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[Q] Anyway to go back to 6.2 ?

I bought a new KF and it has 6.3 on it. I would like to root via BuritooRoot3 but I need 6.2 to run his app. Is there any way to take a stock 6.3 KF and get it back to a stock 6.2 ???
Thanks !

Thibor69 said:
I bought a new KF and it has 6.3 on it. I would like to root via BuritooRoot3 but I need 6.2 to run his app. Is there any way to take a stock 6.3 KF and get it back to a stock 6.2 ???
Thanks !
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Flash MoDaCo rom. It's a pre rooted stock with gapps and GFS included.

soupmagnet said:
Flash MoDaCo rom. It's a pre rooted stock with gapps and GFS included.
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DO you think this is the best way to go ?........ or should I go ahead with the only 6.3 root guide I have seen here on this site. (pooky900 guide or something sorry forgot his name) Or do you think it best to wait for a easier newer 6.3 rooter to show up ?? Just your thoughts .... I am not holding you to anything here :O)
Thanks

Thibor69 said:
DO you think this is the best way to go ?........ or should I go ahead with the only 6.3 root guide I have seen here on this site. (pooky900 guide or something sorry forgot his name) Or do you think it best to wait for a easier newer 6.3 rooter to show up ?? Just your thoughts .... I am not holding you to anything here :O)
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I've tried to explain much of this a couple of times now, so here's my final attempt...
The generally accepted procedure for rooting or installing a ROM:
1) Get to fastboot mode by utilizing either...
a) a factory cable
b) fbmode
2) Install recovery and custom bootloader
3) Either root by installing su and Superuser.apk or flash a custom ROM
To get back to 6.2, you will still have to do #1 & #2 and flash the 6.2 zip package like you would any other ROM. Amazon's software will not allow you to downgrade the software through stock so you can use the BurritoRoot exploit.
It's not likely for someone to come up with a newer/easier method for rooting 6.3 because...
a) It's pretty straightforward as it is
b) No one spends the time to do it when the old way works perfectly well
I've laid out the procedure in excruciating detail here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1638452
I invite you to keep exploring easier ways to do this, so I can make the how-to above simpler and shorter, but I doubt you will find one. Good luck.

MoDaCo comes with 6.3 pre rooted along with gapps and Google Framework Services preinstalled. It is by far the easiest route to get a rooted stock because the work has already been done for you. All you have to do is flash it in recovery. (Assuming you have recovery installed of course)
Last time I heard, you still have to rename otacerts.zip to prevent any OTA updates screwing up everything but I'm not 100% on that. You should definitely look into it, though. People here are pretty good at staying on top of the latest updates and making flashable versions that won't undo everything you have so far (i.e. break root, uninstall recovery, etc.)
Pokey9000's rooting method is very effective and good if you want to learn but unnecessary IMO if you just want a rooted stock that works well. But I think you should definitely have fbmode on your device if you are using Windows. It could come in very handy when your drivers are being stupid.
It should be noted that I don't use stock and never have so I couldn't tell you much about the differences between MoDaCo and straight rooted, as in whether or not you can watch Prime Video with it, but there are plenty of stock users here that can help you sort it out.

Thibor69 said:
I bought a new KF and it has 6.3 on it. I would like to root via BuritooRoot3 but I need 6.2 to run his app. Is there any way to take a stock 6.3 KF and get it back to a stock 6.2 ???
Thanks !
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Kindle Fire Utility .95 works easily on 6.3 and while it's not BurritoRoot it is still a simple one click root utility with a lot of features to make the rooting process easy. Any particular reason you want Burrito?

soupmagnet said:
MoDaCo comes with 6.3 pre rooted along with gapps and Google Framework Services preinstalled. It is by far the easiest route to get a rooted stock because the work has already been done for you. All you have to do is flash it in recovery. (Assuming you have recovery installed of course)
Last time I heard, you still have to rename otacerts.zip to prevent any OTA updates screwing up everything but I'm not 100% on that. You should definitely look into it, though. People here are pretty good at staying on top of the latest updates and making flashable versions that won't undo everything you have so far (i.e. break root, uninstall recovery, etc.)
Pokey9000's rooting method is very effective and good if you want to learn but unnecessary IMO if you just want a rooted stock that works well. But I think you should definitely have fbmode on your device if you are using Windows. It could come in very handy when your drivers are being stupid.
It should be noted that I don't use stock and never have so I couldn't tell you much about the differences between MoDaCo and straight rooted, as in whether or not you can watch Prime Video with it, but there are plenty of stock users here that can help you sort it out.
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Just so everybody is on the same page and because I've done more rooting experiments the last few days than I care to admit.
Thibor69 said in another one of his threads that he wants to go to the Hellfire ROM. He's not interested in rooted stock, as far as I can tell. I agree though... I don't know why someone would take the time to root when MoDaCo seems to have done all the heavy lifting already. MoDaCo users also say that they can use some app (the name escapes me at the moment) that switches root on and off so they can watch videos.
pokey9000 doesn't have a rooting method. He has a fastboot exploit that is being used to root 6.3.x in a guide originally written by jcase. For 6.2.x, the rooting method was to use the BurritoRoot exploit to gain root and then get to fastboot mode by using idme. Amazon closed that hole so BurritoRoot can no longer be used for 6.3.x. Because jcase wasn't interested in building another root exploit, he published that guide as an alternative. The rooting method for 6.3.x is to use pokey9000's fbmode to get to fastboot and then install su privileges through TWRP... so, the process has been reversed... su -> fastboot for 6.2.x and now fastboot -> su for 6.3.x. So, you still have to use pokey9000's fbmode to get to fastboot and install a recovery (and bootloader) if you want to install any ROM.
Laquox said:
Kindle Fire Utility .95 works easily on 6.3 and while it's not BurritoRoot it is still a simple one click root utility with a lot of features to make the rooting process easy. Any particular reason you want Burrito?
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KFU is broken for whatever reason. It does get you su, but doesn't install the Superuser.apk... I don't know why and I'm not interested in debugging it. I'm not sure if sideloading Superuser.apk is the only thing that needs to be done after its "rooting" process, but it also installs the old versions of FFF and TWRP. That causes headaches all around for people that don't know their way around the bootloader and recovery. Otherwise, it's great!
KFU uses the same fbmode exploit that I've outlined in my guide, so the process is essentially identical. If you follow along with what I have there, you'll get all the current software and a working Superuser. If you use KFU, you can go back and reinstall all the stuff I mentioned above.

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Yeah, sorry about that. I was replying to his post and you beat me to the punch.
So, yeah...what kinfauns said

Thibor69 said:
I bought a new KF and it has 6.3 on it. I would like to root via BuritooRoot3 but I need 6.2 to run his app. Is there any way to take a stock 6.3 KF and get it back to a stock 6.2 ???
Thanks !
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You can use the Kindle Fire Utility 0.9.5
That's what I used to root my Kindle on 6.3
You just have to sideload the superuser.apk file though

kinfauns said:
Thibor69 said in another one of his threads that he wants to go to the Hellfire ROM. He's not interested in rooted stock, as far as I can tell.
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.....Yes that is what I want to do. I don't care about stock at all.
kinfauns said:
I agree though... I don't know why someone would take the time to root when MoDaCo seems to have done all the heavy lifting already. MoDaCo users also say that they can use some app (the name escapes me at the moment) that switches root on and off so they can watch videos.
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.....I hear what you are saying. Since I don't care about amazon video's, I see no reason to keep any aspects of stock at all .... so I guess I should skip MoDaCo's method also ... right ?
kinfauns said:
pokey9000 doesn't have a rooting method. He has a fastboot exploit that is being used to root 6.3.x in a guide originally written by jcase. Because jcase wasn't interested in building another root exploit, he published that guide as an alternative. The rooting method for 6.3.x is to use pokey9000's fbmode to get to fastboot and then install su privileges through TWRP... So, you still have to use pokey9000's fbmode to get to fastboot and install a recovery (and bootloader) if you want to install any ROM.
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.....Ok I understand. My question tho would be after I get to fastboot, you said to install a recovery and bootloader. Isn't TWRP the recovery method ? and which bootloader do I install ? And I do this all from within fastboot ? Also, what about FFF ? were does that come into play.
kinfauns said:
KFU uses the same fbmode exploit that I've outlined in my guide, so the process is essentially identical. If you follow along with what I have there, you'll get all the current software and a working Superuser. If you use KFU, you can go back and reinstall all the stuff I mentioned above.
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But you mentioned that KFU is broken ... so I guess I should just follow your method.
ONE LAST NOTE: Were are the drivers for Kindle Fire. I plug into PC (win7) and it doesn't find driver for kindle, but I still have access to the internal somehow ..
I am ready to start this process now .... but I want to be 100% sure I have a recovery image in case I soft-brick somehow.
You guys are great ... and thank you for helping me !!!
Cheers

Thibor69 said:
I hear what you are saying. Since I don't care about amazon video's, I see no reason to keep any aspects of stock at all .... so I guess I should skip MoDaCo's method also ... right ?
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Right, sort of. Any custom rom you flash will be rooted, but you need recovery to flash it.
.....Ok I understand. My question tho would be after I get to fastboot, you said to install a recovery and bootloader. Isn't TWRP the recovery method ? and which bootloader do I install ? And I do this all from within fastboot ? Also, what about FFF ? were does that come into play.
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TWRP is the preferred recovery. You can install the latest bootloader from within recovery... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25598837 ...and use fastboot to change to recovery bootmode
But you mentioned that KFU is broken ... so I guess I should just follow your method.
ONE LAST NOTE: Were are the drivers for Kindle Fire. I plug into PC (win7) and it doesn't find driver for kindle, but I still have access to the internal somehow ..
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The drivers for the KF can be found in the KFU folder along with an installation batch file.

Ok so to sum it up:
1) install kindle drivers, be sure PC see's Kindle and be sure adb is working
2) install TWRP
3) install latest bootloader (via link below)
4) then flash ROM ?
Cheers
soupmagnet said:
Right, sort of. Any custom rom you flash will be rooted, but you need recovery to flash it.
TWRP is the preferred recovery. You can install the latest bootloader from within recovery... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25598837 ...and use fastboot to change to recovery bootmode
The drivers for the KF can be found in the KFU folder along with an installation batch file.
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Sounds about right. There's a possibility you may need to fix your drivers again at some point in the process. If for some reason you can't get fastboot to connect:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625356
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747671&postcount=2

soupmagnet said:
Sounds about right. There's a possibility you may need to fix your drivers again at some point in the process. If for some reason you can't get fastboot to connect:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1625356
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747671&postcount=2
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Many thanks !

[Q] KF2 w/ just root?

Are there any KF2 stock rooted roms out there? There are too many bugs with the two current KF2 roms out...I need YouTube to work, etc. Is there a stock rooted rom I can use until development gets a little better? Thx.

xXezmacXx said:
Are there any KF2 stock rooted roms out there? There are too many bugs with the two current KF2 roms out...I need YouTube to work, etc. Is there a stock rooted rom I can use until development gets a little better? Thx.
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... just root the stock rom?

fmkilo said:
... just root the stock rom?
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is there a way to get back to stock with out having to root all over again? it took me and you a while to root my kf2 lmao...btw how do you get back to stock? i should have did a backup.

xXezmacXx said:
is there a way to get back to stock with out having to root all over again? it took me and you a while to root my kf2 lmao...btw how do you get back to stock? i should have did a backup.
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This is how you get back to stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096888

NavyLCDR said:
This is how you get back to stock:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2096888
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you need to buy a factory cable from what i read in that thread? thats the only way to get stock root? this is confusing as hell?

xXezmacXx said:
is there a way to get back to stock with out having to root all over again? it took me and you a while to root my kf2 lmao...btw how do you get back to stock? i should have did a backup.
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Okay, you need to clarify really what the issue is, and what you're trying to do.
Firstly, YouTube does work on the CM10.1 rom, just not with HD.
ROMs are the Operating system for your kindle. All ROMs can basically enable root, and install the superuser app. If you have root, you're still on stock. However, using the root permissions, you can get a bootloader/recovery setup, and then install a new ROM. Most new ROMs have root already enabled and superuser installed, but they don't have to. You can get and lose root on any ROM.
This is how you restore the Kindle. Yes you do need a fastboot cable.
Depending on what state your device is in, it may be possible without the cable, but it would be more complex and/or dangerous.

iytrix said:
Okay, you need to clarify really what the issue is, and what you're trying to do.
Firstly, YouTube does work on the CM10.1 rom, just not with HD.
ROMs are the Operating system for your kindle. All ROMs can basically enable root, and install the superuser app. If you have root, you're still on stock. However, using the root permissions, you can get a bootloader/recovery setup, and then install a new ROM. Most new ROMs have root already enabled and superuser installed, but they don't have to. You can get and lose root on any ROM.
This is how you restore the Kindle. Yes you do need a fastboot cable.
Depending on what state your device is in, it may be possible without the cable, but it would be more complex and/or dangerous.
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Sorry for not explaining myself bettter. I'm currently on [ROM] [JB 4.2.1]cm10.1/sgt7 [20130118], obviously rooted, the whole shabang, nothing is with my KF2, I can boot into the rom, recovery, restart, power on/off, etc. Anyways, fmkilo helped me root my KF2 as it was totally different for me than my original KF which was easy to root, has issues with this. He was a big help and recommended that I flash the sgt7 rom, well I didn't make a backup(not going to say why) of my KF2 when I was rooted using just stock, no rom, etc. Well the sgt7 rom is not stable for me, YouTube isn't working(which my son uses, the KF2 is basically his) along with other issues. I want to just get back to my stock KF2 until something more stable for daily use comes out. I don't want to lose root, I just want to get back to my KF2 before I flashed the sgt7 rom. From what I've read you have to buy a special factory cable to restore your KF2, correct? I don't have one so I'm curious one why I need to go through all that trouble just to get back to stock w/ root? All I need right now is the Android Market and the Google apps.

xXezmacXx said:
Sorry for not explaining myself bettter. I'm currently on [ROM] [JB 4.2.1]cm10.1/sgt7 [20130118], obviously rooted, the whole shabang, nothing is with my KF2, I can boot into the rom, recovery, restart, power on/off, etc. Anyways, fmkilo helped me root my KF2 as it was totally different for me than my original KF which was easy to root, has issues with this. He was a big help and recommended that I flash the sgt7 rom, well I didn't make a backup(not going to say why) of my KF2 when I was rooted using just stock, no rom, etc. Well the sgt7 rom is not stable for me, YouTube isn't working(which my son uses, the KF2 is basically his) along with other issues. I want to just get back to my stock KF2 until something more stable for daily use comes out. I don't want to lose root, I just want to get back to my KF2 before I flashed the sgt7 rom. From what I've read you have to buy a special factory cable to restore your KF2, correct? I don't have one so I'm curious one why I need to go through all that trouble just to get back to stock w/ root? All I need right now is the Android Market and the Google apps.
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just flash the new hashrom until sgt7 gets updated, youtube hd works now, if you really want to go back to stock, I can guide you over on irc... details in my sig VV

The only thing a factory cable does is get you into Fastboot. If you have a rooted ROM, you can get into fastboot either using ADB commands (if the Kindle is connected to the computer): "su" <enter> and then "reboot bootloader" <enter>. Without the quotes. reboot bootloader will cause the Kindle to reboot into fastboot mode and then you can use the first aide program in the link provided to load the factory ROM, and then do the factory over the air upgrade to 10.2.6 and then root it.
Or, install Android Terminal on the Kindle, and in Android Terminal issue the commands "su" and then "reboot bootloader".

NavyLCDR said:
The only thing a factory cable does is get you into Fastboot. If you have a rooted ROM, you can get into fastboot either using ADB commands (if the Kindle is connected to the computer): "su" <enter> and then "reboot bootloader" <enter>. Without the quotes. reboot bootloader will cause the Kindle to reboot into fastboot mode and then you can use the first aide program in the link provided to load the factory ROM, and then do the factory over the air upgrade to 10.2.6 and then root it.
Or, install Android Terminal on the Kindle, and in Android Terminal issue the commands "su" and then "reboot bootloader".
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ok so i downloaded android terminal and i also downloaded the new "update-kindle-10.2.6_D026_2630020.bin".
could someone please give me step by step directions on how to put the new 10.2.6 updat on my kf2? i saw this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2111300 (he said you can install google apps with just root, no rom needed?
so my goal is to just get on update-kindle-10.2.6, root and install google apps. any help would be much appreciated. thanks.

How to root kfhd 8.9 with 8.4.1

I want to root my 8.9.
I have prepared everything to root it with the KFFirst Aide method. Before I want to start, my Kindle have updatet to 8.4.1.
Do the KFFFirstAide method work on 8.4.1?
I`have all the necessary data already downloaded and adb and fastboot works with option 16.
Can I start the root process without probelms with this method?
I want to install playsore and perhaps later twrp recovery.
Stefan

Rooting Fire HD 8.9 on 8.4.1
stefan1155 said:
I want to root my 8.9.
I have prepared everything to root it with the KFFirst Aide method. Before I want to start, my Kindle have updatet to 8.4.1.
Do the KFFFirstAide method work on 8.4.1?
I`have all the necessary data already downloaded and adb and fastboot works with option 16.
Can I start the root process without probelms with this method?
I want to install playsore and perhaps later twrp recovery.
Stefan
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I can't answer the question regarding the KFFirst Aide rooting utility but I can tell you that using the Bin4ry tool on 8.4.1 does work. I'm now looking for a method to install TWRP 2.4.4 in conjunction with 8.4.1. If you have any ideas let us know.

rebelduke said:
I can't answer the question regarding the KFFirst Aide rooting utility but I can tell you that using the Bin4ry tool on 8.4.1 does work. I'm now looking for a method to install TWRP 2.4.4 in conjunction with 8.4.1. If you have any ideas let us know.
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now it has been updatet to 8.4.3
i don`t know how to root...
shall i try bin4ry tool?
greets stefan

stefan1155 said:
now it has been updatet to 8.4.3
i don`t know how to root...
shall i try bin4ry tool?
greets stefan
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I also was OTA upgraded to 8.4.3. However, I did not lose root or the Google Play Store download/install capability. Bin4ry ver. 30 worked for me to root 8.4.1 and as I've stated, I did not lose root after being upgraded to 8.4.3.

Could someone please post the link to the thread on the latest Binary root method for Kindle Fire HD 8.9. Thanks

FraDiavalo said:
Could someone please post the link to the thread on the latest Binary root method for Kindle Fire HD 8.9. Thanks
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hi!
link to Binary
I strongly recommend soupkit, a Linux-live-system based installer. After installing it on a usb stick and booting from the stick you have everythink perfectly set up. I rooted with Soupkit in < 30 min!
Soupkit

For those rooting for the first time, I just rooted my KF HD 8.9 with the Root Many method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
The Qemu root method did not work for me. I did make sure to install and test the ADB drivers first. I rooted both 8.4.3 and 8.4.1. I was OTA updated right after rooting 8.4.1 I intend to prevent any more OTA updates with Droidwall.

I tried doing the SoupKit method but I'm having trouble with the ADB. Rootplus couldn't detect any ADB in the folder even though it's there. As for the Binary method, I tried doing it for several hours yesterday but I can't get it to work. What should be the first steps before I use the Binary root program? Sorry, but I'm really such a noob at this. My Kindle btw is 8.9 version 8.4.3

FraDiavalo said:
I tried doing the SoupKit method but I'm having trouble with the ADB. Rootplus couldn't detect any ADB in the folder even though it's there. As for the Binary method, I tried doing it for several hours yesterday but I can't get it to work. What should be the first steps before I use the Binary root program? Sorry, but I'm really such a noob at this. My Kindle btw is 8.9 version 8.4.3
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Qemu root did work for me with 8.4.3

KFF will root both 8.4.1 and 8.4.3.

FraDiavalo said:
I tried doing the SoupKit method but I'm having trouble with the ADB. Rootplus couldn't detect any ADB in the folder even though it's there. As for the Binary method, I tried doing it for several hours yesterday but I can't get it to work. What should be the first steps before I use the Binary root program? Sorry, but I'm really such a noob at this. My Kindle btw is 8.9 version 8.4.3
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the binaries provided by soupkit are for 32 Bit. Maybe you used a 64 Bit Linux installation? (Tried 64 Bit at first and it did not work, with 32 Bit it worked like a charm)

Finally got my Kindle rooted. I used the Soupkit method using Ubuntu 32 bit. Thanks everyone.

Manual Update Unrooted FireTV stick using an update.bin

Is there a way to manually update firmware for an unrooted firetv stick?
I know you can't access the cache folder, but is there a way to trigger it to install the update.bin from another folder?
Thanks!
MD

mrdodge said:
Is there a way to manually update firmware for an unrooted firetv stick?
I know you can't access the cache folder, but is there a way to trigger it to install the update.bin from another folder?
Thanks!
MD
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Is what im needing also, all my efforts so far have failed, have you had any luck yet?
Ive got a friends stick here which was on 5.2.1.0 and kingorooted he tried to replace with superSU and it now wont boot. Windows version of kingoroot isnt any good at the moment.
Have you tried KingoRoot for pc yet?
If you can get root from that program you wont have any problems.

Lost root and recovery yesterday

I have the Fire TV 1 and had TWRP and Pre Rooted 5.2.4.1 FW installed. Yesterday during a restart the FTV started boot looping. I could see the option for TWRP recovery though.
I booted into TWRP recovery and reflashed the Pre Rooted 5..2.4.1. The FTV now booted but I have lost both TWRP and SuperSu as well. When I type su into an adb shell I got su not found?
Updated were blocked through the device as well.
Anyone else experience this? What can I do now to get TWRP installed and root established?

Help anyone?

Bump ^

Did you do any factory reset or something? I don't know how you could have lost SU and twrp when installing the prerooted roms. All apps say no root? i wonder if you did a factory reset if it would help or re-installed whatever version you were on when you rooted? I'm a novice so don't blame me for bricking! lol

Michajin said:
Did you do any factory reset or something? I don't know how you could have lost SU and twrp when installing the prerooted roms. All apps say no root? i wonder if you did a factory reset if it would help or re-installed whatever version you were on when you rooted? I'm a novice so don't blame me for bricking! lol
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Thats why I am stumped! I did not do any factory resets or wipes. I simply selected rbox's rooted 5.2.4.1 ROM, installed and rebooted. Now I dont see the initial boot screen when the fire tv restarts. Just the regular animation.

is your bootloader unlocked? I don't have any rooted FTV1's. I think you could reflash the recovery if your unlocked....

Michajin said:
is your bootloader unlocked? I don't have any rooted FTV1's. I think you could reflash the recovery if your unlocked....
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Unfortunately I don't think my bootloader is unlocked

pspTP said:
Unfortunately I don't think my bootloader is unlocked
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all i can think of is try to root with a USB A to A cable, i think that was possible. From appstarter do you see anything non-stock?

Michajin said:
all i can think of is try to root with a USB A to A cable, i think that was possible. From appstarter do you see anything non-stock?
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Since I had installed rBox's 5.2.4.1 rooted ROM when I had root, thats what I am on now except without root now. I had blocked updates on the device so thankfully that is still in place. And according to aftvnews, this version cannot be rooted.
I do have a bunch of non stock apps that I had installed that are still present on the device.

pspTP said:
Since I had installed rBox's 5.2.4.1 rooted ROM when I had root, thats what I am on now except without root now. I had blocked updates on the device so thankfully that is still in place. And according to aftvnews, this version cannot be rooted.
I do have a bunch of non stock apps that I had installed that are still present on the device.
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you ever try to sideload SuperSU? Or run a root app that requests access and seen if it just says access denied? Just throwing out ideas to try, I didn't see anyone else trying to help. If you flashed pre-rooted version then i would think some of the exploits are still in your system.

Michajin said:
you ever try to sideload SuperSU? Or run a root app that requests access and seen if it just says access denied? Just throwing out ideas to try, I didn't see anyone else trying to help. If you flashed pre-rooted version then i would think some of the exploits are still in your system.
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I downloaded the latest supersu and sideloaded it. When I run it there is simply a blank screen and back to where I was. Nothing happens.
Now in appstarter I can see two versions of su, one from before and the latest one. Running either does not do anything.
I had Adaway installed before as well. If I run it now, it just comes back with not a rooted device

Do you still have TWRP? You should be able to flash SuperSU that way.

Sizzlechest said:
Do you still have TWRP? You should be able to flash SuperSU that way.
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No thats the kicker, I lost both TWRP and root.

It is a long shot, but you could try kingo root and king root, see if they can get root access. I know they dont work on a firetv stock for rooting, but something must have flashed wrong and maybe they can find a way into root.
Curious though, every time you have flashed the pre-rooted OS did you always disable the updates every time?

Michajin said:
It is a long shot, but you could try kingo root and king root, see if they can get root access. I know they dont work on a firetv stock for rooting, but something must have flashed wrong and maybe they can find a way into root.
Curious though, every time you have flashed the pre-rooted OS did you always disable the updates every time?
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I believe the pre-rooted OS has that setting disabled in the first place.

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I believe the pre-rooted OS has that setting disabled in the first place.
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AFTVnews always recommends disabling updates to be sure. It almost seems like you got updated. Try running Kingroot. Worst case it fails and you are still where you are at...