should take away the carrier options they give them, and then have a single base phone so they only need to code for a single device(iPhone 6, and 6+ as an example they are all exactly the same). Of course device prices would get more expensive then people will complain how expensive they are while blaming the carrier for the prices.
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The fact of the matter being LG had 5.0 in hand early to mid Q4 and many carriers were putting finishing touches on their certification by the end of the year. We are now 2 months in to Q1 and every carriers' update status has surpassed ours. When you say there are different development teams for each region I assume you mean domestically which makes perfect sense but isn't that a nice way of saying "we're not ready yet". I'm not one to usually ***** about updates because it makes things less enjoyable in most cases but I'm a little blown away. When I heard LG G3 was one of the first handsets scheduled to get lollipop I thought for sure T-Mobile would shine once more. I just need to modify my definition of "soon" because in T-Mobile's dictionary the definition is a month or more.
Pulled the OTA off my phone from /cache/fota/dlpkgfile - 947.03 MB
I give no guarantee or warranty with this file. Whatever you do with it is on you. It is as it came off my phone, no modification. This file is meant for developers mostly, do not attempt to use if you don't know what you're doing.
MD5: a247aebd21c3afc3cc146570c1b601a7
SHA-1: 9294fcb1421e8d4cef85385ef372ca0bb308fe27
Download Link (Google Drive): dlpkgfile
Enjoy
Fingers crossed for an exploit...
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Would the root injection method (can't find the thread, or I would post it) work for the base image? It was intended for less popular variants, but the exact method should work for this, assuming 6.0 doesn't **** the bed after rooting like that. I mean, someone has to take the first step...
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Pulled the OTA off my phone from /cache/fota/dlpkgfile - 947.03 MB
I give no guarantee or warranty with this file. Whatever you do with it is on you. It is as it came off my phone, no modification. This file is meant for developers mostly, do not attempt to use if you don't know what you're doing.
MD5: a247aebd21c3afc3cc146570c1b601a7
SHA-1: 9294fcb1421e8d4cef85385ef372ca0bb308fe27
Download Link (Google Drive): dlpkgfile
Enjoy
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Might up this to other servers to help since im 150 up and down and ill through it on a server or two of mine.
But root injection might work if we can root the bootloader XD. Unsure if I can fiddle with it because I/m only on break for now and back to work soon lol
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Might up this to other servers to help since im 150 up and down and ill through it on a server or two of mine.
But root injection might work if we can root the bootloader XD. Unsure if I can fiddle with it because I/m only on break for now and back to work soon lol
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Certainly welcome to do so, I couldn't get it to properly upload anywhere else. I'll probably end up removing it in a few weeks after it's made the rounds.
Well I took the dive into stock, and it's not too bad. Yeah, I miss Notifications Off and Emoji Switcher (LG Emojis look like dog ****) but I'm sure I'll cope. This coming from the guy that was "CM or bust" last year at this time... God I miss CM...
Has anyone tried using flashfire to run the update?
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Would the root injection method (can't find the thread, or I would post it) work for the base image? It was intended for less popular variants, but the exact method should work for this, assuming 6.0 doesn't **** the bed after rooting like that. I mean, someone has to take the first step...
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No it will not. Google added flags to the boot.img (both kernel and ramdisk) for security reasons. So unless the bootloader is unlocked, it will see that the system partition has been tampered with and refuse to boot.
shoes22 said:
No it will not. Google added flags to the boot.img (both kernel and ramdisk) for security reasons. So unless the bootloader is unlocked, it will see that the system partition has been tampered with and refuse to boot.
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Yeah, I found the thread and read about 6.0 root issues. Shucks. It's a bummer that such an awesome piece of hardware is held back with oppressive software.
jer_stud56 said:
Pulled the OTA off my phone from /cache/fota/dlpkgfile - 947.03 MB
I give no guarantee or warranty with this file. Whatever you do with it is on you. It is as it came off my phone, no modification. This file is meant for developers mostly, do not attempt to use if you don't know what you're doing.
MD5: a247aebd21c3afc3cc146570c1b601a7
SHA-1: 9294fcb1421e8d4cef85385ef372ca0bb308fe27
Download Link (Google Drive): dlpkgfile
Enjoy
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Certainly welcome to do so, I couldn't get it to properly upload anywhere else. I'll probably end up removing it in a few weeks after it's made the rounds.
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Thanks ill put it on one drive and then a dedicated server that i have.
@jer_stud56 here's a fast mirror you could use: LINK
How do I install this on my non-rooted stock verizon lg g4?
I am not on Verizon network.
chicu1981 said:
How do I install this on my non-rooted stock verizon lg g4?
I am not on Verizon network.
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get verizon network lol.......
seriously though...
cmsjr123 said:
get verizon network lol.......
seriously though...
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They don't have a network outside of us.
chicu1981 said:
They don't have a network outside of us.
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Suckage.
Wit for kdz or other update method.
chicu1981 said:
They don't have a network outside of us.
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Then why did you buy a Verizon G4?
geoff5093 said:
Then why did you buy a Verizon G4?
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it was a great deal on ebay at least $150 less than other G4s . plus all the band were compatible with my carrier in Canada.
Now i know why it was $150 cheaper. too much bloatware and too much blocking.
chicu1981 said:
it was a great deal on ebay at least $150 less than other G4s . plus all the band were compatible with my carrier in Canada.
Now i know why it was $150 cheaper. too much bloatware and too much blocking.
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You do realize if you rooted it you could de-bloat it and get the missing features of the other models?
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You do realize if you rooted it you could de-bloat it and get the missing features of the other models?
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What features are missing? i am not too tech savvy. If i can update it to 6.0, it would be an accomplishment for me.
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What features are missing? i am not too tech savvy. If i can update it to 6.0, it would be an accomplishment for me.
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Off the top of my head, Verizon removed Smart Settings and the built-in LG theming software found in all the other models (god knows why), disabled the FM radio antenna, disabled call blocking from the Phone app to force you to use their own carrier-based call blocking service, and they also pre-installed their “always-on” Verizon Cloud storage app and Verizon Support & Protection app, which literally monitors every single thing you do on your phone under the guise of anti-virus protection, disk usage and “battery monitoring”. It’s awfully redundant as LG’s built-in software already monitors free disk space and apps that use excessive battery, but the only way to freeze or remove Verizon’s bloatware is with a rooted phone.
It’s a shame because the G4 phone itself is really quite nice and sophisticated if we were allowed to use it how we want.