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Backing up befroe rooting

SO i finally decided to root my phone but i have a couple questions. my phone is pretty dam customized an di spent several hours doing it (ie- installed programs, have game save files, custom, desktops, ringtone, alerts, accounts, facebook contacts linked with gmail contacts...)
so first question- using backup pro or any other backup program if a backup is created once the phone is rooted can i run the restore to get all my programs and settings back?
also i know to root your phoen you need to overwrite the sd card. if i copy all my info off the sd card, can i copy it right back once the root is complete (ie- pics, game saves...)
anything esle i should know before rooting.
fyi- i have worked for several tyears as a windows,systems/network admin, so the technical part of rooting is not my question is the backup and recovery of the programs and settings and such
thanks in advance

I am not an expert but maybe this answer can help.
As far as backing up and restoring, u should be fine with whatever program u use. Rooting just gives u super user access to the root directory, but doesn't actually overwrite anything that would prevent u from restoring programs u had backed up. Installing a custom rom however is more of re-writing of the underlying software, which then forces you to put a lot more effort back into restoring (i.e. home screen layout, widgets,...).
As far as your sd card, I didn't have to wipe or reformat mine when I rooted. In fact I am using the same card I had in my moto droid. I may have formatted to fat32 at one point back then, but I do not recall having to re-wipe when rooting my Dinc.
Hope this helps.
P.s. I also recommend switching to titanium backup once rooted. It is by far the best backup and restore utility out there. Also, u may want to post questions like this in the proper forum, not the dev forum. People tend to get peeved by improper posting.
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thanks
I'll repost in the correct spot. dont wanna ruffle any feathers. ya know its just i put so much work into customizing the phone i dont want to have to redo it. but as long as i document what i have done i should be able to redo it all myslef if the backup fails. the program i use it mybackup pro btw

All the back up apps require root. Rooting will not delete any of your data. Root and do a nandroid

Not all backup apps require root, just the better ones. I like titanium because it will save your customizations as well as your apps.
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so can someone briefly explain how they would go about- backing up, moving data off card, then rooting? (obv i dont need rooting instructions)
thanks

I'm not a pro at this stuff but from my experience your worrying about stuff you really don't need to at this point. Rooting itself isn't gonna delete anything. It's just gonna give you more access to your phone. You still have the same radio, same hboot, and same OS version and kernel.
All I'm saying is download unrevoked3, root your phone, then first thing do a nandroid backup and boom your backed up. And after you boot it up download Titanium Backup and start backing up.

shehababbassi said:
so can someone briefly explain how they would go about- backing up, moving data off card, then rooting? (obv i dont need rooting instructions)
Not sure exactly what you're looking for, but if it's to transfer all the files from your sd card to your computer, wipe & format and then re-add, then it depends on your computer. I have a mac so I save a backup copy of my sd card on my desktop by mounting my phone as a disk drive when I plug it in, and then drag and drop all the files I want to save (or transfer to my phone). This will also transfer your backup files as well (assuming they are being saved to your sd card).
Eno is right though, you are getting ahead of yourself right now.
Root, do a nandroid backup, get titanium and then have fun with your newly rooted phone.
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I have also been backing up my texts with SMS Backup. I haven't had any luck with just restoring data from titanium. But as they're saying, root is really the first step.
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Also, with any new ROM I loose call log data. Anyone know a fix for that?
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HarrisonBP said:
Also, with any new ROM I loose call log data. Anyone know a fix for that?
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Every time I flash a new Rom I do sms backup and restore, call log backup and restore, and apn backup and restore. All of which are from the same dev. Call logs backup and restore is what you are looking for but an apn backup is always handy.

Few Newbie Questions

Hi guys,
OK, so I'm not really a newbie as I loaded Android onto my HD2, both SD and NAND versions (RIP HD2 ).
But, it has been a while and I have a couple of questions I've been trying to find answers to:
I got my nexus though vodafone UK, if this makes a difference.
Can I root this phone without wiping the device? I'm currently quite happy with the stock rom , but I'd like to push some custom boot animations, etc.
I've been looking into backing up apps that I've downloaded as I don't currently have wifi access - I do get unlimited data for a few months, but it'll take ages to download it all again!
Titanium Backup was my first port of call, but says it requires root...
And lastly, if I were to use Titanium to back up, say, a game, would my progress in that game be saved?
Many thanks for any info
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phanteh said:
Can I root this phone without wiping the device? I'm currently quite happy with the stock rom , but I'd like to push some custom boot animations, etc.
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Rooting your phone doesnt wipe your device, however in order to root your phone you will need to unlock the bootloader which is a very simple process but this process DOES wipe your device. It only needs to be performed once though but without doing it you wont be able to do anything else.
Use the Sticky Thread to find out how to install fastboot drivers which you will need to unlock the bootloader. Then you can use pauls r3 Superboot to root the phone.
I've been looking into backing up apps that I've downloaded as I don't currently have wifi access - I do get unlimited data for a few months, but it'll take ages to download it all again!
Titanium Backup was my first port of call, but says it requires root...
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Any app that will backup your apps/settings will require root. You can also flash ClockworkMod and make a NAND backup of your device, then restore the DATA partition on a new Rom to restore your apps.
And lastly, if I were to use Titanium to back up, say, a game, would my progress in that game be saved?
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Im pretty sure it saves app data so that would include saved games or settings.
Mark.

Cheers Mark!
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Titanium Backup?

I have a Verizon Galaxy Nexus; I plan to unlock and root it, and try out some ROMs. Since I've had the phone for a while, though, I wanted to back up all my save data from games, and whatnot, so I used the root method that doesn't require unlocking, and I used Titanium Backup to back up all the apps I wanted it to.
I want to copy this back up folder to my computer, so when the phone gets wiped during the unlocking process, I can just transfer it back and restore everything once I'm back up and running. The thing is, when I connect my phone to the computer, the Titanium Backup folder does not show. I can see it on the phone itself, via a file manager, but I can't see it on my computer. So, how do I copy the folder to my computer?

could always 'adb pull' it.

At the risk of sounding stupid, I don't quite understand how to use adb commands. I tend to wait for one-click methods for this kind of thing.

A quick fix, titanium has drop box sync. Just send your entire titanium to drop box over wifi.
Then after you flash, it will pull down your backup over wifi. Its built in to titanium backup.

RogerPodacter said:
A quick fix, titanium has drop box sync. Just send your entire titanium to drop box over wifi.
Then after you flash, it will pull down your backup over wifi. Its built in to titanium backup.
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Eh... I suppose, but I think the entire backup is almost two gigs (unless I read it wrong), and my home Internet is kinda slow (and has been unusually even slower the last day or so), so that would take me forever.

If you restart your phone you will see the Titanium Backup folder on your pc. I have noticed that the Galaxy Nexus only refreshes the MediaStore on boot.
"The Media provider contains meta data for all available media on both internal and external storage devices"

runely said:
If you restart your phone you will see the Titanium Backup folder on your pc. I have noticed that the Galaxy Nexus only refreshes the MediaStore on boot.
"The Media provider contains meta data for all available media on both internal and external storage devices"
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Yup i have noticed that too.
btw just a quick question about Titanium Backup.
Does the phone have to be rooted or unlocked to use it?

RedBlueGreen said:
Yup i have noticed that too.
btw just a quick question about Titanium Backup.
Does the phone have to be rooted or unlocked to use it?
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Yes, you must be rooted.

martonikaj said:
Yes, you must be rooted.
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so what program can i use to save my app data? Because doesnt rooting the phone wipe it?
Iv looked around but cant seem to find one.
I tried Mybackup but i cant seem to save the app data
I can only backup
contacts
call log
bookmarks
sms
mms
system settings
android home
alarms
dictionary
calendar
music playerlist
APNs

RedBlueGreen said:
so what program can i use to save my app data? Because doesnt rooting the phone wipe it?
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Not rooting, but unlocking the bootloader specifically, which is generally required to root the device.
Iv looked around but cant seem to find one.
I tried Mybackup but i cant seem to save the app data
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There's the ADB method for backing up. No root req'd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351

martonikaj said:
Not rooting, but unlocking the bootloader specifically, which is generally required to root the device.
There's the ADB method for backing up. No root req'd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
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Thanks but you already told me how to on the thread i made

RedBlueGreen said:
Thanks but you already told me how to on the thread i made
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Oh well I hardly look at (or remember) user names. Glad you got it figured out.

Accessing application data... is it possible?

I need the main.db file from the Skype app installed on my HTC One X. The phone is not rooted, and I read that installing a bootloader wipes the phone. Is it at all possible to get ahold of the file in any way? Is it possible to use a recovery tool to view the deleted files after unlocking the bootloader? Would it be possible to buy another HTC phone, bootload that, do a system transfer from the locked phone to the new and be able to access the files then? What about doing a system back-up to the pc? (since HTC writes that it will include free apps in the back-up?).
Thanks for the help!

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I need the main.db file from the Skype app installed on my HTC One X. The phone is not rooted, and I read that installing a bootloader wipes the phone. Is it at all possible to get ahold of the file in any way? Is it possible to use a recovery tool to view the deleted files after unlocking the bootloader? Would it be possible to buy another HTC phone, bootload that, do a system transfer from the locked phone to the new and be able to access the files then? What about doing a system back-up to the pc? (since HTC writes that it will include free apps in the back-up?).
Thanks for the help!
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nope there never was a root exploit for locked bootloader.
However there is this app. Helium:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup
It says it can backup apps with data without the need for root. However this app relies on the fact that the app developer must have the backup flag set to allow. Developers who sell for example a banking app always denies this flag. This is to make it unable to a hacker to just transfer the app and data to another phone and hijack your banking account. Its a free choice to set this flag so its very much a guess if a particular app will be able to backup or not.
Try Helium, backup skype and restore it on some other phone you have and see if the data survives. Or boot a virtual machine with android if you don't have any other android phone.
I've never used the Helium app. I've always stuck with "mybackup pro" since it was first released or titanium. But these apps requires root.
Its been so many years I don't remember how stock rom looks like. But I know there is a backup function that backup apps and etc.
Read this manual: (go to page 104)
http://dl4.htc.com/web_materials/Manual/HTC_One_X/HTC_OneX_plus_User_Guide_MR.pdf
I'm not sure if this backup the app data..? I would not rely on this solution.

Thank you I'll try Helium and cross my fingers, then the HTC back-up if that fails. The back-up says it also transfers program data of free apps, so maybe I'll be lucky. I've seen a thread somewhere on restoring files post-bootloader installation - that'll be my last option if all else fails.

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Thank you I'll try Helium and cross my fingers, then the HTC back-up if that fails. The back-up says it also transfers program data of free apps, so maybe I'll be lucky. I've seen a thread somewhere on restoring files post-bootloader installation - that'll be my last option if all else fails.
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Yes I forgot to mention that part. You could use the built in backup tool in stock rom. Once its finished. Unlock the bootloader and then try and restore your data once the phone is back up again and running.
Of course make sure that the backup you made earlier is secure before unlocking the bootloader.
Perhaps it will work I dunno. But at least its worth a try.

Question complete backup of system/apps/data on non-rooted OP9P (from a newbie at OP9P)

Hello to the community,
I am quite new here at OP9P (had several Samsung and one Huawei smartphone before) and I have a question:
How can I backup my complete system (incl. all apps and data) on my OP9P (not rooted) with Orginal software (OOS LE2123_11_C.48) and restore it if necessary? So far I have not found a solution while searchin the net (only with rooted phone)....
It would be nice if someone from the community could give me a tip (maybe a tutorial)
Many thanks already...
Greetings from hot Bavaria/Germany

Assuming you are talking about a system image, you don't need root, but you need a custom recovery for this, which in turn requires an unlocked bootloader.
If you haven't unlocked the bootloader yet, be aware that when you unlock it the 1st time, everything on your device will be wiped. For Samsung devices, this process will trip the Knox counter permanently, and void warranty.
With root, you'll be able to backup individual apps and their data.
In short, without root, there is no way to backup app data from within the system. And without a custom recovery, you cannot take a system image.
Android Backup is pretty limited without root. iOS backups are better in this aspect because you can backup all app data.

Thx for your fast reply... This is what i thought of too... Big thx anyway bro

actually, the only known workaround to backup all app data without root is with D2D transfer apps like
Clone Phone (still that won't help you on bricked device)
How do you access the D2D (Device-to-Device) Data Transfer functionality?
So, as of Android 12, rightfully so: https://developer.android.com/about/versions/12/backup-restore For apps running on and targeting Android 12 and higher: Specifying android:allowBackup="false" does disable backups to Google Drive, but doesn’t...
forum.xda-developers.com

Root phone and Download Swift Backup
Thank me later too

Thx...

fmmatt23 said:
Root phone and Download Swift Backup
Thank me later too
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Root phone?
Before rooting, you have to unlock bootloader. Doing that will wipe everything. What will he backup then?

fmmatt23 said:
Root phone and Download Swift Backup
Thank me later too
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I use FTP Server Pro along with Filezilla Client on my computer too for non-app data. i.e. Everything else. If you're rooted then you can poke about in system folders too.
Once you copy everything into a folder, it makes it easy to backup/restore the whole storage.